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China to impose sanctions on U.S. firms that sell arms to Taiwan

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My guess is that many of those who blindly side with South Korea against Japan, will this time blindly side with China against the U.S.

But, you never know these days. Could be those who side automatically with the U.S. but reserve hostility towards all things Japan.

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Do the same as the US did against Cuba: sanctions and use the military to stop delivery. China should take a page out of the US foreign policy.

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Errr, China if you weren't constantly threatening an independent democratic state with invasion they might not need these weapons. But I understand you have to toe the party line. Rule 1 Bluster. Rule 2 ignore history. Does China really need more people to dish out and subtract social credit points?

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He said no foreign force could stop the reunification of China.

 

That is China's take

Taiwan is a sovereign nation and can choose it's own foreign policy.

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Do the same as the US did against Cuba: sanctions and use the military to stop delivery. China should take a page out of the US foreign policy.

And we will do the same to them, so China can expect more coming their way as well.

-4 ( +5 / -9 )

China had its civil war and Beijing won fair and square.

Akin to Alabama refusing to accept the result of the US civil war and not accepting rule from Yankee Washington DC.

Then China starts arming Alabama, all in the name of "maintaining balance in the region"

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

"And we will do the same to them, so China can expect more coming their way as well."

So can the US farmers. Make America Great and the farmers poor.

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China had its civil war and Beijing won fair and square.

Yeah, but other countries also had civil wars, and the result was two separate independent countries. So, Taiwan a sovereign nation can do what it wants!

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China had its civil war and Beijing won fair and square.

No they did not. They were on the verge of defeat before WW2. They called a truce to fight the Japanese and instead of helping, let the Nationalist wear themselves down. Once the war concluded they moved in and swept the weakened Nationalist aside and ran them off the mainland to Taiwan. The Taiwanese are the true Chinese patriots.

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Nationalists were not supported by Mao in their fight against Japanese occupation. So they took all the casualties while Mao wandered about the hills (the great March) doing nothing, then pounced on the true heroes forcing them into exile. Taiwan is an independent country because the founders were the reason China became independent.

They can buy whatever they can afford and should be supported by all free thinking nations.

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Akin to Alabama refusing to accept the result of the US civil war and not accepting rule from Yankee Washington DC.

Not exactly. First, there is no legalized slavery in Taiwan, which if there were, might serve as a justification for forcibly ruling Taiwan. Secondly, there is a Chinese nationalist element in Taiwan that still supports a one nation China, just not under communist rule. That might be akin to a group in Alabama not simply accepting rule from Washington DC but wanting to take control of the entire USA.

But as a supporter of self-determination of peoples, I'd support Alabama's secession if that's what its people wanted. How about you?

4 ( +4 / -0 )

I hate Trump, but in this case he should tell China to stuff it.

I despise Trump but I am glad he is taking on China whose CCP elites are no friends of the United States or the West. They have built their massive economy by engaging in downright unfair trade practices for decades. They have used all the ensuing govt revenue to build up their armed forces to the point they can now challenge the US in the Pacific and dominate or out-and-out take over the countries of the vast region.

One of the big mistakes of the mid 1950s and especially 1960 was our decision to intervene against the Viet Minh in Indochina. The latter were our allies against Japan in WWII and they could've been our allies against China (and Russia too), if if it had not been for our foolish and simplistic opposition to them based on anti-communism. 

Let's trade more with Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Taiwan and other Pacific rim nations and much less with China!

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I was fortunate enough to live in Taiwan when Chiang Ching-Kuo succeeded his father and led the nation to democracy. The time was fascinating - it transitioned from soldiers on every street corner to people wondering if they could discuss certain topics (turns out, they could, but the bravery to realise this is immense), to full-scale democracy. I'm not a military guy, but I trust Taiwan to make decisisions which will b'é in it's best interest.

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To defend human rights, freedom and democracy, some weapons are needed. Especially defending from gigantic and brutal one.

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It was unclear what, if any, impact the Chinese move might have, as U.S. defense contractors have been barred from dealings with Beijing since the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre.

Clearly the writer doesn’t know that hitting companies involved does not only mean those directly involved. An example, companies such as Lockheed, BAE, Raytheon, Boeing, Airbus, and more all use DuPont to supply their performance polymers which are used to encase things such as engines, barrels, and more. This sale could now place companies like DuPont in the crosshairs. Also, while some of these companies don’t sell directly to Beijing, their subsidiaries are not covered by the rules.

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One can understand their feelings.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

Why doesn’t the US recognize Taiwan as a sovereign democratic nation, for all the big talk about freedom and democracy?

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So can the US farmers. Make America Great and the farmers poor.

Or the farmers could go the old way and continue getting screwed more by China. Look, I don’t give the Democrats much credit for anything really as ignorant as they most of the time are, but even Chuck Schumer wants Trump to hold the line on them as he should.

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@quercetum

Why doesn’t the US recognize Taiwan as a sovereign democratic nation, for all the big talk about freedom and democracy?

The short answer is because the US was afraid that if it rejected the agreement with China, that China would team up with Russia. Especially since the Cold War had ended not too long ago.

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Would love to see Macau, Hong Kong, and Taiwan join together into a new free, democratic, country.

Beijing, you can't stop the signal.

The sanctions on Raytheon are gonna hurt bad, oh so bad. NOT! It isn't like Raytheon sells anything to the mainland. They don't make clock radios. Same for GD. Boeing might get a little, same for PW and GE - just a little, if anyone notices. After all, who is going to tell Beijing details about the purchases?

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Or the farmers could go the old way and continue getting screwed more by China.

How does that work. You think the Chinese will pay more for America soy or just go to brazil and get it for a cheaper price? So how are the Chinese "screwing the American farmer?"

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Why does Taiwan need so many Tanks ?

Surely they should be more focused upon defensive weaponry ? Anti-ship, Anti-aircraft missiles, etc.

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How does that work. You think the Chinese will pay more for America soy or just go to brazil and get it for a cheaper price? So how are the Chinese "screwing the American farmer?"

Even before the conclusion of the 2016 presidential race, trade analysts were already weighing the possibility that China might impose an embargo on U.S. soybean imports based on protectionist rhetoric from both candidates.

http://theconversation.com/how-soybeans-became-chinas-most-powerful-weapon-in-trumps-trade-war-118088

So since the Democrats even way back when didn't even try to change the trajectory of China’s thirst to eventually destroy the US agricultural.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Vanuatu supports Taiwan as a sovereign nation, but the US just loves to sell guns. That aside, for the US to push the issue is probably dangerous for Taiwan.

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Cricky:

The American credit score system by private companies that determine your life without your permission aren't that great either. I never signed up for an unaccounted private corporation to collect my data and tell me how I can live.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Everyone keeps mixing things up when the end result should be clear.  Taiwan is being supported to DEFEND itself and it's people from an OPPRESSIVE regime in Beijing.   The US revolutionary war, was fought to free itself from British CONTROL (India did this as well...).    The US Civil war was fought also in part to FREE people who were being unjustly oppressed by the confederate  states, who didn't want freedom from an oppressive government, they wanted freedom to oppress others under slavery.  Think of it as the US government enforcing basic human rights at the time.  Not to say they weren't clean (the many genocidal acts the US government enacted on US

To make it simple, the reason why a country or government is fighting or supporting aspects of a situation is what really matters.

Taiwan and it's government as it is now needs to be supported.  If China doesn't like it, "Tough".  Hong Kong is a perfect example of how people who have experienced democratic freedoms react to an oppressive regime when it tries to remove those freedoms of choice, expression, and the ability to choose who leads them.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

What a pointless threat. The US firms involved in selling arms to Taiwan are already only selling to nations that see The Chinese Dictatorship as a threat.

2 ( +2 / -0 )

Abe is imitating Trump, and now Xi is going to imitate Abe and Trump. Who will be the next?

0 ( +0 / -0 )

And we will do the same to them, so China can expect more coming their way as well.

The US can militarily blockade China? Are you sure about that?

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@HonestDictator

@NormanGoodman is right. The civil war had nothing to do with slavery. That is why Lincoln initially only outlawed slavery in states that left the Union. The southern states simply saw their power shrinking and was afraid that it would ultimately affect their ways. Lincoln’s only goals as President was to preserve the Union. While Lincoln didn’t necessarily agree with slavery he saw it as necessary. Don’t paint Lincoln or the civil war out to be some anti slavery hero or movement.

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It will not directly impact major US firms such as Raytheon, Lockheed as they have minimal business with China. However it remains to be seen whether the sanctions also cover suppliers to the US defense companies such as Honeywell or DuPont

1 ( +1 / -0 )

However it remains to be seen whether the sanctions also cover suppliers to the US defense companies such as Honeywell or DuPont

These companies employ a lot of Donny's ignorant supporters. Should be fun to see how it impacts the election.

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