Trump, escaping domestic troubles, visits France's Macron

Napoleon Bonaparte and other war heroes are buried

Was Napoleon a war hero?

Anyway, I hope Bertha doesn't stop over in the UK and lower the tone there.

Any subbing or hand slapping on this trip?

Bienvenu comrade Trumpsky. I hope Monsieur Macron doesn't squeeze those tiny fingers too hard again.

Madame Trump looking classy as usual....

The Donald is going to like all the shiny and gold stuff we have in Paris.

More twisted headlines. No evidence at all that Trump is escaping domestic troubles. Just like there's no evidence at all that Trump did anything illegal involving Russia. Just the usual anti-Russia Joe McCarthy cult howling away while the world moves on.

At least DT is travelling, meeting other high officials.

Soon or later he will understand he has to work with people whom oppose his ideas.

That would be great see him grow up.

Looks like macron has a little more sense than I saw at first.

Last week he had the gall to say Africa's problems were largely - gasp! - of their own doing.

I call it the Trump effect. Perhaps more politicians are becoming less afraid to call attention to the obvious rather than worry about what PC zealots will say.

its refreshing.

Melania wearing another very Jackie Kennedy-esque outfit & sunnies.

As for handshakes, many French ppl do shake hands with each other several times a day so Trump will have plenty of opportunities vs Macron over the next couple of days. Melania should and will be kissed though.

I think world leaders enjoy inviting Trump to their countries. Not for the fashion tips or interesting conversations, but because they all know he'll say or do something stupid to show that country's people, "Hey, at least our leader isn't that bad!"

Absolutely right Comanteer. Totally loaded and biased headline.

Not liking Trump has nothing to do with it. I dislike the man and the president, but I'm not so stupid as to believe a bunch of fake news.

As heavyweight champion Joe Louis once said about an opponent (Billy Conn), "He can run, but he can't hide."

domestic troubles? economy and jobs at an all time high and stocks through the roof. what planet is this article from?

"What Emmanuel Macron wants to do is bring Trump back into the circle so that the United States, which remains the world's number one power, is not excluded," French government spokesman Christophe Castaner told BFM TV.

No please, let America remain excluded. They are much better off that way.

They best thing these two leaders can do is put on a good arm wrestling match and call it a day.

Melania should and will be kissed though.

No doubt. I've seen her pictures on the Internet too.

economy and jobs at an all time high and stocks through the roof. you make it sound like it was all of Trumps making and nothing of the previous admin doing. LOL people seem to have short memories of a 2008 GFC left over from the Bush admin.

Trump is an idiot about foreign affairs. And many other things as well. He's an easy mark too: show him a few tanks and treat him to a nice dinner and he's as happy as a schoolboy at the chocolate shop.

Make no mistake: America will never recover from this.

He's going to watch the Bastille Day parade and be wowed by the tanks and planes. Just watch, next 4th of July you'll see tanks down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Ahh, I remember those days when I'd get excited by fighter jets, horses and military equipment. I'd then grab my lunch box and head to the school bus.

Domestic trouble on this to line is family member trouble.  Eric got in touch of Russians to create Hillary scandal. he is telling this to variety of people all day.

Poor man he can't escape from Medias attack whatever he did good or bad.

Melania is wearing bright red to signal "don't you dare walk in front of me and forget me again!", lol

I heard he is invited to play in a reenactment of the Bastille Day. His role will be that of King Louis XVI. Because "I can be the best King, the French people will love me even more!"

Ahh, I remember those days when I'd get excited by fighter jets, horses and military equipment. I'd then grab my lunch box and head to the school bus.

CrazyJoe - taken a look at your avatar lately?

Obviously issues back in the states but this headline is misleading. Macron extended this visit quite some time ago & Trump is correctly honoring this special event in Paris.

More twisted headlines. No evidence at all that Trump is escaping domestic troubles.

Lordy there are some thin-skinned folk out there! His administration & family are under investigation on several fronts, his popularity is rock bottom and his policies are running up against brick walls. Trumpbots can spin it anyway they want but it's very far from domestic bliss.

Bienvenu comrade Trumpsky. I hope Monsieur Macron doesn't squeeze those tiny fingers too hard again.

He seemed to be towering largely over Macron.

Trump is an idiot about foreign affairs.

To be fair, most presidents were not road scholars when it came to international affairs in the beginning, but it took some time and they all eventually learned and the same is opposite about foreign Not having a lot of knowledge about the US. It's not a roadblock and it's not an impediment.

And many other things as well. He's an easy mark too: show him a few tanks and treat him to a nice dinner and he's as happy as a schoolboy at the chocolate shop.

I remember a time when Bill Clinton ate everything that got in his way during his years as president.

Make no mistake: America will never recover from this.

We will, we recovered from the previous president, we will be ok.

To be fair, most presidents were not road scholars when it came to international affairs in the beginning, but it took some time and they all 

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar. (Damn spell check.)

I remember a time when Bill Clinton ate everything that got in his way during his years as president.

Okay. Not sure what a Rhodes Scholar eating has to do with anything. Whatever he ate, he, like Obama, got things done.

We will, we recovered from the previous president, we will be ok.

If by "recover" you mean put another conservative buffoon in the White House that has been trying to tear apart Obama's 8 years of progress, then you are correct.

Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar. (Damn spell check.)

It happens.

Okay. Not sure what a Rhodes Scholar eating has to do with anything. Whatever he ate, he, like Obama, got things done.

Liberals like to think that for some odd reason, as to why that is is beyond me. But they are in the minority so they should know.

If by "recover" you mean put another conservative buffoon in the White House that has been trying to tear apart Obama's 8 years of progress, then you are correct.

Yes, well....hmmmm....where are the Dems again? They were so good at what they did, they received a pardon and were sent to roam in the wilderness. The party that knows it all went back to its wilderness roots.

It happens.

At least once a post.

Yes, well....hmmmm....where are the Dems again? They were so good at what they did, they received a pardon and were sent to roam in the wilderness. The party that knows it all went back to its wilderness roots

Nice substantive retort.

Liberals like to think that for some odd reason, as to why that is is beyond me

Thats because you don't know how to do research or accept facts. Try the economic improvements, healthcare reform, and all the other things that help ordinary people, even conservative voters. You know, the voters that constantly vote against their interests because they aren't wealthy enough to benefit from conservative policies.

Takeda:

Spot on. One issue with your post that will surely cause it to not be understood is that you used logic.

And what's this; his people have suggested to make positive noises about the Paris Accord? Not that he should be believed for one minute, of course.

he will lunch with top U.S. military brass before meeting Macron at the Hotel des Invalides, a grand 17th century complex where Napoleon Bonaparte and other war heroes are buried.

Boney had very small hands too.

Why was my post deleted?

Why was my post deleted?

Mod works in mysterious ways ;-)

Facta are facts. I know enough about you from your posts.

If we go by what you guys seem to read as pure facts, Trump seems to be in very good position then. Pheeew, was worried for a moment.

And I don't claim to be a journalist. Kudos.

I don't claim to be the liberal progressive Alumni epitome of the human race. Where are the Dems again?

You keep making the claim that the occupant of the WH represents the will of the people.

Well, if that were true, the Dems would have large majorities everywhere, but they don't, unless you could show me where in Washington they hold majorities?

This is only the case when the president also won the popular, which wasn't what happened. So, the winner of the popular vote (Clinton) does represent the will of the people. Clinton supported those democratic policies.

Yeah, ok...uh-huh..

That is a fact. You've said you don't like facts. Hell, any time I've used facts, you come up with, "I'm not buying that for a minute." Which is asinine.

No, I like facts, I just don't see them in one-sided partisan skewed prism, you guys on the left ONLY acknowledge liberal facts, that's the difference.

I like facts, I just don't see them in one-sided partisan skewed prism, you guys on the left ONLY acknowledge liberal facts

Haha. What is a "liberal fact"?

Is it like an inverse "alternative fact" like those employed in their daily attack on objective reality by Breitbart, Fox, Alex 'Performance Artiste' Jones, and the Trump administration?

Where may I see an example?

So Rob Goldstone e-mailing DT Jr. explicitly mentioning that the Russians had information to give to DT and help DT win the Presidency, is a liberal fact. Today I Learned!

If nothing else, I don't like the idea of people who are stupid enough to not even be able to properly cover-up potentially treasonous collusion being in the highest office.

Trump visits France, under the cloud of Russia, screams CNN breathlessly on TV.

President Macron seems to be acting much more reasonably this time. When asked about the Russia things he simply said yes France has a relationship with Russia as well and it is necessary.

As far as Don Jr. emails, that story couldnt disappear fast enough from the media cycle as soon as it was found who authorized the Russian lawyer to come into the US without even a visa.

So, the winner of the popular vote doesn't speak for the people?

Nope, the elected President of the United States speaks on behalf of the people.

The popular vote in this case represented the will of the people of California. The same California that refuses to participate in any election fraud commission efforts, btw.

If you take California out of the total, Donald Trump won the popular vote by 1.4 million. So I dont say that what California wants should outweigh what the majority of people in the other states want. We can make Hillary governor of California if it makes her feel any better.

Given your baseline for reasonableness is a petulant man-child that is extremely think skinned and cannot control his need to mouth off on Twitter, your assessment of reasonableness carries little weight.

Why would you say such things about President Macron, who is the person I was talking about.

I read perfectly fine. Yet my comment was about President Macron and you quoted it to attack Trump and not even mention Macron. Just proves my point that anything which is said that isnt even about Trump leads to....an attack on Trump.

If Hillary Clinton's policies are the will of the people, then why doesnt she just run again in 2020 with the same policies? She will be sure to win this time, right? 3rd time's the charm and all.

Hahahahaha. Take a moment to re-read your posts to see how incorrect this statement is.

I did, seems fine to me.

Which has to do with your outlandish claim to use English as part of your profession?

as opposed to the left using what little cerebral cortex they have?

The voter fraud commission is a waste of time for all the reasons that have been repeatedly explained to you. You keep clinging to it because it is the only hope that Trump has of being able to claim he won the popular vote.

Typical liberal lack of understanding anything, sigh. We keep going around the Pecan bush, Trump is the president, the Democrats are in the wilderness and all the complaining and ad Homs is never going to change that.

So I recommend them to get a message so that can win one day....one day.

So my point was that Macron seemed reasonable in his comments, especially about Russia. There is no way in this world for a country to simply not have a relationship with Russia. One where you actually meet and speak with Russians about policies and issues.

Especially reasonable comments compared to this politically based nonsense out of the USA.

USA 2012 (Russia not a threat):

POTUS nails Mitt for saying Russia our #1 geostrategic threat. "The 1980's called. They want their foreign policy back." Bam!

USA 2016 after election loss (oh crap, we gotta blame someone....Russia!?):

When @POTUS mocked Romney in 2012 for saying Russia was top threat, I cheered. @POTUS was wrong. I was wrong. Mitt was right.

USA 2017 (yep its Russia! always has been!):

Bravo @MaxBoot for calling out Putin lovers in Trump's GOP. We Dems erred in '12 by mocking Boot/Romney Russia worry

Its always gotta fit the narrative.

Birtherism is partisan trash with no grounding in fact. 

If people believe in that and stand by that, they would be without a doubt a partisan.

The belief that the former president is/ may be a Muslim is partisan trash with no grounding in fact. 

Or that the current president was involved in total collusion with the Russians.

Uh huh, Mmm..., LMAO and ROFL are not constructive methods to use in debate. 

But attempts at sarcasm is? ROFL

Just suggesting.

My son called this morning from Tokyo about this Junior thing. He was surprised that the news had been so large and then suddenly seems to have disappeared.

Legal gears grind slowly, I told him. Investigations are ongoing, and results of those investigations will be presented to Congress (in the case of Trump) or federal prosecutors (in the case of everyone else, which explains the lawyering-up), who can do with them what they wish. Slowly but surely.

Suspiciously evasive on the Obama is/may be a Muslim trash. 

Because I have No idea where he stands in regards to religion, so I refuse to comment.

No mention of the non-partisan historians? 

Not relevant to the topic.

Not relevant to the topic.

Never stopped you before.

Because I have No idea where he stands in regards to religion, so I refuse to comment.

Always nice to see someone kick a bad habit.

Not relevant to the topic

Not relevant to any topic. It's fictional partisan trash.

The Trumpies sure have lied a lot about a big ol’ nothingburger of a meeting, haven’t they?

-- Kevin Drum

The TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrom) is rampant here. CNN et al must be proud. So many gullible fake news consumers

Macron's really laid on a show for him, hasn't he. Although PotUS looked a bit nonplussed at the French Army band.

Daft Trump.

He was surprised that the news had been so large and then suddenly seems to have disappeared.

The US press was completely obsessed over Trumps ice cream for a week. There is no story too small for the resistance to go into hysterics over. I thoroughly enjoy watching the mainstream media trying to use tenuous claims of guilt by association into high crimes and misdemeanors.

Not as enjoyable as watching the embittered Trump faithful defending him for any and all lies, misdemeanors and insensitivities, though.

No, it's not about being embittered, it's about looking at all angles and not taking a one-sided skewed look. So without a doubt, the president should be given the benefit of a doubt unless factual proven and there is tangible and concrete evidence to prove otherwise.

the president should be given the benefit of a doubt

The president should be given the same benefit of the doubt you gave Obama for eight years.

Or in other words, the left can carry on exactly as we are right now.

The president should be given the same benefit of the doubt you gave Obama for eight years. 

Or in other words, the left can carry on exactly as we are right now.

I hope so as well. I want the Democrats to stay right where they at and to keep losing elections, so I do pray the left in their desperation carry on.

Blacklabel: The popular vote in this case represented the will of the people of California. The same California that refuses to participate in any election fraud commission efforts, btw. If you take California out of the total, Donald Trump won the popular vote by 1.4 million. So I dont say that what California wants should outweigh what the majority of people in the other states want.

I think what you're saying is that if we remove a large chunk of Clinton supporters from the vote count, then Trump wins.

Same point, fewer words.

Blacklabel: screams CNN breathlessly on TV.

and

bass4funk: Nickelodeon crush CNN in the ratings.

and

WilliB: CNN et al must be proud.

Three Trump fans, three CNN references.

@bass (and others)

You are not seeing the wood for the trees. The reason that everyone other than the wilfully blind (or blinded) Trump faithful are so concerned about Russia isn't that it's an excuse for the Dems losing; it's that Russia is waging asymmetrical war on the US, the EU, and NATO. Hacking or attempting to hack elections (plural), hacking sensitive data wherever they can, hacking critical infrastructure (read up on the Ukraine blackouts), funding political extremists, pushing their propaganda in western media (RT) while blocking foreign media outlets in Russia, flooding Twitter and English-language message boards with disinformation from bots and trolls, unilaterally annexing Crimea and instigating & perpetuating conflict in Donbas, propping up Asad ("our interests in Syria exactly align with Russia?" Really, Rex? So you like Asad now, the conduit from Iran to Hezbollah? Sure about that?), brazenly murdering a string of political opponents on foreign soil e.g. Litvinenko (and even more on their own), and doing everything they can to undermine western democracy, the NATO alliance, and the EU.

This is why Russia is such a cause for concern.

The reason Trump is such a cause for concern re Russia is that his words and acts since taking office (and perhaps since before doing so, as will hopefully be established either way in due course) have been aiding Russia.

Macron is right to say having a direct relationship with Russia is necessary and important; of course it is. But Trump has been going far beyond that, to bending over and giving Putin a massive helping hand with nothing obvious (or perhaps nothing yet proven) gained in return.