New York subpoenas ex-Trump attorney Cohen in Trump Foundation probe

There's no excuse for that kind of behavior.

It's coming...closer..

Tick tock...

No, that is the sound of a clock.

This article is actually about a new set of criminal allegations being formally pursued against the president in addition to the ones that dominated yesterday’s headlines.

I know it is hard to believe but that is actually bad news fot Trump, not good news. I keep a set of handy flashcards on hand to help remind me of this distinction:

Crime = bad

No crime = good

Its useful since you can give yourself mini quizes every once in a while to stay fresh. Trump should make a set.

filed a lawsuit against President Donald Trump, three of his children and his foundation in June, saying Trump had illegally used the nonprofit as a personal “checkbook” for his own benefit, including his 2016 presidential campaign.

I'm not a lawyer and lack knowledge of the legality of this. In my opinion lawyers have far too much power in the US. Still, the judiciary in general is critical to maintaining the bits of democracy the US has remaining. Let the courts decide if they're willing to accept the findings of the intelligence agencies.

I have to think posters who come from nation's governed by corrupt authoritarian regimes would have trouble understanding the seriousness of the numerous allegations leveled at Trump, his family and so many of those he's done business with. If they compare this corruption to 'unpaid parking tickets' it's pretty clear they're accustomed to dealing with corruption at a much greater level, perhaps the kind of corruption found primarily in kleptocracies where predatory capitalists are allowed to go unchecked. As long as they continue to provide kickbacks to the kleptocrat and his oligarchs.

Our president is untouchable.

A phrase that is exclusively used to described criminals like Al Capone and John Gotti who would in fact eventually end up dying in prison.

Sorry that the legal process is boring you but don’t worry, the pace is picking up even as we speak.

@burningbush Give us at least a rough timeline.

Once again, the US isn't Russia (not yet, at least) or China where show trials are conducted and quickly finished.

This is a serious investigation being conducted to find facts and truth (not using the Trump definitions) to ensure justice is served. GoTrumpers from the US and abroad should know by now that the US democratic system, call it a republic if you want, is premised on separation and balance of powers. Most Americans don't want to see a Putin-type leader ruling on what should be decisions made by the courts.

If Cohen goes to prison that’s his own undoing.

burbbush Give us at least a rough timeline.

Rich coming from a poster whose timeline regarding Russia's martial involvements in Syria was so whack.

3 years ago: 'The Russians are in Syria so the fighting will soon be over.'

3 years later and the fighting continues. 3 years would be 'soon' in geologic time.

“Says who”

NY STATE - I hope you succeed to lock up the entire Trump family for years. 

There is not a charitable bone in any of the trump family's bodies. Even the mafia cared about their closest associates and families. This Trump clan would eat their best friends for a snack.

Our president is untouchable.

You say "our"? I presume you mean to refer to Trump and not Putin.

Fortunately justice will catch up with Trump. He is a crook and had surrounded himself by crooks. He has fired everyone else and at some point upset the whole of the American establishment with his absurd actions and statements.

He has a lot of stuff to hide, few friends and lots of people out there to bring him down.

Tick tock - the sound of the impeachment clock.

Give us at least a rough timeline.

Before the end of his term in office. I hope that is rough enough for you.

Looking good for vice president Pence.

If Cohen goes to prison that’s his own undoing.

The only way Cohen isn't going to prison is if he dishes out enough dirt on Trump that they give him a suspended sentence or house arrest. And even that's pretty doubtful - he's almost definitely going to spend some time in jail.

Dissecting that rotten sham of a "charity" will no doubt reveal facts that will simultaneously fascinate and horrify.

A phrase that is exclusively used to described criminals like Al Capone and John Gotti who would in fact eventually end up dying in prison.

The cheeto will eventually die in prison himself.

Fortunately justice will catch up with Trump.

How? What did he do wrong?

He is a crook and had surrounded himself by crooks. He has fired everyone else and at some point upset the whole of the American establishment with his absurd actions and statements. 

So then if that’s true, half of Washington should be indicted. We don’t have that many prisons.

He has a lot of stuff to hide, few friends and lots of people out there to bring him down. 

And so do the Democrats, in fact, they have a lot more to hide.

Tick tock - the sound of the impeachment clock

Yes, but if that were to happen, the Republicans won’t remove him, so don’t worry.

sorry. The state’s attorney general, Barbara Underwood, filed a lawsuit against President Donald Trump, three of his children and his foundation in June, saying Trump had illegally used the nonprofit as a personal “checkbook” for his own benefit, including his 2016 presidential campaign. It means Mr Trump clearly committed perjury any sensible man say if he misused 'charitable trust fund' is supposed to have been misused. I like to know under what article a sitting president cannot be subpheoad , a sitting president ought to be punished if he cheated the voters any man of common sense would say. if he cannot be punished, who cab be punished, super felon need to face i believe as a consitutional lawyer. any way country cannot be at ransom, as his connections seem to be several decades with him supporting him obvious it is quid pro qua idea, else Russians help at the level of president Putin when he visited crimea he said my American friend helped me he said, Ukraine seemed to have issued a statement at Kiev its territorial integrity and sovereignty were badly affected. How Putin can get so much support from trump then though crimea is under Russian occupation and completely annexed to Russia...i wonder how American voters support a person who connection are linked to Russian Mafia obvious intrusion in the sovereignty of the USA, if so how a felon like president can be president obvious he committed treason if judiciously thought... i wonder so many voters are against the the rule of law of the US! sorry again without any malice on any .

Bass: Yes, but if that were to happen, the Republicans won’t remove him, so don’t worry.

You seem pretty concerned that they will charge him with perjury.

You seem pretty concerned that they will charge him with perjury.

No, I’m not concerned, really because it’s not an impeachable offense. I just laugh at how the Koi are chasing feed and then get suckered into thinking food was tossed when it wasn’t.

Reminder: An "impeachable offense" is whatever Congress decides.

I've been hearing the "we got him now" comments on a weekly basis for the past 18 months.

How long did it take to get Nixon? Someone told me recently it was years from the Watergate break-ins to the end of the investigations.

How long did it take to get Gotti and Capone? (nods to rainyday)

Justice is slow, but steady. And the convictions are starting to snowball.

While I think the press is gloating a bit prematurely what Cohen knows, even if it has nothing to do with Russia, could give Trump some real problems. Cohen was thrown under the bus and it looks like he's going to have his pound of flesh too.

Trump admitted to routing money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. He specifically said to Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt that...Trump's words, 'Did they come from the campaign? They came from me. I tweeted about it. I don't know if you know, but I tweeted about the payments'.

Trump, in his often misguided ignorance, doesn't seem to know, that if he routes his money through the campaign, there is no legal issue, but acknowledging he paid them, was illegal. The president will not be indicted, but Melania has to be completely embarrassed by extramarital proof that Trump has cheated repeatedly on her, and he's scrambling, as guilty people do.

Does anyone else think it's weird that supporters of the Trump regime keep trying to distract from the fact that the people he chose to surround himself with are overwhelmingly involved in criminal activities? How much of the kool-aid do you have to drink to make "Neener-neener! You haven't impeached him yet!" not sound pathetic and sad?

LagunaToday  09:01 am JST

Reminder: An "impeachable offense" is whatever Congress decides.

Reminders are wasted on some of these people. They'll go on writing the same a--kissing rubbish no matter what because they're either deliberately or actually stupid.

Mueller is moving up the ladder. Five guilties so far, and no end in sight.

I've been hearing the "we got him now" comments on a weekly basis for the past 18 months.  Nothing ever sticks to Trump.  Our president is untouchable.

Ever notice how Trump supporters sound just like the average North Korean when describing their "Dear Leader" - "He's a God", "He's infallible", "He's untouchable"...  Pretty accurate phrases for describing a dictator and tyrant...

Trumpsters heads are exploding all over America as more and more criminal activity is uncovered; Manafort guilty, Cohen guilty, Gates guilty, Flynn guilty, Papadapolous guilty.  They ought to make orange jump suits the official uniform of the White House.

Cohen yesterday implicated Trump in "coordinating and directing" the payment of hush money to influence an election, now Cohen's records will blow the lid off the Trump Foundation and its corruption and links to organized crime.

It's so bad that law professor Jonathon Turley, a usual Trump supporter, called Trump an unindicted co-conspirator on Fox News yesterday.

And it's only going to get worse.

Trump is better than penge or haily

Mueller's doing really good so far and he's as quiet as a mouse as he continues with this highly important investigation. He's like a modern day version of the Lone Ranger. No wonder Trump is nervous.

You ain't seen nothin' yet. Stay tuned.

Ever notice how Trump supporters sound just like the average North Korean when describing their "Dear Leader" - "He's a God", "He's infallible", "He's untouchable"...  Pretty accurate phrases for describing a dictator and tyrant...

Trump worship is a messianic cult. The leader can do no wrong. There is an answer for everything, even if it is illogical and holds about as much water as a sieve. A completely inability to see facts objectively. A belief that ordinary laws don't apply to the leader.

Impeachment of Trump will depend on the elections. Democrats cannot run on an impeachment call, but if they did, there certainly would be a lot of supporters. However, it would be from their base, and they have to sway the neutrals to electing democrats. If they can give the message that Trump is corrupt and can be impeached, without directly saying so, it could sway the neutrals, who will not care to see impeachment as a reason to vote democrat, but can be influenced. The voters must come out and the way to go about that is not being anti Trump, but focus on the lives and needs of their constituents, and from there, I believe, the idea that Trump is corrupt, will come out, anyways.

Keep it cool, dems, but make sure the message has clarity, as well.

NY STATE - I hope you succeed to lock up the entire Trump family for years.

The likelihood of that happening is as high as me becoming POTUS.

There is not a charitable bone in any of the trump family's bodies. 

No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None.

Even the mafia cared about their closest associates and families. This Trump clan would eat their best friends for a snack.

That’s one thing I do respect a out Democrats, they will lie, cheat and fall on the sword for each other. No wonder most of the mob guys voted Democrat.

No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None.

That's quite an amazing statement - that general declaration covers the Defense Intelligence Agency, the CIA, the FBI, the Intel organizations of the four military services, Dept of Homeland Security, US Coast Guard, the Intel sections of police departments throughout the country, and many others - and this poster says none of them have a shred of honesty. This poster also used the phrase "scum" in a previous post to describe these same organizations.

Our Intel professionals work 24/7, many in dangerous overseas locations, to obtain information to keep us and our families safe.  At CIA HQs, there is a wall with the names of 129 CIA officers that have given their life in the performance of their duty. 

How could any patriotic American ever say such a thing?  The answer - they couldn't.

That's quite an amazing statement - that general declaration covers the Defense Intelligence Agency, the CIA, the FBI, the Intel organizations of the four military services, Dept of Homeland Security, US Coast Guard, the Intel sections of police departments throughout the country, and many others - and this poster says none of them have a shred of honesty. 

Particularly, the CIA and FBI specifically.

This poster also used the phrase "scum" in a previous post to describe these same organizations.

They are, not the rank and file, but the top echelon, yes.

Our Intel professionals work 24/7, many in dangerous overseas locations, to obtain information to keep us and our families safe. At CIA HQs, there is a wall with the names of 129 CIA officers that have given their life in the performance of their duty. 

I wasn’t talking about the honest rank and file men and women.

How could any patriotic American ever say such a thing? The answer - they couldn't.

I feel the same about the left and their feeble attempt to topple a duly elected President.

lincolnmanToday  09:50 am JST

Trumpsters heads are exploding all over America as more and more criminal activity is uncovered; Manafort guilty, Cohen guilty, Gates guilty, Flynn guilty, Papadapolous guilty. They ought to make orange jump suits the official uniform of the White House.

It does make me kind of wonder how someone who, in spite of promising to hire only the best people for his administration, has actually been surrounded by so many crooks can be completely innocent himself. Was he just that dumb he had no idea what any of them were up to?

lincolnmanToday  11:16 am JST

"No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None."

That's quite an amazing statement - that general declaration covers the Defense Intelligence Agency, the CIA, the FBI, the Intel organizations of the four military services, Dept of Homeland Security, US Coast Guard, the Intel sections of police departments throughout the country, and many others - and this poster says none of them have a shred of honesty.

Some people can only seem to think in terms of big, vague generalisations - good, bad, black, white, left, right, liberal, conservative... that's why it's pointless discussing anything with them.

"Don't worry - prison isn't prison."

-R. Giuliani

Haha, nice.

Although a little ironic, as the jails these criminals will be going to will probably be more like a country club than a jail.

I wasn’t talking about the honest rank and file men and women.

Yes you were:

No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None.

You were very clear there is no honesty whatsoever in the entire intelligence community. Those 'scum'.

Bass4funk: Particularly, the CIA and FBI specifically.

Jeeze. Do you take a knee at football games?

They are, not the rank and file, but the top echelon, yes.

Sessions and Rosenstein, both Republican, both appointed by Trump? I don’t believe it. They alone have the power to end Mueller’s witch hunt.

Trump is going to be busy passing out pardons like Taco Tuesday. Lol

It does make me kind of wonder how someone who, in spite of promising to hire only the best people for his administration, has actually been surrounded by so many crooks can be completely innocent himself. 

Birds of a feather flock together

A man is known by the company he keeps

Sessions and Rosenstein, both Republican,

Working for their Democrat masters, so what’s your point?

both appointed by Trump? I don’t believe it.

And was fired under the recommendation of Rosenstein who launched the investigation to have his friend, Mueller come in who is close friends with....James Comey. 3 corrupt peas in a pod.

They alone have the power to end Mueller’s witch hunt.

Looks like that might come soon.

Trump is clearly unaware of both the severity and legal implications of the troubles he's in as evidenced from his face-palm, Giulianiesqe comment on Whatever & Friends: He stated the money to pay for silence from the two women he had affairs with came from his own pocket, not from his campaign.

Two problems with this:

If it had come from his campaign, it would have been legal (though would have had to be immediately reported, and avoiding that was the entire purpose of the payments); whether such unreported payments from his own pockets was legal is murky.

Where did the money come from? Cohen being subpeond by the New York State prosecutor regarding the Trump Foundation is not a good sign for Trump.

Trump might well have broken a series of laws simultaneously. And he is his own worst lawyer.

No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None.

Particularly, the CIA and FBI specifically.

They are, not the rank and file, but the top echelon, yes.

I wasn’t talking about the honest rank and file men and women.

Nope, no parsing it now Bass - you said it and you own it. We all know now what you think of our hard working intel folks, many in uniform - you think they have no honesty and they're scum...

Not caring what someone did, but caring about what they can get away with, or what they can be pardoned for, is as good an example of the expression ‘moral bankruptcy’ as I can think of.

This is more than a swamp. It’s also a pandemic from a swamp infecting people.

Not caring what someone did, but caring about what they can get away with, or what they can be pardoned for, is as good an example of the expression ‘moral bankruptcy’ as I can think of.

It's hyper-extreme partisanship. To these people, it's more important to win points for their team, than it is to live in a lawful society.

Trump is clearly unaware of both the severity and legal implications of the troubles he's in as evidenced from his face-palm, Giulianiesqe comment on Whatever & Friends:

I’ll take Dershowitz 50 years credentials over anyone on JT.

He stated the money to pay for silence from the two women he had affairs with came from his own pocket, not from his campaign.

Ok and where’s the crime? And the President? Lol

I'm so happy to listen to someone with real knowledge that will cut through the political BS. I feel so much better.

https://youtu.be/9Z6gbnuAgI0

https://youtu.be/iv6Ug3-V7KI

Nope, no parsing it now Bass - you said it and you own it.

No, I said, specifically the top echelon of the CIA and FBI. IDo believe and respect the rank and file men and women of the organization, always have and always will. So yes, I do own it.

We all know now what you think of our hard working intel folks, many in uniform

Sorry, you don’t. You don’t even know what I had for lunch today. Lol

Trump is going to be busy passing out pardons like Taco Tuesday. Lol

You find that funny? Admirable?

Trumpsters care not a whit for law and justice. Just as they care not a whit for dedicated professionals in the intelligence agencies. Nor for the integrity of democratic institutions, reasoned political discourse, or truth.

They only care if their cult leader wins.

This is very, very bad for the future of America.

You got the two for one special at Taco Bull. Amazing that you fit your yacht with the private helicopter in their parking lot.

No, I said, specifically the top echelon of the CIA and FBI. IDo believe and respect the rank and file men and women of the organization, always have and always will. So yes, I do own it.

Your quote is below and is in black and white..

No, there isn’t a shred of honesty in the intelligence community. None.

You even added "None" just so we would know you included everyone.  Man up, and admit what you said.

For the other Trump Supporters here - I assume you agree with fellow Trump supporter Bass and think our men and women helping protect our country have no honesty and are scum?

plasticmonkeyToday  12:50 pm JST

Trump is going to be busy passing out pardons like Taco Tuesday. Lol

You find that funny? Admirable?

Trumpsters care not a whit for law and justice. Just as they care not a whit for dedicated professionals in the intelligence agencies. Nor for the integrity of democratic institutions, reasoned political discourse, or truth.

They only care if their cult leader wins.

This is very, very bad for the future of America.

Not to mention that a person can only be pardoned if they commit a crime. This is tantamount to bass admitting he really does believe people in Trump's orbit did commit crimes, but that he doesn't care because those crimes are politically expedient to him and make everyone not a part of his political team angry.

sunfunbunToday  10:56 am JST

Impeachment of Trump will depend on the elections. Democrats cannot run on an impeachment call,

Why not? Even the latest FOX News poll gives majority approval to Mueller.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403161-poll-mueller-approval-rating-jumps-by-11-points

People are usually judged by the company they keep and from the looks of things trumpy is surrounded by crooks, criminals and lowlife scum, so are trumpettes trying to have us believe that he is spotless and that through all his dealings has not one ounce of dirt on him.

Trumpsters care not a whit for law and justice.

No, sorry, that would be the Democrats and they haven’t since 1992.

Just as they care not a whit for dedicated professionals in the intelligence agencies.

Funny, during the last 8 years the left couldn’t stand the ground these people walk on and the same goes for 1998 and now all of a sudden the left believe these people are the Saints of integrity, virtue and honesty? ROFL! Good one!

Nor for the integrity of democratic institutions, reasoned political discourse, or truth.

That’s why we are getting two conservative SC justices to fix this mess and country for the next 40 years, maybe a third as well.

They only care if their cult leader wins.

Well, the libs would care if there person wins and right now, they don’t have one. Oops!

This is very, very bad for the future of America

If the Dems socialists take over, yes, sir!

I'm not even sure socialism could fix the US at this stage. After this latest subversion of democracy by a crime family and its willing supporters, perhaps the US needs to be occupied by UN peacekeepers to prevent civil war and ensure democracy can be restored. Maybe then we can talk about socialism or anarcho-syndicalism.

Sorry, you don’t. You don’t even know what I had for lunch today. Lol

Same as always. Piss and vinegar. Lol

I'm not even sure socialism could fix the US at this stage.

No, it would completely decimate the country.

After this latest subversion of democracy by a crime family and its willing supporters,

The Democrat party

perhaps the US needs to be occupied by UN peacekeepers to prevent civil war and ensure democracy can be restored.

If the Marxist and socialists try, the only thing that they have going for them is the ocean, they control that, the million dollar yachts and the vegan foods. Middle America has the meat, the ammo, the medicine and most of the agriculture. I don’t think it would be wise for the Socialists to try anything. Lol

Maybe then we can talk about socialism or anarcho-syndicalism

Will never happen.

No, it would completely decimate the country.

It's already decimated. The corrupt rich ruling class are unable to grasp that. Which will be their undoing.

The Democrat party

By crime family, I'm referring to the Trump junta, as well you know. Good deflection, though.

I don’t think it would be wise for the Socialists to try anything. Lol

The UN peacekeepers aren't socialists unless you know something the rest of us don't?

Will never happen.

In a democracy, anything can happen. Power comes from the people - it belongs to the people. The corrupt elitists, the jet-setters and profit-making partisans will eventually come to realise this.

It's already decimated.

Since 2011

The corrupt rich ruling class are unable to grasp that. Which will be their undoing.

Ok, so now poor people should provide jobs? Government can’t do it, they can’t even control our borders.

By crime family, I'm referring to the Trump junta, as well you know. Good deflection, though. 

So they murdered and dismembered people? If they did, I’ll apologize to you sincerely for being wrong.

The UN peacekeepers aren't socialists unless you know something the rest of us don't?

They can’t even pay for themselves? Without the US they would be overwhelmed and overrun in a day.

In a democracy, anything can happen.

Yes, but it won’t happen in the US. I guarantee it.

Power comes from the people - it belongs to the people. The corrupt elitists, the jet-setters and profit-making partisans will eventually come to realise this.

Then, if you are an American, you should be glad Trump is our President, my point exactly, you hit the needle on the head.

Then, if you are an American, you should be glad Trump is our President, my point exactly, you hit the needle on the head.

If you're going to continue misrepresenting and twisting my posts, there's little point in continuing the discussion, is there?

However, I'll try one more time. Your "president" is the epitome of corruption. He has not drained the swamp, he has expanded it, way beyond the Potomac.

Cronyism, nepotism and profit above people are the hallmarks of this administration. Sure, it happens a lot, no matter who's in power but it's never been as naked as this. The junta is laughing and lying to the US people on a daily basis.

Do you really think that there will be no repercussions?

Best read up on some history, in that case.

bass4funk: "Then, if you are an American, you should be glad Trump is our President, my point exactly, you hit the needle on the head."

Only if you hate your country. No TRUE American loves Trump and believes in or respects the US. They are either uneducated, white supremacists, or simply love themselves and how much money he makes them while he destroys the nation.

If you're going to continue misrepresenting and twisting my posts, there's little point in continuing the discussion, is there?

I think you were making a political accusation. Nothing was twisted.

However, I'll try one more time. Your "president" is the epitome of corruption. He has not drained the swamp, he has expanded it, way beyond the Potomac. 

And many of us feel the same if not worse about the Democrats and their mafia enablers in the intelligence community.

Cronyism, nepotism and profit above people are the hallmarks of this administration.

If nepotism is a crime constitutionally where?

Sure, it happens a lot, no matter who's in power but it's never been as naked as this.

That is absolutely not true, in fact it was worse 8 years ago, but the media were totally incognito and then all of a sudden, they woke up from their slumber and can’t get whatevernews they can get out fast enough.

The junta is laughing and lying to the US people on a daily basis.

The left is not only laughing, but daring for anyone to do anything unless you want to pay the reaper.

Do you really think that there will be no repercussions?

Yup, at least not in the way the left wants, because whatever happens the left are really screwed, either Trump goes to second term which seems very likely or if there were a Pence Presidency then the left are hopelessly screwed because not only would the Trump agenda continue, but with a more precise religious agenda. Not only do I know my history, but I see a checkmate strategy if the Dems were to be that foolish. For once they should listen to Pelosi.

Only if you hate your country.

Liberals hate their country, ask Andrew Cuomo, Adam Levine, Johnny Depp and most rappers or even Mike Ness.

No TRUE American loves Trump and believes in or respects the US.

I would greatly beg to differ. If liberals loved their country, they wouldn’t be weak on immigration, defense, reject globalization and respect the middle class. Try to destroy the history, dismantle historical monuments, support the delegitimization of the US. What they do is the exact opposite.

They are either uneducated, white supremacists, or simply love themselves and how much money he makes them while he destroys the nation.

Well, if that wasn’t a comical grand over the top racist generalization if I ever heard one, ROFL!

bass4funk: "And many of us feel the same if not worse about the Democrats and their mafia enablers in the intelligence community."

Sorry, bud, but so far one convicted criminal against his not guilty plea, several guilty pleas, many fired, many quit... Trump took a dump on the swamp and put it out in the sun after covering it with saran wrap. There has never in history been a bigger swamp in the US than the one Trump has created. It's fact... and not alternative fact.

"The left is not only laughing"

At your defense of the indefensible, yes. "Truth isn't truth"! hahaha.

"because whatever happens the left are really screwed"

It's your country that's screwed, bud, and you're cheering for its destruction. That's the opposite of patriotism, it's selling your country out. Not a surprise for people who follow a president who commits treason.

bass4funk: "Well, if that wasn’t a comical grand over the top racist generalization if I ever heard one, ROFL!"

There's the nervous laughter that proves I'm right. Now, tell me where my comment is racist, my friend. Is calling white supremacists -- who support Trump, such as David Duke -- white supremacists racist? Is calling someone uneducated, and it has been proven the majority of uneducated voters voted for Trump, racist?

"Liberals hate their country"

Ah, the sandbox retort. And here you pretend to be in the media. Sorry, bud, but the liberals love their country. Trump and his supporters hate it and think only of themselves and their Russian comrades. They support a dictator more than their own intelligence communities, and listen to a proven racist, lying network (one you claim to have worked for) over every single other media network in the country and world.

Liberals hate their country, ask Andrew Cuomo, Adam Levine, Johnny Depp and most rappers or even Mike Ness.

Donald Trump interviewed by Bill O'Reilly on 4 Feb 2017: “There are a lot of killers. We have a lot of killers,” Trump said. “Well, you think our country is so innocent?”

I would greatly beg to differ. If liberals loved their country, they wouldn’t be weak on immigration, defense, reject globalization and respect the middle class. Try to destroy the history, dismantle historical monuments, support the delegitimization of the US. What they do is the exact opposite.

If Trump Supporters (note I didn't say conservatives) loved their country, they wouldn't try to demolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights, they wouldn't kow-tow, bow, and scrape to Putin, they wouldn't say about White Supremacists "Some are good people", and they wouldn't call those brave Americans, many in uniform, helping secure our country from threats "dishonest"" and "scum".....

bass4funk: "I would greatly beg to differ."

You'd still be dead wrong.

"If liberals loved their country, they wouldn’t be weak on immigration, defense, reject globalization and respect the middle class."

They wouldn't respect the middle class? I guess you're right about Trump not doing that at all. He does only respect the upper class, giving himself billions in tax breaks.

"Try to destroy the history"

How have they done that? by not saying "there were good people on both sides"? By saying presidents that weren't even born when Trump claims they did something is false? It's not the Dems who are trying to rewrite history. Only you guys are, especially saying things like "Slavery was when America was great" (and you supported the man who did with Roy Moore, as just an example, and certainly the president supported him), by being a racist like Trump is and lying about history? Why is it you just take the exact things you espouse and claim others are committing the acts? and then deny it?

As if Trump's racism and white nationalist tendencies needs proving, he just tweeted a white supremacist talking point about South Africa. hahaha. You can't make this stuff up!

Sorry, bud, but so far one convicted criminal against his not guilty plea, several guilty pleas, many fired, many quit...

You still can’t generalize.This is why the left get in trouble always, they think like lemmings, so it’s natural they think everyone does the same thing, all the time, every time.

Trump took a dump on the swamp

Because it’s so saturated with Democrats.

It's your country that's screwed, bud,

I agree, if we don’t get these corrupt Democrats out of office we are indeed screwed.

and you're cheering for its destruction. That's the opposite of patriotism, it's selling your country out.

Please Talk to Cuomo, Penn, Madonna, Levine, Depp, O’Donnell, Moore, Handler about that, they are the people you need to convince not me, I love my country. They wanted to leave the US and I would gladly buy them all a one way ticket if that helps the situation.

You'd still be dead wrong. 

No, not at all.

They wouldn't respect the middle class?

They didn’t do anything for them over the last 8 years or do you see a Democrat President in the WH?

I guess you're right about Trump not doing that at all. He does only respect the upper class, giving himself billions in tax breaks. 

How many jobs can poor people provide? I love the rich, without the rich, most people here wouldn’t have a job. Job creators are not poor, nor should they be. Personally, I wouldn’t want anything from the government.

How have they done that?

Watch the news please.

Trump claims they did something is false? It's not the Dems who are trying to rewrite history.

Taking down historical monuments is not preserving it.

Only you guys are, especially saying things like "Slavery was when America was great" (and you supported the man who did with Roy Moore, as just an example, and certainly the president supported him), by being a racist like Trump is and lying about history? Why is it you just take the exact things you espouse and claim others are committing the acts? and then deny it.

I’m sorry, but as usual, you guys lose an argument and it dissolves into something to do about race or racists. Is it possible to have a decent conversation without invoking the race card all the time? It’s just tedious. Liberals can only talk about race because they can’t talk about anything else, they can’t talk about the issues, so it’s back to racism, it’s the easiest cop out for them. Smh.

I love the rich,

Onanism and vanity. Of course the rich love themselves.

without the rich, most people here wouldn’t have a job.

Apart from co-operatives, self-employed, family businesses, community businesses and so on.

I’m sorry, but as usual, you guys lose an argument and it dissolves into something to do about race or racists

Usually because racism is a hallmark of your government. More now than in recent times.

Is it possible to have a decent conversation without invoking the race card all the time? It’s just tedious

Not as tedious as invoking the liberal card all the time, as per 99.99% of certain posters output

Liberals can only talk about race because they can’t talk about anything else

And there we have it.

Perhaps if your skank of a president wasn't such a racist, people wouldn't have to call it out.

Apart from co-operatives, self-employed, family businesses, community businesses and so on.

Thst as well, but they can’t provide thousands of jobs to people.

Usually because racism is a hallmark of your government. More now than in recent times.

I lived in Europe for 24 years, sorry, racism is not just the hallmark of my government, try again.

And there we have it.

Exactly, now if the left can get over their need to invoke race into every conversation, we might get somewhere.

Not at all, as usual, the left doesn’t get it. I keep forgetting humor is something lacking in today’s Liberal.

Yawn.

I've been hearing the "we got him now" comments on a weekly basis for the past 18 months.

Nothing ever sticks to Trump.

Our president is untouchable.

Trump is covered in crap that's stuck to him from wallowing in his Cesspool so, nobody in their right mind would want to touch him - other than to give him a final shove into his cell.

Trump keeps making easier for anyone who is investigating him. Now that immunity has been given to the National Enquirer boss and also to Trump's 'Charity' Organisation CFO Weisselberg, Trump is certainly touchable. He must be starting to wish Clinton had won the election and Trump could have just continued his philandering ways and dodgy business practices. Weisselberg is one of Trump's most trusted people who isn't a family member. Immunity means he has agreed to give info that is pertinent to Trump's dodgy charity and about Russian connections. He knows where all the money came from and went to. Then Mueller will release his reports soon and that will be the end of Trump. Kudos to Cohen for having the intelligence to plead guilty, admit his crimes and tell the truth about Trump. He confirmed what we all knew anyway.

If Cohen goes to prison that’s his own undoing.

same can be said of Trump, unfortunately Muellers got a lot more knots to unravel before he can ask congress impeach. going to prison well that'll have to wait until after he leaves office.

"Trump is covered in crap that's stuck to him from wallowing in his Cesspool" blah blah

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

"If Cohen goes to prison that’s his own undoing.

"same can be said of Trump," blah blah

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Oh my...

Lanny Davis Meghan Kelly interview: Michael Cohen Lawyer Says He’s Transformed? Riiiight...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUpNG8Bv85s

same can be said of Trump,

For what reason?

unfortunately Muellers got a lot more knots to unravel before he can ask congress impeach.

They impeach him and then what? The Senate won’t remove him.

going to prison well that'll have to wait until after he leaves office.

That probably won’t happen either. Now having to cough up some money, that’ll probably happen.