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Trump revealed classified info to Lavrov at White House: officials

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By Jeff Mason and Patricia Zengerle

U.S. President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation during their meeting last week, two U.S. officials with knowledge of the situation said on Monday.

The intelligence shared at the meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, was supplied by a U.S. ally in the fight against the militant group, both officials said.

The White House said the allegations, first reported by the Washington Post, were not true.

"The story that came out tonight as reported is false," H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security adviser, told reporters at the White House, adding that the two men reviewed a range of common threats including to civil aviation.

"At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed. The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known. ... I was in the room. It didn't happen," he said.

The White House also released a statement from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who said the meeting focused on counterterrorism, and from deputy national security adviser Dina Powell, who said the Post story was false.

Reacting to the news, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin, called Trump's conduct "dangerous" and reckless." The Republican head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Bob Corker, called the allegations "very, very troubling" if true.

One of the officials said the intelligence was classified Top Secret and also held in a secure “compartment” to which only a handful of intelligence officials have access.

After Trump disclosed the information, which one of the officials described as spontaneous, officials immediately called the CIA and the National Security Agency, both of which have agreements with a number of allied intelligence services, and informed them what had happened.

While the president has the authority to disclose even the most highly classified information at will, in this case he did so without consulting the ally that provided it, which threatens to jeopardize what they called a longstanding intelligence-sharing agreement, the U.S. officials said.

In his conversations with the Russian officials, Trump appeared to be boasting about his knowledge of the looming threats, telling them he was briefed on "great intel every day," an official with knowledge of the exchange said, according to the Post.

U.S. officials have told Reuters they have long been concerned about disclosing highly classified intelligence to Trump.

One official, who requested anonymity to discuss dealing with the president, said last month: “He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.”

One of the officials with knowledge of Trump's meeting with the Russian called the timing of the disclosure “particularly unfortunate,” as the president prepares for a White House meeting on Tuesday with Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, an ally in the fight against Islamic State.

Trump's first foreign trip also begins later this week and includes a stop in Saudi Arabia, another Islamic State foe, and a May 25 NATO meeting in Brussels attended by other important U.S. allies.

© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.

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And cue the right wingers, Republicans (i.e. one-party state backers), supporters of oligarchies and/or autocracies plus others who believe it's OK to give Russia classified info, just as long as it's not given it to 'dems & libs'. Dems and libs favor a democratic republic, one based on the US Constitution, one based on a balance of power among the executive, legislative and judicial branches. In that regard they differ significantly from their political opposites.

Here's hoping the investigation into Trump's dealings with Russia (China, Kazakhstan, etc.) is freely and openly conducted.

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I am sick of the liberal left media attacking Trump our first decent president in the US in decades with this ridiculous fake news story over Russia. Every president in history has worked to establish good relations in a rational manner with all major sane world powers. Russia is working to rebuild and is a valuable ally. the Fact of the matter is that Obama the previous president ruled the country using Executive orders that no one had the courage to challenge, Trump is trying to return to rational governance by actually BEING and Administrator, and to follow the needs of our time. The constant attacks are ridiculous is the attempt to make him out to be a fool and the Republicans as a negative force. I will hope for sanity to come, the liberal program of forced skewed social ideals failed because the people in the US do not want it..time for the media and the far left liberals to accept it and for all to work together for a decent future for all people.

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had been provided by a U.S. partner through a highly sensitive intelligence-sharing arrangement.

Ok? If I replaced 'partner' with scooby doo, would it relay the absurdity of news sources lately? If these 'sources' can not be corroborated by anyone else, how in the world is an avid reader supposed to trust them?

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@Cris:

Great post except it is completely incorrect. This is not the liberal left media with a ridiculous fake news story. It is responsible media reporting facts from sources that were in the meeting.

Yes, every president has worked to establish good relations with sane world powers, but none of had such an unhealthy crush on Russia, which is not a sane world power. Exposing a highly valued intelligence channel to a country diametrically opposed to the U.S. is not attempting to establish good relations, it is called being incompetent.

As for the people of the US not wanting the social ideals of the left, Clinton won 2.8 million more popular votes than Trump. Popular votes represent actual voters, which is to say that the people of the US do want the social ideals of the left. Unfortunately, fear mongering conservatives that are allergic to facts and logic do not want to accept this.

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And cue the right wingers, Republicans (i.e. one-party state backers), supporters of oligarchies and/or autocracies plus others who believe it's OK to give Russia classified info,

So can you prove that Trump intentionally gave the information to the Russians? You guys can't seem to get it through your heads. Could it be problematic, could be. Impeachable, no. Even if the facts are true and the president unintentionally gave out information.

just as long as it's not given it to 'dems & libs'. Dems and libs favor a democratic republic, one based on the US Constitution, one based on a balance of power among the executive, legislative and judicial branches. In that regard they differ significantly from their political opposites.

Here's hoping the investigation into Trump's dealings with Russia (China, Kazakhstan, etc.) is freely and openly conducted.

It has been and probably like everything, it'll blow over soon. So you guys can calm down.

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So can you prove that Trump intentionally gave the information to the Russians?

If it's unintentional, what's your opinion of this?

Incompetent? Stupid? Not befitting of a president?

Oh, got it. Obama did worse.

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If he gave it intentionally he can not be trusted to be in office. If he gave it unintentionally he's too stupid to be in office.

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“At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly,” McMaster said in a statement.

Speaking to reporters later at the White House, McMaster added to his statement by saying: “I was in the room. It didn’t happen.

From someone who was ACTUALLY there!! Enough with the barrel scraping journalism. Its pathetic and quite frankly sad now.

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Incompetent? Stupid? Not befitting of a president? 

Unintentional, negligent 

Oh, got it. Obama did worse.

In other ways, pretty much.

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Many people are saying he isn't going to be around after 2 years. What I'm hearing is that in the midterm elections the democrats are going to pound the republicans.  If that happens, we can see an impeachment process over the Russia debacle presided over by a democratic senate.   One good thing about Trump's presidency is that it has highlighted the often neglected midterm elections and how important they are in terms of presidential powers.  Whatever happens, US politics should be an interesting watch over the next few years.

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....could be. Impeachable, no. 

Talking classified information with an advisary is illegal. Besides, discussing such information with Russia while excluding the media, and also keeping such information from traditional allies, is more than alarming. Trump is a light switch away from commiting treason if he hasn't already done so.

And no... it won't blow over; it's only getting bigger everyday. Now there's talk of Russian mobsters having invested in the Trump Towers building in Manhattan. Surely, his hidden financial papers would reveal further other dubious business dealings with shady figures.

Funny how Trump tried to undermine Obama, saying he wasn't a U.S. citizen, he was a terrorist, he sold America out for the Iran deal. But look at Trump, selling out the country to Russia, obstructing justice, creating numerous conflicts of interests involving his business and letting his family profit from the tax payers. Yeah... Trump, a real American, making America great again. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'll take GWB any day over Trump.

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@Aly, I don't know that the mid-terms will do much of anything, but I agree with you that US politics will be an interesting watch over the next few years. What I think is that after two years in office Trump will start strong-arming things. Whether that's a positive or negative, we'll just have to wait and see. North of the 49th, I really don't give a sh*t what Americans do to hurt their country. Rome died an ignominious death and the US is on the same track.

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Eh, when the media reports it as highly classified it doesn't mean a whole lot really. Who are they trying to fool.

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@Swift_Justice

Russia, which is not a sane world power

A lot of people in the world would not agree with this statement, particularly when compare to the US foreign activity in the last fifteen years.

So, McMaster gave rather different account on what Trump said. Can the anonymous "officials" tell the public the exact words of Trump? Otherwise it is just another baseless claim. Facts, please.

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Remember that time the Republicans figured Hillary shared top secret information, and went ballistic for years? Then remember that time their president shared top secret information, and they defended him and tried to pretend it's no big deal?

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So did he also give him the nuclear codes? Trump's lack of political experience is already showing and he needs serious vetting and control from the Vice President. For the White House and president to deny it is a crime. Top Secret means what it says, on a to know basis. Trump could do the country some serious damage if he does not control what he says. There claims he had no connection with Russia now casts further doubt on that situation. This is what happens when a man without experience runs the world's most powerful country.

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If he did these things, rip President Trump apart. Bring charges. Impeach (like happened to President Clinton) and let the Senate sit as the judges.

If he didn't do these things. Well, that is a completely different story.

Bring some proof. Recordings and let's nail him.

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North of the 49th, I really don't give a sh*t what Americans do to hurt their country. Rome died an ignominious death and the US is on the same track.

Trevor, I understand the sentiment, but it seems a bit naive. Everything that America does, good or bad, impacts the entire world. If they're pushing horrible trade policies like TPP, who doesn't suffer. If they start wars of choice against manufactured enemies, if the biggest economy in the world denies science, is the impact of climate change only felt over US airspace. Not to mention that when the water runs out in the US, do you honestly think a parched nuclear-armed bully is going to respect an imaginary line on a map?

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Trump keeps digging and digging a hole for himself.

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Not to mention that when the water runs out in the US, do you honestly think a parched nuclear-armed bully is going to respect an imaginary line on a map?

This must be a scary time for Canada. It's like sharing a house with an a$$hole who keeps insulting everyone who walks past the house, but not being able to move out of the house.

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crisgersan, bassfunk:

If Trump had represented the Democrats (and he's swung both ways), he would have been labelled a dirty commie traitor. I hope you're getting ready to learn Russian. That's going to be the second language of America soon. Past presidents must be rolling in their graves!!!!!!

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Russia, which is not a sane world power

@Askaze A lot of people in the world would not agree with this statement,

I'm being serious saying I've yet to have read someone who is not Russian or not ethnically Russian (e.g. living in one of the former SSR's) say anything positive about Russia. I've heard non-Russian right wingers laud Putin's tyrannical leadership style, but no one else besides Russians. However, I'm willing to listen and would appreciate links to non-Russian sources saying positive things about Russia as a world power.

particularly when compare to the US foreign activity in the last fifteen years.

On that we agree. The world would be much better off seeing both Russia and the US no longer invading sovereign nations and interfering in any way in those nation's political and economic systems.

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This story is 100% fake! Even Trumps National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster dismissed it! Too funny.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508898/Did-Trump-leak-classified-info-Russians.html

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'Can you honestly and conclusively prove that you are psychologically fit to become President of the United States?'

Imagine this question, say at a high level interview or a future presidential election debate in the future. This will be the electoral legacy of the Trump presidency

If he did these things, rip President Trump apart. Bring charges. Impeach (like happened to President Clinton) and let the Senate sit as the judges.

Personally I think that the triggers are already all but in place.

They really will need to rein in the stream of consciousness tweeting. Going on about 'tapes' regarding Comey without any administration committee sanction is akin to political suicide. Now this other stuff about disclosing secret info, in the White House, not to mention all the other stuff in the FBI investigation that apparently is not one of their priorities.

I feel sorry for Pence or whoever comes next. Imagine, say at a high level interview or a future presidential election debate in the future this question:

'Can you honestly and conclusively prove that you are psychologically fit to become President of the United States?'

This will be the electoral legacy of the Trump presidency

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This story is 100% fake! Even Trumps National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster dismissed it!

So someone from the Trump administration says the Trump administration definitely did not F up? Case closed!

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So, McMaster gave rather different account on what Trump said

Actually he didn't. He gave an account that had nothing to do with the WP story. Read it and listen to McMaster. What he says didn't happen wasn't even part of the story. While it may not be totally irrelevant, it does not address in any way the substance of the story.

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@Asakaze

When you're using American foreign policy to justify that of any other nation, it's time to re-think....

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Once again we have Republicans thinking that 'fake news' means 'news I don't like'.

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Man, is Trump ever dumb. Fires FBI Director Comey one day and the next day he's revealing top secrets to the Russians in the Oval Office.

Is Trump a Russian spy or is he the stupidest president in U.S. history? Who is he working for?

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The facts come out and the looney left goes crazy!

100% FAKE, not a shred of evidence, whom are these 2 magically officials who know about there conversation? Anybody? .... Oh, right, The fake news report forgot to mention that....

"very, very troubling" if true.... Well, we are dealing with Chump... SO anything is possible.... But this story was put out by The Washington Post, which is notoroiously low on credibility. And Chump says one thing, and does another... So glad I don`t live there!

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Watch those goalposts being moved at breakneck speed as Trump supporters try to claim that revealing classified information is no big deal after all.

How different from when the very same people were castigating Mrs Clinton for keeping "confidential" e-mails on her own server which others may have been able to access through hacking. Note that there is no proof that anyone did hack the server.

Let's take a look at some of Trump's own tweets on the Clinton e-mails and the leaking of intelligence in general:

1) The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!

2) Leaking, and even illegal classified leaking, has been a big problem in Washington for years. Failing @nytimes (and others) must apologize!

3) 150 Clinton E-mails still contain classified information. More sensitive when she was Sec.of State. This is a very big deal.

4) Lyin' Hillary Clinton told the FBI that she did not know the "C" markings on documents stood for CLASSIFIED. How can this be happening?

5) On top of the disrespect shown by Russia, don’t forget they still have Snowden, who has given them (& everyone) massive US secrets.

There are many more along the same lines. I look forward to reading the hypocritical comments of supporters of the Doofus-in-chief. Please be sure to explain clearly why it is fine for Trump to give away intelligence on a whim, but a heinous crime when somebody else leaves intelligence in a place where it may possibly be accessed by others.

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After Trump disclosed the information, which one of the officials described as spontaneous

This here is the problem. He just can't control himself when there is an opportunity to boast or brown nose someone else, in this case his KGB handlers. Although it doesn't appear that Trump's top secret traitor leak was that bad this time round, you can guarantee that it will get worse and he will offer up more and more to our enemies and likely sell out an ally at some point too

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stormcrow, had the same impression. Sigh: Russia and Trump, again. This incident I'm inclined to ascribe to Trump's infinite stupidity - not that that makes it any less disturbing. Remember when Obama's transition team was reluctant to share classified info with Trump's for precisely this reason? No longer an option.

Likely, Trump just wanted to impress by showing off his yuuuge knowledge of the fabulous intelligence he has access too. Does anyone else find Trump's rationale for firing Comey - "showboating and grandstanding" - nauseatingly ironic?

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Ha ha, just have to laugh at all the Trumpites on here, doing verbal gymnastics, to support their 'Cretin-in-chief' .

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I suppose this is the key point;

"For most anyone in government discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law"

I dont like Chump. But I also dont like fake news.

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THE PROBLEM IS, is that WP/MSM DON'T have to prove he did it, making it up most of the time, they make Trump prove that he didn't do it while the story lingers on for months. When the story is then disproven with facts, they don't retract or report on it so the Left keeps repeating it as fact. If you then tell them it's been disproven, they counter with, "You watch to much Faux News."

REMEMBER HARRY REID saying Romney didn't pay taxes, was proven false, then Harry didn't care that he promoted a lie saying, "WE WON DIDN'T WE!"

DON'T THEY REALIZE these Russian/Trump attacks are eventually going to BITE HILLARY, D's, and the MSM, in the arse? Have you heard her, or Bill, attacking Trump on Russia? OH, and is Gitmo still open and has Trump traded any terrorists, who are back on the battlefield, directly or indirectly, KILLING AMERICANS, FOR A DESERTER? When's Bergdahl's trial so BO can go on another vacation... hiding?

I HAVE ZERO suspicions on Trump's 100% loyalty/Patriotism to the United States while I have endless suspicions on Obama's, his Circle of Communists, Hillary's, MSM, and the entire Democrat Party, loyalty to the United States!

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I dont like Chump. But I also dont like fake news.

Says the guy who cited the Daily Mail... You have no idea what fake news is.

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Remember that time the Republicans figured Hillary shared top secret information, and went ballistic for years?

If Trump sells a uranium mine to the Russians, then I will go ballistic.

Talking classified information with an advisary is illegal.

The president is allowed to declassify information if he thinks it's pertinent to a certain situation

Besides, discussing such information with Russia while excluding the media, and also keeping such information from traditional allies, is more than alarming. Trump is a light switch away from commiting treason if he hasn't already done so.

Treason? Lol! Yeah, yeah, yeah....I distinctly remember another president 4 years ago that committed treason, but let's just gloss over that.

And no... it won't blow over; it's only getting bigger everyday. Now there's talk of Russian mobsters having invested in the Trump Towers building in Manhattan. Surely, his hidden financial papers would reveal further other dubious business dealings with shady figures. 

It doesn't have to blow over, the Dems can waste as much as they, I mean, it's not like we aren't used to it already, it's right up their avenue.

Funny how Trump tried to undermine Obama, saying he wasn't a U.S. citizen, he was a terrorist, he sold America out for the Iran deal.

Very true, the last part.

But look at Trump, selling out the country to Russia,

He did? Can you prove that?

obstructing justice, creating numerous conflicts of interests involving his business and letting his family profit from the tax payers. Yeah... Trump, a real American, making America great again. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'll take GWB any day over Trump.

He could make America better, but I think for the Dems, they would rather have a crippled and a dysfunctional government, but it's funny to me, because the Dems seem to forget, you always need to be careful for what you wish for.

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Anything can and will happen with this idiot...

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@PTownsend

I've yet to have read someone who is not Russian or not ethnically Russian (e.g. living in one of the former SSR's) say anything positive about Russia

I'm not surprised, with your marked tendency to call everybody who does not share your point of view rightist and Putinbot. Name calling, however loud and persistent, is a bad substitute for logical arguments. For your information: even in Japan people with positive view on Russia are not rare.

@lucabrasi

When you're using American foreign policy to justify that of any other nation, it's time to re-think....

I do not justify anything. I just think it is very amusing when people from the country that invaded half a dozen countries during past twenty years, killing dozens of thousands of innocent people in the process, call other countries not sane. Look at the mirror!

Speaking about sane. Veterans of the US intelligence community about US-Russian cooperation on Syria:

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/11/trump-should-rethink-syria-escalation/

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“He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.”

The president is allowed to declassify information if he thinks it's pertinent to a certain situation.

Again, the question is should he since it comes from an ally who doesn't want it distributed, let alone to the Russians. The guy has no thought process other than generating tabloid headlines to deflect attention.

What will be his next obnoxious statement to deflect from this story?

But look at Trump, selling out the country to Russia,

He did? Can you prove that?

He used Russian gangster money when he built Trump Soho. No one else would lend to him after his bankruptcies. That is where the Russia connections started, and they have not ended. We have a president with gangster connections who is a mispoken word away from being convicted on those connections.

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THE PROBLEM IS, is that WP/MSM DON'T have to prove he did it, making it up most of the time, they make Trump prove that he didn't do it while the story lingers on for months. When the story is then disproven with facts, they don't retract or report on it so the Left keeps repeating it as fact.

Heh, you guys liked it a lot more when you were doing it, then when it was being done to you.

He could make America better, but I think for the Dems, they would rather have a crippled and a dysfunctional government

This comment is case in point to my above comment.

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So the Democrats want to dysfunctional government? Shame on them!

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"two U.S. officials with knowledge of the situation said on Monday."

Who are these U.S. officials disclosing this information and why are they disclosing it? Is it because they are true patriots? We now know why Washington D.C. is referred to as the swamp.

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@ptown I've yet to have read someone who is not Russian or not ethnically Russian (e.g. living in one of the former SSR's) say anything positive about Russia

@asakazeI'm not surprised, with your marked tendency to call everybody who does not share your point of view rightist and Putinbot. Name calling, however loud and persistent, is a bad substitute for logical arguments. For your information: even in Japan people with positive view on Russia are not rare.

Back to what I wrote earlier: I'm willing to listen and would appreciate links to non-Russian sources saying positive things about Russia as a world power. If you can't find them, you can include something from Americans and other non-Russians employed by RT or one of Putin's many global media outlets.

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Strange, all those present said it didn't happen, so what is the Washington Post's source?

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Just get on with it and drain the swamp!

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God, I am enjoying this so much I can hardly contain myself!!! So THAT is what Comey's investigation would have discovered -- well it's no wonder Trump fired him. But, alas, too late! The cat is out of the bag! New Trump tweet: "I'll get me coat."

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The elitist Liberal hatred for Donald Trump has distorted their view of reality.

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One of the 5 I,s have come out and stated That this sort of intelligence should be share between the 5 I,s and they don't not receive this information. That in it self is indicating that they are totally annoy with the present situation and that the saying USA having your back is waning. There Marines out there fighting with these Allie and not having your back in the of their mines cause by Trump action will cause deaths. Sharing info is paramount in the heat of battle. Now you will have Allie holding back info which will be life saving because it will get to the Russian. What Trump did is considered by Marines was a dog of an act. By the way Russia is not part of the 5 I,s. Both info must come from the same source, The type of intelligence and the leaker of the intelligence. That source can only be the Russians. The type of intelligence is the Key here. It was class Intelligence that is shared between the 5 I,s. It has to be share with the other 4 I,s but this was,nt but share with the Russians. The wording the Russian use in the response is another indication. This will see Trump drag up the hill to front the Congress no doubt.

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Bass4funk: "So the Democrats want to dysfunctional government? Shame on them!"

hahhaa... oh, the desperation! Is is dysfunctional NOW, and that is why you guys are in this mess, and Trump blames everyone else but the alternative facts, and is in the process of firing people who don't agree and can't cover up his lies. It is FACT.

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The elitist Liberal hatred for Donald Trump has distorted their view of reality.

The "elitist liberal hatred" of Donald Trump has distorted our view of reality? Well, tell us how you view this? Does this make you proud? Is Trump just a moron or a traitor?

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hope he will be out within a year not 2 years. too long of a torture.

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Follow the money trail and the business dealings, and it is quite clear that Trump is Russia's lapdog. There will be worse to come yet.

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Me wonders why only Russia press was allowed to take photos of Trump and the Russian delegates. Now this? Hmmmmm....

But, Trump was right. He could shoot someone in the middle of Manhattan and his Kool-Aid drinkers would still back him. You go, guys!

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Strange, all those present said it didn't happen, so what is the Washington Post's source?

It's hard to tell who was present since Trump barred US press and only allowed a Russian press photographer, who, in Trump's defense, claimed himself as Lavrov's personal photographer. Trump essentially barred US press and invited Russian press into the Oval Office during a meeting with Kremlin officials... where he may have divulged sensitive information...

I'll wait for solid evidence to decide whether Trump is actually colluding with Russia, but there's already plenty of proof that he's a complete amateur and unfit for the office.

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cherrytime Today 09:39 am JST This story is 100% fake! Even Trumps National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster dismissed it! Too funny.....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508898/Did-Trump-leak-classified-info-Russians.html

Ah, the Daily Mail. "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" etc.

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@PTownsend

you can include something from Americans and other non-Russians employed by RT

I did so, please read the link above, about the opinion of veterans of the US intelligence community on the Russian role in Syria and the fight against terrorism. I hope you can't claim that all these people are Russian agents. And only one thought: monopoly of one company in economy is bad for economy, monopoly of one country in world affairs is bad for world affairs. Do you really need links to understand that?

Back to the subject of the thread. So, do we have hard evidence at last, or it is still "some people say Trump said something. - Whoa, how he dare! I also have no idea what he said, anyway let's crucify him" thing?

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It took the media several days to make up something to use against Trump as far as the meeting with the Russians that they didnt like. Would have expected this to come out the same day, but they were still trying to ride the Comey firing story. Real actual people- not 'officials with knowledge'- have said this didnt happen. Moving on, whats tomorrow's attack?

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Blacklabel: "Real actual people have said this didnt happen"

Who? I mean, as opposed to the 'non-humans' you speak of. Let me guess, FOX news? Connelly? Your good friend, also a Trump supporter? Trump himself in a 5:00 a.m. tweet? Some lady you know? That guy in the mirror again?

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Russian role in Syria

The BBC has produced evidence that Assad is still making chemical weapons and using them. Another story yesterday about Assad's mass executions by hangings of prisoners every Wednesday and Friday, 13,000 killed to date. Saydnaya prison complex outside the Syrian capital of Damascus.The corpses are burned in a giant crematorium.

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@Blacklabel Moving on, whats tomorrow's attack?Dont worry precious your idiot in Chef will come up with something.

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@asakaze I hope you can't claim that all these people are Russian agents.

I don't claim to know that the American and other non-Russians employed by RT and Putin's various media outlets are Russian 'agents'. It could be some of them are just workers hired by Russian companies as journalists, story writers, social media correspondents and other kinds of employees who perhaps couldn't find work elsewhere and/or can make more money with Russian corporations.

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The media are making stuff up? If that's Breitbart, Alex Jones or most of Fox News' output; sure.

Is Trump making up stuff about tapes of Comey in the Whitehouse? He's in a pickle now, whether or not that's true...

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Well the actual NEWS for tomorrow should be that DNC staffer Seth Rich was found to be in contact with Wikileaks before he was murdered. You know, the guy that leaked the emails that liberals are saying the Russians hacked? Was just murdered while walking his dog in a safe DC neighborhood, but had nothing to do with politics....yeah ok.

But Im sure the MSM will make up some other hard hitting news, like 'Trump lawyer tweets modeling pic of his daughter'. I know I was intrigued by the 'Trump gets 2 scoops of ice cream but everyone else only gets one' Pulitzer Prize level article. Its probably time to get a negative decision on at least one of the travel ban appeals tomorrow thats my guess as they are out of Russian stuff again.

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DNC staffer Seth Rich was found to be in contact with Wikileaks before he was murdered. You know, the guy that leaked the emails that liberals are saying the Russians hacked? Was just murdered while walking his dog in a safe DC neighborhood, but had nothing to do with politics....yeah ok.

Because one conspiracy theory trumps another, eh?

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It took the media several days to make up something to use against Trump as far as the meeting with the Russians that they didnt like.

Hah, can anyone say Benghazi?

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Who? I mean, as opposed to the 'non-humans' you speak of. Let me guess, FOX news? Connelly? Your good friend, also a Trump supporter? Trump himself in a 5:00 a.m. tweet? Some lady you know? That guy in the mirror again?

Secretary of State Tillerson

National Security Advisor Mc Master

Deputy National Security Advisor Powell

But because libs so desperately want this to be true they will accept unnamed reports leaked to newspapers over the public statements of actual human beings.

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Secretary of State Tillerson

National Security Advisor Mc Master

Deputy National Security Advisor Powell

Swampers!

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Strangerland: "Hah, can anyone say Benghazi?"

You need a few more years and at least seven Democratic panels finding him innocent and greasy, unshaven Gowdy insisting that he's not before you can even remotely begin to compare. You also have to spend several million in taxes on it, insist it be part of the election, and you most certainly can't fire everyone who tries to encourage that the narrative be spread and the truth come out. Even the GOP say the WH is in a downward spiral, with people who STILL support Trump saying he's a disaster. Supposing he did NOT intentionally give classified secrets to the Russians and saying he did it by accident, as some who insist we provide proof are unwilling to do so in defending Trump suggest, that just makes him an extremely incapable and dangerous moron unfit for the top job of the nation.

No, not even comparable, and the anger and calls for the man to be imprisoned should be about 100 times anything they tried to throw (still are, actually!) at Hillary.

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I like how you guys try to do this. Unnamed sources leak false stories. People who were actually there say it didnt happen, but you discredit them because they work for Trump. Who else would be there except Trump staff? So he can never sufficiently prove ANYthing to your liking.

Then from time to time you get Trump one on one with no one else in the room like Comey meeting. Trump says what happened, Comey says nothing to dispute, so Trump is somehow still a liar. Good little scam you guys got going but it doesnt make the leaked stories true. American people care about jobs, their money and their safety. Especially from Radical Islamic Terrorists and illegal alien criminals. All this other stuff is pretty much irrelevant. Stock market high, unemployment is low, consumer confidence is high but lets talk about Russia some more.....

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Dear Trump fans.... whatever you may say, one fact make all your explanations and justifications to dust.

If there was "no problem" with Trump giving away that information, then why the urgent calls to the tops of NSA and CIA?

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then why the urgent calls to the tops of NSA and CIA?

Simple, to tell them that the Washington Post report is false. Based on the public statements of the Secretary of State, National Security advisor and his deputy who were in attendance at the meeting.

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Secretary of State Tillerson

National Security Advisor Mc Master

Deputy National Security Advisor Powell

But because libs so desperately want this to be true they will accept unnamed reports leaked to newspapers over the public statements of actual human beings.

Who leaks the reports, then? Hobbits?

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@Blacklabel

A true American People who care about jobs, their money and their safety... here look

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1554416077923210/

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Anyone can leak a FAKE account of what happened. You dont need to be there to make up things that people in the room said didnt happen. Sorry my actual human beings phrase has triggered you. Im just making the point that officials with knowledge of the situation do not have a name, a face, or a reputation and cannot be questioned to determine truth. I am not aware that the three people who said it didnt happen are known liars by name/reputation, correct me if I am wrong.

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A true American People who care about jobs, their money and their safety... here look

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1554416077923210/

Thats actually about health care which I didnt mention. Nevertheless, I feel for that man and that topic has personal connections with his family that is why he is so passionate. Some people care about health care much less and even think its not a right but a privilege.

But people whose children were killed by illegal aliens are just as passionate that illegals need to be gone (build that wall!) People who lost their jobs to foreign countries too (America first!). People whose families were killed by Islamic terrorists at a night club as well (Travel ban!).

Yet those people's voices cant be heard and supported like the man in the video, they are called any name the media can think of to silence them (racist, xenophobe, homophobe, anything that ends with -ist) The liberal courts block any type of relief for these people that the President tries to give them.

Every person has something they care about more than other things based on what has happened to them in their lives. That wont change. But government cannot efficiently meet the needs of each individual and their unique situation, they have to focus on what is good for the country as a whole.

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@Blacklabel

Sorry but then, the media who is getting slammed fiercely by Trump administration also will be very careful to report something that with a simple research can be refuted.

Your allegation that these information and statements are "fake" is unfunded and you have no way to prove them at least you are at the same level regarding information and fundamentals as this report.

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@Blacklabel

Regarding the

Yet those people's voices cant be heard and supported like the man in the video, they are called any name the media can think of to silence them (racist, xenophobe, homophobe, anything that ends with -ist) The liberal courts block any type of relief for these people that the President tries to give them.

Sadly, Muslims in America face this sort of prejudice and hatred every day. @ATTN pic.twitter.com/Q822uytsSp— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) May 9, 2017

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Sorry my mistake on the link thingy

https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/861998729892638721

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@Daniel thanks for the link, I agree that treatment is wrong and it is a whole different conversation that maybe we can have one day on another thread where it is on topic. As far as this topic, I just feel it is unfair how every day a new issue is manufactured when the American people need the focus to be on things that could actually improve their daily lives, the things Trump was elected to do.

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Is Trump just a moron or a traitor?

He is a PATRIOT that loves the U.S.A. He has never been a politician and is currently draining the swamp in front of the world. He is doing what he was elected to do. He will do it whether you like it or not.

Remember 8 years ago? Obama did the exact same thing. The Washington Post has for years been a newspaper that favours Democrats and liberalism. So go figure. Bezos despises Trump and probably has more money than he does, so this is just another example of an elitist Liberal promoting his "fake news" agenda. Surprising people even pay attention to that rag.

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Last week USA gave heavy weapons to the YPK. This week some one leaked info about ISIS staging air terror attacts using laptops. A 5 I,s member (Australia stated that they have not receive this information ) this being class High intelligence, all 5 member should receive this info. So this mean none of the other 3 I,s did not either. So you got Russia getting this info which they admitted was told to them at the oval office meeting but not the source. Trump is denying putting the source at rise, Trump did not deny given up high intelligence. Well any one can work that out the source is the YKJ. The only Allie force constantly taking and interrogating ISIS captives. Yes the Iraqis are also but USA are enbeded with Iraqis and would of got the info first hand so that rules out the Iraqi passing on this intelligence. Trump is not in bed with Russia. It that Russia has Trump feeding out of their pockets. Trump is Make America the USA look like complete idiots. Has anything the Washington post has release since Trump,s election been proven false ? No. Has any statement release by the Whitehouse been proven false since Trump election ? Yes Plenty.

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@Blacklabel

That is why this news is making so much noise.

I will give you, that there may be some possibility that this news has been blown out of proportion, taking out of context and/or mixed some lies with the truth (though I personally not believe it so)

But giving that type of information to a country that the US has several serious regards on external policy and security issues, puts the safety of US citizens (not to say other countries as well) in real risk.

Even if the position you stand is the correct one (that nothing out of nowhere), if Trump would have allowed to US media to be at the meeting as they did with Russian media, there may have been no problem to begin with.

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hahhaa... oh, the desperation!

No, more like frustration, please continue...

Is is dysfunctional NOW, and that is why you guys are in this mess,

This is not Benghazi, it should blow over sooner than you think. Remember the grabbing women's....

That was a real headline shocker but didn't stop him from getting the WH.

and Trump blames everyone else but the alternative facts, and is in the process of firing people who don't agree and can't cover up his lies. It is FACT

Hmm, where have I heard that line before...give me a minute....ROFL

but there's already plenty of proof that he's a complete amateur and unfit for the office.

If the other last 2 presidents could do it as somewhat amateurs, then Trump should be ok.

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American people care about jobs, their money and their safety. Especially from Radical Islamic Terrorists and illegal alien criminals. All this other stuff is pretty much irrelevant. Stock market high, unemployment is low, consumer confidence is high but lets talk about Russia some more.....

Speak for yourself. Many Americans want honest government from the people they elect. They're sick and tired of entrenched corruption on both the left and right. They want jobs and an even distribution of wealth; they don't want the biggest tax break in history that benefits the rich and wipes out tax credits for the middle class just signed by Trump. 5.5 trillion dollars that could've reduced health care costs for all Americans, cut child poverty in half, and implemented Sander's free college idea. But no, thanks to Trump, the rich will only get richer. Some Americans want honest government, EPA regulations, cut military spending, increased education spending, lower health care costs, a president who works for the betterment of the people and not strictly for his own family.

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The scare about terrorists and such is a scare tactic to make you go along with the further depletion of human rights and civil liberties.

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He is a PATRIOT that loves the U.S.A. He has never been a politician and is currently draining the swamp in front of the world. He is doing what he was elected to do. He will do it whether you like it or not.

You have to hand to these people--they have message discipline. I imagine them waking & booting up each morning, looking at Faux News or Breitbart for today's talking pts. Ideally, there is a listen & repeat session, like a catechism or a Two Minutes Hate.

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True, not true? Difficult to know. But from what we've seen from this bozo-in-chief so far it's very credible. Nobody would be surprised if it were true. That in itself is very troubling.

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Speak for yourself. Many Americans want honest government from the people they elect.

Sure, we all want that, but the majority of Americans especially the ones that don't live in the coastal States want the government to focus more on job creation and not bicker and to have the MSM desperately in their hatred of Trump and continue to throw landmines his way.

They're sick and tired of entrenched corruption on both the left and right. They want jobs and an even distribution of wealth;

Liberals, progressives want that perhaps, I do believe that.

they don't want the biggest tax break in history that benefits the rich and wipes out tax credits for the middle class just signed by Trump. 5.5 trillion dollars that could've reduced health care costs for all Americans, cut child poverty in half, and implemented Sander's free college idea.

Well, if they want jobs to come back, stay and create a strong private job sector and have the ability to grow and hire people, they would understand that a tax break for this companies is crucial. So I'm all for it and as a small business owner, I would love to see the corporate tax rate go down to 15-20%.

But no, thanks to Trump, the rich will only get richer.

They got rich under Obama as well, so what do you want, you can't have both. You want to see growth within the private sector or you do not? If you do, then we need to do something about the tax code. We already have enough people out of work.

Some Americans want honest government, EPA regulations, cut military spending, increased education spending, lower health care costs, a president who works for the betterment of the people and not strictly for his own family.

Yeah, the people in California and all up to the West Coast and the Atlantic can have it.

Cheers!

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Blacklabel: "Secretary of State Tillerson

National Security Advisor Mc Master

Deputy National Security Advisor Powell"

All appointed by whom? and loyal to whom? Obviously Trump. May as well have said Sean Hannity said it, my friend.

bass4funk: "No, more like frustration, please continue..."

Well, at least you can admit you are extremely frustrated with Trump. That's a step in the right direction, and a whole lot better than you jumping from calling him a lunatic one month to bowing down to him the next.

"All this other stuff is pretty much irrelevant."

Sure wasn't for a few leaked emails, which this makes into EXTREMELY small potatoes by comparison.

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So, bass...

you're all for crooked government, tax breaks for the rich, a scrapped EPA and DOE, a president and his family running the government like a business and profiting privately, as long as a few coal miners can go to work and buy their cans of miller and colors lite?

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gcbel, those in charge of intel will know quite quickly as intel sources from friendly countries which used to be exchanged with American intel vanish. Once our allies calculate that sharing intel with America is the same as sharing it with Russia (or China or whatever country Trump is blabbering with), the stream will go dry.

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*coors

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All appointed by whom? and loyal to whom? Obviously Trump. May as well have said Sean Hannity said it, my friend.

Those were the people in the room. This idea of who appointed someone never came up when Obama people backed up what he said or Hillary people backed up her (sometimes false) statements. When the Obama judge who was his personal friend blocked the travel ban, you all were perfectly cool with that. No way that his friendship or who appointed him had anything to do with it, most of you said.

As I said, these people who were in the meeting are not known to be liars either personally or professionally. So why would we take the word of a supposed person who may not have even been in the room over their word?

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The intensity of delusion suffered by Trump supporters is breathtaking. You claim this is fake news because Trump appointees in the room claim it is while the sources are anonymous. Where do you think Trump appointees' loyalties lay?

Oh, and there is this:

"Three White House officials who were in the May 10 meeting strongly denounced the story, saying no intelligence sources and methods were discussed — but they didn't deny that classified information was disclosed.

The Post story — which was later confirmed by The New York Times and BuzzFeed News — does not claim that Trump revealed any specific information about how the intelligence was gathered."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-trump-shared-secret-russians-220346368--politics.html

Some of you, and you know who you are (Bass and Black), are conflating sharing of classified intelligence with sharing how that intelligence was gathered. This is exactly what the WH officials are doing as well in the hopes of altering the perception of what actually happened.

Facts: Causing conservatives headaches since forever.

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@Black:

You are misrepresenting what the people in the room said. I made it easy for you in my preceding post.

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So if this story had happened in the same way when Obama was in office, all those very little pro Trump pro republic fingers, would be typing away on the post consumed with rage and anger.

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We'll see if the White House actually wants to quibble with any specifics in The Post's reporting. So far, they haven't cited anything specific that's false. And that's pretty telling.

So Mc Master said this: 'The story that came out tonight, as reported, is false.' So now people wont accept it is false because he didnt cite specifically what was false? I have no idea what kind of world we live in anymore. He said what they discussed so that means anything outside of that which was in the report is obviously false. Does he need to go sentence by sentence and say yes or no through the whole article? Jeez....

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The story that came out tonight as reported is false," .....

"At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed. The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.

That statement does not deny the claim that Trump disclosed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation.

Reading between the lines, Trump was spouting off (again) about how great he is, what great intel he has, how hugely important and wonderful he is.

He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.

Very pithy.

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@Black:

When the Obama judge who was his personal friend blocked the travel ban, you all were perfectly cool with that

You clearly are not familiar with the justice system. Prosecutors and defense attorneys are often times personal friends. This does not get in the way of them zealously representing their clients. (A prosecutor's client is the state.) This works because they have integrity, just like judges. Trump and his supporters should try the integrity thing sometimes, it's refreshing.

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Blacklabel: "Those were the people in the room."

And who's fault is that? It is Trump, in his infinite stupidity, who allowed Russia in, trusted they would not take photos and post/show photos, and barred the US media instead from being able to verify what happened in his defence. Your justification for what is happening is to point out one of the very reasons why it happened?? Well done!

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What I find strange, is that Trump banned domestic journalists and photographers from the White House meeting, like never mind democracy, just some kind of childish revenge for what he claims are the producers of fake news, but allows entry to a Russian photographer who shouldn't even be in the White House. The downfall of Trump and America will be his loose tongue and endless boasting of his personal achievements.

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@Black:

"The president and the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries including threats to civil aviation," McMaster said.

McMaster never specifically denied that Trump shared classified intelligence.

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Debunked. More fake news from media shills with TDS : Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Well, at least you can admit you are extremely frustrated with Trump.

I'm sorry, let me clarify and redefine my point. I'm frustrated with Democrats and the MSM. Hope that clears everything up.

you're all for crooked government,

Not at all, that's why I didn't vote for Hillary.

tax breaks for the rich,

Yes

a scrapped EPA and DOE, a president and his family running the government like a business and profiting privately, as long as a few coal miners can go to work and buy their cans of miller and colors lite?

Thank God for that.

The left should have thought about all that when their candidate didn't bother to visit Wisconsin. Suck it up. Life ain't that bad.

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If the alleged information potentially saves a Russian planeload of passengers, then there must be a silver lining to this.

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@Frederic:

You clearly didn't read my previous posts. Nothing has been debunked, no matter how much Trump supports conflate what Trump appointees said with what was reported.

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Trump supporter's tolerance for his stupidity is alarming.

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Snowden, Trump, Manning. What do they have in common?

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Bass / Black Those in the room ( The Russians ) have state they received the information about ISIS but not the source of the information. That info was about ISIS planed air terror attacks. Australia has stated They did not receive any info concerning ISIS. Australia is one of the 5 I,s and it a given that high intelligence justice this is share with each of the 5 nation. These Nations are Allies on the ground with the USA fighting ISIS but Trump see it fit to hand this info to the Russian instead of the 5 I,s first, which the Russians have admitted were given during the Oval office meeting. Why have Australia come out and stated not getting the ISIS info is because They want take this idiot Trump Politics, Just like Trump got told buy their PM in a phone call we all know about. This Idiot Trump has non friends in Australia, but as mates will stick by the USA because they know Trump does not represent the the Majority of it good Citizens.

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Trump supporter's tolerance for his stupidity is alarming.

Trump hatred is sadly astounding.

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Trump is like a drunk person trying to park a tank in an airport parking structure for ordinary cars. He is simply oblivious to the damage he is doing all around him. Well actually he's like a drunk person, period. Despite apparently never touching a drop! Maybe he should take it up, that might improve things!

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Trump hatred is sadly astounding.

I don't think most people's eyes will open until it sinks to the level of birtherism.

He's lowered the bar to such a level it is now close to impossible to astound anyone.

I just hope people against Trump have the dignity to call out revolting trash if some stoop to the levels set by the Pesident of the US.

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I see the alt left is out enmass.

Well I don't think I need to remind anyone to refrain from dwelling in the realm of fantasy and consider the actual facts on the ground. In unknown source spouted this garbage and it was refuted by a person that was actually in the room. With some common sense, using the aforementioned info, what sounds more likely?

Whatever happened to real journalism? That made hard evidence based pieces and didn't rely on rag sales through absurd sensationalism. And the alt left wonders why everyone else does not find the msm credible anymore.

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No Bass the word your looking for is pity for a this Idiot, hatred is for evil people, Like the Taliban and Russian who are are arming the Taliban right now and passing on intelligence they just receive about the Taliban Allie ISIS . Hatred for Asard for cem bombing. Trump is not hated, He is dislike, he is a fool, he is not tolerated, he lies But he is not hated, maybe by a herd of ex employees who Trump ripped off. But most of the comments on JT are referring to Trump lack of political intellect.

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The elitist Liberal hatred for Donald Trump has distorted their view of reality.

Meh. Constant lies, inappropriate sexual misconduct, racism, cronyism, threats, narcissism... they all add up.

And what about "America First"? The isolationist stance? We've had misadventure in Yemen, MOAB in Afghanistan, missiles in Syria and a maritime meander towards the DPRK.

Reality is through the looking glass as regards Trump and his administration.

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@Wallace:

The unnamed sources were also in the room. Additionally, there was no refutation of anything.

You, like Frederic, clearly didn't my previous post containing quotes with cites. Facts are enlightening; give them a shot if you think your allergy thereto won't act up too much.

@Bass:

You seem to have given up on attempting to substantively rebut any comments. If/when you decide to resume, please use facts with cites. Also, try not to conflate those aforementioned facts.

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@bass Trump hatred is sadly astounding.Wonder why that is...

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Toasted The MOAB was a positive, was, ISIS and the Taliban had been storing arms in those caves and it would take months to did them out, but now the Taliban have stuck a deal with Russia to fight ISIS for Arms. But I assume this was pre planed not recent intel so Trump was not in the loop but took credit for it.

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Whatever happened to real journalism?

Two words: Fox "News".

American journalism may never recover.

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I don't think most people's eyes will open until it sinks to the level of birtherism. 

Still on that??? We are so over that.

He's lowered the bar to such a level it is now close to impossible to astound anyone. 

I think his predecessor did a very good job lowering the bar to snake belly level.

No Bass the word your looking for is pity for a this Idiot, hatred is for evil people, Like the Taliban and Russian who are are arming the Taliban right now and passing on intelligence they just receive about the Taliban Allie ISIS .

What?

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Paul Ryan asks Trump for an explanation over Blabbergate, how long before he shown the frontgate?

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Still on that??? We are so over that.

It took Trump five years to get over it. We still have many years left in the bank to call him out on it.

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Wonder why that is...

Because Dems are used to getting their way always are and are terrible losers....still.

@John

"Hatred" I think the way liberals understand the definition equates to being: anyone disagreeing with our progressive policies is hateful, spiteful and a racist. Yeah, I understand the definition.

You seem to have given up on attempting to substantively rebut any comments. If/when you decide to resume, please use facts with cites. Also, try not to conflate those aforementioned facts.

Excuse me, where on Earth made you think that?? ROFL

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A level-headed, thoughtful and in-part legal analysis of this farce. Highly recommended read.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bombshell-initial-thoughts-washington-posts-game-changing-story

Relevant parts about the denial by McMaster and Tillerson.

Deputy national security advisor Dina Powell has denied the story as false. Notably, national security advisor General H.R. McMaster limited his denial to the fact that, “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.” Likewise, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has denied disclosure of any information on “sources, methods or military operations.” These are both very carefully worded statements that leave open the possibility that classified information was disclosed other than sources and methods or that classified information was disclosed which might be used as a basis to infer sources and methods not directly disclosed.

Leaving that aside, I also love the way Trump is reported to have brought up the classified info.

In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” Trump said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.

The fact that we all know and can easily imagine Trump being perfectly capable of making that statement is just astounding. The President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is boasting like a third-grader with an overly inflated ego.

I wonder what US allies will think now before sharing intel with the US? And what if their distrust of Trump causes them to withhold crucial intel and leads to a terror attack in the US? I suppose the Trump brigade would still defend him.

Knew I should have invested in popcorn and soda stocks.

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@bass

Because Dems are used to getting their way always are and are terrible losers....still.

I would say that's a pretty childish generalization.

For the sake of your own education as a journalist, and for the betterment of humankind, let me advise you to improve your rhetorical skills by arguing your points beyond:

1) generalizing negatively about a group that you don't feel a part of.

2) resorting to irrelevant "whataboutisms".

3) attacking sources of information because of their perceived political affiliation rather than the integrity of their journalism and a track record thereof.

This is a serious issue. Had Obama been reported to have glibly passed off sensitive national security info to a foreign power, I would have been gravely concerned. So should you be now. This is real, man. This is not a joke.

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 I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'll take GWB any day over Trump.

> A statement I never thought I would agree with but GWB looks like a collosal intelectual in comparison with the resident village idiot in the WH

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@Bass:

You seem to have given up on attempting to substantively rebut any comments. If/when you decide to resume, please use facts with cites. Also, try not to conflate those aforementioned facts.

Excuse me, where on Earth made you think that?? ROFL

Your posts, of course.

No need to I'll on the floor while leaving facts at the door, it's not the cleanest place. See what I did there? I took what you said and added to it what I wanted to hear, which is exactly what Trump supporters are doing with the statements provided by McMaster et al.

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@Plastic:

Your 8:44 pm post is spot on in your analysis of Bass' rhetorical style. Unfortunately, Bass' style is that of a vast number of conservatives.

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I don't think most people's eyes will open until it sinks to the level of birtherism. 

Still on that??? We are so over that.

Who is 'we'? The lunatic fringe? I like to mention it to remind people that up until last year or so ago, Trump was still in this idiotic, trashy and sinister camp. We are not talking about a young man here - we are talking about a man of retirement age. Keep this stupid crap in mind while complaining about unfair and biased attacks from the libs.

You often do the knee-jerk retort that Obama did pretty much everything the same or worse than Trump. The idea that Obama lowered the tone in the same way Trump has may not fly even over on the lunatic fringe. Just...no.

Honest Trump supporters admitted he's a crass, loutish loudmouth but voted for him in spite of this. I'm not sure how many of them underestimated his incompetence.

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The unnamed sources were also in the room. 

Ok if that's the case, then clearly what the general said regarding it never happening is a lie right? I know the alt left ridicules trump left right and center but come on, hie in the world would he put himself in such a position if there wasn't any truth to it? And could these 'unamed' sources please stand up? If you're telling the truth, what's the point in remaining anonymous?

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As president, I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled WH meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety

This from Trump on Twitter.

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I guess it depends upon what Highly Classified information was shared ?

For example, we're going to bombing such and such a location tomorrow, could you advise your forces not to target us... or was he giving away names of operatives who were reporting back intelligence ?

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Bass: hatred and now progressive. Once again hatred is not disagreeing. I disagree with my wife all the time but I don't hate her and she voted conversitive once. Progression means move forward , from little to big. from good to better. In 4 months really just one of Trump progressive issues have pass congress. None have Yet pass the senate. So your meaning progression must mean stall. No moment does not count has progressive. Don't Quote recent active because that a result from the Obama adim cycle. Shares are another story. They gain, they when up because Trump was elected but now are at pre election levels. Now that does involves the Trump adim cycle. So there is no evident of Progressive Politics. A Lot of evident for Knee jerk reaction Politics, Syria bombing because of his daughter brought his attention to the cem bombing That would be Knee jerk, . Appointing Adiministers and then having them resign. Knee Neck selection of administers. Sacking the FBI and the only reason was he is doing a bad Job. That Knee Jerk. Tweeting Comey you better not release tapes, again knee jerk. Sorry that really not progressive. These topic are all facts not hear say. This is what Trump has achieved in 4 months. You dislike Obama ok but in his first 4 months he had to change a lot of old way and pass over 20 issues concerning the recovery of 2008 fall out. That is progressive Politic. You can argue if it was or was not successful, but it is Progressive not like Trump first 4 months of nothing.

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Swift_Justice Today  09:52 pm JST

@Plastic:

Your 8:44 pm post is spot on in your analysis of Bass' rhetorical style. Unfortunately, Bass' style is that of a vast number of conservatives.

I wouldn't be so down on conservatives, especially not ones who describe Trump's administration as being in "a downward spiral".

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Jimizo I stand corrected. At this rate afraid trump won't last very long.

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For the sake of your own education as a journalist, and for the betterment of humankind, let me advise you to improve your rhetorical skills by arguing your points beyond:

That's ok, I don't need any advice to move me from the path of criticizing the failed and deeply flawed liberal progressive mindset.

This is a serious issue. Had Obama been reported to have glibly passed off sensitive national security info to a foreign power, I would have been gravely concerned.

I doubt it, liberals would waste no time in justifying his actions in some manner as in Benghazi, so NO, I'm not buying it.

So should you be now. This is real, man. This is not a joke.

I don't think it's a joke either, but I don't think that's the issue that's really of concern to liberals, they just want Trump impeached, so whatever they can conjure up, push their narrative, fabricate or distort, whatever tool they can find in their arsenal, they will use.

Who is 'we'? The lunatic fringe?

That would be defining the Washington establishment, right on!

  • I like to mention it to remind people that up until last year or so ago, Trump was still in this idiotic, trashy and sinister camp. We are not talking about a young man here - we are talking about a man of retirement age. Keep this stupid crap in mind while complaining about unfair and biased attacks from the libs. *

Yeah, well...anyway....Hillary and Bernie are retirement as well, I guess they're equally part of the so called-fringe group.

You often do the knee-jerk retort that Obama did pretty much everything the same or worse than Trump.

Worse in so many ways, that's correct.

The idea that Obama lowered the tone in the same way Trump has may not fly even over on the lunatic fringe. Just...no. 

The Dems and the GOP have been on the lunatic side for awhile. Depressing!

Honest Trump supporters admitted he's a crass, loutish loudmouth but voted for him in spite of this. I'm not sure how many of them underestimated his incompetence.

Yeah, they make up about 0.1%

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People aren't reading or thinking.

What do we really know. Journalists can put anything out there now and it will be picked up by the world's newspapers as fact.

How about facts.

  1. All those who are prepared to be named, have said this story is false.

  2. We have a newspaper who claims they received classified information from "unnamed officials" who "claim" that Trump gave this classified information to Russians.

So, we should be investigating these "officials" for giving "classified information" to journalists at the Washington Post.

BUt here we have it. Any newspaper now can say anything. And the Trump-hating sore losers will run with it.

What if someone says something crazy like Seth Rich was murdered for being the source for the wikileaks.

Will the Washington Post and CNN and the Hillary fans here who think they are brave members of the resistance run with that?

Probably not.

Everyday, the media and those who lost, are looking for ways to get rid of the democratically elected President.

American is getting scary.

I can see if nothing else works, they'll be marching on the White House.

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Legally, the president can reveal anything he wants by deciding to declassifying, including the nuclear codes

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I don't need any advice to move me from the path of criticizing the failed and deeply flawed liberal progressive mindset.

liberals would waste no time in justifying his actions

I don't think that's the issue that's really of concern to liberals

Hillary and Bernie are retirement

Thanks for the substantive rebuttal. You've convinced me.

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And once again Trump makes his supporters looking stupid for blindly following him!

Fools.

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And once again Trump makes his supporters looking stupid for blindly following him!

Seems like their eyes are wide open.

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gaijinpapa: What Trump did was very stupid. He gave info that 4 nation should of receive first. They have a agreement to share Highly classified Intelligent with the other 4. They Are Canada, UK, Australia and Ireland, Yet The Australian Government stated That they did not receive this intelligence. So Trump keep the 4 Allies in the dark but told the Russian the info but not the source which Trump has tweeted. Mate that not on, When The 4 Allies are part of the coalition fighting ISIS, The last time I heard Russia was helping Asard and arming the Taliban. Do you think the other 4 nation will share any info now with Trump after giving it away to a non coalition member, Russia. Get real this a international insult by Trump to USA closest Allies. No info will be pass on to the USA until Trump is gone. That a Fact.

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So Trump used the media to whip up this story because usually they would retaliate if they're kept out of the conversation. Whatever discussed most likely isn't all that classified and the Russian probably already knew about it. But the story about US sharing "classified" information to the Russians suggest that these two parties are getting chumpy and whoever their common target is from all this should feel nervous.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39937258

Uh huh, "absolute right". Sounds like "divine right" of ye olden despots of bygone ages.

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100% fake news. the dems are desperate and they know they are going to jail.

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Whatever discussed most likely isn't all that classified and the Russian probably already knew about it.

According to the sources that reported it, it was literally the highest level of top secret with a code word. That means that only people with top secret clearance AND clearance for that code word have access to it.

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According to the sources that reported it, it was literally the highest level of top secret with a code word. That means that only people with top secret clearance AND clearance for that code word have access to it.

This story will not be verified/proven like the hacking story. Anybody can make up just about anything because the content can not be revealed due to its "classified" nature. But if it was actually top secret material, that's good.

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Well Trump obviously needs to get this out of the headlines. Who will he bomb next? Another termination? More baseless claims about Obama?

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I think he'd be better back on his remedial level Super, perhaps dissing Rosie O'donnell or appearing on the Roast of Justin Bieber....

Either way he's an embarrassment to the US and the rest of the world. What a mess....

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Or wait, is this the incident to get the Comey news out of the headline? It's getting hard to keep track of his screw ups....

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It is hilarious how Trump supporters are claiming that anonymous sources have no credibility, or less credibility than named sources. How'd that work out during Watergate? Exactly.

Then there is this, hot off the press:

“The president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from,” McMaster told reporters during a press briefing at the White House on Tuesday. “He wasn’t even briefed on the sources or method of this information, either.”

McMaster would not say whether Trump divulged highly classified information in his meeting in the Oval Office last week, as the Washington Post reported Monday evening.

“What I will tell you is that in the context of that discussion, what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate,” McMaster said, “and is consistent with the routine sharing of information with the president and any leaders with whom he is engaged.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcmaster-defends-trumps-decision-reveal-intelligence-russians-171103306.html

Now, if the Post report were incorrect, wouldn't McMaster come out and specifically deny the information from the anonymous sources? The answer is yes, he would. Add to the above Trump's tweet about his absolute right to reveal classified information and the logical inference is the anonymous sources were 100% correct.

How are you Trump supporters going to try to spin these facts to fit your narrative? It's okay to admit you made a mistake. In fact, that is the hallmark of intellectual honesty and integrity.

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Trump been screaming Fake new again about this topic. Trump morning tweet has turn 180 % about it being Fake new. How do you feel Base and Black and the rest of the trumpets. When you been defending this fool for for months and he come out and tweet that statement this morning. Man you must feel like a complete idiot , fool. dumb, or, gullible. So how does it feel defending this idiot fake news, Now Trump has tweeted that is true that he pass on info to the Russians before passing it on to USA Allies. Trump stated that giving the info to the Russians to make America safer, He has even release the source that being Israeli, now do you think the Jew wanted that info out there ?Yes Trump says he have the absolute right to give out any info. Yes He has the right but in doing so made to biggest intel blunder since the WW2. He just alianated USA 4 closes Allies who will not deal with USA until Trump is removed. That what you get for electing a fool, a Idiot. Like his form was worse then Hills and people still voted for him. When troop death number start going up just remember Trumps has given right to disclose Intel to the Russians first. Just remember Trump own words when terror attack kills American on USA soil and intel was not pass on fearing that it will go the enemy.

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Whatever side you're on, Trump is putting on quite a show.

Russians must be loving the fact that their arch rivals are internally squabbling about the extent of Russian control of the US government.

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Either way he's an embarrassment to the US and the rest of the world. What a mess....

Naw, bro! The real embarrassment is watching the desperate Democrats whine and carry on like spoiled children, but to a small point amusing...

Or wait, is this the incident to get the Comey news out of the headline? It's getting hard to keep track of his screw ups....

The MSM reminds me of a bunch of greedy hungry Koi, always looking for something to feed on wherever you walk, they follow, desperation is the way of libs. LOL

100% fake news. the dems are desperate and they know they are going to jail.

Hey! What do you expect? The Dems broke every rule book over the past 8 years even when the former candidate sold a US uranium mine to the Russians, outrage....Nope. Typical.

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@Bass, Black, et al.:

Are you even going to acknowledge how incorrect you were regarding Trump intentionally divulging highly classified information to the Russians? I already know that you won't, but just to put a fine tip on my point:

From a couple of Bass' previous posts:

So can you prove that Trump intentionally gave the information to the Russians? You guys can't seem to get it through your heads. Could it be problematic, could be. Impeachable, no. Even if the facts are true and the president unintentionally gave out information.

Incompetent? Stupid? Not befitting of a president? 

Unintentional, negligent

I don't think it's a joke either, but I don't think that's the issue that's really of concern to liberals, they just want Trump impeached, so whatever they can conjure up, push their narrative, fabricate or distort, whatever tool they can find in their arsenal, they will use.

From a couple of Black's previous posts:

It took the media several days to make up something to use against Trump as far as the meeting with the Russians that they didnt like.

But because libs so desperately want this to be true they will accept unnamed reports leaked to newspapers over the public statements of actual human beings.

I like how you guys try to do this. Unnamed sources leak false stories. People who were actually there say it didnt happen, but you discredit them because they work for Trump. Who else would be there except Trump staff? So he can never sufficiently prove ANYthing to your liking.

Simple, to tell them that the Washington Post report is false. Based on the public statements of the Secretary of State, National Security advisor and his deputy who were in attendance at the meeting.

Again, thank you to those that created the cut and paste function. You made it so much easier to use people's own words to remind them of just how incorrect they were.

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Guess what, Trump apologists:

"According to the Times report, which has since been confirmed by multiple news outlets, Trump broached the subject of the investigation into Flynn’s ties with Russia and asked Comey to “let this go.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-trump-asked-comey-end-flynn-investigation-221236730.html

Let me guess, it is fake news. Just like Trump disclosing highly classified intelligence to the Russians, correct? How'd that work out for you?

Cue the denials and obfuscations.

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Trump has now admitted in his tweets that he did divulge classified information to the Russians.

All of you who claimed this story was "fake news", i.e. gaijiinpapa, forgetaboutit, Blacklabel, Wallace Fred, cherrytime et al. please feel free to admit that you were wrong.

I also look forward to reading your explanations as to why it is fine for Trump to give away intelligence on a whim, but a heinous crime when somebody else leaves intelligence in a place where it may possibly be accessed by others. I wasn't surprised that none of you saw fit to answer that when I asked it earlier.

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Now, after letting McMaster go out and say it didn't happen - what an about turn. I'd be mortified if I was him.

Remember what Trump said about Hillary and confidentiality?

"We can't have someone in the Oval Office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified."

Will the lemmings who support this clown now 'fess up that they got it wrong? Place yer bets, folks...

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when the former candidate sold a US uranium mine to the Russians

Anyone want to place bets on whether Bass actually believes that this actually happened? I put it at 50/50. He may actually have fallen for the lies his MSM was feeding him, but it could be that he is just being purposely deceitful to detract from his loser president's abject failures.

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“He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.”

God bless america (and the world) with a president like that.

The White House said the allegations, first reported by the Washington Post, were not true.

Trump has now admitted in his tweets that he did divulge classified information to the Russians.

Well Trump may or may not have the right to divulge classified information but the most important is that ...under Trump, the White House is now officially lying to the general public (and spreading fake new).

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when the former candidate sold a US uranium mine to the Russians

What exactly happened here? She is a uranium broker as her side business? Please explain.

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The point is, you can be fair or you be partisan and the media chooses to be partisan, if the roles were reversed and Trump did the exact same thing Hillary did, the fallout and the brain hemorrhaging that would ensue from the left would be apocalyptic. But anyway, she didn't become president, so I don't have to worry, it's all water under the bridge now.

The 2010 deal for a majority stake of Canadian-based Uranium One – which required approval from Clinton’s State Department and eight other federal agencies – and its plausible connection to major donations to the Clinton Foundation was exposed by author Peter Schweizer in his book “Clinton Cash and confirmed in a 3,000 word, front-page story by the New York Times.

Former Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer was among several individuals connected to the deal who made donations to the Clinton Foundation. Telfer made four foreign donations totaling $2.35 million, the Times reported.

The donations flowed as the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013. Snopes and other “fact checkers” who insist there was no quid pro quo have argued that most of the donations were made in 2008, before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state. But she was running for president at that time.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/russia-scandal-inside-the-obama-clinton-uranium-deal/#bdzT6WMGmSYse3LU.99

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Former Uranium One chairman Ian Telfer

What exactly was the Crime Hillary did? Why isn't she under arrest? All three branches of government are conservative now! And Trump promised her arrest!

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@Bass:

You've become awfully quiet regarding your baby in the White House handing top secret intelligence to the Russians. Why is that?

I presented facts and your own words, but you chose to clam up instead of admitting the error of your ways. Good conservative.

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@Bass:

*and confirmed in a 3,000 word, front-page story by the New York Times.*

Isn't the New York Times part of the liberal, unfair MSM that you are constantly decrying as printing fake news? It does nothing for your credibility to cite a source you constantly whinge about being unfair and publishing fake stories. Or, is the Times credible when it supports your position?

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@Bass:

. But anyway, she didn't become president, so I don't have to worry, it's all water under the bridge now.

Apparently is its t "all water under the bridge now" given you constantly moan about it.

Come on. You are making this far too easy.

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Well lets hope this Comey business gets the attention it deserves, sure forum right wingers, with evidence, due process and so on, but the accusation that the sitting President asked that an active investigation 'go away', then removed the person heading the organization currently investigating issues related to them is at odds with the very ideals of a free and democratic government system and about as serious as it gets.

Politics isn't easy, its not a business, at its best its not about quarters or simply ensuring you are elected once more, or that your chosen side of the political spectrum gets what it wants at all costs, or single handedly making all the decisions, its long term plans to help as many people as possible have better lives. At its worst is difficult choices and interactions that require intelligent, measured, appropriate, well thought out responses and decisions.

This additional gaff, or mistake, or unwise choice, whatever it is, on top of the tweets, hung up phones, the serious nature of the Comey situation and so on, in my opinion, just further shows that this person is not fit for this position.

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And once again Trump makes his supporters looking stupid for blindly following him!

Fools.

Like I said previously, name calling in any forum is grossly immature.

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@Wallace:

A few other things that are immature: refusing to admit when one is incorrect; misrepresenting facts (you know, when McMaster never refuted the only point the Post article made but you insisted he did); complaining about solid journalism "scraping the bottom of the barrel; and jumping to unfounded conclusions.

Conservative mouthpieces are extremely predictable in their inability to think for themselves.

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@Bass:

This is too much fun to quit now. Your own source for the non-controversy regarding Uranium One shows just how much of a non-issue it was:

"*The 2010 deal for a majority stake of Canadian-based Uranium One – which required approval from Clinton’s State Department *and eight other federal agencies . . . "

Move bolded to operative part to make it easier for you to read. Now, I'll connect the dots for you. Since eight (8) agencies beyond the State Department had to approve the sale, Clinton was not able to do it unilaterally. If she wasn't able to do it unilaterally, then any influence, no matter how tenuous, upon her would not have matter enough to make the sale a controversy.

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Where did bass4funk go now that the "lies" have been admitted by Trump?

bass4funk: "The point is..."

That you said it was all lies, and it is not. So, what do you say now that it's true? How about starting with any apology for being wrong... unless you were lying, too.

"But anyway, she didn't become president, so I don't have to worry,"

Hahaha... you're nearly as bad as Trump with the "I won! I won!" whenever he is stupid enough to make a massive mistake, which is every single day.

Blacklable: "Simple, to tell them that the Washington Post report is false. Based on the public statements of the Secretary of State, National Security advisor and his deputy who were in attendance at the meeting."

Oops! haha. Guess you also need to do the same as bass.

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refusing to admit when one is incorrect; 

Jimizo can vouch for my retraction. A little scrolling goes a long way.

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The Idiot-in-Chief's national security advisor, McMaster, said: "I was in the room. It didn't happen."

And then, just a few hours later, Trump took to twitter to justify his actions, and thus admitting that "it" did indeed happen.

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That you said it was all lies, and it is not. So, what do you say now that it's true? How about starting with any apology for being wrong... unless you were lying, too. 

Being wrong? How so?

Hahaha... you're nearly as bad as Trump with the "I won! I won!" whenever he is stupid enough to make a massive mistake, which is every single day. 

Not like when you guys say, "but she won the popular vote" but anyway, she's not in office, so that's all I care about.

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Trump's admission was not that he leaked CLASSIFIED information. He said he told them things that his position as President allows him to tell them. That was what the whole newspaper story was about, classified information and telling them something he shouldnt have. Then the newspaper even clarified it was from Israel, which IS the classified part of it. Israel put out a statement saying everything was fine with what was said by Trump, but newspaper ignores and keeps pushing the narrative.

Show me where Trump admitted to leaking anything classified. McMaster and everyone else in the room also said he didnt leak CLASSIFIED information.

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@Black:

 McMaster and everyone else in the room also said he didnt leak CLASSIFIED information.

No it isn't what McMaster said. He said Trump didn't reveal intelligence sources or methods. McMaster never denied classified info was revealed.

No, not everyone in the room said this. The WP's sources said he did.

If Trump didn't reveal classified info., why doesn't he directly deny it? Why doesn't McMaster? If it did not happen there is no reason not to directly deny it. That's called a logical inference, which is completely different than the wild speculation you employ.

To learn more about how you are incorrrct, read my previous posts.

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The attacks on Donald Trump are unwarrented. Yes he is brash and someone should tell him not so much reacting to every little hit his way.  But he has done more then most in his first 100's in office, of course you will not hear that from the media in US. The Democrats have been nothing but road blocks and hypocrites. It was nothing to see here when Obama and Hillary were running the show, with gun running and dead americans. Now that Donald is in, if he breaths in the wrong direction the Democrats attack. I gave Obama 2 years when he was first elected, now i will give Donald 2 years too. Also as president he has the legal right to share sensitive information with others if it with be in national security interest. The info that was shared has already been made public before. The real problem is the people who are leaking anything they think is wrong. These people if caught will do prison time.

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The Democrats have been nothing but road blocks and hypocrites.

Taking a page from the Republican rule book. Remember when teh Republicans shut down the government in their obstructionism?

Now that Donald is in, if he breaths in the wrong direction the Democrats attack.

Remember the time the Republican did that to Obama for eight straight years?

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Remember the time the Republican did that to Obama for eight straight years?

So two wrongs make a right? Are we ten now? Whatever happened to taking the high road? smh!!

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So two wrongs make a right?

Ahh the good old republican 'do as we say, not as we do'. Aka 'we won't take the high road, but you have to'.

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Ahh the good old republican 'do as we say, not as we do'. Aka 'we won't take the high road, but you have to'.

Until Dems start making winning record elections, I'll just keep yawning and as crazy as they have been and going on a whining campaign, that might take a very long time.

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the good old republican

Umm, I'll stop you right there. For the billionth time, I'm not republican. Not democrat. And your response does not negate the fact that two wrongs don't make a right!!

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Can't we all just agree that President Trump's problem is intelligence?

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Can't we all just agree that President Trump's problem is intelligence?

LOL! Yes, put that way, I think we can.

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But he has done more then most in his first 100's in office

More to destroy the reputation of the US than many of his predecessors.

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And your response does not negate the fact that two wrongs don't make a right!!

Then we should all cool our jets, have a Frappuccino and wait until we know more. Two wrongs don't make a right, but that doesn't mean, you're not allowed to make a wrong.

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I don't understand the problem here. The president has overall declassification authority to release any information he sees fit. Plus in this article it said that he didn't release anything that wasn't already known to the public. So why is the point of this entire article and what is everyone making such a big fuss over?

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I'll make a prediction.

Trump will be cleared.

But then media and democrats will start on some other made-up story.,

i predicted Trump would win.,

the same media people most of you are listening to now are the same ones who told you Trump could never win.

Dont get fooled twice.

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Dont get fooled twice.

Tune in to the real media like Fox, Breitbart & Info Wars?

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the president has the authority to disclose even the most highly classified information at will

And that's all there is to it.

This is not a story, it never was a story, it is just an anecdote bent and shaped into a story. If this is the only substance to the "Russia-gate" theory, then they might as cut their losses right now, and move on.

Has nothing been learned since November? It's been 7 months, and the media still cannot figure Trump out. If they are not continuing to underestimate him, they continue to mis-estimate him.

Trump has made the fatal mistake of not kowtowing to the media, a mistake which Bush made back in 2000. The only thing Bush said was that he didn't read the papers, and the media thought this implied that Bush didn't like them (which was true, but I also doubt he could read an entire newspaper without help). They never forgave him for this, and never overlooked a chance to take a stab at him. And Bush, being dumb as a rock, and a president who couldn't manage a McDonald's properly, gave them lots of material to take a stab at.

Trump has gone much farther, calling the media liars, even to their faces. The media don't see themselves as objective reporters of facts, they see themselves as champions of the truth. Ironically, their definition of "truth" is relative to whatever ideology they or their sponsors believe it to be, this goes for CNBC and Fox News equally. But even though what they report is not objective, and at the best of times only vaguely resembles the truth, they are easily offended when someone dares to call them liars.

Trump is not stupid. He may be a lot of things, and most of them not good, but he is not stupid. Stupid people do not become billionaires or become the president of the USA. If those who hate him, and those who oppose him think he is stupid, what does that make them?

Lastly, how did we end up with Trump as president? It is not Trump's fault his is president, it is the fault of of America's political system, which has decayed to the point that Trump could win. If America's political system were effective, and served the people, rather than ruled them, Trump could not have possibly won. Trump is a symptom of a greater problem, and rather than hating Trump, we should be hating those in Washington who have brought us to where we are now.

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Putin's Pansy gave Putin's representatives classified information. Who would have thunk it.

Meanwhile, Congressional Republicans, instead of caring about Trump's treason, are more concerned about getting some of Putin's money for themselves. "Hey boys! The line to sell out America forms over here!"

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