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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Johnson sends unsigned letter to EU asking for Brexit delay
By Elizabeth Piper and Kylie MacLellan LONDON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Serrano
Johnson had previously said he would rather be "dead in a ditch" than ask for any extension to the Oct 31 deadline.
But he was compelled, by a law passed last month by opponents, to send a letter to the bloc asking to push back the deadline to Jan. 31
Time for a general election, vote out the Remainer politicians, vote in the Brexit Party, leave the EU and get on with trade agreements with the U.S. and other countries.
wtfjapan
Johnson had previously said he would rather be "dead in a ditch" than ask for any extension to the
seems like another back down by Boris, but he didnt sign it so it didnt come from him LMFAO, got to love how real democracies actually make those in power comply with the laws.
Time for a general election, vote out the Remainer politicians, vote in the Brexit Party,
they can have a election after the Brexit fiasco is over,
Heres an idea maybe have an election with another Brexit vote at the same time ,that is legally binding. After all if your so sure youd win an election you must be sure youd win a legally binding Brexit vote. Wonder if Boris would take the bait. lol
indigo
like other country in Europe , they will make a new fake referendum to cancel this brexit proclaiming that people want to stay in Europe. democracy...? yes buddy...
Jimizo
What do you think of the policies of the Brexit Party?
Serrano
wtfjapan: Heres an idea maybe have an election with another Brexit vote at the same time ,that is legally binding. After all if your so sure youd win an election you must be sure youd win a legally binding Brexit vote.
Looks like they just might win -
Published Oct. 17, 2019
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/three-years-on-brexit-poll-puts-leave-ahead-by-8-points-pbwlctw7d
wtfjapan
Looks like they just might win -
but it pointless because the UK is leaving the EU, justy all depends on how much damage Boris can limit by doing it. No the US will never replace the EU as the UKs biggest trading partner , not unless Trump wants to give the UK zero tariffs across the board for all UK exports, LOL dont see that happening ever
mikeylikesit
This headline misses the most important point, and the article buries the lead in the fourth paragraph.
Johnson sent three letters, two of which undermined the letter asking for a delay. Johnson is playing to win by following the letter of the law. Britain should already be out of the EU. It's only capitulations to Remainer shenanigans that still have this drama playing out. The Benn Act said that the prime minister must send a letter, not that he must sign it or support it. Johnson met the requirement of the law and additionally made absolutely clear his prerogative as prime minister.
Remainers are utterly dishonest with their calls for delays. They've scuttled the deal that Johnson worked out after they forced him to work out a deal. It was as good of a deal as one could reasonably expect. Johnson didn't put any poison pills in the deal so that he could justify a Hard Brexit. From the Remainers, there is no interest in a deal of any kind. Remainers will vote down any deal, in defiance of the British people.
There are now two choices: Let the clock expire, and Britain is out of the EU, or obtain a delay long enough to hold a general election, handing the British people an opportunity to deal with the Remainers. Remainers will shriek at either option, but what can they ultimately do? Nullify the popular vote?
mikeylikesit
Are you suggesting that the original referendum to leave the EU was not legally binding? If so, there is very little else you can say that has any credibility. Advocating vote after vote after vote until you get the result you like is an utterly destructive way to run a democracy.
Remainers are currently defying the British people, whom they view with contempt. The British people legally obligated Parliament to leave the EU by a specific date. Remainers in Parliament have not yet found a way to nullify that vote, but they have used every possible means to delay Brexit, hoping to find a way to undo it. If these elitists force vote after vote until they get their preferred result, then declare the matter settled, the British people should be merciless toward them.
Strangerland
Non-binding referendum.
albaleo
I hear this argument a lot (sometimes referred to as a neverendum), but I don't buy it. Only a government can hold a referendum, and assuming the government was democratically elected, the electorate can vote for a different government if they don't want another referendum.
Norman Goodman
Enough time has passed between the last referendum to have a new one. Besides its quite clear the public was sleeping during the first one.
Simon Foston
Yep. Parliament is sovereign. It can amend or revoke any law. It could vote to abolish the House of Lords or the monarchy. It can certainly ignore a referendum.
Serrano
Parliament is sovereign. It can amend or revoke any law. It could vote to abolish the House of Lords or the monarchy. It can certainly ignore a referendum.
Better vote in the Brexit Party then if you want to save your country from the EU.
Ah_so
Technically, not legally binding. You can argue that it was morality binding, however.
Only 36% of eligible voters voted for Brexit. Hardly the will of the people.
One statement, two errors. Parliament was neither obligated to leave or do so by a specific date. Did you not see the referendum question?
I think you mean the 36% (and shrinking) of the electorate. I think remain could put more on a march - younger, fitter, stronger.
Jimizo
What’s your take on the Brexit party’s policies regarding say, taxation, the NHS, education, defence, environment and energy?
Let us know and tell us why these are attractive policies.
coskuri
Not Britain but the Post-Britain-Territories would be out of marmite, out of half of their grocery list...
How could an impossible absurdity be binding ? 2 of the Nations very clearly voted remain. 2 voted leave. Which one is binding ? The leave or the remain ? Or each one goes where they want, NI reunifiying with Ireland and Scotland with Denmark ?
So ? He's buried himself already ?
ClippetyClop
Less promises to break I suppose.
You need to be able to add 'who voted' on the end of this to make it relevant.
The voting population is aging, and as we are often told that they are ones that voted for this then you could argue the opposite.
If Brexit is somehow avoided, it's just postponing the inevitable for another generation who will possibly be even less prepared. Britain was always destined to leave the EU, crack on with it.
wtfjapan
Better vote in the Brexit Party then if you want to save your country from the EU.
Uk wont have to save themselves from the EU theyll have to save themselves from themselves, UK economy is going to take a big hit after Brexit, the free ride is over no more 0% tarriffs for UK exports to the EU. 60% of current UK manufacturing is sold to the EU, do you think Trump is going to buy up all that surplus. LOL
Simon Foston
SerranoToday 06:36 pm JST
Right, I'll just leave Japan and relocate to the UK so that I can vote. Did you actually know that British Citizens living overseas can't vote in UK elections?
Not particularly. I'm not that interested in saving the UK from the EU and I don't think you are either. Brexit would be a "win" for your hero Mr. Trump, thus vindicating the rather creepy way you idolize him, and anything that destablised and weakened Western Europe would suit his dear pal Mr. Putin.
Luddite
It wasn't.
Johnson is a lame duck PM, he's also putting himself in contempt of Court with the ridiculous letters he has sent.
Simon Foston
zichiToday 08:45 pm JST
I think you know better than me but in any case it includes me too. So I find suggestions that I vote for the Brexit Party a bit laughable.
arrestpaul
And yet there has been an incredible amount of time, money, energy, and manpower spent dealing with a referendum that you consider non-binding. There has 3 (three) PM's since this "non-binding" vote has taken place, and those changes were brought about because of this "non-binding" referendum. Apparently the Brits don't agree with your assessment.
A democratic people held a democratic vote, and the results were to leave the E.U.. The only reason that they haven't left the E.U. has been the devious delaying action of some MP's who have chosen to ignore the will of the voters.
Luddite
It's not a matter of opinion, but a fact. The referendum was not legally binding.
Simon Foston
arrestpaulToday 08:12 am JST
That's because none of the pro-Brexit politicians had the faintest idea what to do next, the wording of the 2016 referendum being so vague as to be totally useless.
arrestpaul
Useless to you perhaps. Maybe you are expecting the political parties to use the ramblings found on the internet as a guide for government action? It's the elected representatives of a so-called democracy who intend thwart the democratic will of the people who are responsible for undermining democracy.