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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.U.S. Democrats launch resolution to stop Trump border emergency
By Susan Cornwell WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Toasted Heretic
The sickly tyrant's power grab must be thwarted, if American values are to be preserved.
cla68
The wall is being built.
Laguna
True - that, and "Squirrel!" as Trump and his cohort's lawbreaking are exposed. Many are blinded by the right-wing "squirrel!" call.
Chip Star
The lawsuits challenge Truml's power grab are some of the most beautiful lawsuits ever. Okay. Those lawsuits will wind their way through the most amazing justice system in the world. It will be years before any wall is built. Believe me.
bass4funk
Ok and “IF” it passes in the Senate, Trump Vetoes it, so what?
plasticmonkey
First, Obama did not issue a national emergency for DACA. It was an enforcement issue. I can understand why some were opposed to this action, but it's not the same thing as declaring a national emergency.Trump's wall is a waste of money. Experts across the political spectrum agree on this.
Second, DACA saved money and freed up immigration officials to prioritize going after criminal aliens rather than going after everybody. Trump's wall is a waste of money. Experts across the political spectrum agree on this. (The following is not just commentary. There are facts in there.)
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-wall-wont-work
Third, DACA was a practical step toward solving a complex problem in a realistic and humanitarian way. Trump's wall is virtually useless in solving any immigration problems. It is pure and naked political pandering to his base, to whom he promised this boondoggle on the advice of Roger Stone.
bass4funk
He could have left the issue until Congress took a vote on it. But he didn’t. At any case, I don’t think they can get enough votes in the Senate to pass the measure and if they do, Trump will use his pen and phone.
SuperLib
If Trump loses, the Democrats win. If Trump wins, the Democrats win more.
Master negotiator.
CrazyJoe
Put them all on record. I look forward to seeing the votes.
The Senate Republican votes are the ones to memorialize in stone and hang around their necks in their 2020 campaigns. McConnell, Cornyn, Ernst, Tillis, Perdue, McSalley. and others that are in play.
Blacklabel
Pen and phone. I like it.
Serrano
Trump's wall is virtually useless in solving any immigration problems.
That's not what border patrol says.
The title should have read "House Democrats introduce bill to increase crime, illegal immigration, illegal drugs and human trafficking"
SuperLib
Well if we take money from drug interdiction programs, something Trump is trying to divert funds from, then it would follow that we'd see an increase in drugs entering the country.
If you think about it, it's actually pretty crazy. We're going to take funds from a program that works to stop illegal drug entries and build a wall that will stop nothing at all.
Serrano
Crazy Maxine Waters says those who want a wall are unpatriotic.
I’d say praising the rioting and destruction of private property during the LA riots was unpatriotic.
bass4funk
The Democrats get angrier.
In a warped alternate universe??
Master negotiator, Yup.
SuperLib
We shall see. The minority have shown their contempt of the will of the people in our democracy. Time to change the system?
bass4funk
Are Democrats even capable of changing?
plasticmonkey
Yes, that's what "border patrol" says.
Trump and his sycophants say otherwise, and they're full of it.
plasticmonkey
What's this obsession with Maxine Waters? She doesn't represent the heart and soul of the Democratic Party any more than Louis Gohmert and Matt Gaetz represent the heart and soul of the GOP.
On the other hand, maybe these fellers do represent the heart and soul of the GOP.
bass4funk
No, that’s not what they say.
https://youtu.be/yVyAJCBQX4A
Yes, full of the truth.
lincolnman
This is the type of fantasy that passes as reality in Trump World - here are some others...
"Trump is a faithful husband..."
"No one associated with Trump lies under oath..."
"Roger Stone isn't creepy..."
"The meeting at Trump Tower with Russians was about adoptions"....woops, already got caught on that one...
Speaking of this last one, question for the Trumpers;
Why did Don Jr, Jared, and Manafort agree to meet with Russians at Trump Tower? Why once this meeting became known, did they draft a false memo stating the meeting was about adoptions? Why did Trump deny writing the memo?
Why did Don Jr and Jared lie about the meeting?
Why did Trump write the memo lying about the meeting?
Why did they agree to meet with a foreign government to get dirt on Hillary?
Chip Star
Someone doesn't understand that Congress isn't responsible for enforcing the laws because that's the president's responsibility. ROFL! Smh. Lol. Kudos!
u_s__reamer
Since the tightwad Mexicans simply laugh at the gringo loco in la Casa Blanca, the proposed profligate waste of American taxpayers' hard-earned money on Humpty Trumpty's wall is a clear indication of presidential dementia that cries out for the 25th, whereas the legalization of drugs would be much more cost-effective than the Great Wall of Trump. Such a policy would more than pay for itself by drastically reducing the cost of law enforcement and incarceration. It would provide a massive boost to job seekers willing to work in nationwide clinics as medical staff and social workers to treat and rehabilitate addicts. Government oversight of production and sales rather than handing the business over to private companies (OMG! Socializm!) would ensure quality and safety, and the profits would help to finance some of the social programs sorely needed to improve the quality of life for people left behind by the "Amerkan Dream".
Serrano
No, that’s not what they say.
https://youtu.be/yVyAJCBQX4A
Thanks for the link, bass. Ya think plasticmonkey will ever bother watching it and learn something?
This will become a test of how craven the GOP Senate actually is
Yeah, expat, we still got too many RINOS in the Senate and the House. We've seen how crazy the majority of the Democrats in Congress are. Pelosi and Schumer should be impeached.
SuperLib
So you don’t have the support of the Democrats or the RINOs? Just how small is your minority?
Serrano
So you don’t have the support of the Democrats or the RINOs? Just how small is your minority?
I'm with the 80% who don't approve of this Congress.
mukashiyokatta
The Democrats will succeed because the only emergency is in the White House.
SuperLib
If were throwing around irrelevant stats regarding the border wall, I’m with the majority who prefers Coke to Pepsi,
Wolfpack
Dems will stop at nothing to realize their open borders international socialist dreams. What is ironic about the Dems lawsuit is that they had no problem with Obama using executive fiat to use unappropriated funds to prop up Obamacare and to pay for processing costs for DACA and DAPA. They were able to get this past the Liberal courts. At least Trump can argue that he is using executive powers to enforce the laws that Congress passed. That wasn’t the case for the last administration.
plasticmonkey
I bothered watching it. It’s simply an anecdotal account. I prefer educating myself with the broader facts. You might want to try that sometime.
= Not wanting to waste money on an ineffective boondoggle.
Serrano
I bothered watching it. It’s simply an anecdotal account. I prefer educating myself with the broader facts. You might want to try that sometime.
So you heard our border patrol people say a physical barrier is needed, yet you dismiss it. Incredible...
Not wanting to waste money on an ineffective boondoggle
Great! Let's sending money to the UN and countries that are not our allies.
SuperLib
The border patrol union was against the wall until January 4. They even had quite a few reasons listed on the website, chief among them was that it wasn’t an effective use of resources. Then poof it was suddenly removed.
I guess the union got together and collectively did a 180. What timing.
Serrano
I guess the union got together and collectively did a 180. What timing
Oh my...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/border-patrol-agents-back-trump-wall-survey-finds/
plasticmonkey
I heard two border patrol people say something like what you claim. Two people. That's quite a sample.
plasticmonkey
Of course. Read the fine print. Most Democrats support a "wall system in strategic locations" as well. And you know what? Such a system already exists in strategic locations.
Trump's idea is not strategic in any sense except to make people like you salivate.
Serrano
SCOTUS will uphold the state of emergency. The Democrats are wasting their time attempting to fight the president.
arrestpaul
Believe you? There are already walls in place. The caravans of illegal aliens who invaded Mexico on their way to the U.S. have been stopped in Mexico by the very walls you ignore.
arrestpaul
The first thing that elected Democrats will have to prove, in the courts, is that the POTUS doesn't have the constitutional authority to declare a national emergency. After that effort ends in failure, the Democrats will try to find another way of allowing illegal aliens to vote in U.S. elections.