Senate Republicans push resolution assailing House impeachment process

The Dems are attempting a coup with all these secret, closed door meetings.

Someone clearly doesn't know what a coup is.

Where’s the transparency?

Good question. Why isn't Donny being transparent by releasing documents and allowing people to testify?

Donny can confront his accusers during the trial in the senate. Republicans and Trumpophiles don't seem to grasp that the impeachment won't process is the investigstion and what would be a grand jury in a normal judicial proceeding. The accused is not afforded the opportunity to change front his accusers in either of these settings.

Republicans and Trumpophiles sure do whine a lot and never hesitate to play the victim card.

The Dems are attempting a coup

Someone needs to look up coup in the dictionary so they don’t look silly for being entirely wrong.

Elected Democrats have been searching for three years for any evidence that would support their preconceived notion that Trump must be impeached. Democrats claimed a crime, and then searched for evidence. And yet they still don't have the votes in the U.S. House to actually hold an impeachment.

Pelosi has now established a new precedent for future impeachments. Any future Speaker of the House may initiate an impeachment of any future President based solely on the politics of the person who is 2nd in line to replace that President.

Pelosi has now established a new precedent for future impeachments. Any future Speaker of the House may initiate an impeachment of any future President based solely on the politics of the person who is 2nd in line to replace that President.

They probably should have just left impeachment for oral sex situations, right?

 Any future Speaker of the House may initiate an impeachment of any future President based solely on the politics of the person who is 2nd in line to replace that President.

That's a positive, for example if there are allegations the president has been involved in money laundering, insider trading, asking foreign powers to interfere in US state affairs, has unethically profited from his time in office, has repeatedly lied to the American people, has further divided the nation, along with a long list of other allegations. And facts

Seven Senators have confirmed they oppose impeachment to the Daily Caller. Sens. James Inhofe (Oklahoma), Cindy Hyde-Smith (Mississippi), Thom Tillis (North Carolina), Roger Wicker (Mississippi), Mike Rounds (South Dakota), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Jerry Moran (Kansas). (CNN yesterday)

These Senators have just disqualified themselves as jurors for the Senate Impeachment Trial. When they swear on the Bible to view the evidence with an open mind they will be perjuring themselves.

I want them thrown off the Jury. If they are not we can consider the Senate Trial a sham

@burningbushattempting a coup

'Coup', joining 'hoax', 'witch hunt', 'lynching', 'exonerated' along with other terms from the alt right glossary. The global alt right movement understands the audience they're trying to reach, especially those with limited reasoning skills, those who can only parrot what they've heard Trump and his TV and radio media shills say, and have read (for those able to read) from alt right publications like RT/Breitbart/infowars and the hundreds of others making up global rightwing media. Fortunately the alt right remain a global minority.

Arrestpaul:. Elected Democrats have been searching for three years

?

The Mueller investigation was put in place by a Republican Depuity AG. Democrats had nothing to do with it.

I think what you're describing would be the dozen or so Benghazi and email investigations that produced exactly zero indictments.

Pelosi has now established a new precedent

New precedents suddenly worry you? Like a President raiding the budget for a wall? Or the Senate refusing to consider a Supreme Court Justice? Or not releasing taxes? Or not divesting in your business? Or using government assets to investigate political rivals? Or trying to profit from G7 meetings? Or throwing our intelligence agencies under the bus and siding with our enemies? Or not consulting the Pentagon on military matters?

I kinda thought you liked throwing precedents out the window.

Someone needs to look up coup in the dictionary so they don’t look silly for being entirely wrong.

Yes Pelosi and her minions have been working on effecting a coup since before Trump took office. It’s has just been taking longer than they thought it would.

Pelosi has now established a new precedent for future impeachments. 

That is one of the positive aspects of the Dems overreaching in their zeal to overthrow Trump. The next Dem will be much easier to impeach than Clinton was. Republicans will not even be required to hold open hearings. They can deny Dems the ability to defend the Dem president and can leak damaging evidence without fear of repercussions. Also today’s low journalism standards makes it easier to assert wrongdoing by a Leftist president without high standards of journalism ethics to encumber the counter strike. I just hope Trump is planting Right wingers among the bureaucracy of government to gum up the ability for the next Dem president to run their government.

The precedent I like is the president being able to divert money away from other areas to pet projects, like Trump is doing with military money for the wall. I'm looking forward to seeing which republican programs the democrats strip cash from to support healthcare when the next democratic president comes around. I reckon the military budget could do with a little hollowing out.

@PTownsend: Coup', joining 'hoax', 'witch hunt', 'lynching', 'exonerated' along with other terms from the alt right glossary.

Actually that’s the glossary used by Dems to defend Bill Clinton. Biden and several other Dems riled up the black community by calling it a lynching.

They can deny Dems the ability to defend the Dem president and can leak damaging evidence without fear of repercussions. 

Not in the senate trial. Once again, the impeachment proceedings in the House are akin to the investigation and grand jury proceedings in a normal judicial setting. Why can't you people get this straight; it's almost as if you're intentionally muddying the waters.

I just hope Trump is planting Right wingers among the bureaucracy of government to gum up the ability for the next Dem president to run their government.

Why would you hope that Donny is fulfilling the Trumpophile conspiracy theory of the existence of a Deep State? That would be harmful to our democratic republic.

WolfpackToday  08:22 am JST

That is one of the positive aspects of the Dems overreaching in their zeal to overthrow Trump. The next Dem will be much easier to impeach than Clinton was. Republicans will not even be required to hold open hearings. They can deny Dems the ability to defend the Dem president and can leak damaging evidence without fear of repercussions.

That's positive? You won't mind Republicans behaving the same way even if the allegations against a Democratic President are as baseless as you consider the ones against Trump to be? Walked past any gutters recently? You might find that you dropped your morals in one.

RIP the Grand Old Party - its now the Guardians of Putin and Trump Cultists...

Forget balanced budgets, free trade, strong international partnerships, a strong America...they want a weak, isolated US that abandons its friends and allies, led by a crime family syndicate just like Russia.

A weak US just makes it easier for Putin to make Russia Great Again...

They ought to take their US flag lapel pins off and replace them with the Russian flag...

Don’t worry about being falsely arrested. You will get a trial after your name has been drug though the mud for years. Don’t worry we already know you will be acquitted despite nearly half the jury confirmed to hate you.

we are still going to do this to you just to ruin your reputation. Anything you say or do to defend yourself before trial is considered obstruction and will be added to your charges at trial.

does this sound fair to you?

Hillary?

Don’t worry about being falsely arrested. You will get a trial after your name has been drug though the mud for years. Don’t worry we already know you will be acquitted despite nearly half the jury confirmed to hate you.

we are still going to do this to you just to ruin your reputation. Anything you say or do to defend yourself before trial is considered obstruction and will be added to your charges at trial.

does this sound fair to you?

As was pointed out above, it sounds exactly like Repubs smear of Hillary in 2015/6 and admitted by Rep Kevin McCarthy...

https://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9423339/kevin-mccarthy-benghazi

Can we spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y?

Also didn’t you notice the Dem who was expected to be picked to lead one of the 3 impeachment committees was quietly passed over?

nazi tattoo and sleeping with staffers. That’s not good. But yeah we got that Drumpf now!

These Senators have just disqualified themselves as jurors for the Senate Impeachment Trial.

If that’s so then the House Democrats should step down immediately and not only on impeachment, but they need to resign.

When they swear on the Bible to view the evidence with an open mind they will be perjuring themselves.

Bill Clinton is a Christian, swore on the Bible and lied during his taped deposition, but it just doesn’t stop there, remember the Christian loving John Edwards? Don’t start with the religion rant, it undercuts your argument. Lol

I want them thrown off the Jury. If they are not we can consider the Senate Trial a sham

The entire impeachment hoax should be thrown out as a complete sham and that’s more evident every day.

If that’s so then the House Democrats should step down immediately and not only on impeachment, but they need to resign.

This is irrelevant to a fact-finder in a judicial setting proclaiming their bias before having heard any of the evidence.

Trump fans never say he's innocent.

This is irrelevant to a fact-finder in a judicial setting proclaiming their bias before having heard any of the evidence.

Its relevant all of it because those of us who lived through the bill Clinton impeachment can see right through the hypocrisy of democrats when they complained about the political process over 21 years ago. This is the liberal hypocrisy on display at its shiniest level.

Ok now do Adam Schiff!

This is irrelevant to a fact-finder in a judicial setting proclaiming their bias before having heard any of the evidence.

Trump doesn’t have to prove himself innocent. You have to prove him guilty, and you can’t. If you can, let’s vote and get the trial going!

Trumpets: direct question. Do you think Trump is entirely innocent?

StrangerlandToday  10:02 am JST

Trumpets: direct question. Do you think Trump is entirely innocent?

I will be very surprised if you get a direct answer.

In other words you agree.

To liberal incompetency, yes.

Well, it seems like the DOJ is opening a criminal inquiry with real bite to it, subpoenas could be launched and Durham is expanding his investigation.

So now we have two investigations going, should be very interesting.

Yes until you prove him guilty, he is entirely innocent. that’s how it works in the USA (and why lots of your favorite Dems aren’t in jail)

and Bill Clinton lied under oath. Big no no.

Blacklabel: Trump doesn’t have to prove himself innocent. You have to prove him guilty

Exactly. Before you were spouting some nonsense about an allegation standing until it's disproved.

and you can’t

That remains to be seen. But again, it's good you understand this point of view. Now apply it to Biden and his son.

If you can, let’s vote and get the trial going!

I agree. I think Trump will survive, but I also think it will be a vote that haunts the GOP for a generation. And you don't have the demographics to wait a generation.

Nope I have never said an allegation is sufficient- that’s your side about Kavanaugh.

dems always get away with things because the results are usually administrative findings, there are almost never criminal investigations opened. 500 security violations on emails. Everyone is proven innocent you say!

well not many criminal investigations until just now: (uh oh)

“The Justice Department has reportedly opened a criminal investigation into its own Russia probe The New York Times reports.”

let the everyone must “recuse” cries begin!

Trumpets: direct question. Do you think Trump is entirely innocent?

No one is entirely innocent.

Anti-Trumpers: direct question. What impeachable crimes has Trump committed?

Trump doesn’t have to prove himself innocent. You have to prove him guilty, and you can’t. If you can, let’s vote and get the trial going!

Investigations don't adhere to an arbitrary timetable set by a triggered Trumpophile.

Isn't that what is being being investigated by the congress but it looks like it be the end of the year before the congress decides. Isn't asking Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden a crime, which seems to have boosted his poll to 35%.

Trumpophiles are ignoring the possible crimes of Donny and asking us to start making up untethered conspiracy theories like they do.

Investigations don't adhere to an arbitrary timetable set by a triggered Trumpophile.

Yes, so it’ll be good to see what Durham will find in the next few months.

Biden a crime, which seems to have boosted his poll to 35%.

At the same time, Biden is not raising any money compared to the GOP

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/obama-clinton-donors-biden-fundraising-056246

Yes, so it’ll be good to see what Durham will find in the next few months.

Agreed. And what the House uncovers.

At the same time, Biden is not raising any money compared to the GOP

Okay.

No matter what poll you look at, Trump's approval is WAY higher than Congress' approval.

The Democrats are going to pay dearly for this clown show in 2020.

Blacklabel:. there are almost never criminal investigations opened. 500 security violations on emails.

No one cares about this crazy stuff.

Serrano:. The Democrats are going to pay dearly for this clown show in 2020.

You think Trump is innocent?

No matter what poll you look at, Trump's approval is WAY higher than Congress' approval.

The Democrats are going to pay dearly for this clown show in 2020.

Yup and then when he wins again, what will the Democrats do then? Try and impeach him again?? Because if he wins reelection, then there is just no stopping him, because then he has the greenlight to do whatever he wants to do and then the Democrats are really in a world of.......

No matter what poll you look at, Trump's approval is WAY higher than Congress' approval.

Serrano in with polls as evidence because they favor his narrative. He'll be happy to trash them when you point out the majority of Americans favor impeachment.

Because if he wins reelection, then there is just no stopping him, because then he has the greenlight to do whatever he wants to do 

This isn't true. Being re-elected doesn't mean you can do what you want. I know you want Trump to be your God-Emperor but the US government doesn't allow that.

Yep your polls might. this one doesn’t.

“52% majority says impeachment is political to stop @realDonaldTrump reelection.

only 36% legal.

47%-33% say @POTUS shouldn’t cooperate and 59%-33% say it’s a waste n Dems need to work w/ Reps to solve nations problems.”

https://mclaughlinonline.com/2019/10/24/national-survey-impeachment-related-issue-results-10-24-19/

Now an “administrative review” turning into a criminal investigation....that can’t be good.

No polls are going to be taken asking if guilty people should go to jail or not. They will be going when/if found guilty.

Not like before when people did lots of things wrong that are likely crimes but someone “declined to prosecute”.

What you are witnessing are the GOP's final death throes. Trump will go down in flames, taking his enablers with him.

Yeah, the Dems have been saying this for 3 years now. But to be fair the GOP said the same about Hillary.

His supporters, having lost the cultral and economic wars, will find themselves literally in the wilderness, which is the part of the US most of them inhabit, while the rest of the country gets on with the 21st century.

Whst?

The rural, white, aged and dying Fox demographic is done for. If you resist, you're facing an existential crisis over which you have no control. You cannot change or escape the inevitable. Face it.

Aha...ok...lol

This isn't true. Being re-elected doesn't mean you can do what you want.

Hey, please tell the Democrats that...

Anyway, once that happens the Dems will be powerless to stop him or you think they will continue to obstruct him and resist him for 4 more years? Not a chance if they want to take the WH in 2024. There’s no way they can do that for more years and have the constituents be patient.

I know you want Trump to be your God-Emperor

No, that was the last President to be PC.

but the US government doesn't allow that.

yeah, that’s what we thought about the intelligence agency, that’s what we thought about the Democrats, that’s what we thought about the state department as well

expat - The rural, white, aged and dying Fox demographic is done for. If you resist, you're facing an existential crisis over which you have no control. You cannot change or escape the inevitable. Face it.

I remember when Democrats were proclaiming Hillary would be the next POTUS. Maybe the Democrat Party Quija board is in need of major repairs?

SuperLib - No one cares about this crazy stuff.

Democrats, and Hillary worshippers, can only hope that "no one" cares about the crazy Democrat Party irregularities, and crimes. It looks like they will be sorely disappointed. Again.

“Democrats say whistleblower deposition no longer central to impeachment investigation: report”

nice trick! Use a Trump hating friend as a”whistleblower” to open an investigation. Then use that investigation to force people to testify by subpoena in private. Leak the supposed results of the interviews you like as no one can dispute what you leak. Then use leaked comments to “prove” your claims are true.

Then say don’t need the whistleblower to even testify.

No one worships Hillary. How can you not understand that.

No one worships Hillary. How can you not understand that

I guess that’s somewhat of a relief to hear.

"You complain about the process when you are losing." -- Mitch McConnell, December 2017.

SuperLib: You think Trump is innocent?

I think he is innocent of impeachable offenses. I know you do, but you have no evidence.

Watch this and then tell us if you still think the Democrats are carrying out this impeachment inquiry properly -

Levin calls out Democrats' 'tyrannical' impeachment process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eswfEKMQGts

"You complain about the process when you are losing

Liberals complain about the process being legally challenged.

Liberals complain about the process being legally challenged.

Try reading the article again. This isn't about liberals complaining.

Try reading the article again. This isn't about liberals complaining.

But that’s what they’re doing, that’s what they have been doing for the last three years, if you want to complain about the Republicans whining, they got a good reason if you think the president has a bad attitude towards the Democrats, if I were being impeached unjustly, I would have an attitude and complain as well.

But that’s what they’re doing, 

No, again this is not about liberals. The Republicans are the ones complaining here. I quoted Mitch McConnell above to show their hypocrisy on the issue.

. . . if I were being impeached unjustly . . .

There is nothing "unjust" about how things are proceeding. The Democrats are simply following the rules that the Republicans put into place during the Clinton Impeachment.

There is nothing "unjust" about how things are proceeding. The Democrats are simply following the rules that the Republicans put into place during the Clinton Impeachment.

Trumpophiles do t care about justice, they care about staying in power. Isn't that obvious from their constant stream of irrelevant, bad faith arguments? They literally have zero substance to advance so go in for the whataboutliberals and but democrats.

Trump Link to Russians, Google The Moscow Project

Watch this and then tell us if you still think the Democrats are carrying out this impeachment inquiry properly  . . .

Read this and tell us if you think that the Democrats are carrying out this impeachment inquiry properly:

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/467337-fox-news-napolitano-republicans-are-protesting-their-own-rules-for-impeachment

No, again this is not about liberals. The Republicans are the ones complaining here.

With valid reason, we have to listen to three years of liberals complaining and moaning and still do to this very day.

.There is nothing "unjust" about how things are proceeding.

Yes, there is.

The Democrats are simply following the rules that the Republicans put into place during the Clinton Impeachment.

I see, two wrongs make a right. Ok, so then please don’t complain about McConnell holding up the Senate because he’s as you have said, is following the rules put in place by Harry Reid.

Trumpophiles do t care about justice, they care about staying in power. Isn't that obvious from their constant stream of irrelevant, bad faith arguments? They literally have zero substance to advance so go in for the whataboutliberals and but democrats.

Gosh, all the bad arguments Democrats are making now, but felt justified in doing 21 years ago. Smh....

Yes, there is.

Please tell us then. Make sure to be specific and cite rules and regulations that can be found in the Constitution so we can verify your claims.

I see, two wrongs make a right. 

Are you telling us that the rules that Republicans made during the Clinton Impeachment that are being followed now were wrong? Wow! When did you come to this realization?

Trump Link to Russians, Google The Moscow Project

No Trump-Russian collusion, Google the Mueller Report.

Read this and tell us if you think that the Democrats are carrying out this impeachment inquiry properly:

I see you didn't bother to watch the Levin report. And Judge Nap left out a whole bunch of stuff. He's been pissed ever since he was passed over for a seat on SCOTUS, and can't be impartial.

No Trump-Russian collusion, Google the Mueller Report.

I've read the Mueller Report. It's clear that you haven't.

I see you didn't bother to watch the Levin report. 

Nope, since Mark Levin has proven to be nothing but a hyper-partisan shill on the far right. If I use your words, he "can't be impartial."

And Judge Nap left out a whole bunch of stuff.

Like what? Please tell us.

Are you telling us that the rules that Republicans made during the Clinton Impeachment that are being followed now were wrong? Wow! When did you come to this realization?

No, what I’m saying is, the Dems shouldn’t be so hard on McConnell, he’s just copying his former counterpart, Harry Reid.

I've read the Mueller Report.

I have as well, No collision.....well, now it’s part two, so let’s throw in Ukraine and if that doesn’t work maybe Uzbekistan?

Nope, since Mark Levin has proven to be nothing but a hyper-partisan shill on the far right. If I use your words, he "can't be impartial."

But we need to listen to the partisans like Adam Schiff on the left and take his word? What? Lol

No, what I’m saying is, the Dems shouldn’t be so hard on McConnell, he’s just copying his former counterpart, Harry Reid.

No, Harry Reid did not pull even half of the shenanigans that McConnell has.

I have as well . . .

I seriously doubt that, especially if you read it in English.

But we need to listen to the partisans like Adam Schiff on the left and take his word . . .

I'm taking the words of testimony by Ambassador Taylor and other witnesses in this proceeding. Try arguing against what they said instead of your perceived Boogie Man.

No, what I’m saying is, the Dems shouldn’t be so hard on McConnell, he’s just copying his former counterpart, Harry Reid.

So, you are not commenting on the House operating under republican set rules, correct? We all know that that means! Irrelevant!!!!

But we need to listen to the partisans like Adam Schiff on the left and take his word? What? L

Who said this? Schiff is just following the republican rules.

No, Harry Reid did not pull even half of the shenanigans that McConnell has.

No, he wouldn’t even allow ver 320 GOP legislations on to the floor.

I seriously doubt that,

That’s your right. My right is to call Schiff a vindictive fool.

That’s your right. My right is to call Schiff a vindictive fool.

You can call Schiff and other Democrats all the names that you like. However, you still didn't adress my point about drawing my own conclusions from the testimony of the witnesses such as Ambassador Taylor and others.

These are not the impeachment proceedings themselves but rather an investigation into whether to impeach. The police would not be interfered with during their investigation into an alleged serious criminal offence, so nor should Congress.