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U.S., Britain tell China and Russia: The West is not over yet

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By William James and Guy Faulconbridge

The Group of Seven aims to court new allies to counter challenges from China and Russia without holding Beijing down and while pursuing more stable ties with the Kremlin, two of its top diplomats said on Monday.

Ahead of the first in-person G7 foreign ministers meeting since 2019, U.S. President Joe Biden's secretary of state, Antony Blinken, sought to foster a message of multilateralism after four years of Twitter-diplomacy under Donald Trump variously shocked, bewildered and alarmed many Western allies.

Founded in 1975 as a forum for the West’s richest nations to discuss crises such as the OPEC oil embargo, the G7 this week is discussing China and Russia as well as battling the COVID-19 pandemic and the spread of climate change.

"It is not our purpose to try to contain China or to hold China down," Blinken told reporters at a news conference alongside British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab.

He said the West would defend "the international rules based order" from subversive attempts by any country, including China.

China’s spectacular economic and military rise over the past 40 years is seen as being among the most significant geopolitical events of recent times, alongside the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union which ended the Cold War.

The diplomats were keen to let the world know the West will assert itself. Raab spoke of building alliances rather than severing them.

"I do see the increasing demand and need for agile clusters of like-minded countries that share the same values and want to protect the multilateral system," Raab said. "We can see a shift towards that pattern of clusters of like-minded countries agile enough to work together."

Even without its broader alliance, the G7 still packs a punch: combined it is much bigger than China both economically and militarily.

Longer term, there are deep concerns in both Washington and European capitals about how the West should act towards both Beijing and Moscow.

Blinken said the United States would prefer more stable ties with Russia but that much depended on how Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to act, especially in theaters such as Ukraine which Blinken will visit later this week.

"We have reaffirmed our unwavering support for the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine," Blinken said.

"We're not looking to escalate: we would prefer to have a more stable, more predictable relationship. And if Russia moves in that direction, so will we."

Raab said on Sunday the G7 would look at a proposal to build a rapid response mechanism to counter Russian disinformation, and, in a reference to China, spoke of the need to stand up for open markets and democracy.

In addition to the G7 members Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States, Britain has also invited ministers from Australia, India, South Africa and South Korea.

The ministers will lay the groundwork for Biden's first scheduled trip abroad since taking office: a G7 summit in Britain next month.

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U.S., Britain tell China and Russia: The West is not over yet

They should probably check with the American Democrats and the British Labour party rank-and-file. They would like nothing better than to fundamentally end their countries- as they currently exists.

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Blinken said the United States would prefer more stable ties with Russia

Blinken is starting to blink.

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They are pushing Russia and China closer, both nuclear armed.

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Well, if Trump had been re-elected in Nov, both Russia and China would be saying; "Welcome comrade"....

Thank goodness we now have a President that believes in democracy and freedom, rather than a puppet autocrat and admirer of dictators...

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Well, if Trump had been re-elected in Nov, both Russia and China would be saying; "Welcome comrade"....

While Biden still will never wag his finger in Chinese face, the guy doesn’t want the dragon to bite off his hand, better to appease and capitulate than to anger them.

Thank goodness we now have a President that believes in democracy and freedom,

When it applies to liberals that follow the Marxist progressive line, sure.

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The West is not over yet

The use of the word "yet" implies they know that eventually the West will lose.

With "liberal" values the West no longer has stable families and everybody is just me me me me.

Cultures with stable family structures will outlast the liberal West.

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Well, if Trump had been re-elected in Nov, both Russia and China would be saying; "Welcome comrade"....

While Biden still will never wag his finger in Chinese face, the guy doesn’t want the dragon to bite off his hand, better to appease and capitulate than to anger them.

Or better to give them millions year in and out to make your clothing line that they then use to fund their military....buy a tie or shirt at Trumpstore.com and help fund a Chinese ICBM aimed at us...

Thank goodness we now have a President that believes in democracy and freedom,

When it applies to liberals that follow the Marxist progressive line, sure.

Hmmm.....

"I believe President Putin"... "In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

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"I believe President Putin"... "In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Biden sure loves his Xi.

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March 25

"Biden: China's Xi Jinping doesn't have 'a democratic ... bone in his body'".

and

"Mr Biden said President Xi is “deadly earnest” about China becoming the most significant and consequential nation in the world."

"He also said he told Chinese President Xi Jinping that the United States will maintain a strong military presence in the Indo—Pacific "just as we do for NATO in Europe – not to start conflict – but to prevent one."

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"I believe President Putin"... "In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Biden sure loves his Xi.

Those quotes didn't come from Biden - as a Trump supporter, I'm surprised you don't recognize them...

And there's more...

"Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”

"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days …

“I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736

Almost as big a love-fest as with Kim...

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Trump just cared about trade and money, then when the virus hit it was all about deflecting to China. Biden is building a coalition to challenge the Chinese on all fronts, as a smart American President should.

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"He also said he told Chinese President Xi Jinping that the United States will maintain a strong military presence in the Indo—Pacific "just as we do for NATO in Europe – not to start conflict – but to prevent one."

Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur religious genocide or atrocities or stealing our intellectual properties, fair trade, or any of the forbidden language that Biden is afraid to bring up, we all know why he won't, but he would get a lot more respect if the man were to put his ego and greed aside and confront China on these issues that matter the most, but he won't.

Trump just cared about trade and money, then when the virus hit it was all about deflecting to China.

Of course, if someone rear-ends you, you don't allow the person to walk away, if someone purposely breaks your nose you are not the one that should apologize.

Biden is building a coalition to challenge the Chinese on all fronts, as a smart American President should.

Which basically translates to, optically show defiance, but behind closed doors, appease and capitulate.

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Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur religious genocide or atrocities 

???

U.S. recognition of the genocide against Uighurs was long overdue. The Uighur human rights crisis started in early 2016 and escalated during President Donald Trump’s tenure. 

Mar 31

Biden administration declares Chinese actions in Xinjiang as 'genocide'

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/biden-administration-declares-chinese-actions-in-xinjiang-as-genocide-121033100053_1.html

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Bass: Which basically translates to, optically show defiance, but behind closed doors, appease and capitulate.

Biden is optically showing defiance? In what way?

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Of course, these are nations that started wars (or threatened nuclear war) over things far smaller and aggressive than the things that they are expecting China and Russia to simply smile and swallow.

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Biden is optically showing defiance? In what way?

I already explained, scroll up.

U.S. recognition of the genocide against Uighurs was long overdue. The Uighur human rights crisis started in early 2016 and escalated during President Donald Trump’s tenure. 

He's not in office and let's remember, his first priority was dealing with China and their business practices in regards to intellectual property theft and trade and putting Americans first, Biden calling out China and so what is he going to do? He's not even concerned with our political and domestic disputes we have with China and them meddling in our affairs, so once again capitulating to them and doing nothing, how is this weak guy projecting strength?

Biden administration declares Chinese actions in Xinjiang as 'genocide'

Ok, Trump did as well and took on China, walking and chewing gum at the same time and Biden did what? If he did something it sure was done quietly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2021/01/19/trump-administration-recognizes-the-atrocities-against-the-uyghurs-as-genocide/?sh=2a6563ff15f2

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bass: Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur religious genocide

He brought it up directly with Xi in their first phone call in February. Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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He brought it up directly with Xi in their first phone call in February.

Both Presidents brought it up, the difference was, Trump confrontational with the Chinese for that and other issues, Biden won't and never will.

Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Hmm...China seems very pleased with China. Biden knows where his bread is buttered.

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Bass: Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur

Superlib: He brought it up directly with Xi in their first phone call in February.

Bass: Both Presidents brought it up

Yep.

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Hmm...China seems very pleased with China. Biden knows where his bread is buttered.

As does Donald, considering he paid $99,900 more in income taxes to China than he did to the US government.

What a silly, absurd argument you're trying to make.

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Yep.

And Biden is doing.....

Silence....

As does Donald, considering he paid $99,900 more in income taxes to China than he did to the US government. 

What a silly, absurd argument you're trying to make.

No, not really....

Oh....

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/28/former-hunter-biden-business-associate-claims-he-warned-biden-family-about-alleged-china-ties/

Biden will be singing a very different tune in 2022 not to mention, the GOP Senate can still hold hearings, careful what you wish for Joe.

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Biden will be singing a very different tune in 2022 not to mention, the GOP Senate can still hold hearings, careful what you wish for Joe.

Riiiiggghtttt.... Which is exactly why the US and Japan have again reaffirmed their commitment to defending Taiwan. Obviously Biden is beholden to China, makes total sense. :D

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Which is exactly why the US and Japan have again reaffirmed their commitment to defending Taiwan.

Of course they would, they have to, that is in both Japan's and US interests regardless of Joe, but how will he act, so far, been kinda silent on the rhetoric...smh

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Of course they would, they have to, that is in both Japan's and US interests regardless of Joe, but how will he act, so far, been kinda silent on the rhetoric...smh

Yeah because he isn't a blowhard like Donald. Donald never had a plan. Donald just talks a lot of trash, but never had the stones to actually do anything himself.

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Bass: Silence....

Well I just corrected you is all. You said Biden didn't bring it up, I informed you that he had. Then right after, you described Biden's lack of aggressiveness during the conversation you didn't know even existed.

Anyway, I get it. Even when you have the wrong information about Biden and China, you're still right about Biden and China.

Have a good one.

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Takeda: What a silly, absurd argument you're trying to make.

Trump fans made up their minds about Biden and China before Biden was elected. Reality isn't panning out the way they thought it would, but they are going to stick to their guns anyway.

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Yeah because he isn't a blowhard like Donald. Donald never had a plan.

He did, even Schumer of all people commended him for taking on China, now the liberal Senator is a liar? Definitely not a Trump fan, but praises the guy....

Donald just talks a lot of trash,

Yup and China listened, got their attention instead of yawning when speaking to the last 3 previous Presidents.

Not really interested in garbage Russian propaganda, but I can see why conservatives would be

After 3 years of being debunked the deflection of the Russian delusion, collusion is pretty much rehashed

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Well I just corrected you is all.

Wrongly, but I am always open to a robust debate.

You said Biden didn't bring it up, I informed you that he had.

But did nothing about what I previously said. That"s appeasement.

Even when you have the wrong information about Biden and China,

Not wrong, when the blind left fail to deal with reality what can you do?

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