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Russia is targeting 2018 U.S. elections, U.S. intel chiefs say

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Russia is targeting 2018 U.S. elections, U.S. intel chiefs say

Is not the news. As the story says, we've known this was happening for a while. We have proof Russian sources penetrated US state voting systems. We know there was a propaganda campaign. Hell, you can come on JT and document it. There is zero reason to believe after the 2016 attacks were so successful that Russia would stop in 2018.

What's news is that our dotard President hasn't lifted one single stubby finger to stop it.

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Why is it NO ONE mentions the fact that the GOP funded the dossier first? Why is that tidbit not added as a reminder?

And please grill Pompeo and Coates about WHY they were meeting with 3 Russian spies, and nobody knew about it until Russia State tv mentions it.

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Give me a break. There is very little the Russians can do about US elections besides writing dossiers for the Democrats.

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This is just more click bait from the MSM. Everyone knows that US intelligence agencies are corrupt, incompetent, and favor the Dems. Just ask Trump and his uninformed, uber ignorant cheerleaders. Despite not working for the intelligence agencies and not having access to classified information, they know.

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News but not news. Our Russian chums have targetted France, Italy and the UK as well and continue to do so.

Some 27 countries over the last 14 years, apparently

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/09/07/alleged-russian-political-meddling-documented-27-countries-since-2004/619056001/

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Why is it NO ONE mentions the fact that the GOP funded the dossier first?

They do, but that has nothing to do with the ball being passed to the DNP paying millions for it, lying to a judge in order to obtain a FISA warrent to spy on a political opponent.

And please grill Pompeo and Coates about WHY they were meeting with 3 Russian spies, and nobody knew about it until Russia State tv mentions it.

I want them to grill McCabe, Strzok and Rosenstein and testify under oath about how and why the dossier was create, who knew exactly what and when.

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lying to a judge in order to obtain a FISA warrent to spy on a political opponent.

This statement in no way reflects reality.

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This statement in no way reflects reality.

Liberal reality, probably not.

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How can a topic about Russian interference end up being about liberals? Again?

Russian meddling is all about destabilizing countries. Seems like they've managed it pretty well.

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Liberal reality, probably not

Nope, just reality. You know, where everyone but certain conservatives reside. Those slconservstives reside in the unicornverse. ROFL.

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If Republicans cannot see this or refuse to do or say anything, then they get what they deserve. Start learning Russian.

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How can a topic about Russian interference end up being about liberals? Again?

Didn't you elude to it being about Republicans? Just a tad.

Russian meddling is all about destabilizing countries. Seems like they've managed it pretty well.

Yes, indeed.

Nope, just reality.

Yes, just liberal reality.

You know, where everyone but certain conservatives reside. Those slconservstives reside in the unicornverse. ROFL

Impossible, it’s too preoccupied by liberals.

One thing the Russians have been a master at is dividing the country and they’re about to do it again and all of the partisan bickering in the world won’t change that.

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One thing the Russians have been a master at is dividing the country and they’re about to do it again and all of the partisan bickering in the world won’t change that.

I agree 100% with this statement. It is odd coming from a hyper-partisan poster though.

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I can imagine Trump's speech....

"For the first time, the Russians are meddling in our elections. I will put an end to this new thing that started long after I won the election."

Or maybe focus on Obama? Hmmmm..... That might be his best option.

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I agree 100% with this statement. It is odd coming from a hyper-partisan poster though.

Oh, if that were only true.

Or maybe focus on Obama? Hmmmm..... That might be his best option.

It’s ok, the Bush derangement syndrome lasted for 7 years under the Liberals, patience my boy.

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Me:

I agree 100% with this statement. It is odd coming from a hyper-partisan poster though.

Bass:

Oh, if that were only true.

See my 10:40 post. Those quotes of your posts are from only two (2) pages of your total posts, of which there are over 400 pages.

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*Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said Russia

*”Frankly, the United States is under attack," he said

Curious how Trump supporters might view what Coats said, especially given the knowledge the man must have about ‘possible’ Russian involvement. I have to believe Coats, or at least key members of his staff, actually reads staff reports, as opposed to Trump who waits for a Fox ‘news’ entertainer to tell him what to think. 

It must be confusing for y’all. After all Trump has said (I know, maybe he was being sarcastic, maybe he was misquoted, maybe it’s fake news) he doesn’t believe Russia meddled.

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The Russians found a willing accomplice in Trump and now the larger GoP. Release the memo??? was perpetuated by the GoP and Russian paid trolls.

It is disheartening to see the GoP mice follow the Russian pied piper.

Russia will also be race bating left and right like they did during the presidential election. So easy because everyone is relying on social media for their news and opinion. The loudest and nuttiest tend to be the only ones heard.

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Me:

I agree 100% with this statement. It is odd coming from a hyper-partisan poster though.

Bass:

Oh, if that were only true.

Okay:

Liberalism indoctrination can be a shocking undertaking.

> The liberals on both side of the pond are trying their best to undermine democracy,

> But if you open the papers and watch the libs on TV jump up and down like “House of Pain” not only do you see stupid, but delusional behavior so far off, it’s almost scary.

> And Dems wouldn’t know the difference between a 9 to 5 job and waiting to collect government assistance.

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@ToastedH  Our Russian chums have targetted France, Italy and the UK as well and continue to do so.

Using the old Soviet whataboutery technique, let me answer for the Russia defenders: the US and all countries do and have done similar things.

It's interesting to me that the Russians have been alleged to have used groups like the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other rightist organizations, including white nationalist groups, to spread their messages. It's clear the Russias know Americans well enough to target which anti-American, anti-democracy groups to send their divisive messages.

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See my 10:40 post.

Yes and so what?

Curious how Trump supporters might view what Coats said, especially given the knowledge the man must have about ‘possible’ Russian involvement.

No one doubts about Russian involvement, both sides can agree to that, that was never the issue. The issue of Trump allegedly colluding with the Russians is proving to be a fading farce as far as that part of involvement is concerned.

I have to believe Coats, or at least key members of his staff, actually reads staff reports, as opposed to Trump who waits for a Fox ‘news’ entertainer to tell him what to think. 

FNC get the same information as the other news sources, they just don’t cherry pick, they take the pros and cons of the sources they receive hourly.

It must be confusing for y’all. After all Trump has said (I know, maybe he was being sarcastic, maybe he was misquoted, maybe it’s fake news) he doesn’t believe Russia meddled.

Every President wants to believe or downplay certain crisis whether they be foreign or domestic want to believe possibly and confidently and convey to the people, the optics of it is not what people try to make it out to be.

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@bas4 The issue of Trump allegedly colluding with the Russians is proving to be a fading farce

Do you have concrete proof?

Every President wants to believe or downplay certain crisis whether they be foreign or domestic want to believe possibly and confidently and convey to the people,

Are you saying Trump wants Americans to just accept that Russia's meddling in US elections, that the American people should stay calm, shouldn't worry about it? And do you seriously think the majority of Americans have even the tiniest ability to believe one word Trump says.

FNC get the same information as the other news sources, they just don’t cherry pick, they take the pros and cons of the sources they receive hourly.

Is this an example of a con's attempt at humor? ROFL & SMH

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Oh this is so crazy. Are adults these days so absolutely ignorant to think the NSA isn't doing the same thing every friggen country?

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Oh this is so crazy. Are adults these days so absolutely ignorant to think the NSA isn't doing the same thing every friggen country?

Has anyone stated that they don’t?

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Has anyone stated that they don’t?

It's a comment on the MSM propoganda. Sorry if it wasn't obvious.

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Do you have concrete proof?

And no one else including the FBI otherwise The nooses would have been knotted.

Are you saying Trump wants Americans to just accept that Russia's meddling in US elections, that the American people should stay calm, shouldn't worry about it?

Maybe, but that’s in his head, Carter thought that the planet will plunge into darkness, Reagan thought we had to satiate the planet with nukes, Clinton thought we should involve ourselves in Somalia, Bush thought the would didn’t need Saddam (and he was right about that) and Obama got bogged down with Syria, especially when he didn’t follow his red line threat. Every President believed in something, sometimes they are right and sometimes not. You and I are not the President. They all have their own worldview as to what they think is right or wrong or which deserves immediate attention.

And do you seriously think the majority of Americans have even the tiniest ability to believe one word Trump says.

Yes, now the media, that’s an entirely different story.

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Is this an example of a con's attempt at humor? ROFL & SMH

No, we’re just born with the ability

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The issue of Trump allegedly colluding with the Russians is proving to be a fading farce as far as that part of involvement is concerned.

There is literally no way you can know this unless you are omniscient as none of the investigations have been concluded.

FNC get the same information as the other news sources, they just don’t cherry pick, they take the pros and cons of the sources they receive hourly.

That's the funniest thing you've ever posted, and demonstrates further your hyper-partisanship.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

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Everybody in the intelligence community is aware of this crisis except for Number One, who has his head buried in the sand.

Here we go again.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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Oh this is so crazy. Are adults these days so absolutely ignorant to think the NSA isn't doing the same thing every friggen country?

The NSA collects intelligence. The FBI or CIA acts on it.

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There is literally no way you can know this unless you are omniscient as none of the investigations have been concluded.

You're right, but I can pretty much see the conclusion of it being a dude, just like it was with Clinton and lived and worked through that mess and it was just as serious and deep and controversial and in the end, it was a joke.

That's the funniest thing you've ever posted, and demonstrates further your hyper-partisanship.

Not really.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/heres-the-real-reason-why-fox-is-more-trusted-than-any-other-news-network/

Wishful thinking.

Funny, where’s the Calvary?

Now you know what Trump is thinking? That's impossible unless you're omniscient

And yet, day in and day out liberals seem to think they know? Omniscient......not me, definitely not me.

The fun thing about challenging a certain poster for evidence is watching that person come up with every excuse in the book as to why they won't provide the evidence they claim to have.

Right back at you.

My two favorite excuses are: (1) It would take too much time to cut and paste examples, and (2) You just wouldn't believe the sources anyway.

And to stray off topic and get ding from the Mods? What for?

Of course, we all know this poster failing to provide their evidence means that that poster has zero evidence.

Right back at you, but I’m cool with it. It’s what the libs do.

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Well, it’s certainly true that Russian meddling has gotten Americans at each other’s throats. I just don’t understand why they play along with Putin’s game. This whole thing got started by Russian agents going after American business men, like Page, and by Russian disinformation funneled into Hillary’s opposition research operation.

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The NSA collects intelligence. The FBI or CIA acts on it.

So what is the point of this article? Telling us something we already know or brianwashing us into thinking some country is bad and we are good. Grow up!

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I just don’t understand why they play along with Putin’s game.

its the Dems and the MSM playing this game. Not Americans.

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So FOX News is not American?

its a corporation.

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so are all the MSM corporations?

But do Americans work there?

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so are all the MSM corporations?

Yes

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so are all the MSM corporations?

Have you ever seen an anti war MSM?

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Woah, even MORE COLLUSION! Heaven knows the Republicans are desperate -- as things stand now, they are going to be VOTED OUT IN DROVES!

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Woah, even MORE COLLUSION! Heaven knows the Republicans are desperate -- as things stand now, they are going to be VOTED OUT IN DROVES!

Apparently not if Putin secretly infiltrates the deplorable Appalachian mountain chain and pays off millions of American citizens. LOL

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So FOX NEWS is not American but a corporation with its largest shareholders Australian and Saudi, Rupert Murdoch and Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Murdoch is American, thank God.

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Using the term MSM in my opinion is downright lazy

Then maybe you need a lesson on how the corporate world works. It's not a friggen secret. Back to the headline.How about the CIA's involvement in the Kiev coup? Maybe you're just so ambivalent? I don't know.

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This link:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/heres-the-real-reason-why-fox-is-more-trusted-than-any-other-news-network/

explains why Fox is trusted. It does not support the assertion that Fox is less bias than any other outlet.

Right back at you.

Any time you challenge me, I provide evidence.

And to stray off topic and get ding from the Mods? What for?

This is another great excuse for not providing evidence to support an assertion.

Right back at you, but I’m cool with it. It’s what the libs do.

Again, any time you challenge me, I provide evidence. Since you think otherwise, cut and paste examples of me providing excuses instead of evidence.

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its the Dems and the MSM playing this game. Not Americans.

So the hosts on Fox and the people at Breitbart and the conservatives on these threads that sling partisan shite aren't American?

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Fizz: Yes, the CIA has been involved in coups. Happy now?

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So the hosts on Fox and the people at Breitbart

nope. Just corporations.

and the conservatives on these threads that sling partisan shite aren't American

Huh?

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Readers, please stop bickering.

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I don't need a friggen' lesson from you on how you continually state the MSM, but forget it also includes FOX Breitart, THe Wall St Journal and may other too.

Ok for the record. Please list an MSM that didn't support Bush's or Obama's wars? I'm waiting.

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Liberal reality, probably not.

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias".

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 I just don’t understand why they play along with Putin’s game.

Because we have a bunch of people believing everything Trump says without question even though he is bats!t crazy and prefers lies over the truth.

A president needs to lead and create some common effort, but he feeds off being divisive and personal gain.

We also have a fearful GoP that is afraid of a special prosecutor investigation upsetting their only presidential win in the last three elections and afraid of losing power to voters, because of successful challenges to gerrymandering, and a disconnection with their core voters (the so-called party of no deficits just created a doozy of a deficit) and young voters who can recognize a liar.

The GoP and legislature in general should be a check on power, but they are acting as an enabler because of this fear.

Pretty soon people are going to realize they voted for Trump, the star of the Apprentice, which is a fiction far from the truth and created by TV producers. Only the hair is "real".

Trump the man baby is reality, and cadet bone spurs doesn't have what it takes to lead the country.

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@zichi Have you ever seen an anti war MSM?

I don't know what that means

I've found the site below has some good definitions of terms like 'deep state', 'globalist', 'MSM', etc. Those terms are used today similarly to the way they were used in the 1930's.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alt-right_glossary

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we all know that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government. The mystery is how the government kept all the participants quiet.

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When it comes to war we just can't trust any American president or the weapon corporations seeking to export their weapons of mass destruction all over the globe.

Its true.

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Countries trying to destabilise each other? Happens all the time. Shouldn't be taken for granted, whoever is doing it.

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Its true.

Yet you trust the Donster. Hey, what's he doing with the "defense" budget? How many civilians has his administration bombed now?

I might actually agree with you if you got rid of the silly notion that Donny ain't a warmonger. And no, "he's not as bad as the other guy," doesn't cut it either.

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Yes, I believe he was born and raised in CA and more recently maybe Texas but basically for many years here in Japan. His claims go a little haywire sometimes.

I actually cut and pasted posts from him(?) where he made the various claims regarding where he(?) lives. Not sure whether that poster is male or female, though I suspect male.

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