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16 U.S. states sue Trump administration in showdown over border wall funds

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Trump's own words are going to come back and bite him in the arse on this one!

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Here we go, its only a matter of proving the national emergency a fraud, which Trump already did on TV when he announced it! LOL

"I didn't need to do it" = not emergency. Not to mention all the data and facts that prove a slowing trend in illegal immigration, the effectiveness of border security currently implemented, and the strength in "smart wall" technology that is drones, sensors, etc.

He obviously is desperate for the wall and getting it started sooner than later because its the only thing that keeps him afloat for 2020. Sinking faster everyday.

10 ( +15 / -5 )

How SCOTUS rules will be interesting. Conservatives generally uphold separation of powers and might well rule that Trump is violating the express will of congress. Then again, by the time the suits winds their way through the lower courts, we may have a new president who would simply nix Trump's power grab.

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It's a Lawyer delights. They are dancing to Lawyers' tune.

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Leaders in 16 states suing the Federal government for open borders. Good luck with that.

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"I didn't need to do it" = I could have just allowed the Dems to not provide the correct amount of funding to protect America and move on. He didnt.

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Leaders in 16 states suing the Federal government for open borders.

Yep, you have no grasp of the situation or why they are suing if you truly believe that. Especially when congress just handed Trump funding for border security in a bi-partisan bill.

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This just goes to show how hypocritical Trumpers and conservatives are - how many time have we seen comments here on JT from the so called conservatives who say they want justices who strictly interpret the Constitution.

OK, the Constitution clearly states in the Appropriations Clause that; “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law . . .” 

So all these conservative justices on the court, are they now going to throw out their conservative principles and vote to expand the powers of the Executive Branch?

This legal challenge will win in the Supreme Court, if it goes that far, with a majority of the conservative justices voting against Trump...to include Gorsuch and Kavanaugh...

Now that's sweet justice,

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I didn't need to do it" = I could have just allowed the Dems to not provide the correct amount of funding to protect America and move on. He didnt.

Actually, no. Trump said "I just wanted to do it faster". Or are you saying trump is a liar?

Clocks ticking, needs something to run with for his 2020 re-election campaign...you guys will follow him to his grave though, considering the funny "facts" you come up with.

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Yes, do it faster than the initial funding he was provided allows. Because its an emergency.

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We do. Just wonder why even things that are obviously constitutional still end up as 5-4 decisions with all liberals voting against it.

Its always liberals mocking conservatives when Roberts or Kavanaugh or someone votes with the liberals. When is the last time that one, and only one, liberal voted with the conservative majority?

so called conservatives who say they want justices who strictly interpret the Constitution.

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BlacklabelToday  12:38 pm JST

Yes, do it faster than the initial funding he was provided allows. Because its an emergency.

Then why did he not need to do it? An emergency is something that NEEDS to be done. And why did he not need to do it 2 years ago? Why is it suddenly an emergency? Caravans been coming up for a long time, its not new.

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Hoping the courts act swiftly and kick him where it hurts. I suggest we change Presidents Day to Constitution Day to honor something more worthy (at least for today).

Meanwhile, trump tweets that SNL is fake news.

Has anybody told trump that SNL is a comedy show?

10 ( +12 / -2 )

The only issue to be determined by the courts is the ability of the President to declare a national emergency. The courts doesnt get to second guess if it "really" an emergency or to try to determine motive or intent.

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Here we go, its only a matter of proving the national emergency a fraud, which Trump already did on TV when he announced it! LOL

So drugs like the bust of last week or the fact that Caravans, kids being smuggled in as well as illegals from Central America doesn’t bother you? Well, why would it, if it doesn’t bother the Democrats, why would it bother other liberals?

the effectiveness of border security currently implemented, and the strength in "smart wall" technology that is drones, sensors, etc.

So the drone will stop them? How, like shooting laser beams or they’ll cuff them? What’s a smart wall, like an invisible fence?

He obviously is desperate for the wall and getting it started sooner than later because its the only thing that keeps him afloat for 2020. Sinking faster everyday.

Well and the Democrats have...identity politics...identity politics, racism, identity politics, racism......and....still thinking...

But seriously, the President already foresaw this scenario playing out. They can sue, good luck. Lol

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Trump should just order army to take over the fed reserve and help himself to needed amount of money... i really dont see why the need to jump thru all these loops.

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Yes, do it faster than the initial funding he was provided allows. Because its an emergency.

It's not an emergency no matter how many times your repeat that it is:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/chris-wallace-fact-checks-stephen-153159941.html

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But seriously, the President already foresaw this scenario playing out. They can sue, good luck. Lol

If Trump has such great insight as to "foresee" this scenario playing out, why didn't he;

Foresee the need to fund the wall during his first two years, when he had both sides of Congress?

Foresee that after signaling he'd sign the Repub funding bill in Dec, Coulter and Rush would humiliate him, and he'd have to flip-flop?

Foresee that Nancy had a backbone, and wouldn't melt like he had, and wouldn't give him any wall money?

Foresee that his 35 day "Trump Shutdown" would endanger our security and hurt millions of families, and get him NOTHING?

Trump hasn't the intellectual capacity to foresee anything, except maybe his next liaison with Stormy...

And a quick question for the Trumpers here - if a caravan of Venezuelans came to the southern border asking for asylum, what should the US government do?

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Yep, you have no grasp of the situation or why they are suing if you truly believe that. Especially when congress just handed Trump funding for border security in a bi-partisan bill.

Problem with Trump is that border security and a wall are two different things!

I want a wall, and damn well better get a wall or I am going to take my toys and go home, because I didnt get my wall.........MOMMY!

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So drugs like the bust of last week or the fact that Caravans, kids being smuggled in as well as illegals from Central America doesn’t bother you? Well, why would it, if it doesn’t bother the Democrats, why would it bother other liberals?

A wall isnt going to stop it. They will find a way, in, around, and under it. Damn they have been for decades now!

The wall is just a psychological barrier that Trump wants to point to that he "kept" his campaign promise.

One will always be able to cherry pick or point out incidents to justify their points.

5 ( +7 / -2 )

All Trump's actions and words can be fully explained by the fact that he is really, really dumb. He has not noticed that words have meanings and actions have consequences. He genuinely is not aware how dumb he is, to the extent that he thinks people believe him whatever he says. People smarter than him, that is, which accounts for most of us. Of course we don't believe him.

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If Trump has such great insight as to "foresee" this scenario playing out, why didn't he;

Foresee the need to fund the wall during his first two years, when he had both sides of Congress?

Talk to the Republicans, I want to know the same thing. Maybe you could.

Foresee that after signaling he'd sign the Repub funding bill in Dec, Coulter and Rush would humiliate him, and he'd have to flip-flop?

No one except you cares about their opinions, really.

Foresee that Nancy had a backbone, and wouldn't melt like he had, and wouldn't give him any wall money?

Foresee that his 35 day "Trump Shutdown" would endanger our security and hurt millions of families, and get him NOTHING?

Nancy did break her back and gave him some money, the House speaker caved. Yeah, I’ll give one dollar, sure, also remember the Democrats didn’t get anything either. 2 months and still no legislative bills passed. Thanks Mitch.

Trump hasn't the intellectual capacity to foresee anything, except maybe his next liaison with Stormy...

Nor do the Democrats. Tax people 70% and take their cars and planes away. California might want to rethink that. Lol

And a quick question for the Trumpers here - if a caravan of Venezuelans came to the southern border asking for asylum, what should the US government do?

Have them wait at the end of the line just like everyone else.

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Trump should just order army to take over the fed reserve and help himself to needed amount of money...

oh you mean like what dictators do. maybe Trump can send the military door to door and demand about $75 from every US citizen at gunpoint, wall paid for. $25billion wall / 330million citizens

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Keep in mind these are not states suing the Trump administration, these are liberals within the states. And they're going to lose in the Supreme Court.

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If Trump has such great insight as to "foresee" this scenario playing out, why didn't he;

Foresee the need to fund the wall during his first two years, when he had both sides of Congress?

Talk to the Republicans, I want to know the same thing. Maybe you could.

Well, this is news - Trump is not a "Republican" - maybe that's why he didn't lift a finger to build his wall for 2 years...

Foresee that after signaling he'd sign the Repub funding bill in Dec, Coulter and Rush would humiliate him, and he'd have to flip-flop?

No one except you cares about their opinions, really. ROFL

Yet you still call Coulter a "conservative icon" - and profess your "love" of her - so you must care about her opinion...

Foresee that Nancy had a backbone, and wouldn't melt like he had, and wouldn't give him any wall money?

Foresee that his 35 day "Trump Shutdown" would endanger our security and hurt millions of families, and get him NOTHING?

Nancy did break her back and gave him some money, the House speaker caved. Yeah, I’ll give one dollar, sure, also remember the Democrats didn’t get anything either. 2 months and still no legislative bills passed. Thanks Mitch.

Really, show us all where the word "wall" appears in the funding bill - which to go to your second point was passed by the House...

Trump hasn't the intellectual capacity to foresee anything, except maybe his next liaison with Stormy...

Nor do the Democrats. Tax people 70% and take their cars and planes away. California might want to rethink that. Lol

Great pic today of Trump getting ready to head out to the golf course - national emergency....LOL...

And a quick question for the Trumpers here - if a caravan of Venezuelans came to the southern border asking for asylum, what should the US government do?

Have them wait at the end of the line just like everyone else.

Interesting - I see you disagree with your President...

In unusually harsh language, Trump said millions of people in Venezuela are suffering from hunger and death while military leaders in the oil-rich nation support a corrupt, repressive regime that has hidden away billions of dollars.

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Get rid of Trump already. The US and the world have suffered him and his buffoonery long enough. Convince Michelle Obama to run for president. The US needs someone with Intelligence and morals and the ability to heal America to lead it. Not a clown in the White house that it currently has.

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Keep in mind these are not states suing the Trump administration, these are liberals within the states. And they're going to lose in the Supreme Court.

Trumper logic...

I guess it was just far-right wing nuts, not the US, that pulled out of the Kyoto, Iran Deal, and INF Treaties...

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US politics just keep getting more and more interesting, regardless of which side you're on

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And they're going to lose in the Supreme Court.

They might. They might not. I actually think Roberts might disagree with Trump on this one, especially if Trump continues to poke fun at the American legal system calling the 9th circuit a joke and the supreme court a bunch of Obama judges. Can I ask where this logic came from anyways? It seems like you have no idea how the supreme court works, nor what the lawsuit is about. A random opinion with no weight.

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Interesting take Ann Coulter has on this issue....

“The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot,” Coulter said. “He’s a lazy incompetent. The problem is he listens to Jared [Kushner] and his staffers. He’s surrounded himself with people who have no experience in government. They’re either absolute morons, or their patsys, or they’re actively hostile to the wall, like Jared and Ivanka.”

“The goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years,”

I've never seen any liberal commentator scorch Trump this bad....and it's all coming from a "conservative icon..."

Ask Trumpers here who is right here - Donnie or Ann - that's when the aneurysm hits...

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There are several reasons why the states have a big chance to win this.

What actually constitutes an emergency? An argument is made that because he took too long to make this an emergency, especially after the amount of migrants have receded, that it is not viewed as an emergency.

While there is no legal basis for what actually constitutes as an emergency, the courts will go with what is perceived as an emergency by looking at actions in the past as what is considered an emergency. Response time being one of the more important aspects of an emergency.

An interesting thing is that during the trial of Chapo Guzman, the biggest drug dealer in world history, 95% of his drugs entered through legal checkpoints. Border crossings and planes. Only a relatively small amount of drugs entered through mules and underground tunnels. In other words the wall won’t fix anything since most illegal immigrants enter through tunnels or packed into vehicles and shipping materials crossing the border.

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Just a waste of time, these states don't have any rights in regards to what the President does with Federal money - Just another delaying game notice it was listed in California no where near Washington DC - the Lawyers are making a killing out of all these games - wondering how many Democrat donors are Lawyers.

-11 ( +2 / -13 )

Yup. Yup, you nailed it Aly. But ever since Trump won the election, I was prepared to see tantrum after tantrum, whining & moaning from the Left. Been eating a lot of popcorn.

Can’t wait to see the (D) primaries erupt. It’s gonna be real wild spectacle. Especially with then trying to sell the Green New Deal. Hilarious.

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Yup. Yup, you nailed it Aly. But ever since Trump won the election, I was prepared to see tantrum after tantrum, whining & moaning from the Left. Been eating a lot of popcorn.

What about the whining from the right? Seems to be non stop too, and half of it is complaining about Trump!! lol

You are the first person I've ever heard of that eats popcorn while watching fox news too.

Can’t wait to see the (D) primaries erupt. It’s gonna be real wild spectacle. Especially with then trying to sell the Green New Deal. Hilarious.

I think there is so much distraction going on in the media that Trump's supporters would be left completely fazed upon losing the 2020 elections. If you're constantly battling for a wall, you can't run an election campaign very well.

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Alex EinzToday 01:13 pm JST

Trump should just order army to take over the fed reserve

And there we have it.  Trumponians calling for a dictatorship.  SAD!

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@Andrew Crisp

That you think States have no rights when it comes to government spending, means that you have never taken a law or politics class. The way the government was set up was that it is supposed to be a larger representative of the people and the states.

There is such a thing called “The Convention of States.”

This ultimately allows a majority of 39 states or more the invoke powers of each branch of the government. This could be used for amending bills, vetoing bills, or other measures. This has never been used. Because states typically leave things up to the judicial system which is what they are doing now. All moves the President makes can potentially be nullified in federal court and anyone can take the federal government to federal court. That includes individual states. So they are doing actions within their rights to challenge the constitutionality of Trumps actions also whether or not his “emergency,” can be viewed as an emergency.

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@Andrew Crisp

Ha ha! Thanks - you made my afternoon. Congress, not the executive branch, is charged with allocating federal funds, and congress is composed of representatives from the states. These monies are not put in a pot anyone can dip into arbitrarily; they are dedicated to specific purposes. So when Trump says he'll just repurpose money, he's stealing it from the location it was originally dedicated to.

A question regarding suing the government has long been "standing" - have you been directly harmed. This is the first stage plaintiffs must pass through. If any of these states can show that they have been harmed by potentially illegal actions, the suits will advance.

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Actually it is. Because whoever is president says so. Guess who is president? The guy who just said it is. You or anyone else saying it’s not means nothing.

It's not an emergency no matter how many times your repeat that it is:

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Alex EinzToday  01:13 pm JST

Trump should just order army to take over the fed reserve and help himself to needed amount of money... i really dont see why the need to jump thru all these loops.

The US doesn't do things the same way they're done back in your home country. Not yet at least.

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Liberals also conveniently forget there are 50 states, not just NY and CA. If 16 states sued that means 34 didn’t. Plus Hawaii doesn’t count for this, sorry.

-7 ( +4 / -11 )

Trumper logic...

Supreme Court Justice.

I guess it was just far-right wing nuts, not the US, that pulled out of the Kyoto, Iran Deal, and INF Treaties...

And justifiably so.

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Liberals also conveniently forget there are 50 states, not just NY and CA. If 16 states sued that means 34 didn’t. Plus Hawaii doesn’t count for this, sorry

So you basically have no idea how your court system works. It's not a majority system, it's a legal system

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How many of those states are even within a 2 hour plane ride of the border? Pure Trump #resistance.

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“The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot,”

We feel the same about the entire Democrat party, Hannity said that, I tend to agree.

“The goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years,”

No, it’s to do something the Dems don’t care about, that’s the border, but they don’t care about Blacks or Hispanics or the homeless or sanctuary cities...

I've never seen any liberal commentator scorch Trump this bad....and it's all coming from a "conservative icon..."

Ok and?

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California shares a 140 mile border with Mexico, 105 miles have a wall, fence or barrier, so I guess 35 miles of California are not immoral.

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Of the 16 only California has a border with Mexico.

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“The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot,”

We feel the same about the entire Democrat party, Hannity said that, I tend to agree.

Ann feels that way about your President. Do you agree with Ann?

“The goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years,”

No, it’s to do something the Dems don’t care about, that’s the border, but they don’t care about Blacks or Hispanics or the homeless or sanctuary cities...

Nothing about Dems here - this is conservative icon Coulter criticizing (burning) conservative President Trump...and the, in her words, stupid members of his base...ouch....

I've never seen any liberal commentator scorch Trump this bad....and it's all coming from a "conservative icon..."

Ok and?

You tell me, she's your conservative icon...which means she speaks for a broad spectrum of conservatives...who buys all her books? Do they agree with her that the President is an idiot?

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How much of an emergency if Trump has time to go play golf anyway ?

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How do you turn this into an argument over who shares the border with Mexico when its the tax dollars of every American that will ultimately pay for it if it gets built (because Mexico is not going to)? The states that border with Mexico are California, Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. So should they be the only people to decide if its built? And if so, should they be asked to pay for it too? Because in your arguments, the "crisis" only affects them and other states shouldn't get involved. In that case, maybe the wall should be built with money raised by the state, rather than be federally funded. Is that what you mean? Worst argument ever, worst president ever.

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How do you turn this into an argument over who shares the border

Trump backers have consistently shown a lack of understanding of the federal system. It's interesting that they whinge about things that come from 'the coastal states', as if those aren't part of the nation.

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Liberals also conveniently forget there are 50 states, not just NY and CA. If 16 states sued that means 34 didn’t. Plus Hawaii doesn’t count for this, sorry.

Black, you clearly do not understand the reason why these states are suing. Their congressional representatives had secured funding. Trump confiscated the funding. Proximity to the border is not an issue.

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Convince Michelle Obama to run for president. The US needs someone with Intelligence and morals and the ability to heal America to lead it.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha, oh, Peter, that was a good one! Yes, bring on Michelle My Belle! The one who had the audacity to say "Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice,” thus dissing millions of women as if they can't think for themselves.

Every week 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone, 90% of which floods across from our southern border, and this is not an emergency? Pffft!

-11 ( +0 / -11 )

“Liberals also conveniently forget there are 50 states, not just NY and CA”

Everyone should remember CA & Colorado are leading the charge. The two pot smoking-legal states. It figures.

“Plus Hawaii doesn’t count for this, sorry.”

Agree. HA tried to weigh in on Muslim travel ban. But they got girl-slapped by Supreme Court.

-8 ( +1 / -9 )

The wall needs to be built to help prevent human trafficking.

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Don the Moron: 0 real emergencies

The thousands of Americans who have lost loved ones due to illegal immigrants and drugs coming across the border would say, yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.

Just because you people are too stupid to analyze it doesn’t mean we are too.

The condescension is strong here.

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Oh so Russia is NOT a real emergency? Oops.

Sept 12, 2018: The National Emergency With Respect to Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election attempted to prevent any meddling with the 2018 midterm elections amid the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

-6 ( +2 / -8 )

Ann feels that way about your President. Do you agree with Ann?

Ann feels worse about Democrats, go check her quotes, too funny.

Nothing about Dems here -

No, it’s everything about them. So do you approve of their lies especially now on this upcoming campaign trail? They’ll all going to get crushed by the President.

You tell me, she's your conservative icon...which means she speaks for a broad spectrum of conservatives...who buys all her books?

Exactly, she’s a speaker. More importantly, it’s what she says about Democrats which really crack me up.

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Black, you clearly do not understand the reason why these states are suing. Their congressional representatives had secured funding. Trump confiscated the funding. Proximity to the border is not an issue.

And if the SC rules in Trump’s favor what then? Well, that’ll be it, the Dems have to take it and I mean in the worst way possible.

-4 ( +2 / -6 )

Excellent news.

Time people stood up to this fake emergency, by any and all means possible.

Hopefully, this means the end of the sickly dictator's criminal behaviour and attempts to destroy the USA.

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Ann feels that way about your President. Do you agree with Ann?

Ann feels worse about Democrats, go check her quotes, too funny.

Dodge. She calls Trump an idiot, lazy, incompetent, and his supporters stupid - do you agree?

Nothing about Dems here -

No, it’s everything about them. So do you approve of their lies especially now on this upcoming campaign trail? They’ll all going to get crushed by the President.

Conservative icon versus conservative President - which side are you on?

You tell me, she's your conservative icon...which means she speaks for a broad spectrum of conservatives...who buys all her books?

Exactly, she’s a speaker. More importantly, it’s what she says about Democrats which really crack me up.

You called her an icon, not a speaker, which is it? She also called you stupid - does that crack you up? What about all the other conservatives that follow her - do they agree with her that Trump is an idiot?

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She calls Trump an idiot, lazy, incompetent, and his supporters stupid - do you agree

She said this about Democrats- "There are a lot of bad republicans; there are NO good democrats." Do you agree?

Now liberals hate her, but why?

"We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States."

Do you think she’s right?

Wonder how Liberals will react when the SC votes in his favor, go against them and trying to block the construction workers? Lol

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

Previous national emergencies declared by Obama, Bush, and Clinton were to impose trading restrictions on countries or to sanction countries.

Trumps national emergency is to have tax payers pay for an ineffective wall that most people don’t want. Especially when a huge campaign promise was to build a wall that Mexico will pay for. Now he wants to force U.S. tax payers to pay for it.

Those are completely different national emergencies.

4 ( +5 / -1 )

My suggestion, have the Justice Department file suit against California requesting the $3.5 billion they were given by the Obama Administration for their high speed rail from LA to San Francisco that was recently cancelled. Now that is a chase that will stand up in court.

Hey Moderator, Why are my comments being censored???

0 ( +6 / -6 )

She calls Trump an idiot, lazy, incompetent, and his supporters stupid - do you agree

She said this about Democrats- "There are a lot of bad republicans; there are NO good democrats." Do you agree?

Dodge #3 - why can't you answer the question - do you agree with Coulter when she says Trump is an idiot, lazy, incompetent, and his supporters stupid?

Now liberals hate her, but why?

????? As you have stated previously, she's a conservative icon - what liberals think of her isn't relevant - they don't buy her books...conservatives do - and quite a few it seems...do all her fans believe her and agree that Trump is an idiot?

"We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States."

Do you think she’s right?

As I've said before, liberals don't have anything to do with this issue - that's just a dodge - this is a conservative icon saying your conservative President is an idiot, lazy, incompetent, and his supporters, which I assume you are, are stupid - what do you think of that insult from your icon?

Wonder how Liberals will react when the SC votes in his favor, go against them and trying to block the construction workers? Lol

More word soup...

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Just checked. Still no wall. Moving on.

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