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Australia's daily coronavirus tally falls to lowest in more than 3 months

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Good news for Australia, but I think the ends haven't justified the loss of freedom for Victorians under the regime of Dictator Dan Andrews.

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Great job Melbourne. The way it was done was the only effective way and it has been well worth it to save lives. Keep it up and its back to near normal next month. Still need to be cautious, but use common sense and we should be good.

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Great, but at what cost?

How many people have lost jobs, are suffering mental illness,

have families separated,

cant go out for more than two hours,

have missed months of education,

have illnesses that are now incurable

have committed suicide?

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carpslidy Today 07:00 pm JST

Great, but at what cost?

How many people have lost jobs, are suffering mental illness,

have families separated,

cant go out for more than two hours,

have missed months of education,

have illnesses that are now incurable

have committed suicide?

A word-for-word repeat of your post last night:

carpslidy Sep. 20  08:46 pm JST

Posted in: “Australia heads for lowest virus count in three months”

Great, but at what cost?

How many people have lost jobs, are suffering mental illness,

have families separated, 

cant go out for more than two hours,

have missed months of education, 

have illnesses that are now incurable

have committed suicide?

I don’t know what your agenda is in posting this.

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My agenda is where the accountability, people are so consumed by irrational coronavirus panic, they are ignoring the death and damage caused in order to reduce coronavirus deaths.

It is as if any death and suffering whatever the number is fine, as long as its not a coronavirus death or suffering.

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My agenda is where the accountability, people are so consumed by irrational coronavirus panic, they are ignoring the death and damage caused in order to reduce coronavirus deaths.

It is as if any death and suffering whatever the number is fine, as long as its not a coronavirus death or suffering.

I know you dont believe it but many more lives have been saved than have been lost through the lock down.

The vast majority of citizens living through the lock down agree it is necessary. The few agitators who believe the lock down is not required are misguided. Rest assured we are all in this together and we will get back to normal soon. It may be a new normal for a while but we will endure.

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Even if your argument that the lockdown has a positive overall effect is true.(I disagree but) whose lives have been saved?

Not people in the prime of their life's.

The elderly and or obese are the only people at risk. Sorry but suicides of young healthy people is a tragedy, the slightly early death or an 85 year old is sad but hardly the same.

The government of Victoria and countries around the world are too stupid to see lockdowns destroy lifes too.

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The elderly and or obese are the only people at risk

Terrible comment. I’ve agreed with your posts in the past when we were dealing with the hysterical types talking about Armageddon, but this is flat out wrong.

Those with diabetes, hypertension, heart problems and many other conditions are vulnerable. These conditions are sometimes undiagnosed.

Keep it accurate. This topic isn’t one where we can play fast and loose with the facts.

Stop it.

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@jizmzo,

I agr

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Not people in the prime of their life's

I hate to burst your bubble but people in the prime of their lives have indeed died due to covid and many more will carry the side effects of catching this disease for life. While most who have died have been past mid life that does not mean that many were not active in the community and still had many good years left to live.

We are judged on how we treat the elderly and the infirm in society and if you think they are expendable to save younger people from stress or even suicide then your wrong.

Thankfully most people understand what is at stake and agree with the actions taken to keep covid at bay.

That means most people do not agree with your view. There is a good reason for that but you seem blind to it.

I feel sorry for you. If you are finding it hard you should reach out for help. There are many people who are ready and willing to help people through these hard times.

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@jizmo,

I agree my comment was flippant

I should have acknowledged younger ill people are also at risk.

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@ peter

I am fine, thank you for concern.

If I lived in Victoria, I honestly don't know if I would be though.

I wear a mask and continue my daily life as do all those around me, I would not choose to be anywhere else in the world than here in Japan, (a country which hasnt lockdowned, has 500~1000 cases a day and around 10 deaths daily)

I wonder how many people in Victoria would say the same thing?

Its not my hometown, I only have relatives in melbourne but to see them deal with failing businesses, restless kids and general depression while here in Japan life continues.It makes me wonder if your strict measures and sacrifice is worth it for the population as a whole.

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@jizmzo

@jizmo

J-i-m-i-z-o

younger ill people are also at risk

‘ill’ is the wrong, and also a flippant word in this situation. They are not in the departure lounge. People can live long lives with these conditions.

I understand your approach, but let’s keep it honest.

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The elderly and or obese are the only people at risk. Sorry but suicides of young healthy people is a tragedy, the slightly early death or an 85 year old is sad but hardly the same.

No, young people are also at risk of this disease, and many who were healthy before catching it are having long term effects from m getting it, due to scarred lungs.

With the degree that this virus is contagious, it’s silly to think that we can somehow isolate the elderly and sick. Cross contagion happens. The less measures we take, the more elderly and sick will die. It’s an inverse correlation. The more measures we take, less of the sick and elderly will die.

It’s sad that so many are willing to sacrifice the elderly so that we can get the profit lines back open to the elites. I guess they feel old people don’t matter.

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It’s sad that so many are willing to sacrifice the elderly so that we can get the profit lines back open to the elites. I guess they feel old people don’t matter.

It isnt about money. Victoria had 1000 suicides in August, imagine how many it would be if here, if japan was like Victoria. Are you saying its fine for these people to die?

Unfortunately in this terrible year, we are left with the choice of how to keep deaths to a minimum. In my opinion Japan with its "living with corona" policy is protecting the young and the old as best the environment allows.

While Victoria is completely focused on reducing coronavirus deaths, while ignoring the suffering of all other groups.

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It isnt about money.

Well it is. It's not like the money isn't out there to support the people and the businesses - it's just that a very small number of the people at the top have all the money. While most of them have become richer during the pandemic, extremely few have used their riches to help the masses.

Victoria had 1000 suicides in August, imagine how many it would be if here, if japan was like Victoria. Are you saying its fine for these people to die?

These people are choosing to die. The virus kills people whether they like it or not. It's a cold practical way to look at it, but accurate nevertheless.

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I live in Melbourne. I'm going through all this. I'm extremely disappointed at the way some people exaggerate figures or post blatant untruths about a situation I have to put up with every day. The original comment appears to have been removed, but let's get this suicide issue settled, shall we? If people exaggerate the numbers then we have a right to correct them.

Victoria did NOT have 1000 suicides during August. For the year to the end of August 2020 the total number of suicides for Victoria is 466. This is slightly DOWN on last year, pre-Covid-19. That is a long, long way from the repeated claims made by some posters on this issue which unceasingly exaggerate the problem to try and advance their own agendas.

Repeat. There has been NO INCREASE in the numbers of suicides in Victoria due to Covid-19.

This information comes from Victoria's Coroner's Court. Who would know better?

Link provided.

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/no-increase-victorian-suicides-under-covid-19-shows-new-coronial-report

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