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U.S. House passes measure to limit Trump's ability to wage war on Iran

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Good. Trump seems to think he is supreme leader. He is not.

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Well Done! Don't let this newly revealed NEOCON start a third war in the Middle East.

Donnie is a NEOCON and is in partnership with his NEOCON SECSTATE who is a devoted follower of the cabal that brought us the 2003 Iraq War - which Candidate Trump said was the worst foreign policy mistake in our country's history...

My my - some flip-flop huh?

Now one Trumper here states he and Donnie are NEOCONs - and proudly wears his war monger badge...

And all those promises of bringing the troops home, stopping endless wars, no more blood in the sand?

As empty as "Mexico will pay for the wall, mark my words"....

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I don't believe DT is a NeoCon and I don't believe he wants a war with Iran.  This vote is just hypocrisy.  Obama and the Bushes were not rebuked like this.  Nor did they get prior permission or even consult when they went on the rampage ion the Middle East.

This notion that Obama and Hillary were somehow "anti-war" and anti targeted killings is really ridiculous.  Their track record was totally otherwise.  DT has been a model of restraint thus far.

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Well Done!

It means nothing, wait until it gets to the Senate and even if the Senate were to restrict him, he can just veto the measure and even if both chambers would try to override it. Doubt they’ll get 67 votes to override the veto.

Don't let this newly revealed NEOCON start a third war in the Middle East.

As long as the Mullahs and their proxies don’t try to kill our people, it won’t come to that.

My my - some flip-flop huh?

It can be beneficial at times.

Now one Trumper here states he and Donnie are NEOCONs - and proudly wears his war monger badge...

If it means keeping the country and our people safe, liberals can call it whatever they want. Sticks and stones....lol

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I don't believe DT is a NeoCon

Who knows what Trump believes; he's all over the map. He's lied and flip-flopped so many times it's hard to know what he believes in other than further enriching his family and predatory capitalism.

But Trump brought Pompeo, Bolton (thankfully gone), Elliot Abrams, and little Stephen Miller into his admin, suggesting he wants neocons nearby. Plus he listens to Fox and Comrades pushing for more defense spending and wars.

Obama and Hillary 

When Trump supporters can't defend him, they mention Obama and Hillary.

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This notion that Obama and Hillary were somehow "anti-war" and anti targeted killings is really ridiculous. Their track record was totally otherwise. DT has been a model of restraint thus far.

Model of restraint? Well. I guess if you set a Red Line - then blink when someone steps over it could be called restraint. When Obama did it in Syria Trumpers called it caving....Hmmmmm.....

Well Done!

It means nothing, wait until it gets to the Senate and even if the Senate were to restrict him, he can just veto the measure and even if both chambers would try to override it. Doubt they’ll get 67 votes to override the veto.

More NEOCON analysis....

Don't let this newly revealed NEOCON start a third war in the Middle East.

As long as the Mullahs and their proxies don’t try to kill our people, it won’t come to that.

The Ayatollah already said today the missile strikes weren't enough...

Time for that third Middle East War all the NEOCONs have been dreaming of....

My my - some flip-flop huh?

It can be beneficial at times.

Thanks for admitting it was a huge flip-flop...

Now one Trumper here states he and Donnie are NEOCONs - and proudly wears his war monger badge...

If it means keeping the country and our people safe, liberals can call it whatever they want. Sticks and stones....lol

Glad you are proud of your NEOCON badge - what about all the other Trumpers here - are you proud NEOCONs too - just like George W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Graham, McCain?

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What Trump did was not out of line with what other presidents in the past have done.

If Trump had briefed the Democratic leadership on his actions, there would have been no complaining, only problem is Trump doesnt brief anyone before he acts!

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Trump waging war on Iran ?

When ?

He isnt waging war on iran, Pelosi and the other nutters need to wake themself up from their alcohol daze, all she is doing is trying to empower her friends the terrorists and those who hate trump the enemy, they are traitors !

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More NEOCON analysis....

More like the Constitution and Presidential executive powers.

The Ayatollah already said today the missile strikes weren't enough...

Then he should proceed at his own peril, but I really think the Mullahs are not suicidal.

Thanks for admitting it was a huge flip-flop...

Ok.

Glad you are proud of your NEOCON badge - what about all the other Trumpers here - are you proud NEOCONs too - just like George W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Graham.

Wasnt McCain a Democrat?

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More NEOCON analysis....

More like the Constitution and Presidential executive powers.

Via Russia Today...

The Ayatollah already said today the missile strikes weren't enough...

Then he should proceed at his own peril, but I really think the Mullahs are not suicidal.

They're not worried, they already saw Donnie blink and fold over his last Red Line...

Thanks for admitting it was a huge flip-flop...

Ok.

Trump the NEOCON it is from now on...

Glad you are proud of your NEOCON badge - what about all the other Trumpers here - are you proud NEOCONs too - just like George W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bolton, Graham.

Wasnt McCain a Democrat?

Don't know your own team members?

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The GOP see an opportunity in handing their power over to the Presidency. If they weaken it enough they can bury the whole branch and focus on keeping a Republican President instead.

McConnell broke when America elected a black, centrist candidate.

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Hmmmmm.....  Wouldn't say I am a "Trump supporter".    My comments really about the hypocrisy of all the opposition to him and his actions.  Mention of the prior administration is because DT is painted as somehow representing a far more warlike or undemocratic president when that is just not the case.  If anything the opposite - he has been subjected to way more scrutiny and interference in his administration than most of his recent predecessors.  Except Smokin' Bill maybe, but that was because he was Epstein in the Oval Office......

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there is no war. which is a good thing.

but lets scream NEOCON, flip flop, cave all day today too, anyway.

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Blacklabel: "there is no war. which is a good thing."

No thanks to you guys. YOu guys were supporting Trump when it looked like it would lead to full-out war (and still may), and some of the nutbags you guys love, like Lindsay Graham (does almost about as many 180s as you guys on here), STILL want to go to war and are accusing the GOP members who supported this of being "Benedict Arnolds" and what not. Hell, Lou Dobbs nearly had his fifth stroke from being so far up Trump's behind that he can't breath when he pants and rants.

"but lets scream NEOCON, flip flop, cave all day today too, anyway."

Again, no one is flip-flopping (or deflecting, since you are doing so) like you guys. It is truly pathetic how transparent it is. Trump, and the US, literally lucked out that IRAN decided not to wipe those bases off the map, and that's all. They took the high road while Trump was panicking at his golf course over what he had done in taking the American General's "joke" suggestion of the extreme and ordering its execution, and while the US flailed and confused itself over what would come next. Generals in Iraq STILL Don't know if they are coming or going.

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Wakarimasen: "Except Smokin' Bill maybe, but that was because he was Epstein in the Oval Office......"

Well then that would make Trump the spawn of Epstein and Weinstein's combined rapes on unsuspecting Young girls, given what Trump has done, and people who claim to be religious and support Trump the David Dukes of Christianity. Oh wait, David Duke is a Christian and supports Trump very openly. Hmmm... well, it at least makes them the biggest hypocrites on the planet, along with comments like your own in this case.

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So IRAN took the high road? thats a new one. You guys are still in the grieving period for your beloved terrorist.

My condolences, where do I send a pallet of cash and a card to make it all better?

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Same rubbish from the same bunch of people hating on trump and anything he does, says, or doesnt say, or doesnt do. Seriously by now you guys would have come up with something original instead of the same old hate for this Rep Pres.

The democrats have done their best to ruin the United States and the States they run, and are determined to make sure the rest of the world can pick over the carcass , but so long as there is someone trying to Make it Great again their job is going to be just that much harder.

Oppose , side track, obstruct, divide, side line at every chance the pelosi bunch get, shouldnt they be helping to restore America to the force it once was instead of breaking it down at every opportunity?

Makes people really wonder what is their real agenda or motivation doesnt it, the enemy within ?

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I don't understand why republicans do not stand up for America and Americans. Instead, they follow the lead of an obvious disturbed president who should be Baker Acted immediately before he can completely destroy our country.

I do not care which party the president represents. We must not place the power of life and death or to possibly destroy the entire globe in ANY one persons hands!

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so Trump started this, right?

Recap:

Iran captured and held US sailors

Iran was paid billions to not develop nuclear weapons and return civilian hostages they took

Iran attacked a tanker

Iran fired rockets at our base, killing an Iraqi-American and injuring our soldiers

Iran attacked our Embassy, said nothing we can do about it

Iran flew their top terrorist leader to Iraq to plan further attacks

Trump eliminates terrorist and warns about any future provocation

Iran launches 15 missiles against a US base in Iraq.

Yeah, sounds like the USA is the bad guy here.

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Well then that would make Trump the spawn of Epstein and Weinstein's combined rapes on unsuspecting Young girls,

Actually, no proof of that, now Bill Clinton however....

https://nypost.com/2020/01/09/photos-show-bill-clinton-ghislaine-maxwell-on-epsteins-lolita-express-jet/

David Duke is a Christian and supports Trump very openly.

The Democrats supported Wilson and Senator Byrd, a former Grand Wizard

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I don't understand why republicans do not stand up for America and Americans. 

No, they do, that’s the reason why Trump will win re-election, the Democrats seem to be concerned more about Russia since they talk about it non-stop as well as socialism.

Instead, they follow the lead of an obvious disturbed president who should be Baker Acted immediately before he can completely destroy our country.

I see, so had an attack happened and American soldiers died, every liberal and every Trump hater would say to the President not wanting or willing to do anything, great job and thank you Mr. President. “Yes, some people had to die, but better them than going to war.” Now I know liberals don’t believe that crap! If the President decided not to take action if there were an attack would inflame the Democrats and they know it, but I get it politics. Solimani, good guy.....yeah, sure.....

I do not care which party the president represents. We must not place the power of life and death or to possibly destroy the entire globe in ANY one persons hands!

I think in an emergency and Imminent danger, the president should have every right to use his executive powers to launch an attack. Congress can pound sand when there are only seconds to act.

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T.ypical Democrats siding with the enemy. No wonder our great President doesn't consult them. They would just inform the enemy of our intentions. These ridiculous democrat games do nothing but increase President Trump's majority at the coming up Presidential election.

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so Trump started this, right? Recap: Iran captured and held US sailors Iran was paid billions to not develop nuclear weapons and return civilian hostages they took Iran attacked a tanker Iran fired rockets at our base, killing an Iraqi-American and injuring our soldiers Iran attacked our Embassy, said nothing we can do about it

Iran flew their top terrorist leader to Iraq to plan further attacks Trump eliminates terrorist and warns about any future provocation Iran launches 15 missiles against a US base in Iraq. Yeah, sounds like the USA is the bad guy here.

Do you REALLY want to go down this road?

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Congress's measures don't go far enough. I and millions of others will only feel safe when Trump is put in a straight-jacket and institutionalized.

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Yubaru: He did brief Israel and Saudi-Arabia. This is because they would probably be the receiving end of eventual retaliations.

Invalid CSRF

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Just the Democrats trying to remain relevant, the Republicans control the Senate I doubt this will get passed.

Trump isn't going to war with Iran, that's why there was a targeted assassination in Iraq, I wouldn't be surprised that more of these take place in the future. The Iranians shot down a plane full of Iranians if it wasn't so serious it would be amusing - this is probably the real reason the Iranians have "stood down".

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Waste of time and more Trump bashing vs supporting and doing their responsible jobs. Enough witch hunting and stalling. The nation needs the HOUSE controlled Democrats to stop wasting time and get to the real issues facing the country or else get them all voted out and get fresh faces in.

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It really is inconceivable that a whole political party could be so hijacked by a group who can't get over the fact that they lost an election.

To drag the entire nation along with them as they prosecute every utterance, gesture and perceived action is utterly despicable.

They have spent the last few years of their salaried time prosecuting a lost election... And very little debating issues or providing anything constructive.

I've seen nothing but sower grapes and undermining white ant behaviour towards the undisputed and unequivocally elected and now, which must really gets their goat, President... Lol...

What would or could Congress do, if for instance some larger benifacting state was to use Iran as a proxy in an attack over a Chirtamas or the summer break. Or even god forbid were able to take out their building ala, Sutherland's, "Designated Survivor," style of event.

They could conceivably strike a telling or even fatal blow that the nation is unable to recover from.

The whole world is riding on the green back and whole nations have their currencies pinned to its success.

There have never been any shortages to the list of despots willing to upset that cart and inflict hardship wherever they can to expand their influence.

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Smith

I see.  so now I am also a hypocrite for simply pointing out that many previous presidents waged war, bobmbed, assassinated and similar without this level of noise from Congress?

How is Trump the spawn of Weinstein and Epstein?  Has he been accused or convicted of rape?  Sexual assault?  Paedophilia?  Bothering White House Interns?

Not sure what the David Dukes sentence is meant to imply or prove.

I don't much like him either, but think the irrational characterization of him as the Antichrist is both silly and obscures his real flaws.

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Has he been accused or convicted of rape? Sexual assault?  

Accused, Yes and Yes.

Paedophilia?

Walking into rooms where underage girls are dressing, well......

Convicted, neither is Weinstein!

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