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U.S. watchdog to probe use of force in Portland as mayor tear-gassed in another night of unrest

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The U.S. Justice Department's internal watchdog

The Justice Department is headed by Trump's appointee Barr. Trump/barr are clearing out 'watchdogs' so they can have even fewer checks on their actions. They're pushing to give Trump Xi/Putin level powers. They're trying to remove the remaining bits of the republic. With help from the Federalist Society and their faction of billionaire 'elites'. Say achtung, America.

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using law enforcement resources for political ends.

Of course Trump is having his federal troops attack American citizens for political ends. It's political theater aimed at the US's most fearful base, which happens to be made up primarily of the country's largest demographic, a subset of which includes the nations many white nationalists.

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The funny thing is, America bombed Syria on the basis of "Syrian police using force against citizens"

This is how civil wars start.

Nip it in the bud... now.

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The series of excesses carried out by federal agents in American cities at the behest of Trump in order to establish his bona fides as a "strong leader" in the eyes of the electorate despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary, constitute yet more impeachable offenses from "your favorite president". The "Tweedle Duumvirate" of Trump/Barr must be dissolved asap and their anti-constitutional conspiracies and egregious corruption must not go unpunished if the words "American democracy" are to mean more than just howling at the moon.

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Why is it that politicians like Trump who actively avoided military service are the first to use military force to enhance their own dubious credentials??

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One demonstrator asked Wheeler if he was willing to abolish the police, to which he replied 'No', followed by loud boos from many.

This lot are far-left extremists who won’t be happy until the US is a communist wasteland, so their opinion shouldn’t be taken seriously.

And the Dems have long been in charge of Portland and Oregon in general, so its their fault for letting this mess get out of hand yet they’re blaming Trump, proving yet again that socialists are incapable and unwilling to take responsibility for their screw-ups.

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won’t be happy until the US is a communist wasteland,

I've never heard any American say they want the country to turn into a 'communist wasteland'. I have long heard many Americans worry about a totalitarian takeover, specifically a fascist takeover. Many Americans are watching Trump und bund trying to do just that. What would people in your country do if they thought their ruling class were trying to subvert your country's system and replace it with fascism?

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that courthouse didnt damage itself. Those law enforcement personnel did blind themselves with laser pointers. are those fires naturally started? bottles of frozen water just flying through the air randomly? Fireworks?

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I hope Wheeler will be successful and kick the feds out of his city.

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far-left extremists who won’t be happy until the US is a communist wasteland,

With the wealth gap having grown and grown even under Clinton and Obama, I don’t think the US is in any danger of going communist.

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Trump's rape of Portland, Oregon will leave a mark on the city and the state for generations.

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The funny thing is, America bombed Syria on the basis of "Syrian police using force against citizens"

I couldn't think of a more laughably inaccurate description of the events surrounding the Syrian civil war.

Reads like a Kremlin attempt to rewrite history.

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Trump is deliberately stirring up violence in these states to appeal to wavering supporters in the key battle ground States.

The use of terms like 'hard left'is intended to create fear in a country that fears anything slightly left wing. The real hard left in the US is tiny. Most of those Trump is insulting works be considered capitalists in any other country in the world.

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Portland is on Day 55 of violence, when did the Feds arrive again? last week?

Trump is deliberately stirring up violence in these states to appeal to wavering supporters in the key battle ground States.

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Being tear gassed isn't any fun. It doesn't discriminate between people. If you are there, you get it.

I hope Wheeler will be successful and kick the feds out of his city.

They can try, but it won't work. The law is clear. A President can send police to any part of the US where the local authorities haven't successfully prevented violence and property crime.

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Predictable that inserting untrained, unorganized, unaccountable federal agents into the situation would only make things worse.

Clearly this is all a naked political ploy by Trump, but I don't see how footage of a large city's mayor getting teargassed is going to help his political prospects. Only the already converted will think this is a good idea. Anyone else not already on the Trump Train is likely to appalled, and that includes many suburban voters who Trump thinks will somehow be impressed by this mess.

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the live feed is available every night. Anyone can watch these Antifa people throw frozen water bottles, shoot fireworks, set fires and lob improvised IEDs over the fence. Every night for weeks, well before any Fed was ever onsite.

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They're pushing to give Trump Xi/Putin level powers. They're trying to remove the remaining bits of the republic.

By rooting out the mob destroying that city, hope so.

With help from the Federalist Society and their faction of billionaire 'elites'. Say achtung, America.

Ok, just leave them and let the anarchists turn it into another CHAP until someone eventually down the road gets murdered, I am why not?

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I've never heard any American say they want the country to turn into a 'communist wasteland'.

Show me one video where anarchists want to sit down and have a dialogue with city and State leaders on any of the social grievances they claim to have. They certainly don’t want the capitalist system in place, they want to dismantle it and replace it with what? Who is allowed to make money? How will the poor eat or pay rent? Who will provide jobs? How will the fragile economy stay afloat?

I have long heard many Americans worry about a totalitarian takeover, specifically a fascist takeover.

Watching the anarchists and their fascist tactics push out any dissent that is definitely the sentiment and angst of the growing concerned nation.

Many Americans are watching Trump und bund trying to do just that.

For the Antifa it does seem like a very scary prospect.

What would people in your country do if they thought their ruling class were trying to subvert your country's system and replace it with fascism?

Portland, Seattle, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis and NYC are seeing it now taking place.

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The Fed troops are trained to guard Fed buildings not police protests and should be doing just that.

Trump has now sent troops to other cities.

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Anyone can watch these Antifa people throw frozen water bottles, shoot fireworks, set fires and lob improvised IEDs over the fence. Every night for weeks, well before any Fed was ever onsite.

It doesn't matter, everything will be back to normal after Biden gets into office. He has already won the election by the way because he leads in the polls in Florida so November's election means nothing. Destruction is no big deal because everything can be replaced easily. I have picked up a lot of knowledge from people since joining this site.

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Show me one video where anarchists want to sit down and have a dialogue with city and State leaders on any of the social grievances they claim to have. They certainly don’t want the capitalist system in place, they want to dismantle it and replace it with what? Who is allowed to make money? How will the poor eat or pay rent? Who will provide jobs? How will the fragile economy stay afloat?

Total numbers of anarchists and extreme left wing in the whole country is less than 0.1% of the population. Over reaction to suggest they have any chance to take over the country and dump capitalism.

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"You can’t really comply with any orders that are being issued because, frankly, you’re not paying attention to what’s around you, you’re focusing on your eyes. You’re focusing on trying to breathe."

Yep. And U.S. cops LOVE the fact you cannot comply because then they can beat and kill you for "failing to comply" and do it with the approval of half of Americans who either don't know anything about police weapons and tactics or are as trollish as American cops. And if it ever goes to court the cops will get "qualified immunity" which allows them to get away with practically anything. I am so glad I escaped. My country actually seemed like a nice place when I was a kid.

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Three months ago: The secret federal troops in camo and black will enter our cities - at the behest of the Deep State. We, the far-right pro-Trump supporters vow to defend our homes with our guns and prevent these forces of evil from invading our cities and taking away our Constitutional rights....confiscating our guns and arresting and taking us to secret locations...

Now: The secret federal troops in camo and black enter our cities....and the far-right, pro-Trump supporters say....Welcome brothers! We stand with you in your invasion!

Trump-world hypocrisy on view for all to see...

A pitiful "wag the dog" attempt to divert from the abysmal failure of Trump losing the war against COVID...

But what can you expect from a group that says they're for law and order - but we wish an indicted sex trafficker in minor children "well"....

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Total numbers of anarchists and extreme left wing in the whole country is less than 0.1% of the population.

Is that what the CNN pundits are saying now?

Over reaction to suggest they have any chance to take over the country and dump capitalism.

Two months ago we never thought BLM and Antifa would ever get a single statue removed, let alone paint BLM on streets or get in some States the National anthem band, but here we are.....

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bass4funk

Total numbers of anarchists and extreme left wing in the whole country is less than 0.1% of the population.

Is that what the CNN pundits are saying now?

You already know I don't watch CNN

Over reaction to suggest they have any chance to take over the country and dump capitalism.

Two months ago we never thought BLM and Antifa would ever get a single statue removed, let alone paint BLM on streets or get in some States the National anthem band, but here we are.....

You claimed the anarchists unless stopped are going to take over the whole country and dump capitalism. That is a massive fearmongering overreaction.

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The possibility of Trump losing his elections grows stronger everyday.

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You already know I don't watch CNN

I actually don’t know that, but that is what they are saying and what’s swirling on all the news sites...

You claimed the anarchists unless stopped are going to take over the whole country and dump capitalism.

Yes.

That is a massive fearmongering overreaction.

Looking at all these liberal cities up in flames seeing the murder rates rise is not fear mongering, watching the cities burn down and watch the rioting and looting and destruction of public and private property and watching the killings of children and seeing the cancel culture out of control is not fear mongering or even an overreaction, I would submit to you there’s an under reaction to a lot of it.

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The possibility of Trump losing his elections grows stronger everyday.

Yeah, we heard that 4 years ago on a daily basis as well.

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Yeah, we heard that 4 years ago on a daily basis as well.

yes but now it’s becoming a reality which even Trump understands.

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bass4funkToday  10:09 am JST

You already know I don't watch CNN

I actually don’t know that, but that is what they are saying and what’s swirling on all the news sites...

but you do because every time you direct CNN at my post I always inform you that I don’t watch CNN and in fact more than 20 years. I also don’t watch any American news channel.

In your opinion, what size army of anarchists and extreme left wing would it take to overrun the country?

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but you do because every time you direct CNN at my post I always inform you that I don’t watch CNN and in fact more than 20 years. I also don’t watch any American news channel.

So you just rely on European news outlets to tell the stories of America? Yeah, sounds very objective, not sure if that’s the best idea, but...ok...

In your opinion, what size army of anarchists and extreme left wing would it take to overrun the country?

A Biden Presidency.

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yes but now it’s becoming a reality which even Trump understands.

Yes, they all said the same thing 4 years ago.

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bass4funkToday  10:36 am JST

but you do because every time you direct CNN at my post I always inform you that I don’t watch CNN and in fact more than 20 years. I also don’t watch any American news channel.

So you just rely on European news outlets to tell the stories of America? Yeah, sounds very objective, not sure if that’s the best idea, but...ok...

strange coming from you who so strongly and frequently dismisses the American media, MSM. There are other news media located inside America with more objective reporting. But it’s also a case of what is available from Japan. CNN is, I think but none of the other channels including Fox. You often also quote or link from obscure media/blog sites.

Biden isn’t an anarchist even by a long stretch of you imagination so you failed to answer the question. Like I said, fearmongering.

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Yes, they all said the same thing 4 years ago.

even you said Trump wouldn’t be elected.

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What a charade. Does anybody believe an IG under Barr and Trump can accomplish anything at all? Hope his house-payments are up to date. His days are numbered and everybody knows it.

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The Dems want the Feds out of their cities. They are off on their States Rights campaigns again.

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oh but they want that sweet, sweet, federal aid money to repair everything they allow the "peaceful protesters" to destroy.

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If local law-enforcers are not able to contain or stop the violence, calling 'Federal forces' to standby speaks volume about the dire situation in Seattle, perhaps in Chicago and a few other big cities too.

Why is US retrograding so fast? What happens?

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If it weren't for the innocent people that would be hurt, I would say, "hell yes, pull the federal law enforcement out of these festering cesspit cities". But unfortunately that isn't possible.

It was hilarious to see Mayor Wheeler getting the "Minneapolis treatment" by his constituents though. Remember back when the mayor of Minneaopolis went to prostrate himself in front of protesters? Didn't end well for him.

Again, legit protests don't happen at night. They happen in daylight, when they can be seen and the signs can be read by cameras and the numbers can be accurately reported. Night is the time for rioting, violence, anarchy, and looting.

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Yes exactly.

I find it quite interesting that one of the goals of a protest is TV coverage to get out the message.

For these Antifa type "protests" they actually dont want any coverage at all, because they dont have a message. Just violence in the dark of night.

Its bad optics if they are seen on TV throwing Molotov cocktails, so the obedient media doesnt show it.

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strange coming from you who so strongly and frequently dismisses the American media, MSM.

Yes.

There are other news media located inside America with more objective reporting.

I know them all, all of the liberal ones so which ones?

But it’s also a case of what is available from Japan. CNN is, I think but none of the other channels including Fox. You often also quote or link from obscure media/blog sites.

By far Fox is more far objective meaning they are giving an opposing viewpoint than the other msm that represent a single Liberal driven monolithic point of view.

Biden isn’t an anarchist

No, he just does what the Marxists tell him what to do.

even by a long stretch of you imagination so you failed to answer the question. Like I said, fearmongering.

I did answer it. Looking around at the destruction of the country, the defunding of the police and trying to dismantle the country, attacking killing police and children, that’s reality not fear mongering.

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Watching the cities burn down?

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Well, now we know who the protesters are who are out on the streets in Portland...

The Portland Mayor, who opposes these federal troops, went to the area yesterday and while trying to give a speech, was shouted down, called a Nazi, and otherwise insulted....

Then the mob moved out and the Mayor was tear-gassed by the federal troops...

https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/mayor-of-portland-tear-gassed-by-federal-agents-during-protest/

Hmmmm.... I wonder who that mob was?

Remember when he had the armed, far-right, pro-Trump gangs violently roaming through our city government buildings?

Looks like they've moved to Portland...

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By far Fox is more far objective meaning they are giving an opposing viewpoint than the other msm that represent a single Liberal driven monolithic point of view.

Fox is not broadcasted here in Japan. Only CNN which I don't watch.

I know them all, all of the liberal ones so which ones?

Not sure if you know them all but I won't give you my words so you can turn them into bullets to shoot me. Not that foolish.

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Well, now we know who the protesters are who are out on the streets in Portland...

The Portland Mayor, who opposes these federal troops, went to the area yesterday and while trying to give a speech, was shouted down, called a Nazi, and otherwise insulted....

But he allows fascists to overrun the city?

Then the mob moved out and the Mayor was tear-gassed by the federal troops...

They didn’t move out, they were chased out.

Hmmmm.... I wonder who that mob was?

Conservatives don’t live In Portland, so that narrows it down....

Remember when he had the armed, far-right, pro-Trump gangs violently roaming through our city government buildings?

Looks like they've moved to Portland...

Wrong, No rational conservative would be caught dead in a city where they know they could be sent to the hospital for just airing an opinion that’s politically different from these anarchists.

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But he allows fascists to overrun the city?

Before it was anarchists. Now fascists. Which is it? Both are not the same. City population of about 700,000.

How many anarchists/fascists would it take to overrun the city?

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But Wheeler, who is also the city's police commissioner

Wheeler should not only have been tear gassed, he should have been arrested for impersonating a police commissioner and willful negligence in not asking for help in restoring law and order in his city and removed from office.

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By far Fox is more far objective meaning they are giving an opposing viewpoint than the other msm that represent a single Liberal driven monolithic point of view.

Fox is the most watched "news" channel. It is literally the most MainStream of the Medias. It is literally the definition of a single Conservative driven monolithic point of view. There are plenty of objective media that give an opposing view point to your deep-state right-wing fake news MSM propaganda mouthpiece of the Trump administration.

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Well, now we know who the protesters are who are out on the streets in Portland...

The Portland Mayor, who opposes these federal troops, went to the area yesterday and while trying to give a speech, was shouted down, called a Nazi, and otherwise insulted....

But he allows fascists to overrun the city?

Well, these fascists do have guns and are in camo uniforms - what's he supposed to do, ask for federal help? That just means Trump will send more...

Then the mob moved out and the Mayor was tear-gassed by the federal troops...

They didn’t move out, they were chased out.

OK, the secret police chased out the far-right anarchists - whatever you say...

Hmmmm.... I wonder who that mob was?

Conservatives don’t live In Portland, so that narrows it down....

Maybe, but they're easily bussed in...

Remember when he had the armed, far-right, pro-Trump gangs violently roaming through our city government buildings?

Looks like they've moved to Portland...

Wrong, No rational conservative would be caught dead in a city where they know they could be sent to the hospital for just airing an opinion that’s politically different from these anarchists.

You mean carted off to a secret location by the Feds? Yep, that's definitely a risk....

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