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UK coronavirus deaths rise by 27%

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Britain is now warning about power blackouts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/11292200/coronavirus-energy-electricity-blackout/?utm_medium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly#comments

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Less cases and deaths than the other European countries, France, Spain, Italy and Germany. 25,150 cases and 1,789.

National Health workers, doctors and nurses not being tested and sent home if they have any kind of symptoms. Lack of PPE's for those front line workers. 10,000 NHS staff pen letter to Boris demanding proper protective equipment.

New 4,000 bed Nightingale hospital from a converted conference hall in 10 days and staffed by retired doctors and nurses.

8,000 tests/day with a target of 20,000. A leading scientist, Devi Snidhar professor of global public health at the Edinburgh University, claimed Britain didn't prepare for coronavirus testing because it planned to use the discredited 'herd immunity'.

Like my other family members in Rome and New York, those in London are dealing with the lock down and some of them with their loss of income.

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British officials said on Tuesday they saw tentative reasons for optimism.

I hope so, because 1,789 deaths out of 25,150 cases is a 7% death toll, far lower than Germany's 775 dead out of 71.808 cases (slightly over 1%) and up there with France's rate. And that's the first time I've seen reports of a 13-year old becoming a casualty, though there must have been others somewhere.

I hope we're not seeing the consequences of that early ill-advised decision to take a "gradual approach" to the problem.

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Sorry, meant to say "far higher than Germany's 775 dead..."

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The 13 year old died with the virus, not necessarily from the virus. He was already in hospital with a medical condition.

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Maybe a few replays of Boris Johnson bragging about shaking hands with people infected? Look what his leadership has done.

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The 13 year old died with the virus, not necessarily from the virus. He was already in hospital with a medical condition

Yes. You do wonder why this article didn’t add a quick sentence to point this out.

I’m not downplaying the seriousness of this situation, but accuracy matters.

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Maybe a few replays of Boris Johnson bragging about shaking hands with people infected? Look what his leadership has done.

On top of a decade of Tory austerity and cuts.

The NHS has to be a priority. Not just now but after all this has finished.

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The NHS was never a priority for the tories

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BigYen, that 25,150 cases figure is only the confirmed cases figure. The number of actual cases is far higher but unknown because testing is not yet widespread. The actual death toll is far less than 7% but with little confirmation it’s impossible to give an accurate figure. Said that not to minimise the tragedy, just to a little realism to the situation.

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The 13 year old died with the virus, not necessarily from the virus. He was already in hospital with a medical condition.

Is that true? I don't know if it's the same case, but in the BBC article below, according to his parents, the boy had no underlying health issues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52114476

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The boy had no underlying health conditions. He was admitted to hospital with breathing difficulties and was tested there.

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SwissToni:

Good point, appreciate the clarification.

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Is that true? I don't know if it's the same case, but in the BBC article below, according to his parents, the boy had no underlying health issues.

No it isn't true, just something that commenter took upon himself to assume.

And the thing about "with the virus, not from the virus" is a distortion of the concept. If the coronavirus infection triggered breathing difficulties for the child, with a rapid deterioration resulting in death (in this case, about four days), then the child died from the virus, even if there were comorbidities.

Arguing otherwise is like picking out the ultimate cause of death for any patient - pneumonia, cardiac arrest, dehydration - and deciding that the disease that brought it on, whether it's cancer, HIV/AIDS, cholera, or whatever - was not responsible.

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Bigyen:

far lower than Germany's 775 dead out of 71.808 cases (slightly over 1%)

Simple explanation: Germany is testing more, so of course includes a higher number of infected cases with no problems. We should always check what data we are comparing.-

Wipeout:

If the coronavirus infection triggered breathing difficulties for the child, with a rapid deterioration resulting in death (in this case, about four days), then the child died from the virus, even if there were comorbidities.

Yes, but there are many cases where you just don´t know. In which case it becomes a question of police if you add it to the Corona statistic or not. So obviously, different policies result in different statistics.

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