Trump's attorney general nominee vows to shield Russia probe from politics

Barr served on the Time Warner board from 2009 to June 2018.

So Trump's appointed a media nabob. After all, the reality TV star has long ben a master media manipulator. Look how his 'wall' has distracted media from focusing even more attention on his never ending list of personal and political calamities. Trump's shutdown of the government might cover up his Russia deals, but because the US has a free, for-profit press, truth will come out.

Mueller is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, possible collusion between the Kremlin and Republican Trump's campaign, and potential obstruction of justice. Mueller has secured indictments against or guilty pleas from 33 people and three Russian companies, including former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

Get some MORE Mueller.

Does this mean Trump's going to pull the nomination?

Any gets as to how Trump supporters are going to react? It's just a distraction from Trump's shutdown despite it being Truml's guy that said this?

U.S. President Donald Trump's attorney general nominee, William Barr, will pledge at his confirmation hearing to protect Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe and stress his own independence from the White House, according to prepared testimony released on Monday.

Well, I'd take that with a grain of salt, given the last line on every Trump job application is "Will you lie under oath?"  By the way, the second line up is "Do you speak Russian?"

Trump said on Monday that he never worked for Russia, his first denial after a media report saying the FBI in 2017 investigated whether or not he acted on Moscow's behalf.

What a serial liar - not only has most of his cabinet and his personal lawyer met with Russians, Don Jr and Eric said this:

Eric 2014:  'Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia"

Don Jr 2008:  “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets . . . We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

Barr will also pledge aggressive enforcement of hate crimes and immigration laws, a Trump priority

If he wants to aggressively enforce hate crimes and speech, he better start by investigating the current occupant at the White House...

Barr has taken steps to address concerns about possible conflicts of interest arising from his decades of work in the private sector, where he amassed $37 million in assets.

The Top 1% - bet he got a good tax break...

Trump logic: We should distract the public from news of my personal crimes with a shutdown, so I can hire 17 new attorneys to protect me and the family.

(2016)

Trump: Hillary must be corrupt since the FBI is investigating her.

(2018)

Trump: The FBI must be corrupt because they're investigating me.

LOL! Worst President Ever!

I want to hear him state, in public and under oath, without equivocation or use of the subjunctive, that he will not obstruct the investigation, de-fund it, minimize its staffing or support, or hobble any of its means, and that it will be released publicly. I also want to hear him answer this question, under oath: "Will you please list for us each and every 'proper consideration', even if remote, which you might in the future see which could suggest to you that you should interfere with the investigation."

Keep in mind he was the force behind Bush 1 pardons of the Iran/Contra guns for hostages from the Reagan scandal.

His unitary executive position is public and chilling at best.

Bottom line: a typical trump anti-democracy candidate.

He comes from a corporate empire, so immediately that has him as suspect in my book.

The elite tend to look after their own, make excuses for them etc.

Its interesting to know that Trump has no problems with the Russian intelligence knowing everything about the Helsinki meeting, but made sure that the Americans didnt.

My guess is Mueller has close to what he needs. And the state charges are plugging along.

OK Trumpers, question time - explain these four statements;

Trump Dec 2018:  Asked in an interview with Fox News late Saturday "are you now or have you ever worked for Russia," Trump responded: "I think that's the most insulting thing I've ever been asked."

Trump Dec 2018:  "I never worked for Russia," Trump told reporters. "It's a disgrace that you even asked that question because it's a whole big fat hoax. It's just a hoax."

Eric Trump 2014:  “We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Don Trump Jr 2008:  "We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

We'll be waiting....

And so another day and in the fabricated witch hunt to try and nail the President, the Democrats and their lapdogs the MSM try and try and the latest of outrageous and bogus accusations without a shred of evidence is taunting the Russian narrative once again, I was a big worried hearing nothing about it until the other day. Mueller will dig, Trump will be recommended to probably be indicated and then we'll have boring hearings worse than the OJ trial, 1998 all over again, the Democrats will say remove him, the GOP won't, they'll never get 2/3 of the Senate to do it and then I'll laugh as well as other conservatives, the Dems well brood and then we can hopefully move on after that. Other than that, kind of warm for January.

@bas4  bogus accusations without a shred of evidence

What is this claim based on? The investigations have yet to finish.

I'll laugh as well as other conservatives,

Did you mean Trump followers would laugh? I doubt most US conservatives find humor in allegations Trump's consorted with foreign governments.

But now that Putin's calling himself a 'conservative' it could be his followers would laugh, and probably are laughing at how stupid Americans are for believing Trump was anything other than a reality TV conman.

Putin's various fake news purveyors like the Internet Research Agency and other GRU organizations have used US anti-democracy groups like the NRA and KKK to sway many of Trump's followers. No doubt Putin's bots find humor in that.

What is this claim based on? The investigations have yet to finish. 

So then don’t need to be giddy.

Did you mean Trump followers would laugh? I doubt most US conservatives find humor in allegations Trump's consorted with foreign governments. 

I doubt most Republicans and Conservatives don’t belive the allegations...based on....what?

But now that Putin's calling himself a 'conservative' it could be his followers would laugh, and probably are laughing at how stupid Americans are for believing Trump was anything other than a reality TV conman. 

Putin's various fake news purveyors like the Internet Research Agency and other GRU organizations have used US anti-democracy groups like the NRA and KKK to sway many of Trump's followers. No doubt Putin's bots find humor in that.

What? Oh, dear lord......

@bas4 bogus accusations without a shred of evidence

What is this claim based on? The investigations have yet to finish. 

@bas4 So then don’t need to be giddy.

What's there to be giddy about? Though I disagree with most US conservatives, the ones I know are pro-America and do NOT feel giddy about the allegations that Trump colluded in any way with Russia or any other foreign government.

@bas4 I doubt most Republicans and Conservatives don’t belive the allegations...based on....what?

What?

And so another day and in the fabricated witch hunt to try and nail the President, the Democrats and their lapdogs the MSM try and try and the latest of outrageous and bogus accusations without a shred of evidence is taunting the Russian narrative once again, I was a big worried hearing nothing about it until the other day. Mueller will dig, Trump will be recommended to probably be indicated and then we'll have boring hearings worse than the OJ trial, 1998 all over again, the Democrats will say remove him, the GOP won't, they'll never get 2/3 of the Senate to do it and then I'll laugh as well as other conservatives, the Dems well brood and then we can hopefully move on after that. Other than that, kind of warm for January.

Yada, yada, yada...care to answer my question above at 11:25?

the GOP won't, they'll never get 2/3 of the Senate to do it and then I'll laugh as well as other conservatives, 

Why is the GOP so weak on crime committed by white mem?

What's there to be giddy about? Though I disagree with most US conservatives, the ones I know are pro-America and do NOT feel giddy about the allegations that Trump colluded in any way with Russia or any other foreign government. 

Well, the ones that I hang out with are laughing at these latest allegations....don’t have too many liberal friends though.....

Why is the GOP so weak on crime committed by white mem?

Why are Democrats so weak to ignore crimes by Democrats? That’s the real fundamental question.

Well, the ones that I hang out with are laughing at these latest allegations....don’t have too many liberal friends though.....

What a shocker.

Why are Democrats so weak to ignore crimes by Democrats? That’s the real fundamental question.

Democrats don't ignore crimes by democrats. When there is actual evidence of a crime and not just baseless conservative allegations after numerous conservative investigations that turned out to be duds, we can talk.

Why is the GOP so weak on crime committed by white mem?

Why are Democrats so weak to ignore crimes by Democrats? That’s the real fundamental question.

The good ol "I know you are but what am I?" retort. Sophisticated in the sense of a 7 year old.

Why are Democrats so weak to ignore crimes by Democrats? That’s the real fundamental question.

Or you know, you could, like, address the question put to you.

But to indulge your question - any politician who is up to no good should be investigated. Trump is not above the law, as we shall eventually see.

@bas4 Well, the ones that I hang out with are laughing at these latest allegations

Only anti-Americans would laugh at even the suggestion of the allegations.

But then many Trump supporters have said all along they don't trust US intelligence agencies, instead believe what Putin told Trump; they don't want a free, for-profit press to criticize the president; they don't want the legislative and judicial branches of government to challenge the president.

In other words many Trump supporters want US democratic institutions dismantled to give Trump more control. Sounds anti-American to me.

And to think, some of these anti-American Trump supporters are getting federal moneys as US government contractors. Some even work for propaganda media like US Armed Forces Network.

I can answer 11:25. (1) Donald Trump is neither Eric Trump nor Donald Trump Jr.

(2) “working for” someone and proposing mutually beneficial business deals isn’t the same thing. Working for means that your actions are directed by the other person and your top priority is their benefit over your own.

Did Bill Clinton “work for” Russia. He got money from them for a speech, right?

I can answer 11:25.

Nope, swing and a clear miss - see below;

(1) Donald Trump is neither Eric Trump nor Donald Trump Jr.

Uh, who do the two sons work for?  What Company?  Who do they report to?

Note - both have the Title of "Executive Vice President for the Trump Organization" 

https://www.trump.com/the-next-generation/donald-trump-jr/

(2) “working for” someone and proposing mutually beneficial business deals isn’t the same thing. Working for means that your actions are directed by the other person and your top priority is their benefit over your own.

Word salad - once again;

Trump Dec 2018:  "I never worked for Russia," Trump told reporters. "It's a disgrace that you even asked that question because it's a whole big fat hoax. It's just a hoax."

Eric Trump 2014:  “We (The Trump Organization) don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Don Trump Jr 2008:  "We (The Trump Organization) see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

So you have two Vice Presidents of the Trump Organization saying the company receives money from Russia.  But the CEO says "that's a hoax"

Trumpers - Explain these statements again...we'll be waiting....

Trump didn’t say it’s a hoax that a company he owns got money from a Russian or Russian(s) who bought a house.

He said it’s a hoax that he colluded with Russia to win the election and then he does the bidding of Russia.

so he doesn’t “work for” Russia. No more than Bill Clinton “works for” Russia.

Democrats don't ignore crimes by democrats.

Fast and furious, Holder

Lois Lerner IRS scandal....that’s just a tidbit of the accolades of Democrats crimes that they so conveniently and purposely ignore.

When there is actual evidence of a crime and not just baseless conservative allegations after numerous conservative investigations that turned out to be duds, we can talk.

Ahh, you mean like with the President? Ok, I gotcha...

Only anti-Americans would laugh at even the suggestion of the allegations. 

Then please don’t, it’s not funny.

But then many Trump supporters have said all along they don't trust US intelligence agencies, instead believe what Putin told Trump; they don't want a free, for-profit press to criticize the president; they don't want the legislative and judicial branches of government to challenge the president. 

Funny, when Obama was President, Democrats by a huge margin didn’t trust the FBI or the CIA and we won’t get started on Homeland, but the Democrats (ahem) amnesia that they were skeptical about the ethics of the FBI generally speaking and the reversal is very similar to the reversal they made on border security. Democrats will change always according the daily weather pattern.

In other words many Trump supporters want US democratic institutions dismantled to give Trump more control. Sounds anti-American to me. 

So now they're socialists???

And to think, some of these anti-American Trump supporters are getting federal moneys as US government contractors. Some even work for propaganda media like US Armed Forces Network.

Republicans are not the ones trying to turn the country into another Cuba.

@bas4 So now they're socialists???

And to think, some of these anti-American Trump supporters are getting federal moneys as US government contractors. Some even work for propaganda media like US Armed Forces Network.

Would you call it socialism when government contractors, for example journalists and sound men and other employees working for Armed Forces Network, who get paid by a 'private' corporation that gets its funding from a government agency? Some say these contractors are able to use PX facilities here in Japan.

And then back in the real world...

yes.....

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/323548-why-wont-the-media-cover-irs-scandals

Neither is anyone else.

Yes, because Democrats are not the party of capitalism, self-reliance, less government, LESS entitlements. Moonbats like Ocasio-Cortez so far have not. Anywhere near advocated for capitalist pro-growth agenda, as usual her and her mentor Bernie and his bros are running on a platform for massive government and income redistribution....again. Lol

Would you call it socialism when government contractors, for example journalists and sound men and other employees working for Armed Forces Network, who get paid by a 'private' corporation that gets its funding from a government agency? Some say these contractors are able to use PX facilities here in Japan.

Gee, I didn’t know this is a giant massive entitlement expenditure that tax payers need for their everyday lives and that the service is necessary for everyday mental, social and emotional stability? Try again please....

Yes, because Democrats are not the party of capitalism, self-reliance, less government, LESS entitlements. 

Given Obama grew the private sector and shrank the public sector along with kicking off the current bull market, your analysis is utterly incorrect.

Moonbats like Ocasio-Cortez so far have not.

Remind us. What was it you said about liberals using insults, yesterday?

OC is just one alternative to the Trump way and the tired Dems. Shouldn't you be rejoicing over the blossoming of actual choice in the stuck and moribund US political system?

Why did republicans ignore these alleged crimes?

Good question, why was James Rosen and all Republicans donors audited and taken out of the 2012 election cycle? And what was the hot mic when the President leaned over

Medvedev whispering “after the election, I’ll have more flexibility...” sounds like collusion to me.

Thats not how a system is determined to be socialist

I disagree.

So what evidence again so the Dems have with this Russian witch hunt again on Trump? Oh, nothing, that’s right. Mueller, do what you need to do, so that this President can get back to work and these Democrats can calm down and move along. They need to get their Cirque du Soleil acrobats ready. The show must go on!

@bas4 Gee, I didn’t know this is a giant massive entitlement expenditure that tax payers need for their everyday lives and that the service is necessary for everyday mental, social and emotional stability? Try again please....

What?

Medvedev whispering “after the election, I’ll have more flexibility...” sounds like collusion to me.

Good thing you don't claim to be a lawyer.

I disagree. 

Okay, but it doesn't change the fact that your post is not how a system is determined to be socialist.

So what evidence again so the Dems have with this Russian witch hunt again on Trump?

For the ten millionth time, we don't know because Muelker hadn't concluded his investigation .

Oh, nothing, that’s right. 

If you want to call the overwhelming anecdotal evidence nothing, feel free to jump to conclusions.

Trumpers,

Two swings and misses - the question still remains unanswered....here's some more info that you can help us understand;

The two Vice Presidents of the Trump Organization have said;

Eric Trump 2014:  “We (The Trump Organization) don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Don Trump Jr 2008:  "We (The Trump Organization) see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

Their father, and CEO, has said;

July 26, 2016: "I mean, I have nothing to do with Russia. I don't have any jobs in Russia. I'm all over the world but we're not involved in Russia," 

July 26, 2016: "For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia," Trump tweets.

Jan. 11, 2017: Trump tells reporters that he has "no deals that could happen in Russia because we've stayed away," adding that he could "make deals in Russia very easily" but "I just don't want to because I think that would be a conflict."

Jan. 11, 2017: "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!," Trump tweets.

Once more, explain this to us - we'll be waiting....

Here's a handy cut out & keep chart for your wall (not that one!) folks

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

And dealings going back to '86

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-business-financial-ties-2018-11

I don’t see how Trump fans could possibly support Barr. He’s clearly saying that he will let a corrupt investigation continue.

Or is this that, “let me tell you it’s corrupt but then say no one needs to be fired” thing Trump fans do? You know, where they argue with passion and conviction that the whole thing is corrupt then suddenly shrug and say there’s no need for Trump to stop it?

Because we know Mueller has nothing.

Let him finish, put out some nonsense report and go away. Then we can laugh at all you “Mueller’s coming” people who wasted our time and 40 million dollars.

but you still won’t give up, you will just pretend the Russia allegations never happened and back to he’s a racist or sexist or his taxes or obstruction of something.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-report-to-be-almost-certain-to-be-anti-climactic-sources-tell-abcs-karl

blacklabel: Because we know Mueller has nothing. Let him finish, put out some nonsense report and go away. 

Nah, that's not logical by any stretch of the imagination. No one screams about a corrupt witch hunt by the FBI on a sitting American President then turns around and tells us they're just going to sit back, wait for the report, and wait for it all to just go away. Completely illogical.

What is logical is Trump and his team smearing the investigation to turn people against it, but not having any actual evidence that could justify a termination. If he does it without evidence, then it's obvious obstruction, so he can't. So it continues and Trump and Hannity convince people such as yourself that it's the biggest political witch hunt in US history (that we should take no action against).

By the way, what do you think about Barr? You'd think he'd be saying something about the witch hunt, right? All I heard him say was the he was going to allow the witch hunt continue while interviewing for the job. I've been on interviews and I wouldn't tell a company about something that's wrong that I plan on ignoring.

Mueller is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, possible collusion between the Kremlin and Republican Trump's campaign, and potential obstruction of justice.

No one believes this trash besides the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers.

Good thing you don't claim to be a lawyer.

I.l leave that to the liberals.

Okay, but it doesn't change the fact that your post is not how a system is determined to be socialist.

I disagree.

For the ten millionth time, we don't know because Muelker hadn't concluded his investigation . 

Great! So since we are a oountry that believes in the presumption of innocence, so as of now as you say we don’t know what Mueller has, therefore the President is innocent until proven guilty, so it would be premature for you and other liberals to harp on a man that could likely be innocent from the looks of it so far, that would be the fair thing to do and liberals claim to be fair....at least on TV.

Eric Trump 2014:  “We (The Trump Organization) don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

Don Trump Jr 2008:  "We (The Trump Organization) see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

Their father, and CEO, has said;

July 26, 2016: "I mean, I have nothing to do with Russia. I don't have any jobs in Russia. I'm all over the world but we're not involved in Russia," 

July 26, 2016: "For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia," Trump tweets.

Jan. 11, 2017: Trump tells reporters that he has "no deals that could happen in Russia because we've stayed away," adding that he could "make deals in Russia very easily" but "I just don't want to because I think that would be a conflict."

Jan. 11, 2017: "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!," Trump tweets.

Once more, explain this to us - we'll be waiting...

Again, that’s nothing, that is not evidence of any kind whatsoever. You guys are losing your luster. That still doesn’t mean a crime under any circumstance was committed. Where is the hard base evidence that Trump is allegedly working for the Russians? Bless your wittle hearts for trying.

Yet 13 democratic investigators is enough evidence to prove that all of the FBI is corrupt.

I.l leave that to the liberals.

A nonsensical reply.

I disagree.

Again, it doesn't change how a system is determined to be socialist.

Great! So since we are a oountry that believes in the presumption of innocence, so as of now as you say we don’t know what Mueller has, therefore the President is innocent until proven guilty, so it would be premature for you and other liberals to harp on a man that could likely be innocent from the looks of it so far, that would be the fair thing to do and liberals claim to be fair....at least on TV.

Uh . . . You've completely missed the boat again.

Again, that’s nothing, that is not evidence of any kind whatsoever. 

Incorrect. It's at least evidence that either Trump or his sons are lying. The Trump Org cannot simultaneously receive money from Russia and have no dealings with Russia. Try again . . .

Yet 13 democratic investigators is enough evidence to prove that all of the FBI is corrupt.

Accoding to new incoming AG Barr it is.

Incorrect. It's at least evidence that either Trump or his sons are lying. The Trump Org cannot simultaneously receive money from Russia and have no dealings with Russia. Try again . . 

And equally there was more than enough evidence the Democrats lied as well as so many issues from the last administration, so why the one-sided Justice? Oh, I know why....

I’m fine. By now if Mueller had anything we would know. All these other leaks are just preparing liberals for the inevitable. FBI opened a biased counterintelligence investigation based on that dossier and their hurt feelings about Comey. Nothing came of it almost 2 years later

It’s still a witch hunt and all those FBI people are still corrupt. They didn’t open any counterintelligence investigation on Obama and his “flexibility” that didn’t concern them at all for some reason.

The witch hunt can’t find anything on Trump and most of the corrupt people were fired. It worked as a 2 year attack on Trump that gave liberals hope to get a Dem president installed but that’s about it. Now you gotta go win an election.

Again, that’s nothing, that is not evidence of any kind whatsoever. You guys are losing your luster. That still doesn’t mean a crime under any circumstance was committed. Where is the hard base evidence that Trump is allegedly working for the Russians? Bless your wittle hearts for trying.

Trumpers, Jeez, is that all you can say?  For folks so fixated on "winning", all you've done is "swing and miss"...

The two VPs (and sons of the CEO) say they get all the money they need for the Trump Organization from Russia. 

Trump as a candidate and as President says the Trump Organization has "no investments" and "no deals" from Russia...

So what is it?

Educate us - or we'll just have to count this as another one in the "Trumpers got owned" column...

It may be that some democrats have done some things that could or should be investigated, and I think any honest person would want someone who has acted inappropriately with good hard evidence to be dealt with to the full extent of the law, however if that hasn't happened for whatever reason.. and remember the GOP was the majority in government for some time, I expect the reason is, not that the idea of "going after" -name politician here- wasn't explored it was that there wasn't enough to make things stick.

But even if there was that doesn't excuse any wrong doing by anyone else!

Thats a mad as saying, there are murders so it must be ok to kill people now..

There are facts at hand;

Trump and his "charitable organization" was shut down.

Trump is under investigation.

People around Trump have been charged for serious issues.

But

"Work for" is just obfuscation, I don't think anyone is saying he rings up his buddies in Russia to get instructions of whats next, just that he, may be unduly influenced because of his relationships there, possibly has passed on classified information, and Russia unduly having influence on the election in his favor.

Walls, shutdowns, underground pizza pedophile rings blah blah blah so much noise to keep us from the plain truth that this man is not qualified, isn't the amazing negotiator or businessman he claims and should have never been allowed to run. The way he has involved his family, fires anyone that doesn't pretend to adore his is just more evidence of that.

The Republicans were let down by their own party, and anyone but the women and geez lets hope not another black guy, and pandering to evangelicals took over, and were sold a story about shaking up politics and have just ended up with another old white quasi-rich man pretending to talk for them.

And equally there was more than enough evidence the Democrats lied as well as so many issues from the last administration, so why the one-sided Justice? Oh, I know why....

Think about the context. Obama wasn't under a cloud of suspicious due to his personal business ties with Russia before he became POTUS.

You guys and your simplistic outlook. It's funny how you all can be black and white but suddenly spin a conspiracy theory so complex it's is impossible.

blacklabel: It’s still a witch hunt and all those FBI people are still corrupt.

Well we got a few of Trump's people convicted so that's good. Seems odd that Trump lets it continue when people are being sentenced to jail by a corrupt witch hunt that can be justifiably stopped at any time by Trump.

Roger Stone must be thrilled that Trump lets it continue for no reason since he will probably be next to end up behind bars. Maybe Trump doesn't stop the investigation because he wants Stone to go to jail?

What do you think?

What do you think?

They don't; it's all emotion. That's the real issue.

Mananfort, too. He’s going to die in jail.

But there’s really no reason for Trump to stop it since Mueller has nothing. Oh well for Manafort.

Trumpers, come on - you'll wax philosophically on Hillary's e-mails, Obamacare, and even Pizzagate, but can't answer one measly question?

The two VPs (and sons of the CEO) say they get all the money they need for the Trump Organization from Russia. 

Trump as a candidate and as President said the Trump Organization has "no investments" and "no deals" from Russia...

Help us mere Liberals understand...

Or is it when confronted with real facts instead of Russian-authored conspiracy theories, there's nothing you can say?

Think about the context. Obama wasn't under a cloud of suspicious due to his personal business ties with Russia before he became POTUS.

Yes, strange even when he whispered to Medvedev he would have more flexibility after his re-election, now imagine if Trump was caught on a hot mic saying that?

Roger Stone must be thrilled that Trump lets it continue for no reason since he will probably be next to end up behind bars.

On what charge? What bogus charge will Mueller try and get him on?

Maybe Trump doesn't stop the investigation because he wants Stone to go to jail? 

What do you think?

I think liberals and Democrats love the smell of artificial glue.

I don’t believe that anyone believes that Manafort deserves to die in jail while Tony Podesta gets immunity for doing the exact same thing.

Seriously if Manafort gets to die in jail, that’s justice? But it has nothing to do with Trump, Mueller has something on Manafort which will be forgiven if he simply implicates Trump (the actual target).

Yes, strange even when he whispered to Medvedev he would have more flexibility after his re-election, now imagine if Trump was caught on a hot mic saying that?

You're comparing apples and steaks. Obama didn't have previous business dealings with Russia that caused suspicion.

On what charge? What bogus charge will Mueller try and get him on?

Bogus charges don't result in guilty pleas or verdicts.

I don’t believe that anyone believes that Manafort deserves to die in jail while Tony Podesta gets immunity for doing the exact same thing.

Where's your proof?

Here.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/31/the-podesta-emails-show-who-runs-america-and-how-they-do-it

The Guardian? Hahahaha! You may as well cite Breitbart. Seriously, where is actual evidence and not just conservative shrieking?

An opinion piece from a right-wing rag. It just gets better from you guys.

Bass: Yes, strange even when he whispered to Medvedev he would have more flexibility after his re-election

OMG No way. A politician said he wasn’t going to make any major changes during an election? Why isn’t Obama in jail like Manafort? All Manafort did was feed polling data to the Russians who were engaged in a campaign against Clinton after stealing her emails.

On what charge? What bogus charge will Mueller try and get him on?

Who cares as long as he ends up in jail? What’s Trump going to do, produce evidence of a witch hunt and stop everything? No need. Adios, Stone.

The Guardian? Hahahaha! You may as well cite Breitbart.

Why? Because you guys hate Assange? During the Bush years you guys praised him. Why is it you guys change your positions faster than a sidewinder strikes? I don’t get that..

Seriously, where is actual evidence and not just conservative shrieking.

Julian Assange and the Wikileaks cables, seriously.

Blacklabel: I don’t believe that anyone believes that Manafort deserves to die in jail.

Oh well. No need to stop it. He dies in jail and some silly report comes out and we move on. Just like you said.

Seriously if Manafort gets to die in jail, that’s justice?

I think it’s a horrible injustice. But to you....no need to stop it.

Mueller has something on Manafort which will be forgiven if he simply implicates Trump (the actual target).

Cool. Trump will allow it. Silly report and move on and all that.

OMG No way. A politician said he wasn’t going to make any major changes during an election? Why isn’t Obama in jail like Manafort?

BINGO! Now you got it! Finally! Obama didn’t go to prison, there was No crime....sorta...ethically...well...anyway, it’s the exact same thing with Trump. So basically, the media paints and doom and gloom scenario, Democrats scream impeachment, we have stupid hearings symbolic he won’t be removed and then after the tears everyone goes home like the OJ trial and like Obama did with Medvedev and we can all focus on the country again.

Sup, I’m giving you a thumbs up, but for real!

Who cares as long as he ends up in jail?

But that won’t happen, and for what? So how will you go on?

Trump pardons him then what? Try to re-arrest him again on more bogus charges

BINGO! Now you got it! Finally! Obama didn’t go to prison, there was No crime....sorta...ethically...well...anyway, it’s the exact same thing with Trump

No, it isn't the same thing. Saying you have felixibility to work with another country is a far cry from working with the other country to win an election.

No, it isn't the same thing.

Yes, it is, you had two Presidents speaking in private to one another. Again, the video doesn’t lie. What was said “off mic” we don’t know by either of them.

Saying you have felixibility to work with another country is a far cry from working with the other country to win an election.

How do you know that? You don’t know what was said between the two privately. You absolutely don’t know. You cannot definitively say nor prove it.

Trumpers, come on - you'll wax philosophically on Hillary's e-mails, Obamacare, and even Pizzagate, but can't answer one measly question?

The two VPs (and sons of the CEO) say they get all the money they need for the Trump Organization from Russia. 

Trump as a candidate and as President said the Trump Organization has "no investments" and "no deals" from Russia...

Help us mere Liberals understand...

Or is it when confronted with real facts instead of Russian-authored conspiracy theories, there's nothing you can say?

Well, I guess there's nothing they can say...we'll mark it down in the "win" category for us...

Yes, it is, you had two Presidents speaking in private to one another. Again, the video doesn’t lie. What was said “off mic” we don’t know by either of them.

You've gone and confused yourself again. We are talking about candidate Trump and president Obama. Candidate Trump was under a cloud of suspicion because of his business dealings with Russia. President Obama was not. But, yeah, sure, it's the same.

How do you know that? You don’t know what was said between the two privately. You absolutely don’t know. You cannot definitively say nor prove it.

Uh . . . Obama was on a hot mic. I know that saying you have flexibility to work with another country is a far cry from working with another country to win an election because I understand the meanings of each word I typed.

You've gone and confused yourself again.

I’m never confused, it’s Wednesday.

We are talking about candidate Trump and president Obama. Candidate Trump was under a cloud of suspicion because of his business dealings with Russia. President Obama was not. But, yeah, sure, it's the same.

It doesn’t matter, talking to two Russian presidents, we have two American presidents that have done this.

Uh . . . Obama was on a hot mic.

Yes.

I know that saying you have flexibility to work with another country is a far cry from working with another country to win an election because I understand the meanings of each word I typed.

I believe that, but you fail to see that words matter and optics matter and you have two Presidents that have talked to two Russian Presidents, what they said, is unknown once the mics were off.

Bass: Bogus charges don't result in guilty pleas or verdicts. Try again.

 Other than that, kind of warm for January.

suppose it is if your still getting a wage and can afford the heating.

Obama didn’t go to prison, there was No crime

Yes, and now because Trump is listening to Putin's orders to keep the government shut down the US economy is starting to contract. Obama never did anything like this.

Problem is, you can’t dismiss Wikileaks.

thats fair, but then you certainly cant dismiss Muller of the FB either, end of the day the FBI is working for the security of the American people, wikileaks isnt.

Problem is, you can’t dismiss Wikileaks. That’s like dismissing the rising of the morning sun.

You have more faith in Wikileaks than you have in the FBI and other intelligence agencies. Very patriotic.

Because you guys hate Assange?

Is he still hiding in the Ecuador embassy?

Trump's attorney general nominee vows to shield Russia probe from politics

That's right. Take the politics off the special counsel's Russia investigation.

Keep Mueller. Depoliticized. Sack half of the 100% partisan Democratic prosecution team and hire Republicans in their place to keep a balance.

Start looking at all sides in this whole Russia thing. Was the dossier false? Was the FISA court lied to? Who paid whom? Was the Hillary campaign in collusion with Russians? Did the Obama admin weaponize intel agencies against political opponents? Who are the deep state, those unelected usurpers of power?

This is far from over. In a good way.

Be careful what you wish for.

Trump's attorney general nominee vows to shield Russia probe from politics

That's right. Take the politics off the special counsel's Russia investigation. 

The politics can never be taken off the investigation because you cannot get the outside parties to do that.

Keep Mueller. Depoliticized.

Mueller is a profession and a republican, he keeps his politics out of his professional duties.

Sack half of the 100% partisan Democratic prosecution team and hire Republicans in their place to keep a balance.

Why would the republicans not be 100% partisan?

Never mind the IG reports. Yep, plural; as in more than one.

hire Republicans in their place to keep a balance.

Mueller is Republican. Trump approved him. Trump voters thing anyone not Trump is Liberal.

Was the dossier false?

Looks more and more he was peed on by hookers (or the other way around - or both). Why not just admit and and move on. Then he will no longer be a Russian agent.

Just a reminder, whatever side you learn to, the Guardian is a liberal UK newspaper. It has its faults, sure, but it's not a right wing publication.

And it certainly is on the ball when it comes to the global security risk that is Trump.

Nixon resigned before he was impeached. But at least he was not an agent for another country. At least he was a patriot. Trump is working for Putin

Half of Mueller's team will be sacked and replaced by Republicans. So you'll have 50% of the team partisan Democrat and 50% of the team staunch Republican prosecutors or judges. See the beauty of it?

Depoliticized.

As for Mueller being Republican, - in name only, if I may add, well, it's time he reports to the real Administration, and certainly not to a Rosenstein. More exposes on their shenanigans forthcoming to be sure along with those other usual suspects.

The deep state needs to be purged.

bass links to an interesting Graun article. It's worth reading. What may have left out of the equation is that the author Thomas Frank is no fan of Trump, calling him the "worst President ever" in other articles. Still -

This genre of Podesta email, in which people try to arrange jobs for themselves or their kids, points us toward the most fundamental thing we know about the people at the top of this class: their loyalty to one another and the way it overrides everything else... no elite bankers were ever prosecuted by the Obama administration. Read these emails and you understand, with a start, that the people at the top tier of American life all know each other. They are all engaged in promoting one another’s careers, constantly.

The Graun is spot on in targetting the elite, be they Repubs or Dems. This is precisely why, as long as either party in their current incarnations, will continue to treat the working class like dirt.

Something's gotta give. In the end, Russian collusion aside, the American people are being trampled underfoot, as ever.

Half of Mueller's team will be sacked and replaced by Republicans. So you'll have 50% of the team partisan Democrat and 50% of the team staunch Republican prosecutors or judges. See the beauty of it?

Most of them are Republicans already - but the point is moot - civil servants do their job, irrespective of other factors. We understand that's a concept Trumpers can't grasp...binary thinking and all that...

Depoliticized.

Already is...

As for Mueller being Republican, - in name only, if I may add, well, it's time he reports to the real Administration, and certainly not to a Rosenstein.

Great strategy - to hide the truth...

More exposes on their shenanigans forthcoming to be sure along with those other usual suspects.

Indeed, I imagine Micheal Cohen will have lots to say on 6 Feb...looking forward to hearing about Putin's free $10 million penthouse...

The deep state needs to be purged.

Don't worry, Mueller's working on it. He'll get it done - just ask John Gotti...

By the way, care to answer my question at 4:28 above?

Mueller being Republican....

Yes, so there is no problem. The only people who have a problem with that are Trump and his Russian bosses.

Half of Mueller's team

What exactly is the process of this?

Just a reminder, whatever side you learn to, the Guardian is a liberal UK newspaper. It has its faults, sure, but it's not a right wing publication

Thank you. I should have disclosed that in my immitation.

Hey Mueller even Tony Podesta for prosecution or did you conveniently forget that?

Not that anything will ever be done about it.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/31/17637426/robert-mueller-ukraine-lobbyists-tony-podesta-vin-weber-greg-craig

Half of Mueller's team will be sacked and replaced by Republicans. So you'll have 50% of the team partisan Democrat and 50% of the team staunch Republican prosecutors or judges. See the beauty of it?

Depoliticized.

Nope. It's hyper-politicized by your logic.

As for Mueller being Republican, - in name only,

How is this determined? His voting record? Whether he blindly follows Trump?

if I may add, well, it's time he reports to the real Administration, and certainly not to a Rosenstein. More exposes on their shenanigans forthcoming to be sure along with those other usual suspects.

I've heard this multiple times in the past two years. If there were anything on these people, we'd have heard about it by now.

The deep state needs to be purged.

You cannot purge something that does not exist. Let's stay out of conservative conspiracy theoryland, please.

We did hear about it. We heard they were all given immunity for their assistance in prosecuting....absolutely.no one.

strange how everyone on Trump side must actually help mueller prosecute others, yet don’t get immunity.

We heard they were all given immunity for their assistance in prosecuting

To a limited extent only. They committed too many crimes to get total immunity. Serial killers don't get off for assisting the prosecution. They may avoid the death penalty, but that's it and they will never see the light of day again. So Manafort might get 20 years instead of 50, for example. He's still going away.

Thank you. I should have disclosed that in my immitation.

Of course, soz, long day.

We did hear about it. We heard they were all given immunity for their assistance in prosecuting....absolutely.no one.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/trump-org-cfo-allen-weisselberg-given-immunity-prosecutors-testify-n903566

strange how everyone on Trump side must actually help mueller prosecute others, yet don’t get immunity.

Dang straight - it's not like they lied when they were brought in under oath and asked about their Russian contacts...

strange how everyone on Trump side must actually help mueller prosecute others, yet don’t get immunity.

The way this is worded they sound like real suckers. If I had a chance to help prosecutors and knew it would help me 0% I would not lift a finger. The way it's worded is that these Trump staff are really stupid, or have the world's worst lawyers.

Miyam: Start looking at all sides in this whole Russia thing. Was the dossier false? Was the FISA court lied to? Who paid whom? Was the Hillary campaign in collusion with Russians? Did the Obama admin weaponize intel agencies against political opponents? Who are the deep state, those unelected usurpers of power?

Yet Trump says there’s no need to stop the investigation. As one Trump fan said, let him do his corrupt investigation, issue his silly report, and move on.

Too bad for Manafort. And Flynn. And Page. And Papadopoulos. And Stone. And Cohen.

No reason to stop it.

Agreed, SuperLib. Won't end now.

There's still the flip side - Fusion GPS, Hillary's campaign. And Comey. And Clapton. And Brenner. And Susan Rice. And FBI corruption at the top. May go all the way to the Top.

Busy, busy, busy, this new apolitical AG. Mueller too, though he doesn't know it yet.

There's still the flip side - Fusion GPS, Hillary's campaign. And Comey. And Clapton. And Brenner. And Susan Rice. And FBI corruption at the top. May go all the way to the Top.

Yeah but the FBI is corrupt so any action they might take against any of these people would be the biggest political witch hunt in the history of the US, or however it goes, and a future Dem would have the absolute right to pardon them.

Or I guess we have the corrupt section of the FBI that investigates Trump and the clean section of the FBI that investigates Clinton? Who knows. It seems the FBI switches back and forth between corrupt and honest at the whim of Trump fans.

Too bad for Manafort. And Flynn. And Page. And Papadopoulos. And Stone. And Cohen.

all of whom were held responsible for their own actions unrelated to Trump. Except Stone and Page who actually had nothing st all happen to them. Papa spent a weekend in jail and Flynn will get no jail time. So basically 2/3 of people you mentioned got nothing or next to nothing.

Bogus charges don't result in guilty pleas or verdicts. Try again

Exactly, Mueller has pretty much nothing, so you are definitely right on that.

.

Exactly, Mueller has pretty much nothing

With Trump or with anybody? We know Trump has been corrupted with the pee tapes when he was in Russia with the hookers.

Or I guess we have the corrupt section of the FBI that investigates Trump and the clean section of the FBI that investigates Clinton? Who knows. It seems the FBI switches back and forth between corrupt and honest at the whim of Trump fans.

Yeah, pretty much.

Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andy McCabe, Strzok, Comey, Clapper and Brennen

The most interesting thing besides these idiots as was stated in the IG report is their deep, deep hatred for this President, Bingo!

Exactly, Mueller has pretty much nothing, so you are definitely right on that.

Hope and fear...

Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andy McCabe, Strzok, Comey, Clapper and Brennen

Someone wants to change the subject from the "Russian Bear in the Room"...

Why do Trump's two sons and VPs say the Trump Organization gets all its funding from Russia and Daddy/CEO says; "No investments", "No deals" from Russia?

Explain this Trumpers. Why the silence?

Hope and fear...

Trump? But why?

Someone wants to change the subject from the "Russian Bear in the Room"...

Why do Trump's two sons and VPs say the Trump Organization gets all its funding from Russia and Daddy/CEO says; "No investments", "No deals" from Russia? 

Explain this Trumpers. Why the silence?

No silence, what do you think going to happen, they’ll get 30 years in Pelican Bay? ROFL!

You guys really need to calm down with this, both of them are not going to have to wear prison Orange and even if they were indicted, so their father pardons them and then?

We know Trump has been corrupted with the pee tapes when he was in Russia with the hookers.

Yeah, we still be waitin' for those pee tapes, lol.

both of them are not going to have to wear prison Orange and even if they were indicted, so their father pardons them and then?

Are you talking about on the Federal or State level? You know those local prosecutors can be quite nasty.

their father pardons them and then?

What if the State of NY indicts Donald Jr for being a Russian agent? Again, state and NOT federal

Bass:. and even if they were indicted, so their father pardons them and then?

Ah, is that why Trump doesn't stop the investigation? He lets the witch hunt continue, watches his son get convicted, then pardons him?

Wouldn't it be easier to end the witch hunt before his son is convicted? Just spitballing here.

Bass:. Never said that

Awesome. So we agree that the IG cleared them of any improper actions with the investigation. This is true despite their white hot hated of Trump with the intensity of a million suns.

Strzok hated Trump, but it didn't impact his job performance. Done.

Nishikat: What if the State of NY indicts Donald Jr 

OMG that would be hilarious. Trump goes around saying there's no need to end the witch hunt and his son gets indicted on state crimes.

That would have to be the biggest "oopsie" in the history of leaders.

indicted on state crimes.

It is a fact that state prosecutors can use evidence from Mueller. That would be a career arrest. The only thing that Trump could do to fix this would be to become a dictator. But Trump Jr. (for example) didn't kill anyone. He might just get probation.

Ah, is that why Trump doesn't stop the investigation? He lets the witch hunt continue, watches his son get convicted, then pardons him?

Stop listening to Lemon and Mika for just once, there is No reason why the President would intervene now at this late stage. Funny, liberals worry more about Trump firing Mueller than the out of control Southern border....you just can’t make this stuff up.

Awesome. So we agree that the IG cleared them of any improper actions with the investigation.

They’re collecting unemployment...that’s about it....

This is true despite their white hot hated of Trump with the intensity of a million suns.

Strzok hated Trump, but it didn't impact his job performance. Done.

It did, he got bounced by his own department. Lol

Imagine if Trump had an attorney general the last 2 years.

OMG that would be hilarious. Trump goes around saying there's no need to end the witch hunt and his son gets indicted on state crimes.

Remember Eliot Spitzer? I wouldn't be too cocky about NY AG's.

There are lots of criminals running around in NY, starting with high corruption in City Hall.

Donald Jr. isn't a criminal, far from it, and is only hated because of his father soundly beating Clinton.

Seems like NYC has a lot of corrupt officials

But me guess.....no need to stop them?

All logic seems to point to Trunp not being able to stop it. Who lets a corrupt investigation continue while his buddies are going to jail and his son is being investigated?

Someone who can't stop it.

Bass:. They’re collecting unemployment...that’s about it....

You're free to bring up any unrelated side point that you'd like, as long as we both agree that the IG cleared them of any improper behavior with the investigation.

all of whom were held responsible for their own actions unrelated to Trump. Except Stone and Page who actually had nothing st all happen to them. Papa spent a weekend in jail and Flynn will get no jail time. So basically 2/3 of people you mentioned got nothing or next to nothing.

Felony convictions are not "nothing."

Stop listening to Lemon and Mika for just once, there is No reason why the President would intervene now at this late stage. Funny, liberals worry more about Trump firing Mueller than the out of control Southern border....you just can’t make this stuff up.

The inevitable deflection.

They’re collecting unemployment...that’s about it....

But they didn't let their personal bias interfere in the investigation.

Hope and fear...

Trump? But why?

Nope, you...

Someone wants to change the subject from the "Russian Bear in the Room"...

Why do Trump's two sons and VPs say the Trump Organization gets all its funding from Russia and Daddy/CEO says; "No investments", "No deals" from Russia? 

Explain this Trumpers. Why the silence?

No silence, what do you think going to happen, they’ll get 30 years in Pelican Bay? ROFL!

And...the non-answer.  Come on Trumpers, why so weak - its just a simple question - answer it...

You guys really need to calm down with this, both of them are not going to have to wear prison Orange and even if they were indicted, so their father pardons them and then?

Why do the Trump sons say they get all their money from Russia and Donald says he has no investments and deals in Russia?

It's been asked at least six times and no Trumper can answer it.  Simple question, stop ignoring it....

Someone who can't stop it.

There’s no need at this point to stop anything, too bad for Dems.

Nope, you...

No reason to be....

Why do the Trump sons say they get all their money from Russia and Donald says he has no investments and deals in Russia?

It's been asked at least six times and no Trumper can answer it. Simple question, stop ignoring it....

I don’t think the Democrats can answer it, but they can make stuff up which is their strongest forte

Why do the Trump sons say they get all their money from Russia and Donald says he has no investments and deals in Russia?

It's been asked at least six times and no Trumper can answer it. Simple question, stop ignoring it....

I don’t think the Democrats can answer it, but they can make stuff up which is their strongest forte

What?  I've asked you and all the other Trumpers here seven times...once again;

Why do the Trump sons say they get all their money from Russia and Donald says he has no investments and deals in Russia?

Once measly question and Trumpers go blank...why's it so hard?  Grow a spine.  Just answer it...

bass: There’s no need at this point to stop anything

Then off to jail they go! Until the state crimes kick in, then they will be back in court.

I don’t think the Democrats can answer it, but they can make stuff up which is their strongest forte

The question was directed at Trump supporters, which you are, and not democrats. Any particular reason you're deflecting? Maybe bevausevyou hsve no substantive answer.

Barr has said that he will allow the Mueller probe to go on until it is finished, but he refuses to say that he will allow the results of the Mueller probe to be released.

He dodged EVERY question, unable to give a single CLEAR answer. So those Americans who watched on TV know exactly what sort of person he is. Start digging into his past, Democrats!