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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.'Apologize to America,' Trump tells Democratic congresswomen
By Doina Chiacu WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
88 Comments
Chip Star
Donny should be apologizing to America for his incessant lying and bumbling incompetence.
PTownsend
Cult of personality. Plain and simple. Too many Trump supporters drinking his kool aid which is intended to poison the nation. Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, David Duke and Putin are smiling.
Chip Star
Let's take a look at some of the lies Donny has told and Trumpophiles have echoed:
TRUMP quotes Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., as saying: "You don't say 'America' with this intensity. You say 'al-Qaida,' it makes you proud. Al-Qaida makes you proud. You don't speak that way about America." — North Carolina rally on Wednesday.
TRUMP: "I hear the way she talks about al-Qaida. Al-Qaida has killed many Americans. She said, 'You can hold your chest out, you can — when I think of America — uhh — when I think of al-Qaida, I can hold my chest out.'" — remarks Monday at a manufacturing event at the White House.
THE FACTS: This is a wholly distorted account of what the Omar said. She did not voice pride in the terrorist group.
TRUMP, on Ocasio-Cortez: "Cortez said that illegal immigrants are more American than any person who seeks to keep them out ever will be. Can you believe that? That's what she is saying." — North Carolina rally.
THE FACTS: True, except that people who come to the border and ask for refugee status can't be described as "illegal immigrants." They commit no crime by applying for that status. Ocasio-Cortez, speaking of women and children who show up seeking refuge or opportunity, said: "They're acting more American than any person who seeks to keep them out ever will be." This was from an MSNBC interview in January.
Strangerland
I mean I get it. Of course, these women are American, but they're not "as" American, you know. I mean, like some people are American, and some people are "American". Like, they hold American passports, but they're not as American as other Americans. You know. I mean, it's hard to pin down exactly what it is that makes these women less American, but just look at them, you can tell.
People need to understand that if America is going to be made great again, it requires identifying which Americans are lesser Americans, and which ones are real Americans. Only real Americans can make America great again. These lesser Americans need to learn to suck it up, and let America be made great.
Strangerland
...again.
PTownsend
I don't recall anything in the Constitution saying I must love my country, especially if Trump means I must love the military and the ruling class directing it. I have read in dystopian novels where the .01% control totalitarian states that people must love their state. I've also read in China under Mao, the Soviet Union under Stalin and Germany under Hitler the state had forces watching their populations looking for those who might not 'love' the state and its cult leader.
Yubaru
You are the one who should be apologizing to the US and the WORLD for creating so much BS in your short term in office!
You are an embarrassment to America.
SuperLib
I don't think Trump will be satisfied until one of these women is injured.
JJ Jetplane
I understand he is the “figure head” of America, but he does not represent America. Furthermore, according to the election, he doesn’t represent the popular vote either.
Also, throughout history, Americans have always challenged presidents and their policies so as far as I’m concerned they are doing some of the most American things possible.
@strangerland
Who are considered lesser and real Americans?
Also, the Congresswomen have not done anything un-American and were elected by Americans. One of them represents Massachusetts and Boston is popularly believed to be one of the most Patriotic places in America. So are you saying real Americans can’t recognize real Americans and you are somehow qualified to do this?
SuperLib
You're on TV saying Trump didn't support the chant, which everyone knows is a lie. Wouldn't it be logical to look down on people who do that?
Strangerland
I don't know, there's just something when you look at them. You can clearly tell that some are Americans, and some are "Americans".
Chip Star
Stranger is clearly being sarcastic and taking the piss out of Trumpophiles.
Strangerland
Exactly. Look at these women and you can clearly see the difference between Americans and "Americans".
CrazyJoe
It's shocking to see how many racists live among us.
And shocking how brazen they are.
Amir Marzouk
@Strangerland
Since many people are wrong about what an American is and you are the recognized expert, please tell me what an American is?
Do you mean back to where groups of European colonizers stole the country and could only truly produce during times of war or during the .com era? Where the country was heavily divided and civil rights civil war was rampant or where women were fighting for equality? Is that the “Great again” American you were referring to?
Strangerland
You know, it's like some people are like, real Americans, right? They are trying to Make America Great Again. But they have to deal with the "Americans", who really just need to learn to let America be Made Great Again.
There's just something about "Americans", you know what I mean. I can't put my finger on it, but like when you see them, you kind of understand they're not Americans, they're "Americans".
Chip Star
So, what is the difference? How are you differentiating between two American citizens as to which one is truly American?
Strangerland
Right! I look at them, and I can tell right away that they are "American" and not American. Why can't they just stop stopping America from being Made Great Again? Lesser Americans need to learn their place.
I'm offended that you would even consider the idea that race has anything to play with it. I have not stated such a thing. The idea that you would even accuse me of being racist is an offense to dignity and all that is right in this world.
I think we need to stick to talking about Americans and "Americans", and leave the race out of it. Because looking at those women, they are multiple races, so it's clearly not a race issue.
PTownsend
The above another example of nation-uber-alles, the alt right's mantra. They say people must think the way the leader and his followers do or apologize. Or leave the country. They say people must think like Trump and his followers who say yes, of course most of the 911 terrorists were Saudi, but they're our friends because they buy our weapons to slaughter 'others' while bolstering our economy and its military-industrial complex. Among these same people, those who want Representative Ilhan to apologize, are those claiming 911 was done by Americans.
PTownsend
In your most basic statistics class you learned that with in any population of any size outliers and anomalies will occur. And that's another reason alt rightists' backing Trump should stop making choices binary. An example is 'love it or leave it', or Bush's 'You're for us or you're for the terrorists'. Gray exists.
Strangerland
This is clearly not about race. Have you looked at these women, they are multiple races!
I'm offended that you would even suggest it's about race. We all know it's about being American, and being "American".
Enough with your disgusting accusations of racism. There is no greater offense then accusations of racism. Anyone who thinks there is, deserves to be a slave.
Moderator
Readers, please cut out the acrimony.
Chip Star
No, that's not what racists do. Racists do what Donny did in the 70s in refusing to rent to black people, they apply the worst traits of a small number of poc to all other members of that class of poc.
What are these allegedly anti-American comments? This should be fun.
Strangerland
I agree! How dare they not let Trump Make America Great Again! How dare they not apologize for their treason in disagreeing with Dear Leader? Do they not realize that only Americans are allowed to disagree with the president, which is why Trump was allowed to criticize Obama, but that "Americans" need to learn their place and shut up, because "Americans" cannot criticize the president's actions.
Damned "Americans".
PTownsend
Another example of tyranny of the majority thinking. (In this case the 'majority' is 'demographic'; in reality they're a minority of the population.) The majority think what's good for them must be good for the 'others'. All the majority need to do is share crumbs and continue to trickle down on those under them. TOE
Strangerland
If I may propose a solution to this whole problem, it's that everyone clearly recognizes which Americans are American, and which are "American", and the "Americans" just need to shut the hell up with their treasonous talk.
Problem solved.
TheRat
Never before have we had such a buffoon as a “president” and one that is thin-skinned and lashes out with junior-high school insults, lies and taunts. And no matter how “low” he gets he plumbs new lows all of which make his mouth-breathing cave-men followers all the happier. Indeed, our conservative posters will (a) deflect these comments, ‘ah it is just a bunch of nothing,’ (b) dig down and repeat the lies and reinforce them, (c) do the both-siderism, ginning up fabricated comments from democrats. I wonder which one they will resort to as they will brook NO criticism of their dear leader. They themselves are incapable of criticizing him (or should I say IT, as him confers personhood, and that might confer humanity which he has NONE.
David Varnes
The Squad has nothing to apologize for.
Donnie has a list of things longer than his tie to apologize for, and that's just from this year.
Vernon Watts
Most if not all of the "squad" will be gone in 2 to 4 years by redistricting, voter fatigue and/or more viable candidates running in their districts, so why are you wasting your breath on them now...
Chip Star
So, Donny can distract everyone from the pressing issues of government by engaging in childish twitter feuds, but four minority women lawmakers can't call out his repugnance? Got it.
And, how about those anti-American statements you allege they made?
BlackFlagCitizen
If criticizing the state of the country is unpatriotic as Trump claims, how does he explain away his campaign motto of "Make America Great Again" because isn't that phrase indicating that he was displeased at some point about the state of the US? How unpatriotic of him and his followers. Maybe they should pack up and leave
Chip Star
And your evidence is what? You can't even point to the anti-American comments you alleged they made.
Why would we trash Karl Benz's invention because of Ford's racism?
Strangerland
Yeah!
And you people keep asking which comments these women made that were un-American, and the simple answer, which is why we don't feel the need to supply any examples, is 'everything'.
Blacklabel
You confuse an “American citizen who is speaking” with “saying something American”.
Chip Star
You don't think this sounds like Donny?
Moderator
Back on topic please.
Toasted Heretic
Only racists would make excuses for him at this stage.
He is putting people's lives in jeopardy.
lincolnman
Trump 2012: "Trump called Clinton “terrific” again in an interview with Fox News, saying she performed well as Secretary of State. “Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman,” he told Greta Van Susteren. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.
Lindsey Graham 2015: "Donald Trump is a race-baiting, xenophobic bigot".
Ted Cruz 2016: Trump is a "narcissist" and "serial philanderer" and "morality doesn't exist" for him. Maybe it is the case that Donald, there have been multiple media reports about Donald's business dealings with the mob, with the mafia. Maybe his taxes show those business dealings are a lot more extensive than has been reported".
Sure, those Repubs really stand firm in their beliefs...
rlperez@hotmail.com.au
Trump making America Great; on fiasco after another. Is the White House actually getting anything done?
plasticmonkey
All members of the squad said so?
Quotes, please.
David Varnes
Except she didn't:
https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/talktojazeera/2019/07/ilhan-omar-911-comments-trump-saudi-relations-190716160539559.html
In fact, Trump didn't even quote her full sentence:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/trump-slammed-9-11-footage-ilhan-omar-190414120418141.html
And of course, trying to claim that Omar is loyal to "Muslims" over 'America' is facetious as well, considering this quote from the first interview:
You see... that's how you actually quote someone. Not by saying "well there was that one time they said this thing," but by actually posting their complete words.
plasticmonkey
I have. They have never said anything about Soviet style politics or using history as a Trojan horse. Maybe you’re confusing them with Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh.
David Varnes
I have. If there's any benefit of the racist blathering of Donnie Trump, it's that I've gone and checked the actual speeches, the actual unedited transcripts. I've read the actual words, listened to them.
What I haven't done is depend on right wing 'media' that butchers, misquotes, or just makes up lies out of whole cloth.
None of The Squad have said anything 'Anti-American' or anything about 'hating America.'
Mocheake
The next election is going to be a watershed event and will tell the world just what kind of country America really has become.
Jimizo
I make the assertion that these women want to usher in Soviet-stlyle politics ( definition needed ), but I can’t offer any quotes, but they do, and you should look for these quotes.
Alrighty.
lincolnman
Repubs and Trumpers here obsess over Omar and the squad, and say they're racist and Un-American...and try to make them the face of the Dem Party.
Fine, in that case let's make these folks the face of the Repub Party;
Trump: Well, when it comes to racism, there's not much more to say...except some Nazi's and White Nationalists are "very fine people"...
Rep Steve King: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”
Rep Gov Ron DeSantis: Said voters shouldn’t “monkey this up” by choosing his African-American opponent.
There's your face of the Repub Party - just throw in Roy Moore and you have a real cabal of deplorables...
SuperLib
So which Trump fans are willing to bend over and grab their ankles and tell us Trump disapproved of the chant?
Trick question. The answer is 'All of them."
Sneezy
"How are you both?"
theeastisred
Adenoids:
No problem because they don't exist.
By the way, congratulations in scoring one positive vote on one comment above! Fat finger?
Concerned Citizen
There four women and others like them freely use thier 'race', color, gender and notions of victimhood coupled with accusations of 'white, male supremacy', etc, to get a leg up.
Thier message to the masses: 'We're morally good. We're 'woke' We're better than you, you're all racists, white supremacists, bigots, etc. Move over and give us power over you!'
President Trump calls thier bluff and tells them to apologize the nation. Hilarious.
While I hate how farcical this has become, I appreciate how the president is standing up for the little guys against these bullies.
Silvafan
@Concerned Citizen
LOL! The only little guy is Dump. He wants "the Squad" and the Media to apologize to him for shining a light on his actions and giving him "bad press".
Concerned Citizen real quote:
"This privileged white man and others like them freely use their 'race', color, gender and notions of victimhood coupled with accusations of reverse racism, Anti-Semitism, "America First" and "religious freedom" to get a leg up.
Their message to the masses: 'We're morally good. We were here first, We're better than you, you are trying to take my guns, you're all criminals, socialists, you are ruining this country for the "white man", etc. Move over and give us our country back!'
"The Squad" and the Media calls his bluff and tells him to apologize the nation. Truly Hilarious!"
TheLongTermer
I think Trump shoots himself in the foot all the time, by things he says and tweets, and I cant figure out why but having watched AOC and Omar talk, Im convinced they are inexperienced, too young, and radical to be in Congress. Telling them to go back to where they came from is a bit idiotic IMO but they are definitely dangerous and do not represent mainstream US generational values. They are diversity at its worst.
Wolfpack
The Left keeps pushing the racism trope about Republicans but cannot see the racism that infests their party from top to bottom. David Duke is a big supporter of Omar.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/7/david-duke-praises-rep-ilhan-omar/
Given the Lefts frequent reliance on guilt by association Dukes full support of Omar should be slam dunk proof of the party of the Klans continued and unabashed bigotry and hatred.
Serrano
"So when you disagree with the president, suddenly you're a bad person
Nooooo, but when you accuse someone of being a racist because they suggest you leave the country if you don't like it, you're wrong.
Trump has done way more for Americans regardless of color or ethnicity than any of these lunatic Squad members.
Ben Carson points to Trump's policies as proof he is not a racist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uDXiCGVLoc
Silvafan
@WolfPack
With your same logic, most nationalist, racists, and white supremacist groups support Dump and the Republicon party.
What does that say about the GOP?
Silvafan
@Serrano
The Jewish League came in defense of "the Squad".
ADL:
ADL Condemns President Trump's Racist Tweets and His Use of Israel and Jews as a Shield
https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-condemns-president-trumps-racist-tweets-and-his-use-of-israel-and-jews-as-a
Ha! Nice try!
dabestsushi
So tired of trump and his ridiculousness. He's such a hypocrite. He literally ran his presidential campaign on how bad America is. And now he's saying leave if you don't like it. It's just embarrassing to watch. It's even more embarrassing to see the people that support this nonsense. I miss real politics like you know Democrats Republicans liberals Independence whoever you are, talking about issues. Not this daytime TV drama that is American politics now.
zurcronium
This is what makes sense within the bubble of the right wing media echo chamber. The women who were attacked and told to leave their home country are the bullies. And the Trump followers are the victims. It is always such a neat mental trick, weak one, where the racists become the victims. The majority of white voters for Trump believe they are victims of systemic injustice. Classic projection. Fox and Trump use this to their advantage of course. It is all so blatantly stupid.
Trump is a racist. The Obama birther campaign was one big racist campaign. A total and complete lie based on racism. Basically it maintained that no black person could be President. And millions of republicans thought the same. Pure racism. But it started before that, Trumps Dad supported the KKK so Donny learned from
his Dad about how to think about minorities. Once Trump became President he admitted Obama was an American. He used racism to become President and is exploiting it again in his 2020 campaign.
dabestsushi
Soon that tradition will be deemed racist as well.
Your entire is why America used to have separation of church and state.
Haaa Nemui
Textbooks say otherwise.
PTownsend
Cherry pick and distort much? Duke's supporting her view on Israel; nowhere in the link you sent does it say she's a 'big supporter' of the Representative..
jeancolmar
It is Trump who should apologize to America after what he has done its people, its environment and its reputation. He should grovel.
bass4funk
Both sides are digging in their heels and neither side will budge and the squad thinks using the race card will give them an edge or hitting below the belt. Seeing how radical these congresswomen are plays right into Trump’s hands.
PTownsend
squad' & 'race card'
Great examples of alt right language intended to flame and distort. Of course @bass etal can use 'race baiting' terms; they just can't be called out for doing so.
Jimizo
I thought that was the core of democracy too. Let people have their say and dismantle their arguments. Omar is there to be dismantled. However, Trump doesn’t know much about politics, struggles to express himself and so resorting to silly name-calling and demonizing his opponents is the only way for him to go. He’s incapable of dismantling an argument.
The sad thing is his supporters often sound like him. He’s dragging some of them down with him and meeting many who were already at that level.
Strangerland
Exactly. Why can't people understand Trump was talking about no one in particular? It was a rhetorical question.