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Time then to shut down the Fox News Facebook page.

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So Black Nationalism and separatism will still be allowed, Zionism is allowed, Pan-Asian Nationalism is allowed, calls for de-colonization and complete autonomy of Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians is allowed, but only White Nationalism will be banned?

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Don't agree with censorship in general. But shutting out white nationalists doesn't bother me either. No room for racism.

My bigger fear, though, is how they will define white nationalists. I expect the definition will expand to include any speech that Facebook doesn't like, or any concerns about unchecked immigration.

Seems just a way of banning opposing opinions and tarring them with accusations of racism at the same time.

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions. There’s hours upon hours of good solid intellectual debate available online for those willing to put the time in to realise what’s at stake here. Be very careful you dont jump on the moral high ground bandwagon too quickly. Nuff said. 

Think for yourselves basically, dont let the idots suppressing speech do it for you.

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Good.

And before any mouth breathing fool wants to play devil's advocate, let's remember that FB doesn't allow for AQ or ISIL either. If you can't understand the nature of both ideologies as terrorism, then you'll eagerly embarrass yourself when talking about "censorship" and "free speech."

Good riddance.

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

Thankfully for white supremacy and nationalists 4chan and 8chan are still up and accepting all content. Thankfully NZ has banned their repugnant sites.

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FaceBook and all the other major social networking sites should ban all forms of extremism left and right. Bullying. Porn revenge.

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The ACLU raises some important points, via NPR:

Vera Eidelman, staff attorney with the ACLU's Speech, Privacy and Technology Project, tells NPR by email, "White supremacist, nationalist and separatist views are repugnant, and Facebook as a private company is well within its rights to remove such hate and bigotry from its platform. Indeed, any content that crosses the line into incitement or true threats is not protected speech."

"In its attempts to police the speech of over two billion people, Facebook runs the risk of censoring those that attack white nationalism, too," says Eidelman. "Further, every time Facebook makes the choice to remove content, a single company is exercising an unchecked power to silence individuals and remove them from what has become an indispensable platform."

Eidelman says nothing is stopping Facebook or other platforms from using the same power to censor content on other topics, such as abortion rights or climate change. "For the same reason that the Constitution prevents the government from exercising such power, we should be wary of encouraging its exercise by corporations that are answerable to their private shareholders rather than the broader public interest," she says.

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So are they now going to ban hate speech from Islamofacists, Black Panther groups and others too?

Or is it just white folks that get the ax?

12 ( +16 / -4 )

So Trump will finally be banned?

-8 ( +6 / -14 )

About time. This only in the face of immense pressure. Better than nothing, though. The question is, will they also ban people that espouse it? Bye bye half of the Trumpers!

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

So in a fair and equal world they ought to be banning praise, support and representation of red, white, blue or any skin-color-based nationalism or separatism, whereas pride in any ethnic heritage is fine.

Correct?

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Maybe they should throw in the word supremacy too, including any religious supremacy.

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Delighted to see the back of the "Hail Trump" crowd.

Platforms for hate don't usually espouse tolerance, peace and love, so there's no reason to be tolerant of them.

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Hate speech has been occurring more and more on social media for at least a decade, and FB is in effect becoming more and more irrelevant in the fast paced world we now live in.

I get the feel the feeling that part of the reason that FB made this decision in the first place is to get the publicity.

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Time then to shut down the Fox News Facebook page

If they ever were, then whey would probably do that. Hopefully, they’ll look at CNN.

So Black Nationalism and separatism will still be allowed, Zionism is allowed, Pan-Asian Nationalism is allowed, calls for de-colonization and complete autonomy of Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians is allowed, but only White Nationalism will be banned?

Bingo! If only the bigwigs at Facebook were as perceptive to that exact point as you are.

Platforms for hate don't usually espouse tolerance, peace and love, so there's no reason to be tolerant of them.

Will this get the progressive socialists banned as well? Seems like a lot of these White Nationalists are not conservative at all.

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Will this get the progressive socialists banned as well?

No, because they tend not to espouse white genocide theories and inspire their followers to murder other people.

-3 ( +7 / -10 )

Does anyone still use FB?

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Does anyone still use FB?

Some of us oldies do, to keep in touch with family and friends, aye.

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Sincere apologies to the person who was offended by the above post of mine. Some of us who are not as young and with it, as the latest tech-savvy generation, we use the FB platform to engage with and contact with our loved ones and our friends, who we miss so very much.

I hope that's more acceptable x

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Sincere apologies to the person who was offended by my sincere apologies to the person who was offended by a previous post.

You'll be old, too, one day :-)

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It's good that we start calling these groups out. They are becoming a danger to society.

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Only Politically Correct speech approved by appropriate authorities is to be tolerated. Deviation will soon result in confinement in re education facilities.

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so what kind is speech would be banned? I don’t really know what they mean by white nationalism.

saying Arpartheid was good? Would that be banned?

i‘ve seen horrible comments of Facebook about how white farmers in Sourh Africa deserve to be raped and killed and they all need to leave. If that can stay it seems likes it’s going to be a pretty strange world

4 ( +7 / -3 )

I like how it's ONLY Trump fans that are outraged by this. Surprised, anyone?

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9gag is better than FaceBook in this regards. 9gag is full of white nationalist... jokes, because unlike FaceBook, it's frequented by people with a sense of humor - and a sense of "if it is offensive, so what, just move along and don't worry about it."

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Facebook has been charged with housing discrimination by the US government

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Surely banning all hateful types advocating violence is the way forward.

I don’t think banning the views of headbangers like racists or any other trash is the right thing to do as long as they aren’t advocating violence.

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Some of the initiatives in this blurb are seeming to go in a real WRONG direction, sounds potentially very ANTI-free speech!

Look I don't like racists, or white supremist types one bit, but we need to be very careful what is being banned & targeting only supposed WHITE related speech, scary stuff!

I WANT to be able to read what people think, EVEN stuff I DO NOT LIKE OR AGREE WITH!!!

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No, because they tend not to espouse white genocide theories and inspire their followers to murder other people.

So then the radical idiot that tried to murder Scalise and a bunch of Republicans, the DC Sniper and what about the Democrat policies of Chicago, they must hate Blacks because they haven’t done anything to quell the violence in that city, not to mention, you have that loser Smollett that tried to incite a race riot for his own personal benefit. Liberals don’t do the Roman salute, but their policies have been harmful toxin towards people of color.

Ban extreme Islam, Black groups, etc too. 

And anyone who still thinks Trump is a racist

I definitely agree with that.

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Jimizo: "I don’t think banning the views of headbangers like racists or any other trash is the right thing to do as long as they aren’t advocating violence."

Why not? We've all seen what it leads to. Hate speech is hate speech, and should be banned, regardless of whom and where it comes from, and BEFORE it leads to violence.

GW: "Look I don't like racists, or white supremist types one bit, but we need to be very careful what is being banned & targeting only supposed WHITE related speech, scary stuff!"

What on earth are you talking about with "only supposed WHITE related speech"? FB has been criticized for ages for its unlimited efforts to stop any and all Islamic extremism (and rightly so) while essentially turning a blind eye on white supremacy and the kind of talk that the NZ shooter lapped up. Depending on whom you talk to they have a mixed bag on fighting anti-semitism, but the point is that they are only NOW targeting white supremacy and groups that support the radical views it espouses, while other forms of hate speech have been targeted for some time.

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Bass... do you really think Smollet gives a damn about trying to cause race riots? Smollet only cares about Smollet, and Smollet's pathetic career.

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I like how it's ONLY Trump fans that are outraged by this. Surprised, anyone?

No, we are outraged that they’re singling one racist group and ignoring the others, so that means people like Al Sharpton, Linda Sarsour or Farrakhan just to name a few, funny how FB isn’t calling these people out. So yes, we are outraged that FB would target only one radical racist hate group.

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do you really think Smollet gives a damn about trying to cause race riots? Smollet only cares about Smollet, and Smollet's pathetic career.

It’s so close to happening and this selfish idiot was upset because he was making $125K an episode, give me a break! I hope the FBI aggressively go after this sicko.

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bass: radical racist hate group

Glad to see we're on the same page about describing white nationalists.

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Bass... oh, yeah, good point. For once.

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Why not? We've all seen what it leads to. Hate speech is hate speech, and should be banned, regardless of whom and where it comes from, and BEFORE it leads to violence.

Hate speech is hate speech isn’t a very good definition. Got anything clearer?

@Belrick and Bass

Calling Trump a racist is not hate speech. Bitherism was a filthy campaign fueled by racism but Trump wasn’t and shouldn’t have been thrown off Twitter for it.

He was just ridiculed by decent people and shown to be the lowlife he is.

That isn’t hate speech either.

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only White Nationalism will be banned?

Unlike many others, they are not just opinionated advocates, they are categorized as domestic terrorists. Their believes lead to direct act of terrorism. They have shown such willingness to use fatal weapons against innocents, even against children, in perfectly peaceful society - too often to ignore.

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Do the non-Western "Terrorist" Groups use Facebook to reach out to Supporters - other than to taunt those whom they target ?

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Governments themselves are to blame for "buying" into these so called Social media companies, and as such... they themselves should be held accountable for doing to , by self-perpetuating an existing system of bias and unrighteousness.

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@Super

Glad to see we're on the same page about describing white nationalists as well as other hate extremists groups.

Yes, we most definitely agree.

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Calling Trump a racist is not hate speech. Bitherism was a filthy campaign fueled by racism but Trump wasn’t and shouldn’t have been thrown off Twitter for it. 

Hate speech by definition or how one interprets is not racist.

He was just ridiculed by decent people and shown to be the lowlife he is. 

That depends on what your definition is as to who is a good person, we all think differently of people that fit that mold.

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Also well done Facebook. Nazis and white supremecists don’t deserve a platform.

To the person who said this would lead to re-education for Nazis: I hope it does. They tried to educate themselves but they messed it up and now their brains are wrong.

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Good riddance of any king of hate speech. A good start.

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To the person who said this would lead to re-education for Nazis: I hope it does. They tried to educate themselves but they messed it up and now their brains are wrong.

Yes, all hate groups, be they White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, Jew or Muslim should all be blocked

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Facebook is a company. This means 1) laws governing free speech (eg. the First Amendment to the US Constitution) do not apply to Facebook. 2) Their goal is market share and profit, not the protection of liberties, or building infrastructure, etc

There are over 2 million monthly active users on Facebook. From all over the world. That is diverse in every way.

Whatever speech rules the company comes up with is certain to conflict with many of its users notions of what is and what is not acceptable. See above, "diverse in every way."

White nationalists are a minority in the West. The West makes up less than half of Facebook's users. Angering a minority of a minority is a bad business decision when everyone else either thinks that minority is not cool or hates that minority with a passion.

Facebook crunched the numbers and sees shutting down the white supremacists -- as it has shut down other extremist -- is good for business.

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woops

"angering a minority of a minority is NOT a bad business decision..."

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bass: radical racist hate group

Superlib: Glad to see we're on the same page about describing white nationalists.

Bass: Yes, we most definitely agree.

So what do you think we should do about the white nationalist problem? Can the GOP create any change since so many of these radicals identify with them?

-1 ( +1 / -2 )

Another mindless emotional response. Really idiotic. You can tell these adult children have not even read the killer's manifesto. The guy didn't even use Facebook, he literally explained in detail why he is doing whatever he is doing, and these mindless children running the media and government continue with their mindless emotional responses. How does FB even define ''white nationalism'' and ''white separatism''?

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Banning Nazis isn’t idiotic, it’s actually really good and cool. Just as an FYI.

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Twitler should be next

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So what do you think we should do about the white nationalist problem?

Shun them and ridicule them and all hate groups

Can the GOP create any change since so many of these radicals identify with them?

I ask the same question about the hate groups that identify as liberal or far left leaning like Blick Lives Matters or La Raza to make a few....

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

Bass: Shun them and ridicule them

Good answer. But we need to account for people like Steve King, too. He's not the best image for the GOP as a brand.

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Still the Nation of Islam and Black panthers are still up I see - I guess it's only towards white people... isn't it always the way

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Good answer. But we need to account for people like Steve King, too. He's not the best image for the GOP as a brand

And neither is Omar, Thlaib, Northam, Tlaib and deceased Sen. Byrd for the Democrats brand.

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Anything, group or book that insights, teaches or preaches "intolerance" of others should be removed / censored. That includes religion too. Mods, that is not and insult or slur. It is a fact. All mainstream religions preach intolerance. If you remove my post it only reinforces my belief that people are afraid of facts and truths.

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Should be warning to any nationalists

0 ( +0 / -0 )

I ask the same question about the hate groups that identify as liberal or far left leaning like Blick Lives Matters or La Raza to make a few....

Not heard of either but its always interesting, albeit in a horrific way, to see the support for/deflection from white nationalism here.

Reminds me of that meme, recently.

If the shooter is Hispanic: Build the wall!

If the shooter is of Middle Eastern extraction: Ban Muslims!

If the shooter is Black: The BLM are terrorists!

If the shooter is White: We need to ask ourselves, how are we as a society failing these poor, troubled young men? What kind of movies, video games, music are we making etc.

Back in segregation days, one would often hear of Civil Rights people denigrated, called communist and so on. It seems little has changed, sadly.

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Reminds me of that meme, recently.

If the shooter is Hispanic: Build the wall!

With the influx of the aliens entering the country, build the wall, not about color.

If the shooter is of Middle Eastern extraction: Ban Muslims!

So why is it that Indonesia or Jordan are on the list.

If the shooter is Black: The BLM are terrorists!

BLM are radicals, has nothing to do with color.

If the shooter is White: We need to ask ourselves, how are we as a society failing these poor, troubled young men? What kind of movies, video games, music are we making etc.

A terrorist is a terrorist, they come in all races, nationalities and colors.

Back in segregation days, one would often hear of Civil Rights people denigrated, called communist and so on. It seems little has changed, sadly.

As well as Whites, ask Sean Penn’s Father.

-4 ( +0 / -4 )

Bass again ignoring the mountains of evidence

What evidence? That debunked line again? Dear lord.....

Liberals keep trying and keep trying and they get it wrong and have been getting it wrong since 2010....

It's never to late to stop slavishly supporting Trump and keep what little integrity you have left.

This is the reason why I don’t support the Democrats, especially the new socialists ones for that very reason you outlined.

-3 ( +0 / -3 )

The corrupt FBI thT can't be trusted?

Pretty much.

Look hoe much damage Dimwit has done:

It’s interesting how the msm lies and wastes so much of their time and day on Trump but absolutely refuses to ignore the Democrats and all of their glorious scandals, no wonder CNN and msnbc are hemorrhaging ratings. Wow!

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Haven't used Facebook or Twitter for more than ten years. What a waste of live and time.

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The evidence you have been repeatedly shown and have repeatedly ignored or tried to rationalize.

Not trying to ignore anything, just like the Russian witch-hunt hoax, it apparently didn’t happen.

For instance, Dimwit and his father being sued by the Feds for denying rentals to only black people. 

Which at the time, he had every right and was also understandable given the violent environment at the time. Don’t blame him one bit, again, it had nothing to do with color, even though the prosecution tried to make it about race.

Completely irrelevant

As well as the false racist accusations liberals are trying throw again without merit.

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He's the president, which means his words and actions are news. Someone claiming to have been a "journalist" would understand that.

Yes, you are right, so that means, the liberal suck up surrogates should every now and then defy their masters and tell the news, be fair and objective and talk about the other side, the positive side of Trump, if they don’t want to do that, they’ll continue to hemorrhage viewers (which suits me very well)

So, Mueller's report can't be trusted and there was collusion.

Colllusion? What collusion?

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It’s so sad that you have to resurrect an article from 28th March just so you can trash talk Trump.

its amazing that there was actually other news in the world once the noise from all the Trump attacks quieted down.

No collusion. Build the wall.

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