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Hong Kong gears up for fresh protests, strikes as anger boils over

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Hong Kong's future was decided in 1997. "One-country, two-systems" formula, with guarantees that its autonomy and freedoms, including an independent justice system" If they believed it, they were too naive.  Come to Japan. We will welcome you.

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Can not have one nation with two sets of law for two different sets of citizens. That is discrimination. One nation, one law. Extradition occurs between different countries and between different states within the same country, so way not between HK and China? As HK is part of the sovereign Chinese nation, the Chinese government have the right to set the law in HK as HK is part of China. The fact that HK was once annexed by Britain is of no consequence.

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Uh, Riperez, that HK could maintain autonomy for 50 years was a binding agreement. That China would try to snake out of it is not surprising, but look for a large increase in expatriation. There is reason for fear.

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Can not have one nation with two sets of law for two different sets of citizens.

It's not one nation. China + HK.

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No sovereign nation can give complete autonomy to part of its territory as, essentially that would make the territory an independent sovereign state itself.

 These demonstrations must be costing the CIA a fortune. This is no more that the US trying to weaken China, as it is doing in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran....

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HK was part of China before British annexation and is part of China again.

" Britain occupied the island of Hong Kong on 25 January 1841 and used it as a military staging point. China was defeated and was forced to cede Hong Kong to Britain in the Treaty of Nanking signed on 29 August 1842. Hong Kong became a Crown Colony of the British Empire. On July 1, 1997, the lease ended and the United Kingdom transferred control of Hong Kong and surrounding territories to the People's Republic of China."

This is history NOT US propaganda.

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China committed cultural genocide in Tibet, is doing the same to all its other ethnic minorities while also crushing freedom in Hong Kong. And Taiwan is next in line (though certainly not the last).

As in the 1930s, a brutal dictatorship spreads its pernicious influence throughout its region while the world stands by and hopes it will eventually stop of its own accord. Here we go again.

“That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach.” – Aldous Huxley

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rlperez@hotmail.com.auToday 03:32 pm JST

Can not have one nation with two sets of law for two different sets of citizens. That is discrimination. One nation, one law. Extradition occurs between different countries and between different states within the same country, so way not between HK and China? As HK is part of the sovereign Chinese nation, the Chinese government have the right to set the law in HK as HK is part of China. The fact that HK was once annexed by Britain is of no consequence.

Before going on your rant, have you ever heard about "One country, two systems" ?

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and China are trying to court Taiwan by offering them the same ‘one country, two systems ‘ deal.

no surprise that Taiwan keep rejecting their advances

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The two system agreement expires in 2047 and the law is being passed by the government in Hong Kong, not the PROC. This is news but it's being reported with a bit of a slant.

Taiwan is not Hong Kong. Taiwan is the ROC that lost a civil war to the Communist and fled to island. Both PROC and ROC claim to 'Be China', Hong Kong, the Europeans created this mess...

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Anger boils ? What anger ? Extradition law is standard international law among all nations. What makes Hong Kong so special that she can reject the law ? Being colonized for so long, HK needs to get rid of slave mentality.

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Where was independent justice system when HK under British colonization ? Chinese people were not even allowed to be the head of govt, that was the democracy granted by the west.

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LagunaToday 03:49 pm JSTUh, Riperez, that HK could maintain autonomy for 50 years was a binding agreement. That China would try to snake out of it is not surprising, but look for a large increase in expatriation. There is reason for fear.

People in HK knew that back in 1987 and started leaving because they didn't want to live under Communism. In 1841 there was Imperial China which is long gone now. What Mao did to China changed everything. Red China is trying to weasel out of the agreement and I don't blame HK-ers for their anger.

AkieToday 10:19 pm JSTAnger boils ? What anger ? Extradition law is standard international law among all nations. What makes Hong Kong so special that she can reject the law ? Being colonized for so long, HK needs to get rid of slave mentality.

No, extradition law is not applied standardly among all nations. Argentina gave refuge to WW2 Nazi officers and many of them never faced justice in Europe. The mastermind behind a 1993 attempt to destroy the WTCs had a death warrant in his native Egypt but he died in solitary in the US because of no extradition treaty between the US and Egypt. Great Train Robber Ronald Biggs spent years in Brazil for the same reason. And there's the case of Gary Glitter who fled the UK and went to Cambodia and Vietnam and wasn't extradited back until Vietnam expelled him.

HK is not in a 'slave mentality', there was a binding 50-year agreement and China is violating it. What makes China so special that they can reject the law?

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starpunk, which UN law forbids extradition law for HK ? HK is a part of China, that is the fundamental proposition for all laws. The 50-year agreement is no special at all, and conditional.

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This is the line that HKG cannot let pass. If this passes, the rate of changes will accelerate.

It's bad enough that Beijing chooses the people who can run for office in HKG already. That needs to be rejected with write in votes for govt officials that Beijing doesn't pre-select.

China shouldn't be touching HKG govt before 2047.

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HK was slowly becoming a part of China since 1997. Now it's almost 75%.

Also, what happens to those HK Smart id card holders who lives in other countries and every 3 years they just have to be in HK even for a day to save their id status.

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@rlperez

These demonstrations must be costing the CIA a fortune. This is no more that the US trying to weaken China, as it is doing in Venezuela, Cuba, Iran....

And with this one statement, you've lost all credibility. Even in an article about a rift between Hong Kong and China you manage to wedge your hatred of the US into it.

@akie

The 50-year agreement is no special at all, and conditional.

Sure, it's just a legally binding treaty registered with the UN. Not special at all.

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