Trump slams cities, states seeking U.S. aid to offset coronavirus losses

U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday slammed U.S. cities and states

after being reminded by his personal armies of lawyers, accountants and 'fixers' that Trump Inc (or whatever he calls his global empire) has loans due, and the bailout money (aka welfare/socialism for the rich) Trump/Ivanka/Jared will be getting probably won't be enough to cover them.

@PTownsend: and the bailout money (aka welfare/socialism for the rich) Trump/Ivanka/Jared will be getting probably won't be enough to cover them.

Wow - I didn’t know President Trump was getting a bailout from Nancy Pelosi for his company; haven’t read that anywhere in the most prominent news websites. Looking forward to hearing the details on that shocking turn of events.

Why don't the people and entities who need money just get small loan of a million dollars from their rich father?

Trump has been willing to splash the cash in the shape of tax cuts for the rich, yet when it comes to helping to pay for the biggest national health crisis for a century, suddenly he needs to count the pennies.

Wimpy whiny loser Donnie just doesn't want to help out anyone does he? He keeps howling for funds to build his stupid racist Berlin Wall and he even desecrated a Native American reservation and destroyed precious organ pipe cacti for that purpose earlier this year. Then CoVid-19, or as he childishly + churlishly keeps referring to as the 'Chinese virus' struck full force and offset his evil selfish plans. Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

I love the trump press briefings.

"Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) 

The Dems are seeking a bailout for the failed policies in the States and cities they have been running into the ground for decades. And they are seeking this bailout from the Federal government. A government that both Dems and Republicans have been running into the ground since the Johnson administration. At this point the insane $26 trillion national debt is threatening the entire nations economic prospects. There are just a small number of states that are going over the debt edge. A bailout will only facilitate the same stupidity at the state level that is going on nationally.

Trump slams cities, states seeking U.S. aid to offset coronavirus losses

Amen only Trump businesses should be allowed to seek aid from the government. ;)

Illinois has a huge pension problem that has nothing to do with COVID-19. They are trying to use the crisis to bail out their unfunded pension liabilities that they can never pay.

Trump was getting a bailout from Nancy Pelosi

Google: trump businesses get bailout money, find the source that fits your worldview.

And remember, Trump Inc (or whatever his global business empire is called) is in fact global. They're looking around the globe for help.

I love the trump press briefings.

They've probably helped the economy. Comedians have even higher ratings using his material, perhaps increasing network advertising revenue. youtube-rs and tik tok-ers have also made lots of money meme-ing his stand up routines. I imagine there will be even more 'can-you-believe-he-did/said-that' books coming out soon.

Illinois has a huge pension problem that has nothing to do with COVID-19. They are trying to use the crisis to bail out their unfunded pension liabilities that they can never pay.

Has nothing to do with Covid-19? Of course it does. Tax money is used to pay pensions. That tax money dries up because of Covid-19.

@takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com

There is a wikipedia page about the Illinois pension crisis. Here ya go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_pension_crisis

Anyone thinking Mitch McConnel has a point and/or is an honest politician, never forget this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/27/mitch-mcconnells-kentucky-has-been-getting-federal-bailout-money-years-thats-reality/

"In fact, however, if you look at the numbers from the Rockefeller Institute of Government, which tracks how much money each state sends to Washington and how much it gets back, you can see that McConnell’s home state of Kentucky gets a “Bluegrass State Bailout” of tens of billions of dollars every year.

For the four federal fiscal years that ended Sept. 30, 2018, the most recent numbers available, Kentucky got $148 billion more from the federal government than the Bluegrass State sent to Washington.

Meanwhile, New Jersey got $71.7 billion less than it sent, and New York got $116.2 billion less."

here is a wikipedia page about the Illinois pension crisis. Here ya go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_pension_crisis

As a native Illinoisan, I am well aware of the Illinois pension crisis. The last Republican administration's refusal to pass a budget for more than a year didn't help the pension crisis at all. Framing this as a money grab or partisan issue doesn't fly with me.

Whoever ordered the lockdowns is responsible for the fallout costs.

Oversimplifications of something as inordinately complex as the pandemic and consequent fallout costs are just that - oversimplifications. But that's to be expected from those who continue to encourage people they don't know and obviously have no regard for to resume their normal lifestyles and risk not only their health, but the health of who knows how many others.

The current occupant of the White House does not have an understanding of the difficulties the majority of the 50 states, as well as the counties and cities in each states, are experiencing. He doesn’t have the intellect to be President of the Uni- ted States of America (POTUS).

He continues his delusional statements regarding the availability of testing, which is part and partial of his main goal ... the nonstop reelection campaign which began on November 8, 2016.

"Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) and cities...

They bailed out the vampires in the banking system 10 years ago, the govt knows a sucker when they see one.

@takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com Democratic government Pritzker is probably more worried about getting his Hyatt bailout than the nursing home care workers that are going to go on strike over poor pay and dangerous working conditions they have to endure in Illinois dues to COVID-19 and a governor that doesn't think they are worth more than minimum wage.

 Democratic government Pritzker is probably more worried about getting his Hyatt bailout than the nursing home care workers that are going to go on strike over poor pay and dangerous working conditions they have to endure in Illinois dues to COVID-19 and a governor that doesn't think they are worth more than minimum wage.

You don't like Gov. Pritzker, I get it. But we're moving the goalposts here. None of that has anything to do with the fact that the economic impact of Covid-19 worsens the Illinois pension crisis.

"Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) and cities, in all cases Democrat run and managed, when most of the other states are not looking for bailout help? 

Good question. Sigh... we have no choice but to bail them out. Take NYC, one of the most corrupt cities in the world. If we let NYC collapse, it's bad for the country. Hopefully New Yorkers will finally wake up and vote out their corrupt politicians.

Trump has been willing to splash the cash in the shape of tax cuts for the rich

Everyone who pays taxes got a tax cut. It helped create the greatest economy the world has ever known.

Take NYC, one of the most corrupt cities in the world.

Please post credible sources to prove your point.

Like posted earlier, NY is one of the states that pays way more than it receives in federal funding. The complete opposite of Kentucky or Maryland.

It helped create the greatest economy the world has ever known.

You keep repeating that empty talking point, so I'm gonna disprove it again:

Trump doesn't even have the best economy in the history of his own country.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

"For 2019, the data shows an annual average growth of 2.3%, ending the year at 2.1% for the fourth quarter.

This is significantly less than the 5.5% peak achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency."

"After inflation is taken into account, real wages increased by 0.6% in December 2019, and peaked at 1.9% in February under President Trump, according to official data.

This is lower than the real wage increases of more than 2% that President Obama oversaw in 2015."

For the constituents of hard-hit areas, there's one thing to make sure to do: vote people like DT out of office in November. They do not care about you.

Trump's businesses have sought public funds, his corporate donors have received public funds, but heaven help us if local public governments should get public funds.

Wow - I didn’t know President Trump was getting a bailout from Nancy Pelosi for his company; haven’t read that anywhere in the most prominent news websites. Looking forward to hearing the details on that shocking turn of events

Because it’s more garbage. They need clicks and a prayer that Biden doesn’t fall further apart this November.

"Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) and cities, in all cases Democrat run and managed, when most of the other states are not looking for bailout help? I am open to discussing anything, but just asking?" Trump wrote on Twitter

I completely agree and I think states that a pulley run or that used up their budget and overpaid on entitlements or on illegal aliens and mismanaged profits should not get a bailout, why burden the tax payer for paying for States like Illinois? Doesn’t make sense. Why should out of control and mismanaged cities like South Chicago get any aid when you haven’t seen any progress in over 60 years.

I completely agree and I think states that a pulley run or that used up their budget and overpaid on entitlements or on illegal aliens and mismanaged profits should not get a bailout,

State Employee pensions are not entitlements. Payments to illegal aliens are not the reason for the budget crisis. States don't make "profit." What for the love of God, Bass, are you talking about?

why burden the tax payer for paying for States like Illinois? 

Interesting point, Bass. Why should states like California, or New York, or Illinois pay to prop failed Republican hell holes like Kentucky, Alabama, or Mississippi?

Sarcasm aside, what do you think happens to retirees who lose their pension? You think they should all go live under bridges somewhere warm?

Two things.

One, to the feds: bailout businesses but not states?

Two, to the states: demand cash from the federal government, but also demand independence and right to open or close according to your own whims?

One, to the feds: bailout businesses but not states?

Agree here.

Two, to the states: demand cash from the federal government, but also demand independence and right to open or close according to your own whims?

Federalism. Trump could have declared a State of Emergency, why didn't he? States stepped in to fill the void in leadership.

Take NYC, one of the most corrupt cities in the world.

Please post credible sources to prove your point.

What, you don't believe NY is corrupt as hell? Google is your friend.

Does Politico count as a credible news source?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/how-new-york-became-most-corrupt-state-in-america-117652

It helped create the greatest economy the world has ever known.

You keep repeating that empty talking point, so I'm gonna disprove it again:

Trump doesn't even have the best economy in the history of his own country.

Ahem...

LEADING AN ECONOMIC RESURGENCE: President Trump has reversed the failed economic policies of old and ushered in a new era of economic prosperity for the United States.

Real GDP growth under President Trump has beaten the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) projections every year and exceeded the rate of the Obama Administration’s expansion.

5 million more jobs have been added than the CBO projected prior to the 2016 election.

The economy added more jobs in 2019 alone than the CBO projected would be created during the President’s first three years in office.

The unemployment rate is 1.4 percentage points lower than the CBO’s pre-election projection.

CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITY: Thanks to the President’s policies, millions of jobs have been added to our economy, creating new opportunity for every American.

Nearly 7 million jobs have been created nationwide since President Trump’s election, including more than 500,000 manufacturing jobs.

Last year, the unemployment rate reached its lowest level in half a century.

Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Americans without a high school degree, and disabled Americans have logged record lows.

The Trump economy is bringing workers off the sidelines after they were left behind for years.

The prime-age labor force has expanded by 2.3 million under President Trump after shrinking by almost 1.6 million under the previous administration.

LIFTING UP ALL AMERICANS: President Trump’s pro-growth policies are reducing inequality and benefiting Americans who were previously left behind. 

Nearly 2.5 million Americans have been lifted out of poverty, including nearly 1.4 million children.

The poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans hit new lows in 2018.

Wages are rising faster for the bottom 10 percent of earners than for the top 10 percent of earners, and wage growth for employees has surpassed wage growth for managers.

Since President Trump’s historic tax reform, the lowest earners have enjoyed faster wage gains than every other income group.

The net wealth held by the bottom half of households has grown by 47 percent—more than three times the rate of increase for the top 1 percent of households.

Interesting point, Bass. Why should states like California, or New York, or Illinois pay to prop failed Republican hell holes like Kentucky, Alabama, or Mississippi?

They don’t have to, they’re not asking, the bluest “richest” failed States are asking for money

Sarcasm aside, what do you think happens to retirees who lose their pension? You think they should all go live under bridges somewhere warm?

So what is California, Oregon and Washington State as well as NY doing to deal with their out of control homelessness?

Does Politico count as a credible news source?

New York State is not the same as New York City. You claimed New York City was the most corrupt city. Also, your article is from half a decade again. You're making things up as you go, aren't you?

Please post credible sources to prove your point.

Like posted earlier, NY is one of the states that pays way more than it receives in federal funding. The complete opposite of Kentucky or Maryland.

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/05/10/182852131/how-new-york-became-one-of-the-most-corrupt-states

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/how-new-york-became-most-corrupt-state-in-america-117652

NY has always been corrupt.

They don’t have to, they’re not asking, the bluest “richest” failed States are asking for money

They don't have to because they get more federal dollars each and every year than states like New York, Illinois, and California. IF you think they shouldn't be bailed out, I think those states should refuse to fork over dollars to the Feds. Let failed red states fend for themselves.

So what is California, Oregon and Washington State as well as NY doing to deal with their out of control homelessness?

That doesn't answer my question. Its irrelevant. What happens to retirees when they lose their pensions? Let's also not forget the hit that investors would feel, too.

They don't have to because they get more federal dollars each and every year than states like New York, Illinois, and California.

Well, NY, Illinois and California can and should take care of themselves, they certainly have the funding to do so.

IF you think they shouldn't be bailed out, I think those states should refuse to fork over dollars to the Feds. Let failed red states fend for themselves. 

Well, I don’t, but Trump will be the judge of that, methinks these States better seek another viable solution to secure funding.

That doesn't answer my question. Its irrelevant.

No, it’s relevant, so what will these States do with their out of control homeless population? Why are the numbers growing?

So what is California, Oregon and Washington State as well as NY doing to deal with their out of control homelessness?

That doesn't answer my question. Its irrelevant. What happens to retirees when they lose their pensions? Let's also not forget the hit that investors would feel, too.

@Serrano,

I have to laugh at your link The two New York state senators your article talks about are both Republicans:

New York doesn’t so much have a culture of corruption as an entire festival. So far, Senate Republicans are standing by Skelos, but if they decide to make a change, they probably won’t turn to Thomas Libous, the chamber’s Number Two leader. 

When you say we should vote out corrupt politicians. You do mean vote out this corrupt Republicans, don't you? :D

New York State is not the same as New York City. You claimed New York City was the most corrupt city. Also, your article is from half a decade again. You're making things up as you go, aren't you?

I didn't say it's the most corrupt city, I said it's one of the most corrupt cities.

Ahem...

https://www.city-journal.org/html/new-yorks-corruption-pit-15797.html

WolfpackToday  07:33 am JST

@PTownsend: and the bailout money (aka welfare/socialism for the rich) Trump/Ivanka/Jared will be getting probably won't be enough to cover them.

Wow - I didn’t know President Trump was getting a bailout from Nancy Pelosi for his company; haven’t read that anywhere in the most prominent news websites. Looking forward to hearing the details on that shocking turn of events.

WolfpackToday... The best reply .. Well said ..

I didn't say it's the most corrupt city, I said it's one of the most corrupt cities.

And then you posted a link showing how corrupt Republican leadership in the New York state Senate is corrupt. Not New York City. Well done, Serrano, you've really outdone yourself. lolololol

Bankruptcy wouldn't solve the issue of funds not being there today. If there's no tax revenue, there's no revenue, regardless of what their liabilities are. So let's get it out of the way that this is some kind of smart, financial decision. It isn't.

It's a political move by McConnell to try to get more Republican governors/senators elected by pitching bankruptcy over tax increases. And it's nothing more than that. This issue of bailouts going to fund pensions is a red herring.

Donny tried to put up a brave face at the briefing but tucked his tail and ran the moment tough questions started coming in.

He repeats the same stuff over and over again, thankfully he didn't ask us to inject more stuff into our bodies this time.

Pence continues to humiliate himself and parroting donny's lies, someone should tell him it's of no use, donny's not going to choose him for his running mate.

Donny's failing hotels and resorts cannot survive without bailout money, wonder if Putin is going to step in?

Me thinks No since Donny is done, he will be sitting outside the WH gates next January bags and all!!!

The rich blue states wouldn’t need bailouts if they didn’t send all their excess cash to red states so the red states could stay afloat during normal times. It’s rank hypocrisy to claim that blue states shouldn’t get bailed out with their own cash and that that cash should continue to bailout the poor red states.

Donny does not determine which states get bailed out, Congress does.

Love the deflection to homeless populations when you can’t answer why the red states should keep getting money from the blue states. The blue states could use the money they give the red states to help the homeless in the blue states.

City Journal is a publication of the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research (MI), a leading free-market think tank.

A mouthpiece for a conservative think tank (conservatives don’t think, so this classification is hilarious) is not an appropriate source of information. Additionally, the article merely points out a few cases of possible corruption; it in no way supports the contention that NYC is one of the most corrupt cities in the world. HAR!

"Why should the people and taxpayers of America be bailing out poorly run states (like Illinois, as example) and cities, in all cases Democrat run and managed, when most of the other states are not looking for bailout help? I am open to discussing anything, but just asking?" Trump wrote on Twitter.

Over 54K Americans are dead, and more are dying each day, and what does this Moron do? He plays elementary school level political games.

Earth to Trump - Americans are dying! They are Americans, not Repubs or Dems!

Stop telling everyone to inject Clorox and start meeting your federal obligation to provide assistance and support to the states - ALL STATES!

Stupid Moron...

NY has always been corrupt.

Take NYC, one of the most corrupt cities in the world. 

Especially when a certain Republican ran the city - you know the one currently under criminal investigation by AG Barr for corruption in Ukraine? He also happens to be the current President's personal lawyer...

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/470579-rudy-giuliani-under-investigation-for-campaign-finance-lobbying

The problem is that they are so concerned about "owning the libs" and wiping Democrats off the map that they don't realize how out of step their ideology is with the rest of America.

Elephant in the living room: Red state welfare.

Bass, you are being duped by people trying to dupe you. Bankruptcy isn't the answer. Even McConnell backed off of his statements and Republicans governors don't support it.

Elephant in the living room: Red state welfare.

Very true...Top 10 States with highest poverty rates;

Tennessee - Repub Gov

South Carolina - Repub Gov

Oklahoma - Repub Gov

Alabama - Repub Gov

Kentucky - Dem Gov

Arkansas - Repub Gov

West Virginia - Repub Gov

Louisiana - Dem Gov

New Mexico - Dem Gov

Mississippi - Repub Gov

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/us-states-with-the-highest-poverty-rates

I guess Trump was talking about these when he criticized US states taking federal aid...

California? The fifth largest economy - in the world....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/

He didn’t run from the podium, didn’t stutter or lose his train of thought, 

Donny cannot run, but he doesn't have a train of thought either.

So do the Democrats...over and over and over...

Care to point put which democrats were at the briefing?

And Donny was his usual self refusing to take responsibility for anything, claiming he was being 'sarcastic '.

The President is being sarcastic at a serious press briefing about a million Americans being sick and around 50,000 dying....thats some serious lack of empathy.

Tennessee - Repub Gov 

South Carolina -  Repub Gov 

Oklahoma - Repub Gov 

Alabama - Repub Gov 

Kentucky - Dem Gov

Arkansas - Repub Gov 

West Virginia - Repub Gov 

Louisiana - Dem Gov

New Mexico - Dem Gov 

Mississippi - Repub Gov

Here is the Problem with the Blue States, they always had money, lots of money in comparison to the Red States with the exception of Texas where the economy is and has been growing, but bailouts and bailing out these blue States won’t help except just throw away more money on entitlements and wasting it on people that aren’t even legal in this country.

From 2017

State Bankruptcy: First Puerto Rico into bankruptcy, next Illinois? Don't laugh. In some ways, Illinois' fiscal crisis is just as bad as bankrupt Puerto Rico's. And it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Illinois is nearly $15 billion in arrears on its bills and really has no way to pay up. It already has the lowest credit rating of any state, and could become the first state ever to get a "junk" rating on its debt, which would make borrowing to address its problems very difficult at best, and prohibitively costly at worst.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/dont-bail-out-failing-states-like-illinois/

Just more waste and zero return. Time to hang it up.

now list the top 10 states in order of coronavirus cases and deaths by Dem/Repub governor.

States run by liberal governments have significantly higher number of cases and deaths (around 70/30).

you are being duped by people trying to dupe you.

This is one reason why I don’t trust liberals to a large extent.

Bankruptcy isn't the answer.

No, it’s not the answer, but even Mitch knows the majority of blue states and handing them money is a lost cause.

No, it’s not the answer

Agreed.

The Wall Street Journal reported today that Carnival Cruise Line, which registers most of its ships in Panama and pays almost zero tax in the US, is getting a multibillion dollar bailout.

But the actual states that make up the union? Nah, they can fend for themselves.

now list the top 10 states in order of coronavirus cases and deaths by Dem/Repub governor.

States run by liberal governments have significantly higher number of cases and deaths (around 70/30).

And another Trump U math grad...

You think population numbers may be a factor? More people, more Corona?

One thing is for sure - Repub Gov equals more poverty...and more federal money...

Mitch knows the majority of blue states and handing them money is a lost cause.

Kentucky? Mississippi? Alabama? Those are stupid states with low per capita incomes. NY supports Kentucky.

Blue States, they always had money

Yes they are smart. Mississippi Kentucky Alabama are holes in the ground

States run by liberal governments have significantly higher number of cases and deaths (around 70/30).

Lots of Trump people are dying from injecting Mr. Clean.

@Serrano

Trump doesn't even have the best economy in the history of his own country.

Ahem...

You just copy/pasted boasts from the white house's own website. So from Trump and his administration's mouths. Like that somehow makes their statements real. That is not a credible source at all. On the contrary, it's the most untrustworthy one there is on this subject.

https://www.investors.com

Overall, we would rate Investors Business Daily Right Biased based on right leaning economic and market positions. We would also give them a High factual rating on strictly investing and market news. However, editorially IBT is clearly a Questionable source with promotion of right wing conspiracy theories and numerous failed fact checks. In sum, we rate them far right biased and Mixed for factual reporting.

Do you read any source of news that's not completely far right-wing biased?

States run by liberal governments have significantly higher number of cases and deaths (around 70/30).

I agree. Covid-19 was an attempt by the Trump administration to kill Democrats.

I could never stand Mitch McConnell - the classic example of a career politician with his hand out taking money from special interests - many from his wife's relatives in China.

But I always thought he was a shrewd, calculating politician. No longer...

His comment on letting states go bankrupt has to be his biggest gaffe ever - and a gift to his former Marine fighter pilot Dem competitor in Nov.

Hr want's states, primarily Blue ones, to declare bankruptcy - you know, not having sufficient assets on hand to pay debts...

And what has McConnell done over the past three years? With his tax cut for the Top 1% and trillion dollar stimulus bailouts he's taken our federal deficit to the highest in our history - you know assets to debts...

You can't be a bigger hypocrite - well, unless you rail against China yet still have your clothing line made there.

With that idiotic bankruptcy statement, McConnell's re-elections hopes just went up in flames...

So long Mitch...

McConnell's re-elections hopes just went up in flames...

Does anyone realize that McConnell is one of the most powerful leaders in the USA but he is Kentucky based? One of the poorest states in the USA? McConnell was elected by a lot of people living with below average incomes (bless their hearts) and don't really know any better (often think Obama was born in Kenya) and look at the result we have. But have to blame the smart voters...they need to vote more, really!!!

Here come the low information Trump cult followers who's entire lives revolves around Fox News, OANN, their home county and being terrified of different people, religions and lifestyles.

Democrats want more aid to help cities and states left out of the nearly $3 trillion in economic relief already enacted during the crisis. But some Republicans have balked at the price, and the Senate's top Republican said he would back state bankruptcy before giving them more U.S. funding.

He's campaigning people. This is directly aimed at November. He has demonstrated over and over again that he is without substance, facts or even the basic leadership qualities. But what do all inept people do, they blame others. If he can get his cult following to repeat a lie often enough, perception becomes reality. That's how he won in 2016. Why should we expect anything different for 2020.

Blaming Obama and China for his utter failing as a leader didn't work, so now its all about blaming the Governors of 'blue' states that it's their fault that the economy didn't recover.

Interesting that these protests against state restrictions were political in nature, nationally instigated, in blue states, attended by MAGA hat wearing individuals EVEN after a Governor had announce a phasing out of restrictions. In some cases the organizers had to hurry up and get their protest in before the restrictions were already lifted.

His rhetoric (as idiotic as it is) and the Trump rallies (oops, I mean protests) are not happenstance or coincidental.

Trump suggests U.S. shouldn’t bail out Democratic-run states

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests-us-shouldnt-bail-out-democratic-run-states-2020-04-27?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

Out of the top 13 states that receive federal money 10 are Republican states. The states that actually PAY federal money are democratic states. Republican states are the poorer states and receive more federal dollars.

Wow - I didn’t know President Trump was getting a bailout from Nancy Pelosi for his company; haven’t read that anywhere in the most prominent news websites. Looking forward to hearing the details on that shocking turn of events.

@WolfPack-----We certainly need to find out. Don't we?

Senators Demand Answers About Jared Kushner's Role In Distributing Medical Supplies

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/coronavirus-jared-kushner-elizabeth-warren-232212639.html

@Blacklabel

now list the top 10 states in order of coronavirus cases and deaths by Dem/Repub governor.

States run by liberal governments have significantly higher number of cases and deaths (around 70/30).

That is irrelevant! Faulty logic at its finest.

What you failed to mention is Democratic states tend to have higher populations because more people want to live there because of a better quality of life. Larger populations mean a greater chance of infection.

For example, the Dakotas have a 1 million people tops!

Republican states are the poorer states and receive more federal dollars.

Coronavirus vs. Governors: Ranking the Best and Worst State Leaders

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/01/coronavirus-state-governors-best-worst-covid-19-159945

The best State Leaders all have one thing in common which are mostly Democratic. They all ignored trump!

Even Mitch knows the majority of blue states and handing them money is a lost cause.

Overall, we would rate Investors Business Daily Right Biased based on right leaning economic and market positions.

Do they have a Socialist Business Insider Daily?

Do you read any source of news that's not completely far right-wing biased?

Name me some reputable socialist business sites please.

Blaming Obama and China for his utter failing as a leader didn't work, so now its all about blaming the Governors of 'blue' states that it's their fault that the economy didn't recover.

I won’t blame Barack for this, but China and the governors, yeah and have been for a very long time.

and the governors

Trump is saying to inject Mr. Clean. There's the blame (100%). Which governors said to inject Mr. Clean?This is all on Trump. Also, he has a VP who does not believe in science and Jared.

Nope not in Texas or Florida

You think population numbers may be a factor? More people, more Corona?

Nope not in Texas or Florida

This is a problem in the USA. Trump is the president. The biggest problem is he is telling people to inject themselves with Mr. Clean.

Trump is lucky he wasn't president back when he was climbing out of a deep hole of bankruptcy.

Do they have a Socialist Business Insider Daily?

Name me some reputable socialist business sites please.

Interesting that you went directly to "socialist" and not simply to "unbiased" (or at least "not far-right"). Tells a lot about your worldview, I guess. Because you could read The Economist or The Financial Times, for example.

Interesting that you went directly to "socialist" and not simply to "unbiased"

You were the one that criticized a major American business news guide.

(or at least "not far-right"). Tells a lot about your worldview, I guess.

When it comes to Capitalism, yes, it does.

Because you could read The Economist or The Financial Times, for example.

I do as well, but I’ve posted articles from them that liberals didn’t like and got the same whining, so either way, liberals won’t accept anything that doesn’t appease them or that they don’t approve of.

again, Texas and Florida immediately spring to mind. The entire USA isnt simply your beloved liberal bastions of NY and CA.

Even Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states, has a Republican governor somehow. I have a heard a couple people live in this place called Boston.

What you failed to mention is Democratic states tend to have higher populations because more people want to live there because of a better quality of life. Larger populations mean a greater chance of infection.

You were the one that criticized a major American business news guide

Because their editorial content promotes conspiracy theories and regularly fails facts checks, yes. You say that like it's a bad thing?

When it comes to Capitalism, yes, it does.

So it's either "capitalism id the best" or "we should all be socialists"? There's no nuance, no middle ground anywhere for you?

I do as well, but I’ve posted articles from them that liberals didn’t like and got the same whining,

Please provide sources.

so either way, liberals won’t accept anything that doesn’t appease them or that they don’t approve of.

And yet again, the irony of your own words will probably escape you.

again, Texas and Florida immediately spring to mind.

The virus does not care what state is what. It's not counting Trump people and non-Trump people. But under the US we have a president who says to inject Mr. Clean and that is more deadly than the virus itself. I think it's thinking about how to save money with TrumpCare. A bottle of Mr. Clean is only 99 cents at Dollar General.

I was told the number of people infected and deaths increase in direct relation to population.

That is in fact not the case in Texas or Florida, among others.

That is in fact not the case in Texas or Florida, among others.

As we've already discussed. The Covid-19 is a conspiracy by the Trump administration to kill Democrats, so he can steal the election. Both Florida and Texas went for Trump last time, why would Donny want to kill his cult followers？：D

Michigan (#3 in deaths in USA)- half the population, 5 times the number of deaths of Texas

New Jersey (#2 in deaths in USA)- 40% of the population, 6 times the number of deaths of Florida.

Michigan had a Dem political rally on March 9th (Joe, Harris, Booker) -and- New Jersey had one on 29 Feb (Nancy was there along with the Governor Murphy and Booker again).

What impact did these public events have on the spread? shouldnt they have been cancelled, as everyone (but especially that orange dotard Trump!) knew how serious this was months and months ago?

Hell of a democratic hoax, this here coronavirus.

lets twist again, like we did last summer....

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/democratic-ad-twists-trumps-hoax-comment/

Because their editorial content promotes conspiracy

Liberals are the last people to bring up conspiracy garbage after what they put the country through for the last 3 years...

So it's either "capitalism id the best" or "we should all be socialists"?

Seems like liberals want socialism, that’s why so many wanted Bernie, but now in order to appease the Bernie bros, Biden has to go further left to match Bernie.

There's no nuance, no middle ground anywhere for you?

There is, within reason.