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Biden, fellow Democrats focus on healthcare in Supreme Court fight

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President Trump is trying to throw out the Affordable Care Act. He has been trying to do this for four years,

Trump has 'promised' many times he's got a better-than-Obamacare health plan.

But then Trump also promised Mexico would pay for his wall.

And he'd release his tax forms.

And the corona virus would go away without a vaccine. Etc etc etc.

Not a word Trump, anyone in his admin, anyone from the Republicans rapid response team, and most of his supporters say can be believed.

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Trump is a tool for the 'elite' 'establishment', especially those in the DC legal swamp. He's doing the bidding of the Federalist Society.

Within the Federalist Society, is an operation funded by dark money and designed to remake our judiciary on behalf of a distinct group of very wealthy anonymous funders.

https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/speeches/the-third-federalist-society

 Federalist Society had reached an "unprecedented peak of power and influence." Of the current eight members of the Supreme Court of the United States, five (Brett Kavanaugh, Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, John Roberts, Samuel Alito), along with nominee Amy Coney Barrett, are current or former members of the organization

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This is the right approach. Protection for pre-existing conditions is a winning message. Maybe not for Trump cultists who will foolishly vote against their own self interests, but for enough sane on-the-fence voters to tip the Senate.

And the Dems need to leave Roe out of it. Her position is well-known. What isn’t as well known is her opposition to the ACA, more liberal gun regulations, anti-regulation in general. Think Scalia in a dress...and I apologize in advance for putting that picture in your head.

NY Times: Trump paid $750 in US income taxes in 2016, 2017

https://news.yahoo.com/ny-times-trump-paid-750-214154920.html

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Trump is also discussing overturning Roe Vs Wade with his Republican leaning supreme court.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/27/trump-amy-coney-barrett-supreme-court-roe-v-wade

In doing so, it would erode the constitutional separation of church and state.

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The news on Trump's tax returns are no surprise whatsoever - I have said here a number of times that his tax returns would show that he doesn't pay tax and so it is no surprise that that is exactly what they show.

A bit off topic maybe, but he will be desperate to throw a diversion to shrug off this news. Keeping the focus on the Supreme Court appointment will help him keep that the focus of the news.

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Everybody except the fooled knows the teleprompted Trump is a tool, of the Federalist Society and other moneyed, reactionary special interest groups who have provided him with the protection of the "Emperor's New Clothes". However, the tipping point has already arrived as Biden/Harris now head into the final stretch provided with the tailwind of the majority of Americans who are loudly voicing their opposition to the disastrous four years of Trump's malfeasance and misgovernment: "Vote him out!" is the writing on the wall which the appointment of ACB to the USSC will not erase.

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With Republicans controlling the Senate, Democrats have little leverage to prevent a quick vote on Barrett before the Nov. 3 election and almost no hope of preventing her confirmation.

It doesn't matter what tactics the Harris/Biden ticket attempts to perform for Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation hearing. Amy Coney Barrett will be the next Supreme Court Justice. And there is nothing that the democrat party can do about it. However, it will be amusing to watch elected democrats in the U.S. Senate alienating independent voters with their childish attacks on a highly qualified jurist, who is also a woman. Will the "me too" movement jump to Barrett's defense?

Every elected democrat has flip-flopped their 2016 position on whether a President should select a Supreme in the months before a Presidential election. That was then, this is now. Do as we say, not as we do. Just believe what we're telling you now, and forget what we told you in the past.

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Trump has 'promised' many times he's got a better-than-Obamacare health plan.

Democrats had promised that Obamacare is affordable and it's not, so how is it great when I can't afford the thing and I have to pay for extra subsidies that i will never use?

But then Trump also promised Mexico would pay for his wall.

The wall is coming along fine, that's the only thing that matters at this point.

And the corona virus would go away without a vaccine. Etc etc etc.

Democrats have already stated they don't trust Trump and this vaccine (as if mixed it himself ROFL!) and they are the ones that said to listen to the experts, now they're once again contradicting themselves? Unbelievable.

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If Dems retail the House and gain the Senate and presidency, they need to expand the court to 13 justices and then appoint three young liberals.

Packing the court would be a bad precedent. I agree that the Republicans are being extremely hypocritical with this, but even if the Democrats win the House, Senate, and Presidency, they won't keep it forever. Who wants the Republicans to pack the court once they get back control at some point in the future? I don't. Lick your wounds with this loss and then use legislation (not the courts) to make the changes that are needed.

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Every elected democrat has flip-flopped their 2016 position on whether a President should select a Supreme in the months before a Presidential election. That was then, this is now. Do as we say, not as we do. Just believe what we're telling you now, and forget what we told you in the past.

Every elected Democrat? Really. Republicans didn’t? You know that they did.

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I get it. The ACA is not perfect, and should be bolstered to make it better. But I sure hope the GOP doesn't try to slap together an eight hour plan like they did in 2017. Back then, it was clear that their only purpose for putting that awful "plan" together was to get rid of Obamacare and feel proud of themselves. Conservatives cared nothing for Americans and put party before country. Thank God for McCain, Collins, and Murkowski for their level-headed thinking. Otherwise, millions of Americans would have suffered.

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Every elected Democrat? Really. Republicans didn’t? You know that they did.

Both sides flipped and flopped on the SC issue and neither side can point fingers at the other and no one holds the moral high ground on this and the fact of the matter is, Dems can't do anything about this process, they will just have to suck it up and take it, hold a deep breath and that'll be it.

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actually the opposite. This is the Dems and their media trying to distract from losing the Supreme Court appointment. moved on to the latest anti Trump narrative, as usual. after they lose the debate this week, back to some sexual or racial allegation again. never ending circular news cycle

Keeping the focus on the Supreme Court appointment will help him keep that the focus of the news.

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We are in this situation because the repubs kept blocking Obama nominations for federal judges,

I'm a conservative as are the conservatives I vote for and support, why on earth would these people appoint a liberal or even a left to center federal judge? Leave the emotion out of this for a moment, No right and level headed person would do that and the opposite holds true for the Democrats, they would never allow a hearing on a Trump nominee, never and you guys know this, not to mention Garland wasn't the GOPs ideal model for a true conservative and the Republican Senate constitutionally didn't have to hold hearings on a nominee they feel is not an idealogical purest,

so senate rules were changed to only requiring a simple majority for confirmation. Then, as a reaction to McConnell having refused to allow the senate to do its constitutional duty to hold confirmation hearings on Obama’s last SCOTUS nomination, Dems kept blocking Trump’s SCOTUS nominations. This led McConnell to yet again change the Senate rules so only a simple majority was needed to confirm SCOTUS nominations.

Thanks to Harry Reid for getting rid of the filibuster, he did help in making the process that much more easier.

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legislative filibuster. Which is different from the others he got rid of to help us get judges and the Supreme Court nominees.

thanks again Harry!

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This is interesting:

HHS secy contrasts Obamacare 'lies' with Trump's new healthcare plan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRpPDAw8JHE&t=246s

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hey can I keep my doctor this time?

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Weird that Harry Reid would be calling for the filibuster to be abolished AFTER he got rid of it.

And yet, he did and in the end, it helps speed the SC process that much faster with less opposition from Dems, so they should be quiet and let this inevitable take place.

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Did Trump tell me I could keep my doctor? I dont think he has mentioned that yet. While the other person who did mention that specifically, he would be a liar.

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You people will never learn that you cannot win the “BUT he lied!” game if you support Trump.

What? Sorry, that dancing around doesn't help Dems and it doesn't help Biden.

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The ACA will be fine. This latest challenge is their weakest yet.

Besides, the GOP hopes the challenge will fail as their have no alternative. Suddenly pre-existing conditions won't be covered and their base will hold them responsible.

Bass:. so how is it great when I can't afford the thing

Huh? You get free socialist coverage from the US government as does most of your family who you claim is in law enforcement or the military.

And you don't even live in the US.

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The ACA will probably stand, but go belly up when it comes to premiums, if they can’t afford them which is the growing case the ACA will die a slow and in my opinion a justified death because you don’t and will never have enough people to keep it properly afloat for very long. It’ll be like a wounded animal that’s on its last leg and that is exactly what the ACA is.

Huh? You get free socialist coverage from the US government as does most of your family who you claim is in law enforcement or the military.

And you don't even live in the US.

Not US blanketed cradle to grave entitlements for the entire nation and there’s no way the system can afford to do this for 320 million people it just won’t happen and if the Dems win, they’ll bankrupt the country faster than Busta Rhymes can’t spit out lyrics

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We’re signing a health-care plan within two weeks, a full and complete health-care plan. - Donald Trump, July 19, 2020.

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Bass:. if they can’t afford them which is the growing case the ACA will die a slow and in my opinion a justified death

Then give us an alternative. You've had a decade. I'm more than happy to support a better plan if you can produce one.

if the Dems win, they’ll bankrupt the country

But the numbers show Obama shrank the deficit by half and Trump doubled it. You are using stereotypes rather than actual data.

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Then give us an alternative. You've had a decade.

And Democrats had 8 years make the ACA affordable and they didn’t do that.

I'm more than happy to support a better plan if you can produce one. 

I have private insurance, so...

But the numbers show Obama shrank the deficit by half and Trump doubled it.

And if Biden gets in estimates are he’ll triple what Trump accumulated

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