Trump suggests FBI may have infiltrated his campaign

Neither Trump nor Giuliani provided any evidence of government infiltration into Trump's presidential campaign.

Because they know Trump's true believers don't need evidence; they'll believe anything he tells them to believe. Cult of personality, after all.

Given Trump and the Kushner families criminal histories (daddy Kushner a convicted felon) and given their financial dealings with organized crime worldwide it would be concerning if law enforcement did NOT do whatever they could to investigate.

Lock Trump up!

A con man, a serial adulterer, a money launderer and a Russian agent walk into a bar.

The bartender says, “What can I get you, Mr. Trump?"

Clapper sure changed from saying Trump was never spied on to we spied on him and Im glad we did kind of too quickly for anyone's comfort. But Dems are fine with it somehow, despite supposedly being the party which is against spying and for peoples rights and privacy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/05/18/clapper_a_good_thing_if_fbi_had_someone_observing_russian_interactions_with_trump_campaign.html

NY Times said he was spied on for his own protection. Then trying to say that "informants" were sent to investigate people, not to spy. Since when do informants investigate? Were any informants placed in the Hillary campaign? Its spying and exactly what Trump was talking about when liberals were mocking him for his conspiracy theory tweets that have now been proven true. AGAIN. With Clapper involved in spying and lying about it. AGAIN.

@blackl But Dems are fine with it somehow, despite supposedly being the party which is against spying and for peoples rights and privacy.

Only Trump's true believers and other authoritarian nationalists, those who have chosen to ignore and defend Trump's numerous shady dealings, those who even defend his shady dealings with foreign agents, would oppose law enforcement's investigations of him and his family.

Why is Trump so afraid of being investigated? What's he hiding? Why won't he release his tax info?

Trump doesn't understand how anything actually works. Why should this be any different?  

Regardless, this is just more of the same. We saw it during the campaign and every day he's been in office. He's setting up his excuses and blame. If this gets bad for him, he'll further tear the country apart with lies and conspiracies. He does not care what damage he does to our country and its institutions. The thought never even occurs to him. It's always only about himself.

Because the Constitution of the United States does not allow people to be constantly investigated and spied on "just because". There has to be proof of a crime. There was none, so they sent a spy to "investgate". Then they used that fact to now say there is "an investigation". Then because there is an investigation there is obviously a crime, because innocent people arent investigated. But nothing can be found, so he is now hiding something.

What is he hiding? is the false assumption behind this whole thing. You dont even know that he did anything, but you want to keep investigating until you find something. who says there is anything to be found?

If I'd done one-tenth of what he's done, I'd be sent to jail. Lock him up! Lock him up. That's right, lock him up.

Yet every "conspiracy" that comes out of his mouth, somehow eventually ends up being true. Strange how that works. By now I would say the same thing you said below. but about the investigation. They dont want to consider that there might be nothing to find, thought never occurs to them. They wiretapped, spied, threatened, took documents, made people testify, made fake dossiers yet still NOTHING. they were seeing and hearing every single thing that was going on through surveillance or spying.

he'll further tear the country apart with lies and conspiracies. He does not care what damage he does to our country and its institutions. The thought never even occurs to him. It's always only about himself.

Doesn’t make difference. Trump ran a better campaign than Hillary. That’s why he took Ohio & FL on election night. Then he pierced that “blue wall.” Remember that sea of read on the electoral map? Beautiful sight.

Yet every "conspiracy" that comes out of his mouth, somehow eventually ends up being true. Strange how that works. 

Yrah, if you have a wild imagination. Trump claimed his office was bugged, it certainly wasn't.

He claimed Obama is a Kenyan, he certainly isn't.

Trump is the mango who cried wolf.

What is he hiding? is the false assumption behind this whole thing. You dont even know that he did anything, but you want to keep investigating until you find something. who says there is anything to be found?

Gee, I dunno. Firing the head of the FBI after refusing to pledge loyalty and after refusing to lay off Flynn strikes me as odd.

Lkewise, I find it odd how Trump cannot criticize Putin, and refuses to sign off on Russia sanctions, and notified Russia before their retaliatory strike.

Its also curious how many hundreds of shell companies he has, and how he is the first presidential candidate, and now president in modern history to refuse to release his tax returns.

Intriguing also is Trump's claim to have no business interests in Russia, despite Michael Cohen actually trying to negotiate a deal for a Trump tower in Russia, and despite his son's claiming to be financed in part with Russian money.

Yeah, you're right: Who are we to question Czar Donny?

More tinfoil hat stuff for his insane base.

Yep. Mueller's investigation is getting to the screaming Cheeto....

Yet every "conspiracy" that comes out of his mouth, somehow eventually ends up being true

Mass voter fraud?

Birtherism?

Ted Cruz’s father in on the JFK assassination?

Anyone want to add to the list?

Your list is getting shorter and shorter month by month. Voter fraud happened and people have been jailed for it. You get it on the list by adding “mass” as a technicality.

He actually didn’t claim that. He said he was “wiretapped” which actually happened based on more recent evidence. Clapper and those FBI guys and the liberal media have given up to even try to hide it anymore.

voter fraud happened and people have been jailed for it.

5 million jailed? That's about as real as Trump's wall.

Yet every "conspiracy" that comes out of his mouth, somehow eventually ends up being true. 

Then why isn't President Hillary in prison? Same with Obama?

made fake dossiers

Golden showers are not illegal. So what if Trump did this? Who cares if it is among consenting adults?

Many people have learned by now not to take the first things coming out of Trump's mouth seriously - those are walked back by his staff or other party members

That we know of. That’s 3 more than the number of people who have been jailed in the “Russia investigation”.

Why don’t we hire a special counsel and 22 republican Trump donor lawyers with an unlimited budget, unlimited power, unlimited scope and no ending date so that we can look into this until 2020. Might find something! Can subpoena California voting records, it’s never been explained how some places had voter participation rates of 102%

FBI is doing the right thing to find fairness and justice every election and Trump isn't exception. Happy to see this balance USA has, that I like keep on liking that country. These years USA is getting worse by trust and friendship around the world, where everybody is knowing why is that causes.

Voter fraud happened and people have been jailed for it. You get it on the list by adding “mass” as a technicality.

Trump claimed voter fraud was in the millions and he actually won the popular vote. Baseless conspiracy trash. No evidence of voter fraud on the scale he claimed.

Stays on the list.

How about birtherism and Ted Cruz’s father in on the JFK assassination?

He does have form when it comes to idiotic conspiracy theories. I think it’s worth keeping in mind.

That’s 3 more than the number of people who have been jailed in the “Russia investigation”.

This claim is disingenuous at best. 5 people have pleaded guilty, and await sentencing. Another 19 other people have been charged with crimes.

Why don’t we hire a special counsel and 22 republican Trump donor lawyers with an unlimited budget, unlimited power, unlimited scope and no ending date so that we can look into this until 2020.

That would require proof keep going.

! Can subpoena California voting records, 

Why so tough on California? Cuz its a Democratic stronghold or because its full of hispanics?

Personally, I think we should look at Iowa and other States with large populations of Trump supporters- seems they like vote twice. ;)

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2017/07/07/iowa-woman-charged-voting-twice-trump-pleads-guilty/459718001/

, it’s never been explained how some places had voter participation rates of 102%

Probably because it didn't happen. Got a link?

To everyone who still believes Trump speaks the truth, please submit your bids for the Brooklyn Bridge that I have decided to put up for sale.

The paranoid freak is at it again. No doubt a cheeseburger binge in bed along with some Hannity to tuck him in tonight, then a 5:00 wake up, hate watching of other news stations, then raging with his little hands on Twitter. Then Sanders will just say "I can't comment on that" and deflect.

the FBI sent an informant to talk to two Trump campaign advisers, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, after the agency received evidence that the two men had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign

Good work by the FBI.

Can't wait for this idiot to be out of the White House. I want to see America Great Again.

Yet another part of his "everyone is against me" defense....(and plan of disseminating disinformation)

Neither Trump nor Giuliani provided any evidence of government infiltration into Trump's presidential campaign.

They didn’t have to - the Leftist press are providing the evidence for them. They were responding to New York Times and Washington Post stories claiming that his campaigned was being watched by the FBI.

CNN reported that U.S. officials said, "The confidential intelligence source was not planted inside the campaign to provide information to investigators."

And CNN bought this ridiculous explanation? The sole purpose of an intelligence source is the collection of information. What other possible reason for an “intelligence source” is there? If what the Liberal press is reporting is true, it would be the most egregious government corruption of democracy in US history.

This story is schizophrenic. It’s trying to make the case the Trump (and Giuliani) are wrong in suggesting that his campaign was spied on by a law enforcement agency controlled by the opposition party. Then immediately cites several media sources suggesting exactly that.

It said the informant was an American academic who teaches in Britain.

With this piece of information the NY Times has basically outed the FBI’s source. There is going to be a very limited number of people that fit this profile. The spy will be outed sooner rather than later.

The FBI declined to comment on Friday.

The FBI is unwilling to deny that it committed a crime? That’s revealing in itself.

Trump doesn't understand how anything actually works. Why should this be any different?  

I think most people don’t know how it works, but speculating, they do so, so very well.

Regardless, this is just more of the same. We saw it during the campaign and every day he's been in office. He's setting up his excuses and blame.

Blame for what?

If this gets bad for him, he'll further tear the country apart with lies and conspiracies.

No, the country was already torn apart to say it in a clean way, he’s trying to put it back together.

He does not care what damage he does to our country and its institutions. The thought never even occurs to him. It's always only about himself.

No, he cares, the liberals are on a complete rampage to destroy the country, that’s why California is revolting and conservatives are rising up everywhere and saying, enough of this madness.

@takeda: That would require proof keep going.

You cannot uncover proof without an investigation. Isn’t that what the Left said about the Russian collusion ‘narrative ‘? If they didn’t do anything wrong and all of the people at the top levels of FBI and DOJ leadership who privately expressed hatred towards Trump are not subject to human failings just like those people they dislike, what’s the harm in an investigation?

The press has certainly uncovered enough smoke in the discredited dossier funded by the Clinton campaign and the domestic spying on a rival presidential campaign to inquire as to whether their is a fire. What does the FBI have to hide? They are certainly trying hard to avoid Congressional oversight.

Are individuals who happen to work for the FBI prohibited from being politically active when off-duty? I think US Military are, but is the FBI too?

I can certainly believe that at least one would be a volunteer for Trump's and another for Clinton's campaign, if allowed.

The Hatch Act lays out which govt employees can and cannot be politically active. Appears to be position dependent: https://www.justice.gov/jmd/political-activities

JimizoToday  06:55 pm JST

Yet every "conspiracy" that comes out of his mouth, somehow eventually ends up being true

Mass voter fraud?

Birtherism?

Ted Cruz’s father in on the JFK assassination?

Anyone want to add to the list?

That the Comey memos showed there was no collusion,

that people in California vote multiple times,

that global warming was a Chinese invention,

that the ice caps are "at a record level",

that his inauguration crowd was the biggest ever,

that immigration lotteries involve taking "the worst people",

that people have not been able to get tax cuts since Reagan,

that Amazon has a no tax monopoly,

that he didn't know Steve Bannon before the election,

... and that's just a small sample of some of Trump's biggest whoppers, mostly taken from the 81 statements by Trump that politifact has rated "Pants on Fire".

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

The truly disturbing thing about this story is that if the FBI infiltrated his campaign, it is entirely likely they were doing counterintelligence operations - meaning their job was to protect Trump from possible foreign malfeasance.

So that means two things:

One, that the FBI had reason to believe foreign powers were infiltrating his campaign and the FBI wanted to protect him from them, and,

Two, that he is so opportunistic and narcissistic that he would endanger US agents who risked their lives to protect him just to try and gain a momentary political advantage.

This is the man that right wingers are shocked to find his tax cut doesn't actually help the middle class, as if it didn't even occur to them until now that he has, shall we say, a habit of insincerity. A man who would throw US agents trying to protect him under the bus would throw anyone under the bus.

If Trump's team hadn't lied so much about their contacts with Russia then more people would probably take them at their word.

But lying was their choice, and as a result they destroyed their own credibility.

Clapper sure changed from saying Trump was never spied on to we spied on him and Im glad we did kind of too quickly for anyone's comfort. But Dems are fine with it somehow, despite supposedly being the party which is against spying and for peoples rights and privacy.

That is not what he said. This is. Blatantly, Obviously. Undoubtedly. Untrue.

Let's have a look at what he said, using your link, of course:

JAMES CLAPPER: Well, I think it's -- this is hyperbole. Hyperbole. They may have had someone who was talking to them in, uh, in the campaign, but, you know, the focus here, and as it was with the intelligence community is not on the campaign, per se, but what the Russians were doing to try to instantiate themselves in the campaign or influence or leverage it. 

So if there was someone that was observing that sort of thing, that's a good thing because the Russians posed a threat to the very basis of our political system.

That does not mean he it actually happened. IF it happened it would be a good thing, but Czar Donny, being the liar he is, probably isn't.

Present the facts as they are, not as you want them to be, Black.

Fake, fake, fake. And now, debunked. Back to you, Trump -- new story needed. Ask Rudy to help you!

Of course Clapper is going to say IF. But spying on a political campaign is not ok and against the constitution.

So why wasnt Hillary “protected” by having a spy assigned to her campaign? Oh sorry an “investigator”. who didn’t “spy” but simply infiltrates something they aren’t part of and secretly reports back to others about what they see and hear. Which is called SPYiNG in our language.

So now you want proof of something to start a special counsel? Didn’t seem to need any to start the current one. Still looking for the crime.

Some people are really desperate to believe Trump on these things.

Remember that time he made up that fib about Trump Tower being wiretapped? And how he looked like a fool when it turned out he was wrong?

Seems some people don't want to remember that.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/election-fraud-registered-voters-outnumber-eligible-voters-462-counties/

But California’s San Diego County earns the enchilada grande. Its 138 percent registration translates into 810,966 ghost voters. Los Angeles County’s 112 percent rate equals 707,475 over-registrations. Beyond the official data that it received, Judicial Watch reports that LA County employees “informed us that the total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144 percent of the total number of resident citizens of voting age.”

Everywhere else and everyone else seemed to be wiretapped or surveilled or spied on. I wouldn’t celebrate just yet that Trump Tower wasn’t. Investigation not over.

I remember when you guys were saying that it was a conspiracy theory that the FBI was spying on trump campaign members, that would require a FISA warrant and there was none.

BlacklabelToday  12:06 am JST

But spying on a political campaign is not ok and against the constitution.

Oh? Do tell, where in the Constitution does it say that?

I mean really, if you're going to make up lies, you might as well at least put in the effort not to make them obvious.

Of course Clapper is going to say IF. But spying on a political campaign is not ok and against the constitution.

Ok, good thing it almost definitely is something Trump made up, and not based in reality.

I remember when you guys were saying that it was a conspiracy theory that the FBI was spying on trump campaign members, that would require a FISA warrant and there was none.

No one ever claimed that the FBI wasn't 'spying' (nice word for investigating by the way) on Trump campaign members. We pointed out that Trump had just made up the whole thing about Trump Tower being wiretapped. You know that little bitty he made up that has never been supported by a single piece of evidence, anywhere, ever?

No, you probably don't know. You live in the bubble.

CNN reported that U.S. officials said, "The confidential intelligence source was not planted inside the campaign to provide information to investigators."

yeah, he wasn’t “planted” he was just asked to go there and interject himself, ask leading questions and report back. Totally different from “planted”. So based on that one word, liberals try to say the whole thing is wrong and no part of it happened. But it did, the liberal newspapers even said so and Papa and Page confirmed the guy was pumping them for info.

yeah, he wasn’t “planted” he was just asked to go there and interject himself, ask leading questions and report back. Totally different from “planted”. So based on that one word, liberals try to say the whole thing is wrong and no part of it happened. But it did, the liberal newspapers even said so and Papa and Page confirmed the guy was pumping them for info.

No, that's not what happened. Just another twisted distortion of reality that doesn't stand up when faced with any close inspection.

Except The NY Times and WaPo articles have leaked that it DID happen. In their articles where they confirm it happened but then try to make fun of Trump claiming he made up what they just confirmed happened.

the FBI has investigators. This person was not one. Thus, he was spying on Trump campaign. But that spying was meant to “protect” the campaign says the FBI whose leadership all got fired or quit somehow.

Ok, good thing it almost definitely is something Trump made up, and not based in reality

BlacklabelToday  12:26 am JST

Except The NY Times and WaPo articles have leaked that it DID happen.

Citation needed.

You know, as opposed to paranoid right-wing delusions.

Again, now you want evidence? Haven’t needed it for any claims of “Russian collusion”, huh? Cause that “obviously” happened so doesn’t need evidence.

Mueller having lots of problems in court now cause of this lack of evidence. Indicted a non existent company and can’t prove the people he did indict even work at the company he claims they do.

Aww, little Trumpkin's is worried about the FBI DOING IT'S JOB. The Trumpeteer's are worried about the Justice Department DOING IT'S JOB. They're all so worried because obviously Trumpkin's literally has some shady $#!+ going on in the background that will hurt their pride about how much "winning" they believe their doing. Which is why they continue to float conspiracy theories to distract from trying to find the truth.

While I know that there are things that need to be worked on in our justice system, it's working well enough to DO IT'S JOB PROPERLY 95% of the time. These folks have been at this for how many decades? I'm pretty sure they know what to look for and where to find it.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/us/politics/trump-fbi-informant-russia-investigation.html

the “job” of the FBI is not to spy on political campaigns or to pay others to do so in order to try to instigate commission of crimes. Must be a crime first and there is not.

BlacklabelToday  12:30 am JST

Again, now you want evidence? Haven’t needed it for any claims of “Russian collusion”, huh? 

Actually I have. That's why I support the Mueller investigation. But enough of your cowardly whataboutist red herrings. Where is your evidence to support your claim that anything that has happened to Trump violates the constitution?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-fbi-source-for-russia-investigation-met-with-three-trump-advisers-during-campaign/2018/05/18/9778d9f0-5aea-11e8-b656-a5f8c2a9295d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0505681ece56

”source” “met with”. So the guy who doesn't exist confirmed to have met campaign people. How is that possible?

More like spy sent by FBI to try to trap and setup low level and ex campaign members who couid be questioned later and persuaded to “flip” on others over minor process crimes

Article 4 of the Constitution of the United States.

Where is your evidence to support your claim that anything that has happened to Trump violates the constitution?

4th amendment not 4th article.

So my liberal friends.... You are fine with Trump doing these same exact actions against the 2020 Democratic campaign then, right?

Politicize the FBI and CIA and FISA courts and surveillance of campaign members? If it can be done against him and it’s cool then he can do it too? Bet you want the rules changed before then so he can’t do what was done to him,right? All this spying,still no evidence. That’s crazy, should have found something if it existed.

Anyway the liberal news is casually admitting a lot of things that they were previously not reporting or were vehemently denying.

So that means something is coming out soon that they are trying to “normalize” by saying yeah it happened but no big deal.

Like when Hillary knew nothing about the dossier but then 2 days later was like “yeah we paid for that so what?” This week gonna be a rough ride for liberals.

Black: But California’s San Diego County earns the enchilada grande. Its 138 percent registration translates into 810,966 ghost voters. 

Wow, sounds like California needs to clean up their voter registration rolls, especially for voters who have moved to a new area. I don’t think I’ve ever contacted my old state to say I’ve moved and please remove me from registration, and I suspect you are in the same boat. I’m guessing the thousands and thousands who have fled to conservative Texas didn’t spend much time unregistering as well.

The good news is that there are virtually no cases of people showing up to vote and pretending to be someone else, probably because the logistics alone are so nutty that anyone who did actually believe it would be certifiably insane. Someone shows up, gives a name that’s on the list yet didn’t vote there, votes, gets in his car, and does it again? Then you successfully do that millions of times?

Millions and millions of times?

For a plan that, if discovered, would sink the party for a generation?

In a state that Democrats have no chance of losing, meaning no upside whatsoever?

And would require tens of thousands of people, at a minimum, all keeping it a secret to pull off, with just a single person showing verified information taking down the entire operation?

And the odds are so good that this is all true that we need to remove millions and millions of legitimate voters from the rolls in order to fight it?

And the laws that are needed are always crafted by Republicans and negatively impact Democrats more and that’s all just a repetitive coincedence in all cases?

While we do noting about vote by mail which is much more open to manipulation (and just coincidently is used by Republicans more?).

Sure.

Trump suggests FBI may have infiltrated his campaign

aka the FBI are just doing their job.

Remember that time he made up that fib about Trump Tower being wiretapped? And how he looked like a fool when it turned out he was wrong?

Trump building calls were wiretapped - don’t you keep up with the news? He was found to be correct last year even by the fake media.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

On top of that now we know the Obama DOJ used a spy to befriend Trump campaign staffers to spy on his campaign .

Why must Trump haters spend every waking hour trying to prove every thing the man says is a lie? Trump does tell some whoppers but his falsehoods are mere white lies compared to Obama’s numerous lies to pass his health plan - which affected one sixth of America’s 20 trillion GNP.

Infiltrate? I think you 'investigate."

And, yes, I certainly hope they were. We already have 17, SEVENTEEN indictments and 5, FIVE, guilty pleas from people from the Trump Campaign. Here are the names of the FIVE people who have plead guilty for committing CRIMES while working to get Donald Trump in the White House:

George Papadopolous for lying to federal investigators about his contacts with Russian.

Michael T. Flynn, for lying about his contacts with the Russian ambassador during the presidential transition,

Alex van der Zwaan, a lawyer for INDICTED Manafort for to lying to federal agents about his work with Manafort and Gates on a controversial report used to defend the former pro-Russian government of Ukraine against accusations that it had improperly prosecuted a political opponent. He is later sentenced to 30 days behind bars.

Richard Gates, Manafort's business partner, to charges of conspiracy and lying to federal agents.

Jeffrey Yohai, an ex-son-in-law of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, secretly entered a guilty plea earlier this year to criminal charges of fraud in obtaining real estate loans, 

Note: All these criminals got deals: the plead to the above crimes instead of other more serious crimes to get them to cooperates with the Mueller investigation. Flynn and Gates in particular got very sweet deals. Gee, what did they give in return?

So, yeah, you bet your donkey like animal that rhymes with glass that the FBI was investigating this crime ring. That's what they do.

If the FBI did infiltrate his campaign, then they must've had good reason in doing so.

This is also standard operating procedure of the FBI when they infiltrate other criminal organizations such as hate groups, biker gangs and the mafia.

Maybe the Trump Organization was behaving like just another criminal organization, in which case the FBI was just doing its job.

Infiltration has always been the FBI's stock and trade.

They are allowed to. That's there job to catch the nasty people.

And they don't come more nasty than trumpy.

Stefan Halper is the guy the FBI used to feed disinformation to members of the Trump campaign in order to entrap them. Thanks Washington Post and NY Times for outing him by providing specific information that made it obvious to people all over Washington who the mole is.

any time there's a federal informant relaying everything you do to the government, just remember they're not spying on you -- they're protecting you!

Thay guy looking in your window at night? Just protecting you from someone ELSE

any time there's a federal informant relaying everything you do to the government, just remember they're not spying on you -- they're protecting you!

Damn the police, spying on all those criminals they arrest all the time. Spies. All of them spies! SPIES!

Anyone who is entrusted with our nation’s highest secrets should act with the gravity and seriousness of purpose that knowledge deserves.

Liberals: what are you trying to hide??!! What to you mean “secrets”? The American People deserve to know! Who said this?

Told it was Democrat senator Mark Warner and retweeted by Chuckie Schumer.

Liberals: Yeah secrets are important to have so let’s keep all our importsnt things hidden. Well except that trump thing, spy as much as you want!

Except The NY Times and WaPo articles have leaked that it DID happen.

Um no, Trump Tower was never wiretapped, and once again you've twisted reality into some right-wing talking point that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

I guess the talking points arent published on weekends. Half the liberals saying no one was spied on and the other half saying "so what if we spied on that dotard Trump, he MUST have deserved it or they wouldnt have done it". Yet the guy who spied started a month before the "investigation" started. That pesky timeline and facts.

Um no, Trump Tower was never wiretapped, and once again you've twisted reality into some right-wing talking point that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Um - the FBI wiretapped campaign staff and intercepted calls between them and fellow campaign staff, and reportedly Trump himself, in the Trump building. Sounds like Trumps wiretapping accusation is factually correct. Not only that but the Obama DOJ was using an informant to keep an eye on the campaign of the political opposition. That’s corruption of the highest order. Now we just need to investigate to find out what inside information was passed from the informant to the Clinton campaign.

Yes, this is done with warrants and courts and only after there is evidence of a crime. So whats the crime here again? Muller still looking for it, right?

This was a presidential campaign, not gangs or the mob. We dont do that in the USA. Once again why wasnt Hillary " protected?" She did collude with Ukraine as well as pay a foreign spy to collude with Russia and dig up dirt from Russians. If she had only been protected those things wouldnt have happened.

Remember that sea of read on the electoral map? Beautiful sight. should read electoral college, still doesnt change the fact that more AMericans supported Hillary and more Americans didnt support Trump or his policies.

I guess the talking points arent published on weekends. Half the liberals saying no one was spied on and the other half saying "so what if we spied on that dotard Trump, he MUST have deserved it or they wouldnt have done it".

Once again a twisted version of reality that doesn't stand up to inspection.

Um no, Trump Tower was never wiretapped, and once again you've twisted reality into some right-wing talking point that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Um - the FBI wiretapped campaign staff and intercepted calls between them and fellow campaign staff,

Um, that has nothing to do with the fact that Trump Tower was never wiretapped, and was purely something Trump made up without any basis in reality, and has never provided any evidence whatsoever to support.

Try not to twist the truth by posting irrelevant information that has nothing to do with what you're twisting. It only makes the rest of your posts lack credibility.

the Obama DOJ was using an informant to keep an eye on the campaign of the political opposition.

No they weren't. Fake news.

why wasnt Hillary " protected?"

Why do you guys feel the need to deflect from the current president's indescretions by referring to a has-been who is now irrelevant?

So whats the crime here again? Muller still looking for it, right? Ill state it again, the crime is corruption and collusion with Russia, yes Mueller is still looking nobody but Mueller and his team know if he doesn't have anything or he has a lot of evidence, if I was investigating someone Id be sure Id exhaust every avenue and collect every bit of evidence. Its much harder to prove your innocences if there is a mountain of evidence against you instead of a mole hill . Now if I was a betting man and considering Trumps history Id say a mountain is a more likely outcome than a mole hill, no evidence at all, highly unlikely.

Muller still looking for it, right?

How are we supposed to know? With the investigation not leaking at all, it may be that he's already found it and is just shoring up the details to ensure a conviction beyond all doubt. Or maybe he's found nothing, and isn't even looking at collusion anymore, and is investigating other avenues that the investigation led to. Or maybe any of an infinite number of other possibilites.

The point being that your question is loaded with the presumption that you have any clue whatsoever Mueller has come up with in his investigation, which as you are not a member of said investigation you don't. So lets not try to pretend you have any idea of what Mueller has found, mmkay?

I’m just repeating your own liberal media’s reporting. Be mad at them and call them liars if you like.

File under, “did not age well”:

Obama said there was "no serious" person who would suggest it was possible to rig American elections, adding, "I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."

reaso given for hiding all the spying: so trump couldn’t clam it was all rigged against him.

so he went and got votes and won anyway.

I’m just repeating your own liberal media’s reporting. 

No you’re not. As usual you’re taking something and twisting it into a distorted talking point, which falls apart under any scrutiny.

nor even close. All your stories and denials are falling apart.

an informant was paid to seek out trump campaign people, try to get dirt and report back to the FBI. Liberal news said this was to “protect” Trump, right?

So as trump was being protected there is no way any collusion happened. Because if it did the informant would have informed the FBI who would have stopped it in order to protect Trump.

And the lady who wrote the WaPo article trying to protect the FBI saying they weee protecting Trump. Well, she was in the FBI......worked under.......Robert Mueller!

Ta-da!

the lady who wrote the WaPo article trying to protect the FBI saying they weee protecting Trump. Well, she was in the FBI......worked under.......Robert Mueller!

Links or it’s fake news.

the Obama DOJ was using an informant to keep an eye on the campaign of the political opposition.

I definitely believe it, but we should soon find out, if I’m wrong, I’ll apologize, but the shenanigans the left has been playing is slowly coming to an end.

Bigger than Watergate? Trump's version of fake news and deflection.

Depending on what the documents tell us and not what libs, the media WANT people to think.

By this point in time there are no more excuses. Anyone who attempts in any way to defend the myriad lies spread by the president of the USA, from Obama being born in Kenya to 5 million mexicans somehow being secretly trucked into the USA and magically made eligible to vote to claims that pictures of Obama's inauguration are actually Trump's to any person in the FBI, the CIA, and the judiciary of the USA (who is of mexican decent) being evil and biased has so desires aside from teaching their children how to lie and mocking what is just and good about the USA.

an informant was paid to seek out trump campaign people, try to get dirt and report back to the FBI. Liberal news said this was to “protect” Trump, right?

That’s correct. If potentially compromised people are surrounding the President, the FBI will act. I’m not sure why this surprises you.

So as trump was being protected there is no way any collusion happened. 

No one has any idea of what you are talking about, but if you have information that clears Trump or his people then I recommend that you contact the FBI directly. You could end this investigatation overnight,

I definitely believe it, but we should soon find out, if I’m wrong, I’ll apologize

Well you're wrong, so we await your apology.

wasnt the President. The sitting President was the one spying on the opposition political candidate.

That’s correct. If potentially compromised people are surrounding the President, the FBI will act. I’m not sure why this surprises you.

Here you go, a picture of the WaPo author with Muller in the FBI and as a bonus, Bill Clinton.

Asha Rangappa with FBI director Robert Mueller at her passing out ceremony in 2002 at Quantico. 

https://www.indiaabroad.com/indian-americans/the-real-girl-from-quantico-former-fbi-agent-asha-rangappa/article_cf68df5c-aaf7-11e7-b913-c3615ad4f390.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/05/18/if-the-fbi-used-an-informant-it-wasnt-to-go-after-trump-it-was-to-protect-him/?utm_term=.24108d036d1d

You liberals sure wish things were as you hope and wish they are. But they arent. This is your "truth telling neutral media". Now that the spy has been uncovered they claim its not a criminal investigation but a counterintelligence one. But you cant appoint a special counsel if its not criminal....oops

The "evidence" in the 13 Russians Mueller indictment where one of the companies doesnt even exist. The evidence hasnt even been translated.....bwaahaha and you guys think Mueller is winning this case?

I said, what language is [the data] in? She said, Primarily Russian. I said, Have you translated it? She said, No. I said, How do you know what’s in it? And then they didn’t want to talk anymore.

The nonpartisan Mueller prosecutor who is an ex Clinton Foundation lawyer and donor then said all the 2 terabytes of computer evidence was taken from "facilities". Facilities meaning buildings where these Russians worked, right? Nope. facilities is "social media accounts with posts in Russian" SO how were Americans influenced by social media posts in RUSSIAN? bwaaahaha again my sides hurt.

Trump is right again? Oh my!

The FBI Spied on Donald Trump: Legacy Media Runs Massive Damage Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNxPVLPeT3g

http://trumpisright.blogspot.jp/2017/03/trump-is-wrong-vs-trump-is-right-lists.html

wasnt the President. The sitting President was the one spying on the opposition political candidate.

My apologies. I misspoke. The FBI would obviously investigate Russian meddling with someone who is a candidate for President. Which is their job.

You still haven’t provided any evidence of any kind of conspiracy against Trump. I’m guessing you will roll Trump’s unsubstianted claim in with the rest of them and obey his command to spread it out there.

You still haven’t provided any evidence of any kind of conspiracy against Trump.

Because the only 'evidence' are Trump tweets, which they blindly believe like sheep. There has literally never been a single piece of evidence to support Trump's claims on either wiretapping, nor on this infiltration. But to the ears of worshippers, the words of god are fact.

Why must Trump haters spend every waking hour trying to prove every thing the man says is a lie? actually Trump has been proven to lie so often that hes become "the boy who cried wolf" when he does state something that actually might be the truth its very difficult to believe him.

But to the ears of worshipers, the words of god are fact. you know Trump should actually write a new "Bible according to Trump" his cult following would make him the largest new religion in the US.

@Serrano

dude you got to stop posting links to propaganda loonies on Youtube, 0% credibility , 100% speculation

but the shenanigans the left has been playing is slowly coming to an end. yes well soon find out if its all shenanigans or facts with the release on Mullers report.

Trump assumes, suggests, perpetuates and peddles a lot of falsehoods.

a concerned member of his campaign approached the FBI with information. the FBI asked the whistleblower to go back into the campaign and continue to supply them with information. this is what is commonly known as "see something. say something". the trumps bristle at the idea of informants because they're a criminal organization, akin to the gambinos. if robert mueller is elliot ness, donald trump is al capone.

Desperate diversionary tactic. Very lame. American people see right through it.

Desperate diversionary tactic. Very lame. American people see right through it.

So that’s why the polls are showing the growing majority of Americans do believe this witch hunt is bias. I agree, now they are slowly seeing through it.

bass4funk: "So that’s why the polls are showing the growing majority of Americans do believe this witch hunt is bias."

I love it: "this witch hunt is bias". Reminds me of when you spoke of Hillary Clinton as "an ugly old hag who calls people names" or something as equally hypocritical. NO ONE is more bias than your sad excuse for a president, and Giuliani -- the guy you endorsed 100% and said was here to save the day -- proves that by doing almost as many 180s as you do... on the guy you called lunatic before he won the Republican nod.

that’s why the polls are showing the growing majority of Americans do believe this witch hunt is bias.

No poll has shown that.

In this age, it will be hard not to find an agency without a mole, informant, or spy in any political campaign. Trump should take it as a given that someone in the government is collecting info on him.

Trump is embarrassed that Stormy D revealed his weakness, he loves to be SPANKED! He's so embarrassed and he keeps talking paranoia. If he were an innocent man, he wouldn't be babbling like a demented gibbon like he is. He must be having something to hide since he keeps on moaning + groaning and wailing like a crybaby all the time. He's always putting others down and now he's all red-faced that the world knows that he loves getting SPANKY SPANKY. He won't reveal his taxes, he doesn't respect the Constitution and he's like a dictator. He's unworthy to be the head of a civilized nation. The FBI didn't need to infiltrate his 2016 campaign because his treason, belligerency, prejudice, vanity, perversion and selfishness are all apparent. He made them very clear to everyone, and his supporters KNOW that he is a Fake President.

Trump is embarrassed that Stormy D revealed his weakness, he loves to be SPANKED!

You have no way of knowing if that is true or not.

He's so embarrassed and he keeps talking paranoia.

He seems more annoyed and with good reason, the woman and her creepy lawyer both seemed extremely annoying

If he were an innocent man, he wouldn't be babbling like a demented gibbon like he is. He must be having something to hide since he keeps on moaning + groaning and wailing like a crybaby all the time.

What a bunch of BS! If you are innocent, that means you’re not allowed to comment on the matter? Of course you have every right to make any comment you wish, especially if you feel that that person is falsely accusing you of something or an act that you didn’t commit

He's always putting others down and now he's all red-faced that the world knows that he loves getting SPANKY SPANKY.

If you have any irrefutable poof of it, please share it with us.

He won't reveal his taxes, he doesn't respect the Constitution and he's like a dictator. 

If you were a dictator thousands of people in this country will be murdered, hung off every lamppost and the Democrats would all be incarcerated and awaiting the noose.

He's unworthy to be the head of a civilized nation. 

Half of the country doesn’t think so.

The FBI didn't need to infiltrate his 2016 campaign because his treason, belligerency, prejudice, vanity, perversion and selfishness are all apparent. He made them very clear to everyone, and his supporters KNOW that he is a Fake President.

The intelligence agencies have their own problems ahead of them, very serious problems and if I were them just like with James Comey, I would lawyer up to the max

Half of the country doesn’t think so.

Not even half the voters supported him, much less half the nation. He couldn't even get as many votes as his opponent. Even including those Californians who you consider a lesser people who shouldn't have an equal vote to other Americans.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fbi-support-is-eroding-but-most-americans-still-back-bureau-poll-says

Supporting and increasingly eroding The witchhunt investigation starting to weigh on peoples minds and it’s a good thing. Now that the gap is closing between the Republicans and Democrats, the so-called Bluewave seems to be not looking that great he these days.

I love it: "this witch hunt is bias".

Yes.

Reminds me of when you spoke of Hillary Clinton as "an ugly old hag who calls people names" or something as equally hypocritical.

Ugly old hag? I never said that.

NO ONE is more bias than your sad excuse for a president, and Giuliani

No, no one was more bias than the last administration. As a matter of fact, they were so buyers, they excluded them from almost any part of the legislation process.

-- the guy you endorsed 100% and said was here to save the day --

Which he is doing, despite all the liberal assault hurled at him.

proves that by doing almost as many 180s as you do... on the guy you called lunatic before he won the Republican nod.

Yes, but I was ignorant then it now I woke up.

Enjoy your last hurrah. The demographics say anything you do will be erased in the future.

Enjoy your last hurrah. The demographics say anything you do will be erased in the future.

Buddy, maybe after you and I are long gone from this planet.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/2018-midterm-elections-republicans-take-lead-on-a-generic-ballot.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/02/28/democrats-cant-get-their-act-together-california-theyll-lose-2018-all-together-kurt-bardella-column/376749002/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/14/california-republicans-midterms-walters-584289

Steve Bannon of the alt-right, on a BBC News interview this evening, stated he didn't think Mueller should be sacked and went on to praise his dedication and service to his country.

Well, even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Which is probably giving Bannon more credit than he's due...

If Mueller is fired, America under Trump will have slid further into the abyss. It may well backfire on the PotUS.

If Mueller is fired,

Mueller will not be fired, we all know the Weasley fascist left want nothing more than for Trump to fire Mueller, but he’s not that stupid, he’ll just let him continue the witch hunt. Giuliani already made a deal to cut the interview questions to from 50 to 10-20 and to keep them focused and narrow and not wander off like a dog, he’ll have his lawyers present, they will go over the questions and now that we know the DOJ planted a spy within the Trump Campaign add to that the investigation is coming more and more under scrutiny and from one federal judge Ellis called out Mueller’s witch hunt for what it is, works in Trump’s favor with all this and growing suspicion about Clapper’s and Brennen’s roll, not to mention that threatening tweet the other day to the GOP congress will probably call a dismissal to this entire thing.

America under Trump will have slid further into the abyss.

No, he’s pulling it desperately out of the death spiral it was in over the last 8 stagnant years.

It may well backfire on the PotUS.

Oh, I seriously doubt that.

Well when we post polls you require a complete analysis as to the people, demographics, the questions, etc., but I'm not seeing you offer that up for your own links.

Do you require special rules in order to participate in the debates? I'm happy to do that for you. We will give you the extra information, and you do not have to. And you can choose to not believe polls you don't like. We can give you that crutch as well.

Well when we post polls you require a complete analysis as to the people, demographics, the questions, etc., but I'm not seeing you offer that up for your own links.

Because you always are so hung up on polls, the polls all said Trump was going to lose as well. Liberals love polls when it fits their narrative, when it doesn’t they dismiss them, so I presented a poll, one from a liberal source showing that the gap is closing between the Dems and Repubs for the upcoming midterm elections, the Dems don’t have the solid lead they once had and that is making a lot of libs extremely concerned because the Dems taking back the House is not a sure fire thing anymore.

Do you require special rules in order to participate in the debates? I'm happy to do that for you. We will give you the extra information, and you do not have to. And you can choose to not believe polls you don't like. We can give you that crutch as well.

That’s ok, been around too long in this business for anyone on this site to teach me anything, but I do appreciate the kind offer.

That’s ok, been around too long in this business for anyone on this site to teach me anything,

Oh, that's a shame. When a person starts to believe they know it all and can't learn from others, it's probably time to throw in the towel.

Applies to Trump as well as his followers but hell, it could do for any of us here. I've certainly learned that when you call out uber republicans on their lack of vision, consistency, honesty and common sense, they cannot bring themselves to admit even the occasional wrongdoing.

Instead it's whataboutery and some bobbins about "liberals".

This is why it doesn't matter anymore who sits in the White House. The divide in the USA is too vast to be bridged now, until the two party system is rebooted or replaced.

Liberals love polls when it fits their narrative, when it doesn’t they dismiss them

You are the one who has dismissed polls as useless/inaccurate/biased/wrong. You don't remember writing dozens of times, "Polls are meaningless...just look at the election!" You honestly have no memory of that?

We are the ones saying polls have value and we've never changed our position.

think he is in some hallucination; obvious he seems he was in contact with Kremin or others; if not why jittery? any one may ask. He tries to play all sorts of gymmic to escape - futile exercise - any way he ought to be careful more than anybody for he represents Americans as long as he is in white house , i think as a well wisher to trump. congress or senate need to be careful else a lot might get into problems positively in all probability is my fear.tks