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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Disgraced money manager Jeffrey Epstein found dead in jail cell in apparent suicide
By Sarah N Lynch and Karen Freifeld NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
60 Comments
ArtistAtLarge
This was no suicide. He had blackmail on too many powrful people.
sensei258
He was a pedophile who thought he could get away with it because he was rich. I agree it's a possibility he was silenced.
CrazyJoe
The fix was in.
The revelations that would of come forth from the Epstein trial would make WikiLeaks, the leaked Panama papers and Watergate seem like grade school playground gossip.
The powers that be that got him the sweetheart deal a decade ago, are the same ones that have "neutralized" him. He would of brought down heads of states, titans of industry, esteemed academics, international royalty, powerful politicians and more.
A bunch of vile powerful men are collectively breathing sighs of relief.....
sensei258
He may have been coerced into killing himself, like that guy Frank in The Godfather movie.
Serrano
It was not immediately clear why Epstein was taken off suicide watch.
Did anybody NOT see this coming?
M3M3M3
Epstein was the first person for many decades who had the potential to bring down some of the most powerful and well connected people in society (or at least that's what many believed). For this reason it was absolutely essential that the authorities kept him alive at all costs, if only to avoid the inevitable conspiracy theories that would arise if he died in custody. Whatever actually happened to Epstein last night, I think it's hard to overstate the long-term damage this may have done to public trust and America's credibility. As of yesterday, it's much harder to claim that there's a clear distinction between America and regimes where those who threaten the ruling elites end up dying in custody under suspicious circumstances.
bass4funk
A bit over dramatic, just a tad, relax. Anyway, there’s no doubt Epstein knew a lot, hung out with some of the most powerful people on the planet and from dignitaries, to royals to politicians and celebs, one thing is for sure, he knew everything and that made a lot of people nervous because he had the ability to bring some of these powerful people down.
There are so many possibilities as to what could have happened, but I want to see this investigation through because on the surface it does look very suspicious.
FizzBit
One thing for sure, the odds for Dem’s to win in 2020 are more favorable now that Epstein has been suicided.
Viktor Cernatinskij
I totally suspect that he was killed by the powerfull ones....
kurisupisu
I never believed in conspiracy theories until this case...
coskuri
I don't think he needed help to kill himself. It seems the guy's whole life was based on lies, so he is able to make his suicide look like an apparent murder... That surely put authorities in a bad situation.
There is no reason, they should keep panicking... What Epstein would have said or not doesn't matter. Now the FBI has gathered evidence by other ways. Of course, the names of present or ex-presidents or foreign royals have been erased from the file, they would have no matter what. The other involved big wigs can only hope a new Acosta to "kill" the case.
bass4funk
I agree.
Yup, pretty much sums it up and says it all.
kurisupisu
Recently,having been found unconscious with neck bruising would suggest that he was prone to danger-the prison authorities dropped the ball on this one or did they?
Seth M
remember when America at least tried to have some rules and decency?
u_s__reamer
Dead men tell no tales and the documentation Epstein left behind will be duly "doctored". I have worked in prisons in two countries and know from the inside dope how the authorities are able to selectively encourage and promote "suicides" for certain undesirable inmates who "know too much".
The Avenger
This is highly suspicious...the high profile wealthy people involved makes me wonder if their was a big payoff to take care of the problem, not to mention eliminating Epstein's potential life sentence. This ends the criminal case that would have exposed the players. Lisa Bloom's civil case is all that remains, but enough money can kick anything under the rug. I'm not hopeful that the FBI's investigation into a potential conspiracy finds anything given the Trump administration's contempt for the agency.
I don't know if I have the patience to care about yet another years long investigation no matter how serious, and that's exactly what the perpetrators, if any are counting on. Democracy can't survive an indecent, uncivil society.
Jimizo
The conspiracy theorists are loving this.
So, tell us what really happened.
bass4funk
Yes, but in all honesty, look at what Epstein did, since I was a teenager his acts with little girls was infamously legendary and he hung out and many were on his private Island with many of these alleged underage girls and what happened and with whom and to what extent remains to be deeply shrouded in mystery, some of the most powerful people on the planet, Epstein knew a lot, knew where the bodies were buried, could have brought done a lot of people and now there is a report coming out that his CCTV malfunctioned right when he hung himself. Coincidence? Anything is possible....I guess.
He was on suicide watch, you had a guard go by his cell every 10 min. Now he hung himself with some bedsheets supposedly that’s how they found him. So a few weeks ago he was injured in his cell and had bruise marks on his neck, so knowing this, they give this guy bedsheets? The CCTV malfunctions? He shouldn’t have had access to anything that he could possibly use to hurt or kill himself. Yes, it takes on average 3 min to kill yourself, it’s possible, but also Epstein had a chair in his cell...hello! This just stinks to high heaven, the man was scum, no love loss, but I really want to know everyone that Epstein implicated regardless of their fame or notoriety or political or royal position.
Lizz
He wasn't on suicide watch at the time but even so I doubt very much there were anything like metal bars or even a light fixture on the ceiling that sheets (not heavy enough, btw) could have been affixed to create an instrument of death.
bass4funk
Who said he wasn’t on suicide watch?
Strangerland
Heh, this one's going to send the conspiracy theorists into a frenzy. I say that without having read the comments. I know this because it even looks suspicious to me! And with his friendship with Trump...
That said, there is also the Occam's Razor side of it - ie the guy probably committed suicide.
lincolnman
Well, I hope we can still find out about all those Mar-A-Lago parties and the 17 year old female that was recruited by Epstein when working for Donnie....
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221
Someone sure had a motive to ensure Epstein didn't talk....
Serrano
the guy probably committed suicide.
Yeah, he probably didn't.
Well, I hope we can still find out about all those Mar-A-Lago parties and the 17 year old female that was recruited by Epstein when working for Donnie.... Someone sure had a motive to ensure Epstein didn't talk....
It wasn't Trump. We all know who did though. Trying connecting the dots.
Lizz
Who said he wasn’t on suicide watch?
The Federal Bureau of Prisons and DOJ. There still may have been a camera in his room, though.
Jimizo
What emerges when you connect the dots?
lincolnman
Remind anyone of the line in Casablanca - "I'm shocked, shocked to learn there is gambling going on here..."
Meanwhile, our Chief Conspirator in the White House is doing his usual thing...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-spreads-jeffrey-epstein-conspiracy-theory-about-clintons-2019-8
Trump is such a disgusting human being...
Jimizo
No surprise to see Trump promulgating yet another conspiracy theory.
Utter trash. As one writer put it, Trump is what a YouTube comments section would look like in the flesh.
bass4funk
And?
What should he do?
Some May think so, the entire Washington establishment on the other hand is disgusting.
Luddite
He faced life in solitary if convicted, so it is quite likely he took his own life. The incompetence of the prison administration, who took him off suicide watch, should be investigated.
bass4funk
Definitely incompetent. The US can’t claim countries like Mexico and their prison guards are incompetent by not watching people like El Chapo sneaking out of his cell through his shower and claim they don’t know what they’re doing. Talk about egg on their faces.
Raw Beer
They continue calling him a financier and money manager; that is not how he got rich.
Anyway, I hope he really is dead and that they did not sneak him out alive.
Why is Ghislaine Maxwell still free, she is just as guilty.
And let's not forget that Epstein was previously released because he was part of intelligence. Which intelligence? I hope they will elaborate on that...
Serrano
"apparent suicide"
Yeah, people with high political connections do that all the time, they shoot themselves in the back of the head, they hang themselves in their prison cell, they try to go swimming in an alligator infested swimming pool, it happens constantly. Come on, don't take me for a fool, at least give me credit for having self-awareness.
lincolnman
Sorry you didn't get it - watch the movie...
Gee, I don't know, maybe stop tweeting debunked, alt-right conspiracy theories?
And?
Serrano
I did not have executorial relations with that prisoner, Mr Epstein.
Tangerine2000
Seeing as Epstein was ex-Mossad, it's not impossible that this was a professional job carried out by the state. There is also the possibility that he was 'required' to make himself disappear.
TheLongTermer
but the court documents are now unsealed. He didnt want to face jail, thats all. Its not a conspiracy.
WilliB
Errr.... I am big on Occam Razor, but in this case, that is NOT what the razor tells me.
Btw, where does the claim come from that Epstein was Mossad? The only search results I can find that say something like that are the most wild-eyed deluded conspiray sites.
Jimizo
The President of the US shouldn’t be dealing in baseless conspiracy trash. He had his fingers burned with birtherism and he still hasn’t grown up.
The conspiracy crowd have their place but it’s not in serious conversations and certainly not in the White House.
Douglas Whitman
The guy didn't do anything that most guys in his position of power wouldn't do (or hasn't done). Welcome to the real world.
Serrano
Are the prison guards who were on duty at the time of Epstein's death still OK?
Raw Beer
The are OK now, probably a little richer. But I do expect them to have some "accidents" in the near future.
The reason for his previous release was his connections with intelligence. Epstein was previously working with Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, who was Mossad-connected and also had a mysterious death. I suspect Ghislaine took over her dad's role as Epstein's Mossad handler.
Why is Ghislaine Maxwell still free?
TheLongTermer
what will be interesting is whos name is on those documents. was Epstien an Israeli?
stormcrow
It is strange that the Feds had such a rare and unique bird of a criminal who had attempted suicide. Epstein was taken off suicide watch and committed suicide. Something's amiss. They should have had a rare bird like this in a glass cage under constant surveillance.
Dead men tell no tales.
No witness, no crime.
etc.
Tangerine2000
@Raw Beer
Your observation about per capita percentages from the other day was spot on. I was attempting to sarcastically highlight the true figures, but it seems a few others didn't think about the statistics too deeply.
Blacklabel
So now the criminal investigation shifts to the actual names on the documents, right?
Or does this whole thing just go away?
bass4funk
Whatever, no one, but liberals care about petty things like that, but once again, when will liberals grow up and stop running to the cameras and spread false disinformation and talk about the culprits that are at play and from the list as far as politicians go, there are a lot of Democrats that Epstein was associated with.
Tell that to CNN and msnbc please.
Andrew Crisp
This is gonna be one ripper of an investigation, Epstein attempted suicide only 3 weeks ago so what happened to the so-called suicide watch, camera's everywhere ……. one thing for sure Dead men tell no tales
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VpaUGdy7U
Blacklabel
The cameras will be found to have “malfunctioned”, no?
bass4funk
You don’t know that.
I’m sure they will have a memorial for Epstein.
Jimizo
It’s appalling that Trump is putting conspiracy trash out there.
There seems like there is nothing he can do which leads his supporters to criticise him. This is very disturbing.
Toasted Heretic
That's a depressing thought. Do other powerful rich folks agree?
Toasted Heretic
What Democrats in particular?
Where have they said it?
What CTs have they spread?