Australia, New Zealand open beaches, ease other coronavirus lockdown restrictions

well let's see what happens in 14-21 days

Kiwis we're lucky enough to have a strong government that took responsibility, made right, achievable decisions. They listened and they also implemented the lockdown early.

Adequate warning was given before hand, that was really important to stop a run on supper markets. The government supported the homeless, (a home for everyone one who wanted one) the jobless and the elderly. They built trust and this inspired us all here in New Zealand to fall in and do our bit.

For a society to work, the collective has to keep the unspoken universal promise 'Your needs will be meet' this can only work if it's based on true conscious concern for others.

When we give to others we also receive, When we help other human beings feel included, we include ourselves.

Being a Collective Is Our Human ^ SUPERPOWER ^. We all just add our spark wisely to the right path.

Many other high achieving contentiousness people from other countries can likewise take control of the covid situation and care of each other /\

Good for them.

Many Australians had a hard time complying with stay at home orders in the first place, with pictures showing hordes of people packing Bondi Beach during the heyday of the shelter in place orders. It's obvious now none of that was necessary. Multiple U.S. states never had shelter in place orders and they did well in preventing coronavirus infections and deaths.

Test and deal with those that test positive, not wreck the local and world economies due to overreaction.

Let's see what happens now. It seems like Australia and New Zealand are making themselves into test cases. Interesting that they will soon be heading into the winter season and see if that has any effect on the numbers as well. I wonder how they are going to go about letting tourists back in, when both of their countries are so heavily reliant on tourists for their economies.

oldman_13:

Overreaction? Do you know how many people are dead in the US now?

And thumbs up for @oldman_13 telling the truth. I agree with you.

Australia and New Zealand put lives before profits and they got it right. America failed badly and its President , being guilty of failure is looking to assign the blame to others and claim he did everything right.

Saying that the restrictions instituted by Australia and new Zealand were an over reaction because the cases are limited and deaths low in numbers is to completely read the situation wrong. It is because the restrictions were instituted that the numbers are low. If not for the actions taken then the death toll in both countries would look more like America's. Thank goodness our leaders are smarter than Donny.

When an article quotes Siouxsie Wiles, it clearly lacks any credibility at all.

New Zealand went way too far with its lockdown. Australia didn't go nearly as far and got the same result.

Great for Australia. Hopefully their experience can help other countries. I also hope that the virus does not do a turnaround. Keep safe and be on guard Australia. Looking forward to a renewed Australia. Australia did it after the great fires. Go For it.

Overreaction? Do you know how many people are dead in the US now?

The death rate in the US is something like 7 times the rest of the world. New York City has many times the death rate of the world's 10 largest cities put together. And yet it has a stricter lockdown than Sweden or Japan, both of which are doing not so bad. There

So yes, overreaction. Doesn't matter how much you react if you are reacting the wrong way. And deaths from Covid 19 need to be considered on the context of all deaths - including deaths resulting from lack of funds. One person's loss is not more important than another's just because they die from Covid 19.

Many Australians had a hard time complying with stay at home orders in the first place, with pictures showing hordes of people packing Bondi Beach during the heyday of the shelter in place orders. It's obvious now none of that was necessary.

Are you currently in Australia, or did you just get that from a photo and article on the net? As I'm sure you are well aware, the media is great at taking the exception and turning into headline news. I notice they didn't run an article saying nearly 25 million Australians did not go to the beach today and appear to be complying with social distancing and isolation regulations. I have been so impressed with how seriously people in Australia have taken isolation and social distancing. 6-7 weeks ago this pandemic gave me a few worried, sleepless nights - it was scary. Now, I feel like a bystander to it, so effective has been the handling of it.

I would not be anywhere near the US for quids right now. Not a chance. A good friend of mine mentioned a quote to me the other day that he says he keeps coming back to at the moment;

'The US isn't a society, it's a business.' Money before lives....

The R0 value in Australia has been well below 1 for some time so the country should be fine.

Let's wait and see the end of the crisis to know which countermeasures were the most adequate.

But all these western countries including mine in Europe putting a lockdown are the one who praise the freedom and liberty. But they just did what they always criticize when it applies to other countries. Restricting strongly the freedom and liberties, putting expensive fines for the one who just walk outside without authorization....

And yet it has a stricter lockdown than Sweden or Japan, both of which are doing not so bad.

If you compare with Sweden's neighbors--Finland, Denmark, Norway--Sweden is doing way worse then the neighbors who implemented social distancing and closed schools, etc.

Well as much as I understand the need for lockdowns and social distance things and stuff, I’m really happy to see that Australia and New Zealand are starting to ease it up a bit.

Because you really do need to have a balance between all these policies, as well as making sure that your country doesn’t go bankrupt. And yes America is way too much like a business as a whole, I definitely agree with that statement, but like I said, you do need to have a balance.

level 4,3,2,1

5 weeks @ 4

2 weeks @ 3

then its a wait & see.

Good strong Leadership, + good strong population = a dead virus.

LETS Continue to insult Japan!!!

"New Zealand had a strict lockdown in place"

Instead of our "thoughts" please consider the STATS - REALITY - TRUTH - FACTS

Cases per 1 million people

New Zealand 300+

Japan 100+

Personally I don't really care which countries are doing better then others. I care about the Truth and not posting stuff based on my perceptions.

The level of expertise within these comment sections continues to astound me.

If you compare with Sweden's neighbors--Finland, Denmark, Norway--Sweden is doing way worse then the neighbors who implemented social distancing and closed schools, etc.

That's incorrect. The only stats I have seen where people claim that ignore that Sweden has double the population of those countries.

People praise New Zealand but the economic destruction caused by Jacinda Ardern and her government going overboard with lockdown is not something to be emulated.

Commateer:

The death rate in the US is something like 7 times the rest of the world.

I don´t know what "the rest of the world" means in this context. The per country statistics very wildly, from 7 per million in Nigeria to 16000 per million in San Marino. The USA way below the death rates Spain, Italy, and France, but way above the low rates of e.g. Taiwan, Sweden and Japan.

But really, there are so many different factors in places with such different geographics, population, behaviour patterns etc., what is the point at all of making averages for a whole continent?