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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Hong Kong police seal off university; threaten to use live bullets as standoff with protesters escalates
By Josh Smith and Marius Zaharia HONG KONG©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Strangerland
Unfortunately in this case, the police are the terrorists, fighting against the freedom of the people.
Strangerland
For anyone who doesn't get the perspective of the people of HK, it's right here:
This is an existential fight. It's a fight for the freedom of themselves, and every one of their descendants to come. If they just sit down and let the CCP become their dictator overlords, it will take generations for them to recover their freedom.
HK cannot afford to bow down and let themselves be dictated by the CCP.
CrazyJoe
As an American I find it hard to believe, especially during a presidential campaign, that none of the candidates are mentioning or supporting the Hong Kong protesters. What they are protesting is exactly what America is supposed to represent.
Carrie Lam is the Lindsay Graham of Hong Kong. A mere puppet.
Sh1mon M4sada
@Burning Bush
and yet, 5 months on, and all we have is escalation. Is this considered dereliction of duty then?
Threat to use live rounds? The police already have, more than once, against an unarmed protester.
BB, you seem to be quite happily ignorant about the fact Lam, the Police have a job, they have not done their job, in 5 months of unrest. Yet, they're still there looking like they're working. They should be sacked, or in a working democracy they'd have resigned. Heck, in any other state, purely on morals, Lam should have resigned already, look at Morales for an example.
stormcrow
Hong Kong police threaten to use live bullets . . .
It looks like it's too late for that for that sort of threat.
Ganbare Japan!
Hong Kong police are HATED by all those in HK who love freedom and democracy. The HK police are simply violent thugs acting directly for their Communist paymasters in Beijing.
Dont give in, freedom-loving HK citizens! Dont let up on those violent Commie-supporting police, keep hitting them with all you have!
Freedom and Democracy for HK!
Sh1mon M4sada
This ^^^ doesn't even make sense if you take away the bias.
If it weren't for the police and Lam's orders and provocation, we'd still simply have mom, dads, kids marching peacefully in the streets.
Law enforcement are trained to deal protests peacefully, until it turns into civil unrests, Lam turned it into civil unrests for political purposes. Civil unrests becomes conflicts if not de-escalated, Lam chose to escalate each and every time. She has the power. Your bias deny this fact.
If it weren't for your bias, I might have given more serious thought about this ^^^ statement, but it seems you can't utter anything without bias. There is a power asymmetry between police and protesters, Police have used it each and everytime, and not only that, they have been the ones to escalate the use of force each and everytime as well. Even now, live rounds vs bow and arrows? Seriously, the title of this peace (live rounds), and you still manage to say 'professional restraint'? Sigh...take away the bias....
Sh1mon M4sada
Given how the situation has been carefully set, calibrated with escalation to 'proposed' use of live rounds, IMHO, Lam is trying to start a civil war, inorder to bring in Chinese rule soon/now instead of 2047.
I could never imagine a competent law enforcement organization anywhere, one with 'self determination' guaranteed in its laws (the Basic Laws), could drift so far towards making its own citizens enemies so as to stoke tensions and conflicts. I could only see a hidden agenda here. Lam will be remembered as the single person who planned and oversaw the destruction of HK and its values.
kurisupisu
@ Burning Bush
You fail to acknowledge the initial cause of the violence in Hong Kong.
The administration in Hong Kong proposed a bill to allow the citizens of Hong Kong to be sent to the Chinese mainland and convicted by unelected officials!
MK Tam, director of Amnesty International Hong Kong-
"The courts will have very little power to reject any extradition request,"
China has no compunction against kidnapping Hong Kong citizens for speaking against the Chinese administration-it has done so already.
Freedom in Hong Kong must not be so easily lost...,
Toasted Heretic
This is Hong Kong and the regime in China is a different beast altogether.
Flowers won't stop the Beijing hooligans and murderers.
Akie
That is the freedom of expression.
Akie
kurisupisu, this planet has thousands of similar laws like the one HK tried to illegalize. Does this planet become violent ? If you want to be a terrorist, you have many reasons for that. You are pro-democratic freedom fighter, are you not ?
Strangerland
Chinese law, not chosen by the people, nor having any input from the people, nor oversight for the people, means that Chinese law deserves no respect from the people.
The Chinese laws are empty. The people of HK cannot afford to lay down their freedom for laws that a few people made up to further their own power and control over the people.
Toasted Heretic
Nice sentiment but once again, complete confusion over the regime in Beijing. They are an authoritarian and totalitarian government, and thus, have perverted the ideals of communism.
Wolfpack
Its getting really ugly now. I don’t see a good ending to this.
Strangerland
You may be right - it's likely only a matter of time before the CPP starts executing protestors in the streets like they did at Tienanmen Square.
Toasted Heretic
I really hope not. Beijing went to great lengths to make sure that horrible piece of history has been erased from the collective psyche and memory. I don't think they'll make the same mistake.
Rather, the process will be gradual - online support for their tactics, smearing of protesters and agent provocateurs.