China says Hong Kong will never be calm unless violent protesters removed

China's Hong Kong affairs office warned on Wednesday that the city will never be calm unless "black-clad violent protesters" were all removed

And there was me thinking that it might become calm if China backed off and let Hong Kong manage its own affairs. Thanks for the correction.

Free Hong Kong is my opinion.

The illusion that there can be two systems coexisting is crumbling fast. China is making it very clear there will be no protesting against THE system.

Xi is the most brutal of the Chinese dictators since Mao.

He fails at most of what he does, yet he still remains in power.

The citizens of Hong Kong need to stand strong.

The Hong Kong and Macau Affairs office said that while there were many factors contributing to Hong Kong's economic woes, the main problem was anti-government protests.

What nonsense. The disgraceful Hong Kong government and their puppet "leader" Carrie Lam, is what is causing all the woes. Keep fighting hard against the HK govt, all democracy and freedom loving citizens of HK. The free world is on your side - not the HK govt.

Tokyo-mToday 04:25 pm JST

It is difficult but I always try to avoid buying anything made in China. If only the world would do the same.

if chinese would do the same with japanese products, this country would not last for more than 2 months...

and I see a lot of hypocrisy here, people complaining about CCP and ask freedom for HK, while the other cities should stay under the communist dictatorship ? what is the difference between a HK citizien and one from Shanghai or Beijing ???

But "hate China" is the new mantra for yankees, Pompeo hit the target here...

China's central government has the greatest responsibility in maintaining order and safeguarding national security.

hahaha yer right Xi we ain’t buying that one mate!

Arrest the thugs and charge them for the pain and harm they've caused.

Agree. Communist thugs like Carrie Lam, the entire HK govt and their master Xi should all be charged for the crimes against humanity and countless lives they've taken.

There's no place for violence, arson and looting in a civil society.

Unless its the only way to protect civil liberties.

Arrest the thugs and charge them for the pain and harm they've caused.

These people are freedom fighters.

and I see a lot of hypocrisy here, people complaining about CCP and ask freedom for HK, while the other cities should stay under the communist dictatorship ? what is the difference between a HK citizien and one from Shanghai or Beijing ???

Citizens from Shanghai and Beijing never experienced the same level of civil liberties as the citizens of HK.

The free world is on your side

You speak very highly of ‘Abe san’, ‘Aso sensei’, President Trump and ‘Michael Pence’ as the leaders of the free world.

What are they doing or going to do about it?

There's no place for violence, arson and looting in a civil society.

Is there a place for arbitrary arrests, torture and murder by the government.

I got news for you, Hong Kong is done being the Hong Kong it was.

Never been there, now, never will.

Keep it.

what is the difference between a HK citizien and one from Shanghai or Beijing ???

One of them was guaranteed freedoms under the Sino–British Joint Declaration which the CCP have reneged on, the other two weren't.

No serious country is ever going to allow a forceful secession of its territory by a small violent minority of separatists. California tried to secede in the 1800s that way, and the federal government sent gunboats to convince them otherwise. Scotland went through a long process of getting a legitimate vote on independence. If Hong Kong people really want independence, they must go through the same legitimate process of first getting a real legitimate referendum and approval from Beijing, and then voting on that referendum. If they can't convince Beijing to give them a referendum, well, tough luck, they're not the only one. No State in America is ever going to be given a legitimate referendum for independence. It's in the constitution that States cannot secede. Unlike Scotland, HK is not and has never been a separate country. It was simply illegally occupied by a foreign power and then given back. There are many regions within European countries that have a separatist movement, non of them will ever be given a legitimate referendum. Few years ago, Catalonia did just that. They organized an illegitimate referendum on independence not approved by the central government. What happened? The central government sent armed police forces and brutally beat the hell out of the people who were peacefully voting. I still vividly remember the pics and videos i saw on twitter of these beatings, i saved about a dozen of them because i knew there will be time when i'll need them. I also remember how neither the EU nor the US did absolutely anything about it. As usual, with China, it's about double standards based on anti-Chinese hatred. Nothing more and nothing less.

removing all the people who want independence from China would just about halve the population of HK

China should try to be more like Hong Kong instead of China forcing its crappy way of doing things on Hong Kong.

What about the pro-Beijing thugs who attacked Jimmy Sham Tsz-kit?

If any one government is responsible for this global pandemic that has cost trillions of dollars and thousands of lives its the CCP. Why the Chinese people or Hong Kongers (technically Chinese too) would allow themselves to be governed by these imbeciles is beyond me. I suppose social distancing measures will keep the population from protesting in the short term, but the CCP has got to go.

Hong Kong was best when China had nothing to do with her. China is like a cancer on the planet wanting to suck the life and resources out of every country that doesn't agree with its slave mentality.

China says Hong Kong will never be calm unless violent protesters removed

Well, from the CCP point of view, they are telling the truth, as they define any kind of resistance against the CCP regime as "violence", and the CCP rule as "calm".

Seems China's CCP need to setup "re-education camps" so the 10M Hong Kongers can learn appropriate thoughts.

Citizens of Hong Kong just need to get over their un-calm ideas about:

freedom of speech

freedom to assemble

freedom of religion

not allowing govt mandated tracking using govt surveillance and required smartphone apps

having a govt curated "social media" score.

Once they do all of that, then the CCP will be happy?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50511063

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-software-security.html

Sure, that's the plan.

/s

It looks like the era of freedom for Hong Kong is nearing an end. For a long time, the regime in Beijing was willing to trade a degree of independence for Hong Kong in exchange for the economic benefits that flowed toward Beijing from Hong Kong. That is no longer the case. China has become an economic powerhouse in its own right, and no longer is as dependent on income from Hong Kong as it once was.

For myself, it is sad to see freedom extinguished anywhere. It is especially sad to see this latest island of freedom disappearing, considering the very public promises guaranteeing personal freedoms Beijing had made toward Hong Kong when Britain turned it back over to China.

@IloveCoffee,

You got heavily downvoted, but I think you describe things clearly. I think there is a degree of hypocrisy in some people's attitudes to Hong Kong compared to their attitudes to independence of other areas. The Catalonia situation sticks out - hardly a murmur from EU leaders.

Here in Scotland, the former Catalonian government minister, Clara Ponsatí, is fighting an extradition charge from Spain on charges of sedition. So far, the attempt has failed, but Spain is still pursuing the case.

WilliBToday 10:29 pm JSTChina says Hong Kong will never be calm unless violent protesters removed

Well, from the CCP point of view, they are telling the truth, as they define any kind of resistance against the CCP regime as "violence", and the CCP rule as "calm".

Carrie Lam is a stooge for the CCP, just like Trump is for Russia. And nobody, anywhere should have to take this crap in the name of 'calm' or 'law and order'.

ulyssesToday 06:57 pm JSTThere's no place for violence, arson and looting in a civil society.

Is there a place for arbitrary arrests, torture and murder by the government.

No there isn't. The citizens of HK are resisting - there's NOTHING civil about what the CCP is doing. People have a right to NOT sit there, shut up + do as they're told. They have every right to RESIST this oppressive arbitrary crap.

Fight the good fight, HKers! RESIST! 

otherworldly:

China is like a cancer on the planet

Not China. The CCP is. If China can rid itself of the CCP, it can become a great place.

Global petition to investigate the CCP:

https://ccpvirustruth.com/

Some people must be tired of talking about -

China says Hong Kong will never be calm unless violent protesters removed

Fighto:

The free world is on your side - not the HK govt.

Just as the free world stands with Taiwan and recognises their sovereignty. . Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words.

Supposed to say "crickets" after sovereignty.

Change has to come from within (mainland China). However, no matter what government rules over China, some will always find an excuse for Sinophobia. Just witness the racism everywhere towards anyone who looks Chinese ever since the pandemic started. The US will never accept any other rival super-power and wants to keep a monopoly. Some are just using the CCP as a convenient excuse - they always need a bogeyman.

 and terrorism has no borders, nor laws and humanity. 

And sometimes they threaten to lock people up in re-education camps if they don't think the right way. (Or am I confusing that with a certain non-terrorist government?)

Hong Kong should be free if they want to be free. Why is this so hard for China to allow ?

Very scary title indeed "HK will NEVER be calm". (the never bit was in caps inside my head)

@Akie what ? can you please be more specific; what race is this ? who are the terrorists and why ? what do you mean colonize ? colonize by whom and why?

Pukey2Today 02:49 am JSTChange has to come from within (mainland China). However, no matter what government rules over China, some will always find an excuse for Sinophobia. Just witness the racism everywhere towards anyone who looks Chinese ever since the pandemic started. The US will never accept any other rival super-power and wants to keep a monopoly. Some are just using the CCP as a convenient excuse - they always need a bogeyman.

When I was a kid I heard all about Pearl Harbor as an excuse for Japanophobia. And the Vietnam War was another excuse for prejudice against East Asian people.

Too many Americans are looking for a boogeyman, and an excuse to hate someone. During the Cold War it was Russians + East Europeans (complete w/ Polish jokes), then Allah is out to get us, then Somalians get the rap as 'blood suckers', Haitians, Arabian people, then 'Mexicans' (Latin American) people get deported and their children snatched and caged in concentration camps, and now it's ethnic Chinese and/or anyone of ethnic Oriental Asian 'looks' once again.

Spin the wheel, the racist regime and society is always looking for someone to hate - and an excuse to do so.

WilliBToday 12:47 am JSTotherworldly:

China is like a cancer on the planet

Not China. The CCP is. If China can rid itself of the CCP, it can become a great place.

China has a very long and glorious history when it led the world in science, technology, philosophy, engineering, medicine and more. The CCP has done nothing to build on that, it's now one of the most brutal and oppressive nations in the world. Its government is based on a good sociological + economic ideal gone horribly twisted up and distorted into a huge ugly big fat lie. It's a tremendous tragedy.

n1k1, you asked too many questions. Can you be asked to check out the definition of being occupied ?

Akie, HK (chinese) and PR China( chinese) are not the same people by choice. One could argue HK is occupied by China. In fact there were reports on troops in Shenzhen also head smashing.

@Pukey2

However, no matter what government rules over China, some will always find an excuse for Sinophobia. Just witness the racism everywhere...

That just isn't true. People in the West, including white conservatives, generally hold an esteemed views of Taiwan and Hong Kong. It's not about the racial makeup of the population - it's about politics and bad behavior.

The "R" word is thrown around so much these days as a catch-all word, that it has ceased to have much meaning anymore.

This is what we think about about China now. Cheap Labour ! Lots of viruses

Pukey2 - The US will never accept any other rival super-power and wants to keep a monopoly. Some are just using the CCP as a convenient excuse - they always need a bogeyman.

Some people will chose to continue their defense of China's indefensible actions regarding their release of the virus from Wuhan, China.

arrestpaulMay 8 06:07 am JSTPukey2 - The US will never accept any other rival super-power and wants to keep a monopoly. Some are just using the CCP as a convenient excuse - they always need a bogeyman.

Some people will chose to continue their defense of China's indefensible actions regarding their release of the virus from Wuhan, China.

Viruses are not 'released', they can and do develop anywhere. At the same time, what the CCP is doing to its people and HKers is indefensible.

Some people will chose to continue their defense of China's indefensible actions regarding their release of the virus from Wuhan, China.

Whether or not China purposefully released it, just as we couldn't make America take responsibility for Iraq, neither will we be able to make China take responsibility for the virus. China, like America, is too big, and China controls too much of the world manufacturing, and more important, manufacturing knowledge.

@Strangerland

 

"...just as we couldn't make America take responsibility for Iraq, neither will we be able to make China take responsibility for the virus..."

USAID has been working closely with Iraq since the invasion, pouring around 1 billion dollars a year into the country to build infrastructure, schools, healthcare, etc. If China were pouring a trillion $ or so (scaled to GDP size vs. Iraq) into the US as assistance, then you could make such an equivalency. But China is not doing that and never will. So your equivalency is bogus.