EU plays for time as Johnson spars with UK parliament on Brexit

Johnson & co have tortured the EU brokers for the last 3 years. Now the latter can see the end of the tunnel all they need to do is sit back with their popcorn as the Tory production of the UK Punch and Judy Show puts on its final performance.

I thought England already voted on this...

Boris' plan will not pass.

If the referendum and aftermath have taught us anything, it's that actually stating what a Brexit entails dooms it to electoral failure. It has to be gussied up with lots of cake and unicorns or it's going nowhere, despite the fact that the cake and unicorns will dissolve upon actual contact with reality.

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On a par with the U.S. Congress - what a clown show.

Boris' plan will not pass.

Let's hope Farage's plan will after the next general election.

@serranoOn a par with the U.S. Congress - what a clown show.

A message consistently repeated by global alt right followers pushing to undermine the US and the remaining bits of other democracies in order to establish authoritarian rule ala their idol Putin, and others despots like Erdogan, MbS, Xi, Kim, Duterte, etal

Bozo has crapped his pants in public. He needs to resign and go off into a corner. He is finished.

Boris' plan will not pass.

Let's hope Farage's plan will after the next general election.

Farage doesn't have a plan, apart from 'create mayhem and line Nigel's pockets at the same time'. So far things seem to be going to plan for him.

Farage and Boris walk into a pub, order two pints.

The barman pours out two perfect pints, brings them over to where the pair are sitting then proceeds to pour the contents of the glasses over their heads.

The pair jump up spluttering, outraged and phuahhing.

'Enjoy your beers, gents,' says the barman. 'You ordered two pints, you didn't specify how you wanted them delivered.'

I thought England already voted on this...

England and Wales were the only bits of the UK that voted leave. Northern Ireland, Scotland and London all voted to remain.

it is coming... ,the fake referendum!

it is coming... ,the fake referendum!

No more game than the previous one. At least this time the public is slightly better informed and also realise that "leave" means radically different things to different people

Johnson's plan to put his Brexit withdrawal deal to the UK parliament on Saturday was derailed after lawmakers voted to withhold a decision on the deal

It would be helpful to explore why there was a wish to withhold a decision. The amendment was brought by Oliver Letwin, who I believe has said he is willing to support Johnson's deal. I understand his concern was that by supporting the deal without any legislative plan, there was a chance that legislation would not pass and the UK would exit without a deal. Who was he was thinking would try to engineer a no-deal exit? Surely not those ERG tories. But Letwin has been around for a long time, and probably knows how the game works.

The will of the people thwarted again. Maybe in another three years the governing class and entrenched and entitled bureaucracy will heed democracy.

England and Wales were the only bits of the UK that voted leave. Northern Ireland, Scotland and London all voted to remain.

So if Northern Ireland and Wales voted to pay no national taxes... oh, forget it.

The will of the people thwarted again. 

The idea that there is a single "will" is plain nonsense. That's why we elect those politicians - to try and sort out the differences with compromises, lies, whatever.

So if Northern Ireland and Wales voted to pay no national taxes... oh, forget it.

Why forget it? If they're willing to face the consequences, why not let them pay no tax? (no roads, no schools, etc.)

Why forget it? If they're willing to face the consequences, why not let them pay no tax? (no roads, no schools, etc.)

Now that I consider it you make a good point. If Northern Ireland and Wales were allowed their independence I could see them being much more willing to pay taxes to benefit themselves. In the case of Brexit the majority of the people don’t believe the EU benefits them but in fact, is a net harm. If the people should be allowed to be free of external taxation should they not also be allowed to be free of external political control? You make an excellent point.