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© Thomson Reuters 2021.U.S., Britain tell China and Russia: The West is not over yet
By William James and Guy Faulconbridge LONDON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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bass4funk
Wrongly, but I am always open to a robust debate.
But did nothing about what I previously said. That"s appeasement.
Not wrong, when the blind left fail to deal with reality what can you do?
bass4funk
He did, even Schumer of all people commended him for taking on China, now the liberal Senator is a liar? Definitely not a Trump fan, but praises the guy....
Yup and China listened, got their attention instead of yawning when speaking to the last 3 previous Presidents.
After 3 years of being debunked the deflection of the Russian delusion, collusion is pretty much rehashed
SuperLib
Trump fans made up their minds about Biden and China before Biden was elected. Reality isn't panning out the way they thought it would, but they are going to stick to their guns anyway.
SuperLib
Well I just corrected you is all. You said Biden didn't bring it up, I informed you that he had. Then right after, you described Biden's lack of aggressiveness during the conversation you didn't know even existed.
Anyway, I get it. Even when you have the wrong information about Biden and China, you're still right about Biden and China.
Have a good one.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Yeah because he isn't a blowhard like Donald. Donald never had a plan. Donald just talks a lot of trash, but never had the stones to actually do anything himself.
bass4funk
Of course they would, they have to, that is in both Japan's and US interests regardless of Joe, but how will he act, so far, been kinda silent on the rhetoric...smh
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Riiiiggghtttt.... Which is exactly why the US and Japan have again reaffirmed their commitment to defending Taiwan. Obviously Biden is beholden to China, makes total sense. :D
bass4funk
And Biden is doing.....
Silence....
No, not really....
Oh....
https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/28/former-hunter-biden-business-associate-claims-he-warned-biden-family-about-alleged-china-ties/
Biden will be singing a very different tune in 2022 not to mention, the GOP Senate can still hold hearings, careful what you wish for Joe.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
As does Donald, considering he paid $99,900 more in income taxes to China than he did to the US government.
What a silly, absurd argument you're trying to make.
SuperLib
Bass: Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur
Superlib: He brought it up directly with Xi in their first phone call in February.
Bass: Both Presidents brought it up
Yep.
bass4funk
Both Presidents brought it up, the difference was, Trump confrontational with the Chinese for that and other issues, Biden won't and never will.
Hmm...China seems very pleased with China. Biden knows where his bread is buttered.
SuperLib
He brought it up directly with Xi in their first phone call in February. Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
bass4funk
I already explained, scroll up.
He's not in office and let's remember, his first priority was dealing with China and their business practices in regards to intellectual property theft and trade and putting Americans first, Biden calling out China and so what is he going to do? He's not even concerned with our political and domestic disputes we have with China and them meddling in our affairs, so once again capitulating to them and doing nothing, how is this weak guy projecting strength?
Ok, Trump did as well and took on China, walking and chewing gum at the same time and Biden did what? If he did something it sure was done quietly.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2021/01/19/trump-administration-recognizes-the-atrocities-against-the-uyghurs-as-genocide/?sh=2a6563ff15f2
RichardPearce
Of course, these are nations that started wars (or threatened nuclear war) over things far smaller and aggressive than the things that they are expecting China and Russia to simply smile and swallow.
SuperLib
Biden is optically showing defiance? In what way?
bass4funk
Hmmm...heard nothing from Biden talking about Uighur religious genocide or atrocities or stealing our intellectual properties, fair trade, or any of the forbidden language that Biden is afraid to bring up, we all know why he won't, but he would get a lot more respect if the man were to put his ego and greed aside and confront China on these issues that matter the most, but he won't.
Of course, if someone rear-ends you, you don't allow the person to walk away, if someone purposely breaks your nose you are not the one that should apologize.
Which basically translates to, optically show defiance, but behind closed doors, appease and capitulate.
SuperLib
Trump just cared about trade and money, then when the virus hit it was all about deflecting to China. Biden is building a coalition to challenge the Chinese on all fronts, as a smart American President should.
lincolnman
Those quotes didn't come from Biden - as a Trump supporter, I'm surprised you don't recognize them...
And there's more...
"Terrific working with President Xi, a man who truly loves his country. Much more to come!”
"I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."
“Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days …
“I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/trump-china-coronavirus-188736
Almost as big a love-fest as with Kim...
bass4funk
Biden sure loves his Xi.
lincolnman
Or better to give them millions year in and out to make your clothing line that they then use to fund their military....buy a tie or shirt at Trumpstore.com and help fund a Chinese ICBM aimed at us...
Hmmm.....
"I believe President Putin"... "In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”
bass4funk
While Biden still will never wag his finger in Chinese face, the guy doesn’t want the dragon to bite off his hand, better to appease and capitulate than to anger them.
When it applies to liberals that follow the Marxist progressive line, sure.
lincolnman
Well, if Trump had been re-elected in Nov, both Russia and China would be saying; "Welcome comrade"....
Thank goodness we now have a President that believes in democracy and freedom, rather than a puppet autocrat and admirer of dictators...
Goodlucktoyou
They are pushing Russia and China closer, both nuclear armed.
Wolfpack
They should probably check with the American Democrats and the British Labour party rank-and-file. They would like nothing better than to fundamentally end their countries- as they currently exists.