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Paul_Barbara
Russia is right to build new weapons; it is not them that wants war, but the US and it's cronies.
'... The United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad...':
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321
'America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776':
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41086.htm
So just who are the warmongers? And of course the majority of them have been illegal wars based on lies and 'False Flag' scenarios. The truth of the matter stares you in the face, but still far too many still say and believe:
'America Right or Wrong' (and in the vast majority of cases, America IS in the wrong.
Christina Tsuchida
Concerning the risk to the USA of nuke bombs sent from the southern direction as opposed to over the North Pole (having to pass through the antenna rows devised to prevent attack during the first cold war), IS IT LIKELY that the USA has been all along sending up spacecraft from Cape Canaveral without such a shield in place in the south as well?
Jtsnose
Japan should make better relations with the U. S. and North Korea-its Yayoi neighbor. Of course keep an eye on Russia.
Brian Wheway
If all of the people/leaders launched there missile's there is enough fire power to turn the world into a dust bowl multiple times over, why do we still have to build bigger and more missiles? haven't we got enough? one day common sense will prevail rather than ego's, some people are just blinking crackers
starpunk
Yes, Ronald Reagan himself said that in early 1984, and he said he wanted to talk with the USSR and start dialog on resolving the Cold War peacefully. He and Mikhael Gorbachev held summits. The Cold War ended in late 1989. Does anybody remember? So why are these cretins blubbering all this crap again? Haven't we as people learned ANYTHING in the past 29 years since?
elephant200
RUSSIA has everyrights to defend every single centimeters of Russian land! When you see the pro fascist regieme rising in Kiev and the Baltics you know what Putin is doing is justified. NATO has no good intentions they were just doing a slow motion of "Barbarossa"! Well done Mr.Putin your struggles were applauded by your people!
kushal kumar
News reports in early March , 2018 say that Putin has claimed having developed an array of invincible nuclear missiles . Obviously these claims have the potential to push up Russia to the spotlight in the global scene while enhancing chances of WW3 in days to come in 2018 , may be in July-August. This Vedic astrology writer has already last year on 11 October , 2017 , sought to alert global community for more care and appropriate strategy against developing or happening of WW3 or like catastrophe in 2018 , more so in July-August, through article - “Astrological probable alerts for the United States in 2018” - published in monthly Webzine of Wisdom Magazine from US at wisdom-magazine.com/Article.aspx/4647/ on 1 December , 2017.
Tommy Jones
Asinine.
lostrune2
What if the White House did this with a picture of missiles raining down on Russia?
SuperLib
Why shouldn't Obama allow the Russians to have nukes? It helps our relationship with them.
I don't understand why conservatives want to intentionally harm our relationship with Putin. This uranium one and nuke talk is something that is not helpful.
Serrano
Why did Obama allow the Russians to build all these new nukes? They didn't build 'em all within the past 1 year...
SuperLib
And what's wrong with selling uranium to the Russians? Dont we want a good relationship with them?
Toasted Heretic
Can you elaborate or is that classified info?
'cos if it's the latter, aren't you compromising national security?
bass4funk
It was all done on American soil, that’s all I care about.
Ok, that’s what you say, that’s not what the House intelligence and FBI records say.
Toasted Heretic
Wouldn't be surprised if some of them are grasses. But only when it suits, mind.
Brilliant diversionary tactics today, though. The subject being Russian aggression. Have to hand it to the Trumpets - they know how to obfuscate.
SuperLib
Have any Trump fans here called the FBI to let them know their findings? I'm concerned that the gov might not have all of the information Trump fans do.
Blacklabel
You only sell valuable things when you have an abundance not when you have a deficit.
Blacklabel
Which is exactly my point. If we only have 2% of the world total why would we allow the limited amount we have to be sold?
FizzBit
Aside from all the childish anti Putin trolling and rhetoric, this is what really matters to the US "war room" people. It's not the "doomsday bomb".
Nord Stream will bring more cooperation between Russia and Germany and the EU. What's wrong with that? Because it will further cement the utter failure of the the US's coup in Ukraine and the continued fialure of that country. They will be losing a lot of pipeline transfer fees as well. I feel bad for the average Ukrianian but they are being led emotional brats, not practical thinkers.
Blacklabel
Keep clinging to your technicality. The issue isn’t who sold it to who, but who has at least some of it. And that answer is more than likely “Russia”.
are the nuclear Regulatory Commission memos not a good enough source vs what you heard from a fact checking website?
bass4funk
What?
I’m sorry, I was concerned with Hillary and her selling 20% of it to the Russians and last that I checked, she is an American that oversaw the transaction on US soil.
When Democrats start selling Uranium from the Apple Store to the Russians, then by golly, I want them investigated immediately.
Blacklabel
So basically you can’t prove Russia DOESNT have some of that uranium. We simply don’t know. But the evidence points to them having it if they wanted it.
Which is a much different story than Dems are trying to tell.
Blacklabel
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/358339-uranium-one-deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show
A real news site as opposed to a “fact checking” place.
Toasted Heretic
Just like the DPRK, then.
Why isn't the US threatening Russia (not that I wish for that)?
Oh yes, Russia would trounce them.
Sad.
bass4funk
You always talk about other countries as if that means anything. I don’t care what the Russians or anyone else does in other countries. I ONLY care about what happens in the US.
Yes, you guys do and yes, I did as well.
I see, so according to you, I’m not allowed to give elaborate on my experiences or where I reside, but when liberals do it, it’s somehow relevant. Anyway, whatever...Lol
SuperLib
Trump and his fans are just too afraid to upset Russia. The fans don't quite get it, like you can tell their heart really isn't into praising Putin, but that's what Trump wants so they shrug and just accept their lives as Putin defenders.
Uuuuuh Obama was bad and there's this uranium and....
Tommy Jones
Liberal word gymnastic gem? It wasn't liberal members of Trump's team that were saying that a few months ago when they were "correcting" their testimony to congress and their statements the the FBI.
Tommy Jones
Yes, let's play the accuracy game.
Nothing you said changes the fact that US uranium was not sold to Russia. Keep digging, champ.
Shikisai
Pff guys, you still believe in fairy tales like that of Reagan's Star Wars program pushed for countering Russian forces, which were not even on the par, not to mention exceeding the US army forces. The whole thing was only profitable for the military industry who still have a huge lobby .
Who has the biggest global military budget? Compare those two, and its clear who's better armed.
Tommy Jones
This:
is a completely irrelevant response to this:
. . .
We aren't constantly asserting that we can, but you are constantly asserting you can.
Olegek
Very simple - you can't turn back time. It's impossible. It's like reincarnate British or Holy Roman Empire.
In year 2007 NATO promised some program to Georgia&Ukraine and Putin promised that none of these two states will join NATO. So, he keeps his promise.
Yes, before coup d'etat in Ukraine in 2014 it's economy was two times bigger than now (this decrease we have as a result of war and stopping trade with main trade partner - Russia). The situation in economy of Baltic states (EU/NATO members) is critical - they have lost everithing as a result of bad relationships with Russia...
And nobody in EU/US pay any attention to this situation.
Yugoslavia or Libya also have no fear before air operation starts - than it was too late to do something
Russia just want to have 100% reliabile strategic forces. it's not matter of treat or agression.
Last 15 years Russian scientists have one main task - create devices that can overrun any antimissle system.
So they fulfil their job.
Blacklabel
Yep that’s what everyone said, they “cant” yet documents provided by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission show they DID.
So how can you reconcile “can’t with did?” Sounds kind of misleading to say some thing can’t happen yet we find it did.
1glenn
The major powers have had ICBMs, nuclear armed intercontinental bombers, and nuclear armed submarines, for over 50 years. Sounds to me like Putin is trying to change the subject, in order to take some of the heat off his favorite lap dog.
Daniel Naumoff
Matt Hartwell, in the previous 20 years it was not once discussed on a national, serious level that is broadcast to public to think for themselves, and is almost never brought up by normal people (meaning outside the political dimension). Everyone knows Russia is at least a decade behind EU in cultural development, lacking qualities the civilized nation boasts this age and being affected by afflictions that do not anyhow belong in a modern, developed country. It also has its own nation to suffer poverty and low quality life while boosting army and bragging about it on every occasion. There is no decent cheese an average person could afford regularly, they sell litter mass under the name "Russian cheese", and it is cheap. Eating it is a punishment, however.
The only way EU might accept Russia into EU (which would still have to divide the post-Ural federation, which is even less developed than central Russia), would be out of pity and not in the timeline where the oligarch's puppet is "representing Russian people".
bass4funk
Im from LA. Ohhhh, yes, I do.
And you guys can’t prove the opposite.
Blacklabel
IG report should be coming out soon. McCabe already came up with this new liberal word gymnastics gem:
“McCabe disputes that he intentionally misled investigators.”
So maybe same thing here, the uranium was not “intentionally” sent to Russia it just ended up there.
Blacklabel
Actually there is proof that the DNC server files were copied locally due to the speed at which they were copied being impossible remotely.
But as it doesn’t fit the narrative Mueller can find some more random Russians to indict for that too if he likes.
Blacklabel
Oh ok let’s play technicalities. Let me rephrase: A company controlled by Russians was able to send uranium out of the USA to “Europe and Asia”.
Does Russia have its own continent now? Nope! Interestingly enough it is in BOTH Europe AND Asia.
If they wanted any of it, they obviously could get it from the company which they control. Hell of a lot more proof of this than any Russian collusion.
Tommy Jones
You clearly don't understand the meaning of weak.
There is literally no way you can know that there was no collision or that there is no proof Russians hacked dem email.
Tommy Jones
Sorry, but this doesn't mean the uranium was sold to Russia.
Blacklabel
sorry, the actual uranium left the USA.
Tommy Jones
Accidentally.
By refusing to sanction them?
Same way you know the things you assert.
Nobody because the uranium was t sold, just the rights to extract the uranium, but don't let facts get in the way of your hyper-partisanship.
bass4funk
But he killed some Russians in Syria, he hit them, he’s turned up the heat on them, so if they threaten the US, how does that make him their puppet? How would you know this? What insight do you have that we mere mortals don’t?
Who was it that sold Putin our Uranium again?
Scrote
Crooked Putin thinks of other countries as "aggressors", whereas he is the one who has invaded Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.
mmwkdw
So who's going to get to Mars first ?
starpunk
Because our so-called 'President' is a puppet, boot-licker and slave to Putin. He's a quisling on Putin's leash.
starpunk
A schoolyard bulky bragging about his ding-dong again.
Madverts
That photo sums up Tiny Putin and the Russian short man's complex perfectly.
We've known for 70 odd years there's no winner in a nuclear war.
Matt Hartwell
To be honest. I really do not know enough about that part of the world to agree or not with you on that one.
And I can kind of respect that.
Its the degree of influence that worries the West because obviously Russia and the West are in poor terms right now
The E.U needs to focus far harder on the Eastern European states they already have in lifting living standards. I agree with you on that for sure. I think there are signs that is starting to dawn on them.
I guess this is the real crux of the matter. Russia fears invasion yes? But can you honestly imagine the Europeans doing such a thing? They have no capability. Can you imagine them agreeing to America doing such a thing? Its their turf, not the United States when its all said and done.
They should focus on economy and defense until Russia recognizes that...
Europe and Russia are predominately white, European people that fought Nazi's together (obviously not Germany or Italy ;) that share a strong Christian tradition and an overall European history.
There is no reason you need to be at each others throats and you could accomplish on awful lot more together than apart. I hope the day that dawns on everyone in Europe arrives sooner rather than later.
I have a question for you actually.
Do you think Russia or do Russians themselves ever discuss joining the European Union?
Matt Hartwell
You know I'm Australian right? :)
And yes Australia does spend its 2%. Most of it on American components although a lot of ship related stuff seems to come from European companies. We do our fair share in spending. Absolutely agree.
When it comes to Australia I guess I would say we need to focus more on R%D. Yeah we are small population, but we can contribute more on R&D. The governments renewed focus on exports its a solid step. Second to that I actually think we need to take more measures at home to improve our own defenses against conventional attack. Along with more cooperation with the Quad. Thats focused more on China than Russia though.
Yes for spending, we lift our weight.
Trade and to protect the freedom of its allies. It reality, its the allies that need the U.S more I would suggest, especially an E.U that has never shown any real interest in protecting and paying for their freedom.
Olegek
by the way - what US needs in Eurasia?
Olegek
No it's not possible
Yes, it's truth
EU can be much more prosperous (especially in Greece or Bulgaria) but after "revolution" in Ukraine income level falling dramatically (2-3 times) in this country
That why these new weapons - to stop expansion of our western "friends"
May be they should look for "new objectives"? For example - to improve life standards in new EU members?
sdf_crew_member
Yes, more sanctions. We need more sanctions against Russia. Oops, already done.
Well, then just let's bomb them into the Stone Age like we've done with Libya etc. Heh, too dangerous they can fight back.
Hurrah, there is a best solution - we'll do petty dirty tricks as we've always done before.
bass4funk
Actually you do. But at the same time, this is nothing more than Russia just wanting to get attention, nothing more.
Aly Rustom
Absolutely.
bosphorus
Putin is just like Kim Jong Un, but much more dangerous, and he has far-reaching ambitions. The western democracies should stop this sicko before it's too late.
John-San
Matt. I am very insulted that you do not bother to do your research. Australia is the only Allie that spends 2% plus of it GDP on defence. America under Obama ask Australia can we do more than 1.2 % of it GPD. WE step up to the plate and are now spending 2% which USA ask for. We have live up to our pact of the deal since 1945. We have done what you have ask every time you the USA ask. What do we get in return ? A defunked super power who has taken it eye off foreign affairs and allowed a country like Russia which was on it knees before putin arrived. It America that it not live up to it part of the deal.
OssanAmerica
So which nations are Russia's allies to which this policy applies. And does it include the DPRK?
Yes. And he's not wearing a shirt.
stormcrow
My missile is a lot bigger and more powerful than your missile.
Toasted Heretic
Odd how there's no calls for pre-emptive strikes or Russia to be "destroyed".
RealCDN
Is that Putin riding the horse on the flag?
Toasted Heretic
Looks like Florida's the first to go. I can't keep track, to be honest.
Who is Oceania at war with this week? Eurasia or Eastasia?
yakyak
Russia is a very old and outdated country. Half of the population is poor and addicted to alcohol. The other half wants out. Vlads last stand is to talk tough and let the world know mother Russia is still relevant. Russia is relevant, coming from a history perspective. The fact is the U.S. probably already has most of the weapons Russia claims to have invented. Let the games begin again.
Matt Hartwell
That would be nice, but its as much up to the Europeans as the U.S
Russia wants to reincarnate the Soviet Empire in Eastern Europe. They want influence in their old client states, especially those that share culture, history and the Russian language to some degree. That clashes with the objectives of the E.U in growing and a good many citizens in Eastern Europe who see the E.U is far more prosperous than Russia.
Its really an issue the Europeans and Russia need to sort out as much as the U.S
Blacklabel
Obama was weak that’s undeniable. But what is worse is all the things he did as he was walking out the door to ensure anything positive the USA tried to do to repair the relationship would be seen as collusion or with suspicion.
We want to talk to Russia and have a good relationship and work things out mutually. But we can’t as Dems are scrreaming that Russians hacked their emails a(no proof) and other Dems won’t stop the nonsense collusion narrative blaming random “Russians”.
It seems Putin has had enough. So absence of any actual proof is f any of this, I think people need to focus somewhere else for a while.
Cricky
I know, history is made by idiots on the backs of the innocent.
Matt Hartwell
I guess America and its allies will have to do the same. Very sad path we are going down.
I bold "its allies" because it is a long past due that countries other than America commit to do the R&D necessary to build the sort of weapons we need to present a truly viable deterrent to Russia and China. We MUST work together on this technology. Why is it always Russia v U.S? China & Russia v U.S? The U.S can't do it alone anymore. The Europeans need to be bashed around the head relentlessly until they step up to the plate. 500 million Europeans largely doing nothing. Japan also needs to step up. South Korea, Australia, Canada, U.K. All of them. India as well should be part of this conversation.
The German government is currently undergoing a massive cyber attack. Maybe that will wake them up from there slumber.
I've read a couple articles and watched a couple videos about the bunkers these billionaires are building in N.Z and elsewhere. None of them are capable of withstanding the sort of weapons Russia is talking about. What is the point? Designed for the zombie apocalypse?
Daniel Naumoff
Cricky, they do not think its a badge of honour. They know they are an ultimate scum one can find amongst living human beings in this age. And they know that if they lose grip everyone who has suffered under them will repay their malice [x]fold. Those degenerates, oligarchy and their puppet Putin, average Russians who believe in what Putin says, they are here for the time being. In 20-30 years most human litter responsible for the previous century will die out, and then the reforms will begin without much friction. It is a matter of not letting those responsible to scar the world any further.
dcog9065
None of this is really new, no one expects missile defense to work when there are hundreds of incoming missiles, a dozen warheads on each missile, and a dozen decoys on each missile too, all at the same time. Missile defense is aimed at limited strikes.
So Putin’s rhetoric is just that. Even he is not so stupid to know that if Russia ever uses any nuke, their low quality and poverty-stricken civilization will be made extinct and not too many people around the world will care much.
The fact that Putin has to make speeches like this to his brain dead fawners, shows that his hold on power is weaker than we think
CrazyJoe
What does Russia’s newly announced nuclear systems mean?
That we have the weakest, most subservient, feckless, castrated wimp & laughingstock ever to occupy the White House. Not only do NO world leaders take him seriously, they know that while the USA currently has no leader they can do whatever the hell they want!
Remember when right wingers mocked President Obama for not being strong enough? You don't hear that from the emasculated conservative weenies any more, do you?
katsu78
And now here we see the massive propaganda coup the Putin regime won by getting an unqualified, impulsive idiot like Trump elected in the US. For years the Russian leadership has passed off their nuclear weapons program as defensive, but since the Cuban Missile Crisis there has been no credible argument that the US would use nuclear weapons aggressively. Now thanks to President Bonespurs' irresponsible rhetoric, things have changed, and Russia can speak about having a defensive nuclear weapons program and the world will say, "Well, maybe they do have something to be worried about."
It's all well and good to say you don't care what the rest of the world thinks about you, but in a world were civilization-destroying weapons can be shot at anywhere on the planet, international perception matters. Through insidious propaganda, Putin has managed to successfully portray himself as the firm hand on the tiller
Cricky
Megalomaniac actions from a megalomaniac. Why do these brain damaged people get the power to destroy us all. And then think it's a badge of honour. What a moronic act.
CrazyJoe
Since at least the 1980's American scientists have been warning us that missile defense can be defeated by our enemies at a fraction of the cost of building the missile defense system itself. Here we are, decades later, trillions spent and we have a defense system that works 50% of the time if the target will only stand still or cooperate with the attacking missile in some other way and are only fired one at a time. The scientists also warned that missile defense, besides being ineffectual, would be destabilizing and would create problems for us, just as Putin's actions have demonstrated.
Why doesn’t our President want to implement the mandatory sanctions passed by congress against Russia? I haven’t seen him address that question.