'No more' or we vote you out: Students lead huge U.S. anti-gun rallies

All these young people coming to Washington to the "March For Our Lives" demonstration. Where are the politicians? On a 2 week Easter break, of course! Where is the president? Playing golf, of course! These young people are going to vote you out of office when they are 18. I am a lot older, but will continue to vote against these politicians and this president, as well.

Brave people, brave kids. Bringing the country and the world together in a passionate stand against violence.

These kids are the future and you inspire. I believe in you.

Keeping our children safe is a top priority of the president.

Sadly, early on a Sunday morning, that will not be the biggest lie Trump or his minions will have told this week.

Taking aim at the National Rifle Association gun lobby, teenagers chanted, "Hey, hey, NRA, how many kids have you killed today?" -- article

Answer: None.

What's not being addressed by the teenagers (because,of course, it does fit the gun grabbing leftists' narrative) is how did the government -- from the local level to the FBI -- turn a blind eye to all the signals that the Florida high school shooter was a ticking time bomb?

**does not

Trump and NRA had a joint statement after. Florida shooting. Spreading animation video watching cause people shooting. They were going to prohibit animation. As variety of software developers organizations protested.

good to see some trying to make a change unlike gutless politicians who live their lives in the pockets of interest groups like the odious NRA....

the voters are coming," 

It’s time for baby boomers and even gen x-ers to stand aside and realize their days of allowing groups like the NRA to be so powerful are coming to an end. 

Young people are inheriting a violent world made even more violent in part because of the ease of access for all people, be they those on terrorist watch-lists, gangbangers (including ‘militia’ members), sane (whatever that means), mentally unstable (whatever that means), just plain Jim and Judy from down the block, among others, to buy and accumulate weapons that only the military and police forces should have.

Hats off to all young people getting involved in political and social issues of any sort. Politicians of all parties - take note. Let’s do a time warp dance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzHBr0ndKus

@texag from the local level to the FBI -- turn a blind eye to all the signals 

Nice deflection. Perhaps if the law enforcement of rightist’s dreams could have chips implanted in everyone’s brains and constantly monitored us they’d be able to anticipate some cases of folks going insane and using one of their legally purchased weapons to slaughter innocents.

How about the ban on bump stocks? Are Texan goat ropers upset they’ll have to resort to using a lasso to keep their goat herds in line instead of using their bump stocks? Banning bump stocks may be tough on one segment of the population, but because Trump might be in favor it, y'all must be willing to go along. Am I right?

Gun violence should not happen anywhere, not just schools. Instead of doing this in Downtown L.A., they should protest in Compton, Watts Boyle Heights, etc.

Good on these kids for getting this started, and good on the people for participating. In the upcoming elections, the people will force politicians to clearly state whether or not they are for or against increased gun legislation, and that will form the basis of a lot of votes. In two years, a significant number of these kids will be able to vote, and you can bet this will be a major priority of theirs.

This may very well be the start of real change on the issue. The kids are fed up, and the old people are dying off. Time for a change of the guard.

Keeping our children safe is a top priority of the president.

I thought it was keeping transgenders from dying for their country.

What's not being addressed by the teenagers (because,of course, it does fit the gun grabbing leftists' narrative) is how did the government -- from the local level to the FBI -- turn a blind eye to all the signals that the Florida high school shooter was a ticking time bomb?

This is actually something that also needs to be addressed. Anytime you have an incident like this, you need to look at the following:

1) Who did it?

This is what you have addressed before - who were they, were there warning signs ahead of time? Could we have done more for/about this person ahead of the fact?

2) What did they do it with?

This is what the kids are addressing. What were the tools? Could we have done something to prevent this person from using those tools, or using them in this manner?

3) Why did they do it?

What were the environmental factors? Could we put together some programs that would make it less likely to happen? Could we fix some of the environmental issues? Are we giving people psychoactive drugs that create murderous intent as a side effect? Was there bullying, that we could have stopped ahead of time?

4) Where did they do it?

Is there a way to reasonably increase security in the place where it happened? Was there something about the place that made it particularly appealing to a killer, that we could fix?

The right wants to focus on items 1, 3 and 4, while pretending that item 2 doesn't also matter. That's ridiculous. If you want to fix a problem, you need to deal with all of the above points. Number 2 is just as valid, and is in fact probably the easiest one to actually do something about.

Correction. This:

The right wants to focus on items 1, 3 and 4, while pretending that item 2 doesn't also matter. That's ridiculous. If you want to fix a problem, you need to deal with all of the above points. Number 2 is just as valid, and is in fact probably the easiest one to actually do something about.

Correction. This:

The right wants to focus on items 1, 3 and 4, while pretending that item 2 doesn't also matter. That's ridiculous. If you want to fix a problem, you need to deal with all of the above points. Number 2 is just as valid, and is in fact probably the easiest one to actually do something about.

Should have been this:

The gun lovers wants to focus on items 1, 3 and 4, while pretending that item 2 doesn't also matter. That's ridiculous. If you want to fix a problem, you need to deal with all of the above points. Number 2 is just as valid, and is in fact probably the easiest one to actually do something about.

I can't blame this on the right. Many on the left also love their guns.

"I think teachers should have guns," he said, echoing a proposal made by Trump after the Parkland killings.

If America is such a "great" country, why do teachers in classrooms need to be armed with weapons when they teach?

No one is going to be able to explain that idiocy to me.

If America is such a "great" country, why do teachers in classrooms need to be armed with weapons when they teach?

Right. I thought they wanted to Make America Great.

Some teacher had a sign that said "I'd take a bullet for my students, but please don't make me."

NRA is. trouble.

How about the ban on bump stocks?

Yeah, how 'bout that? It's another case of Trump at best displaying ignorance and at worst (= normal for him) lying. Let's look at the timeline.

In 2010, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives concluded that it could not regulate bump stocks since the devices could not be classified as machine guns since they do not permanently alter the trigger mechanism of a firearm. 

Obama concluded that current law didn’t allow for its regulation by executive order, requiring instead an act of Congress.

Since then, and particularly following the Las Vegas massacre, several bills to ban bump stocks have been introduced in congress, but GOP leadership in both the Senate and House have refused to bring them up for a vote.

Trump bans them by executive order accompanied by a self-congratulatory tweet that lies about Obama "legalizing" them:

Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.

As it's an executive order, the NRA and pro-gun groups will be likely challenge it in court, and a judge may issue an injunction barring enforcement of the rule until the case is complete. 

That, my friends, is the GOP working for you. Congress could simply pass a law, but they're too frightened to go on record.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/06/national-rifle-association/nra-claim-obama-approved-bump-stocks/

Good to see more people trying to impact politics in the USA in a positive way, even if I disagree on this specific issue.

My generation went to Woodstock to take off our clothes and do drugs. Then we got old and put a lunatic into to White House. This generation showed up today in Washington by the tens of thousands to demand our dysfunctional government carry out their most basic function to protect the "right to life" I am so proud of these awesome young Americans.

Good to see more people trying to impact politics in the USA in a positive way, even if I disagree on this specific issue.

That's what I like about you Fu - I often don't agree with your opinion, but you're not an extremist, and usually have a balanced opinion.

The GOP doesn't see the writing on the wall. They're sitting around glibly passing around image memes making fun of these kids, not seeing the fundamental shift taking place here. This is going to be bigger than the 60s counterculture - all the rejection of the elders and their selfish pettiness but this time with eloquence and professionalism.

The GOP brand is living on borrowed time. It is impossible to overstate just how much the younger generation loathes the Republican brand. Within 10 years, youth voting demographics will make the Republican party irrelevant.

And the sad thing is that they've chosen to go this route. A tax cut for the rich today was more important to them than securing a credible voter base for the future.

Nothing can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change,”

I agree with this. But cynic that I am I have to think Trump and his fellow DC swamp-mates, especially those involved in big war related government, industry and putative ‘think’ tanks, might sense their days of being able to get young people to fight wars that benefit them and the .01% are drawing to an end.

What’s worrying about that is Trump’s now a wounded leader, the most dangerous kind, someone who’s shown throughout his life will do anything to take attention away from criminal and other charges held against him. 

Trump’s now got hawks like Bolton and Pompeo willing to do the bidding for him. They could well think it’s wars now or never. And with the US empire fading, this could be their last chance to be the lead empire. Wag the dog time?

If young Americans shun military service knowing they could be killed (or wounded and left to fend for themselves because their government doesn’t want to take care of them) in a war that only benefits the richest, the military will have to rely even more on Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems and buy even more high-paid mercenaries. An American Foreign Legion ahead?

Who will be next US president candidate?

@zichi: Yes, Tokyo rally by people who don't know how P.m. is elected in Japan.

Well done! Money cannot overcome sheer numbers (of voters), so VOTE THE DO-NOTHINGS AND ASSAULT WEAPONS DEFENDERS OUT! Starting this November!

Yup, let’s ignore the incredible amount of failures by the local sheriffs office and FBI who ignored a ticking time bomb who actually reached out for help.

Lets all stop and listen to an uninformed bunch of children being used by liberal donars

Just like Kandenren in japan, the NRA has too much lobby power, so nothing much will change.

How about the ban on bump stocks?

And that was in response to mass shooting, how many times ago now?

let’s ignore the incredible amount of failures by the local sheriffs office and FBI who ignored a ticking time bomb who actually reached out for help. 

No one is ignoring that.

Lets all stop and listen to an uninformed bunch of children being used by liberal donars

Yeah cause it’s not like kids would have an opinion on guns from being afraid of getting shot at school.

@goodlucktoyou: What is KanDenRen?

It's about time. Time to stop the madness.

Lets all stop and listen to an uninformed bunch of children being used by liberal donars

“The best argument against democracy is a five- minute conversation with the average voter.”

Winston Churchill

One of your heroes made it clear that age doesn’t necessarily make voters informed. Have you ever seen some of the signs carried by ‘informed’ adults with ignorant messages and spelling mistakes?

Calling these kids puppets of ‘donars’ seems very dismissive.

The idea that it's only the right who want to keep guns is another falsehood, btw.

https://www.redneckrevolt.org/

OOon the interviews, teachers expressed why they don't want to carry guns in school.

Churchill had a habit of sending in troops to quell dissenters, so I'd be wary of quoting him.

The idea that these kids are being used as tools is one that they put forward, because the alternative is that these kids came to their opinions on their own, meaning that it’s a natural line of thought. That would mean that arming citizens is an unnatural line of thought. So these guys try to pretend the kids are tools in order to not have to accept that their line of thinking is unnatural.

The GOP brand is living on borrowed time. It is impossible to overstate just how much the younger generation loathes the Republican brand. 

If Democrats think that's going to help them, they are blind as well. The young despise both parties, rightfully so. The question is what they will replace it with. I am not optimistic, as free speech is also under threat, and there is no powerful free speech lobby in Washington to defend speech the way gun ownership is defended.

I’m very interested in the idea of who is ‘informed’. Can anyone here claim to be literate in all issues? Even an incredibly intelligent, thoughtful, well read person like Donald Trump has advisors.

For me, young people marching to stop young people getting massacred at school is a pretty good reason to march. You don’t need a PhD on the US constitution to do this.

Did Trump or Pence make any comments? You have to scroll down pretty far on the page to even find coverage on Fox News. It’s like nothing happened today in their world.

Glad to see the usual idiots still refusing to recognize that firearms are a huge problem. These same ignorant individuals are also trying to minimize these young people's voices.

 from the local level to the FBI -- turn a blind eye to all the signals that the Florida high school shooter was a ticking time bomb?

This isn't a question because it's not what happened. One should really check a dictionary before posting.

turn a blind eye

phrase of blind

1. 

pretend not to notice."please, don't turn a blind eye to what is happening"

There were mistakes by law enforcement, but law enforcement did not "pretend not to notice."

This holds true for me too:

That's what I like about you Fu - I often don't agree with your opinion, but you're not an extremist, and usually have a balanced opinion.

Yup, let’s ignore the incredible amount of failures by the local sheriffs office and FBI who ignored a ticking time bomb who actually reached out for help. 

Literally nobody is suggesting this.

Lets all stop and listen to an uninformed bunch of children being used by liberal donars

They sounded far better informed than the posters on here belittling them.

These young people are amazing. Politicians who ignore these future voters are idiots.

500000 young people in Washington have given me hope. Thank you.

Wearing a red "Make America Great Again" sweatshirt, 16-year-old Connor Humphrey of San Luis Obispo, California, said: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

And people with "guns" kill a helluva lot of other people. Less access to firearms = fewer firearm deaths. Fewer firearms = less access to firearms.

Trump friend and New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft sent his Patriots team plane (a Boeing wide-body 767) to the students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High so a hundred of them and their family members could attend the March For Our Lives rally in Washington D.C.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2766199-robert-kraft-sent-patriots-plane-to-fly-stoneman-douglas-students-to-dc-march

Picture of the protest from space:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/977635968822988800?s=21

Awesome pic, Strangerland.

Bet yer man wishes he has those numbers at his inauguration...

Cities around the world where people gathered in solidarity with the DC march:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/march-for-our-lives-supporters-rally-for-gun-laws-from-dc-to-tokyo-2018-03-24

Even a march in Dublin

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/protest-outside-us-embassy-in-dublin-over-gun-control-1.3439484

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/american-mom-why-i-am-marching-for-american-gun-control-in-dublin-3917569-Mar2018/

True solidarity.

nothing but a giant exercise in seeking social media validation.

Their little march will be forgotten by the next equivalent of the Tide pod challenge.

Heh, the good ol' "Can't argue with them, so try to discredit them" tactic.

nothing but a giant exercise in seeking social media validation.

They have more to say than you or I will ever do here on a variant of social media.

I fully admit that. Can you?

The event was a mass demonstration by youths that found a time and place to express their thoughts and feeling regarding "guns" and the "irresponsible" and "harmful" USE of the gun in an assumed safe location called a school with children assumed to be harmless and helpless, based upon the values held by many. It has much to do with WHO "used" the guns and how, when, where and why it was used and the result there of. In this case it was death and injury to what we identify as "innocent" people.

It has only an indirect relationship to NRA or the Second Amendment. It is also an indirect relationship to gun ownership, gun availability, governmental gun control (legally and physically), and even to arming the police, pilots, security guards and teachers. It is the same for the type of guns, from handheld to automatic and assault type weapons. The fact is, the guns of all types are here and available to anyone who wish to obtain it legally or illegally. In fact, there are enough detailed designs available in any library for anyone to actually "make" a gun. Even without the NRA, there are more guns than there are people in most parts of the USA.

Technology today with micro and nano robotics as well as with advanced robot and drone technology, the human factor of "who" may become meaningless.

However, as well intended and organized the youth movement appears to be, it has to go beyond trying to have others take responsibility . They must organize instead, to change themselves and others so that guns will not be used for indiscriminate killing of innocent people. It is the "who", the person, that is the problem. For obviously, everyone seem to concur that "killing" with guns for "protection" of self personally or by the police in defense of the innocent or by soldiers during war is "allowed". Other than for animal activists, hunting and killing with guns for food and survival is also "allowed".

Chanting "never again," hundreds of thousands of young Americans and their supporters answered a call to action from survivors of last month's Florida high school massacre and rallied across the United States on Saturday to demand tighter gun laws.

There will never be a “never again” because guns don’t go off by themselves- it takes a deranged individual to do that. It is impossible to outlaw the existence of people with mental problems. Progressives tried that in the early 1900’s with their eugenics programs. The Nazi’s liked that idea so much they adopted for themselves.

That doesn’t mean that some positive things cannot be done to improve school safety and the safety of everyone in general. But like immigration, the kids handlers don’t want solutions they want a divisive issue. These idealist kumbaya leftist indoctrinated children organized and bankrolled by wealthy Hollywood elites are going to have a hell of a good time over the next few years. But they will not change anything other than getting a few more Dems elected this Fall. And when these Dems get to Congress next year they will eschew incremental solutions and pursue extreme goals that the Congress and the people will not support. Like everything else the issue will be stalemated due to polarization and lack of trust between the two sides.

What is the root cause? Fix that. It isn't firearms. The Austin bomber showed that someone determined to kill other people will find a way.

Undoubtedly, but making guns so readily available and obtainable doesn't help matters.

There are elected politicians who are financed by NRA.

Students are being organized by communists and other socialist groups supported by George Soros and his faction to gain power and leave the general US population helpless to defend themselves. Actually there are not very many incidents compared to the overall population and the incidents in other countries. Now they want to stop police from trying to defend them. The US Supreme Court ruled many years ago that the police have no inherit requirement to protect individuals, just to keep the peace at large. The students are disrupting large segments of the cities and causing more problems as well as interfering with police to no effect.

Happy to see so many people rise up over their regressive overlords and all the mental conspiracy giants that hold them back (see above)

Once they get voting it should end Republican rule, and that's a great day indeed

Fix the root cause.

How easy to day, yet impossible to do. Gun owners themselves are part of the answer, but they have been brainwashed into thinking that everyone just wants to take their toys away.

That is not the case.

The students are disrupting large segments of the cities and causing more problems as well as interfering with police to no effect.

Down with free speech!

Students are being organized by communists and other socialist groups supported by George Soros and his faction to gain power and leave the general US population helpless to defend themselves.

. . .

Ignorance is rife.

There will never be a “never again” because guns don’t go off by themselves- 

There sure won't be a never again if the US remains awash in firearms.

Great that kids get enthusiastic and passionate about something outside a computer or cell phone, however they still lack the full impact or future ramifications concerning gun control on a Gov whose power continues to grow on the people. They don't quite understand that one can't run government or make decisions on passion alone but must understand the high consequences. The gun is not the problem, the problems lays with the teaching of morals and standards as a society that parents do not teach for various reasons, perhaps they too didn't have that child bearing information passed to them as so forth. Violence is a behavior that will always exist and removing of the guns leaves the public at the discourse of full government control. Refer to China under XI as their government gets bolder and bolder leaving the people the people to fight in the future for any rights with pitchforks and hoes.

What was Trump doing whilst these people were marching?

As March For Our Lives demonstrators rallied in the nation’s capital, begging for lawmakers to take action against gun violence, Trump hung out at his posh golf resort in West Palm Beach, Florida.

Oh, he was at one of his golf courses again. How much do we pay for this?

He went from too busy to leave the WH to where the hell is the WH pretty quickly.

Students are being organized by communists and other socialist groups supported by George Soros and his faction to gain power and leave the general US population helpless to defend themselves

Interesting point of view and one than no doubt will cause polarising opinions.

My opinion when the march was originally announced was that these brave kids would be villified. And to some extent, they are. But these castigations are so transparent, so misinformed , one should not take them seriously.

What is to be taken seriously is the utter disdain the gun lobbyists have for the future of the country. The future being the young people.

The safety and well being of these kids is beyond narrow Rep/Dem politics.

Violence is a behavior that will always exist and removing of the guns leaves the public at the discourse of full government control. Refer to China under XI

Fear of the US government “taking over” is a flimsy excuse for accepting a lot of murdered children.

And if you want a comparison, why not use a liberal democracy? Have tyrannical governments taken over in Europe where guns are banned?

...and what was Trump doing that day, mmm?

Good job, kids!!!

Get rid of the useless old farts politicians, deport them to Kim Jong-un, they deserve a lifetime place in his labor camps!!!

Good on these kids, and the people that support them. They are hitting hard, and where it hurts, and saying that they will target politicians with votes (not guns, like the politicians not minding target the kids) against them in specific elections has some, like Rubio, panicking. Rubio got OWNED by the kids, and with his recent Twitter comments on top of that he is in real danger of being ousted in his next election. Get ready for him to start saying he's been misrepresented, and he didn't say this or mean that, but still not saying he won't take any more money from the NRA, or pay it back, etc. Santorum, too, is in hot water over his "CPR" comments, since he's another NRA shill that's in their pockets.

The NRA themselves have shown to be the absolute scum of the earth, saying teachers should now be armed with the very assault rifles that kid all the kids in the high school and in other mass murders, and targeting the kids' protests, etc.

Guns kill — period! Guns like knifes, scissors, shovels, saws and etc. are all “tools” which reqiuire “human” intervention to operate. For any Gun Control to work in any country, gun laws worldwide would need to be on the same sheet-of-music! The United States Constitution in itself is unique in that it’s 2nd Ammendent protects the rights of “law abiding citizens” to Own and Bare arms. This ammendent was so important as to recognize the right of the citizens to be able to protect themselves against possible tyrentry/ dictatorship or invasion from another county/nation. It was considered so important as to follow the 1 st amendment which guarantees the right of all citizens to “free Speach”. These young adults like the rest of the American voters will have the same candidates on their voteing cards as the rest of us to either choose from or not. Exercising their 1st amendment rights is not the same as voting their vocal chords, therefore we can only wait and see if their marches have any impact on gun control Nationwide, I for one will not hold my breath !!!

I'm glad to see a great protest like this. The NRA and idiots against EFFECTIVE gun control laws (notice it's mostly the ones' that get money from manufacturing/selling firearms) need to be put to pasture. While I'm not totally anti-firearms, I'm not a gun fanatic that believes everyone and everybody needs and should have a firearm by their sides at all times. And AR's are a big expletive no no in civilian life.

There are such things as toy guns, but real guns are NOT TOYS!

And don't drag gen-X into this mess as a generation gap thing. It's not. It's gun fanatics from baby boomers to the current generation that are the problem. And the NRA has been lighting the fire for fanaticism for a long time.

November can't come soon enough.

Students are being organized by communists and other socialist groups supported by George Soros and his faction to gain power and leave the general US population helpless to defend themselves. Actually there are not very many incidents compared to the overall population and the incidents in other countries. Now they want to stop police from trying to defend them. The US Supreme Court ruled many years ago that the police have no inherit requirement to protect individuals, just to keep the peace at large. The students are disrupting large segments of the cities and causing more problems as well as interfering with police to no effect.

Muppet.

There was also a march in Dunblane, Scotland where a deranged madman killed 17 kids with a gun... that incident changed everything in the UK.

Great to see the kids out there but they are being used for the gun banner group. The facts just do not back up their claims. They constantly leave out the failure of local, state and federal authorities who failed. The gun is not the problem, it is the evil people who make a choice to kill. The weapon does not matter has the world had seen time and again through out history. People who want to kill will kill period. No back ground will stop this, adding more laws to the already 20k will not stop it. Laws are broken all the time and people do not stop. Quit blame objects and start blaming the person doing the act. More people die from blunt objects then firearms yet we do not have a back ground check on hammers and the same is said about vehicles more people die from them the firearms, no back ground check.

Brave people, brave kids. Bringing the country and the world together in a passionate stand against violence.

There is nothing “brave” about being part of a mob.

It's gun fanatics ...

This is the statement of a fanatic.

Sorry to have to tell you, buddy, but gun owners I have known are usually peaceable, level-headed people no matter how much other people try to make them out as the opposite.

There are elected politicians who are financed by NRA.

I hope you don’t mean the $5,000 the NRA donated to Sen. Marco Rubio. Is that what you mean by “financing”?

Undoubtedly, but making guns so readily available and obtainable doesn't help matters.

Not as “readily available and obtainable” as you think as others have commented at length. A common misconception that is repeated until it becomes a “fact”.

Heh, the good ol' "Can't argue with them, so try to discredit them" tactic.

Indeed. The same tactic used here against gun ownership.

No steps have been taken to reduce the threat of school massacres since Parkland. Therefore, parents should remove their children from middle and high schools. The risk of being MASSACRED by someone with a military assault weapon is just too great. Protect your child!