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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.Trump's ex-fixer Cohen to give new Russia details to Congress
By Nathan Layne, Ginger Gibson and Mark Hosenball WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
78 Comments
PTownsend
Trump’s ‘lies, racism and cheating’ matter not to his followers The only defense they have is ‘someone else is bad, too.’
It’s pathetic that anyone would take Sarah Sanders at her word. And only the most devout trump followers believe anything he says. Fortunately they remain a minority.
CrazyJoe
Perhaps a person in need of a "fixer" shouldn't have been elected president in the first place?
Laguna
That the GOP seems prepared to go all Tom Hagen on Cohen is the utmost of irony. Here's Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-obviously) tweet:
But this is a predictable result of becoming involved with Trump and his ilk. There is a reason why so many cabinet positions remain unfilled.
Jimizo
Why was a man like this so close to Trump for so long?
The sheer number of dodgy characters and liars surrounding Trump is astounding.
runner3
Trumps going to jail with the rest of his friends
zurcronium
We are finally at the end game now for Trump and his criminal family. He will make a deal and exit the WH just like Nixon did when he was proven to be a lying criminal. Republicans are 100% to blame for this cancer on the Presidency. The entire party is corrupt to the core and should be disbanded after Trump leaves in disgrace.
cleo
'I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, 'so I can't take more.'
'You mean you can't take less,' said the Hatter: 'it's very easy to take more than nothing.'
The feeling that we have all fallen down the rabbit-hole gets stronger day by day.
Blacklabel
Nope. Cohen going to jail for lying and actual crimes. Dems just hoping to get a couple CNN worthy sound bites from him.
Jimizo
Why did Trump employ a man like this for so long and why are there so many dodgy characters and liars surrounding Trump?
I’m sorry to labour the point but I just don’t get this.
Blacklabel
It’s irrelevant really as one person is not responsible for the actions of another unless it can be proven they directed those actions.
A comvicted liar saying anything means little. And no he wasn’t threatened on Twitter. He wants to tell the “truth” about everyone but himself? Gaetz is giving him a good place to start if he suddenly wants to start being truthful.
lincolnman
Expect this testimony to read like the typical mob rat that turns state's evidence - corruption, intimidation, crimes, you name it - Cohen did it all at the direction of his "Don"...
We'll get all the filthy tales of life in Trump World...
I'm really interested to hear about that Trump Tower penthouse for Putin - especilly after Donnie said;
1. July 26, 2016: "I mean, I have nothing to do with Russia. I don't have any jobs in Russia. I'm all over the world but we're not involved in Russia,"
2. July 26, 2016: "For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia," Trump tweets.
3. Oct. 6, 2016: During the second presidential debate, Hillary Clinton says Russia is trying to help elect Trump, "maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow." Trump calls this assessment "so ridiculous," adding, "I know nothing about Russia ... I don't deal there."
4. Oct. 24, 2016: "I have nothing to do with Russia folks, I'll give you a written statement," Trump says at a campaign rally.
5. Jan. 11, 2017: Trump tells reporters that he has "no deals that could happen in Russia because we've stayed away," adding that he could "make deals in Russia very easily" but "I just don't want to because I think that would be a conflict."
Blacklabel
So where can I inquire about purchasing a condo at Trump Tower Moscow? Oh right.....it doesn’t exist! (Except in liberals imagination)
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
As Lincolnman has already pointed out. Donald lied about his involvement in Russia. He publicly claimed to have no business Russia while actively trying pursuing deals in Russia.
Let's say Trump is completely clean, not a corrupt bone in his body; why wouldn't the government of Russia be in prime position to blackmail Trump? They know his public statements don't match his private actions.
1glenn
So Trump lied, about everything? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
Toasted Heretic
The truth will out.
Sanders is coming across like a sycophantic latter-day Goebbels. How does she sleep at night?
Meanwhile, the racist, pathological, sex pest has got his bone spurs polished up and fled for a quick holiday/deflection in 'Nam. Purely co-incidental timing, natch.
Laguna
Anyway, Rep. Matt Gaetz is in potential trouble. Law states that “Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to…influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding… shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.” This includes congressional testimony.
It appears that Trump may have snared another victim.
SuperLib
This is going to be fun. We get to see all the dirty tricks of Trump, a proven fraudster and known liar. Let's get all of the details. I want to watch his fans follow him right into the toxic sewer and cheer his name.
I like this one better:
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
'You must be,' said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'
Seems more appropriate for the Trump White House.
Jimizo
So you think Trump is a bad judge of character, just too trusting of people or just too dim to see through the stunning number of dodgy characters and liars surrounding him?
It doesn’t seem to fit with the honest, stable genius who thrashes people at 4D chess, does it?
lincolnman
In denial much? Maybe you'd like to read about it from your favorite source...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/behind-cohen-plea-trumps-longtime-dream-of-a-moscow-tower
Whatsnext
This guy is just trying to get an easier sentence.
So much hate from the comment section as always, but it doesn't matter half of you don't vote and the other half can't even vote.
Toasted Heretic
Whether one believes the narrative from Sanders, Trump and the cabal of liars and diverters of justice or whether one doesn't. There are some very explosive revelations to be aired (although not entirely surprising to anyone who's watched the Trump admin unravel) and discussed.
How far Trump supporters want to go with this is entirely up to them. Cohen has already been intimidated on Twitter by Republican Matt Gaetz.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/26/gop-rep-tweets-at-michael-cohen-does-your-wife-know-about-your-girlfriends.html
This is a defining moment for the future of truth and justice in the USA.
ClippetyClop
Does that mean yours is shot too? This man should be a treasure trove of Trump treachery. You should prepare further defensive positions. I suggest, "Proves nothing", followed by the inevitable, "So what?".
Serrano
Cohen to give new Russia details to Congress
So what? He has zero credibility.
lincolnman
Can you beleive this sitting Repub Congressman? I mean, hasn't he heard of the porn star and Playboy Bunny - and the fact that each old wife was cheated on with the next new wife? Did he miss "I just grab 'em by the _____"?
Let alone Witness Tampering?
This is what the GOP has become - a crime mob - just like their President....
bass4funk
Black, I couldn’t agree more.
8T
This is all spin. Nobody (including Democrats) could care a less about this guy. An admitted Liar! Just a distraction while Trumps administration quietly gets things done.
Wolfpack
Didn't he get in trouble already for lying to Congress? He is already going to jail soon so I don't know what possible benefit could come from him lying to them again. Still no collusion. I guess if this helps the Dems make it through another day and medicate for their TDS, I suppose it's no harm done if he were to lie to the Dems again. I can see Maxine now begging her colleagues for impeachment. It's sad really....
bass4funk
Cohen will say whatever he needs to say and I get it, he has kids, so he’s going to do whatever he can to not get a long sentence. He shouldn’t expect Trump to pardon him, so he needs to do something. The Democrats will make a huge uproar as they always do, expect Blumenthal and Spliff to gasp and ask for more inquiries...yawn.... and the rest, everyone will forget soon....
cleo
We have great people. We have the most loyal people. We have the smartest people. You know, so many of my people, they’re so smart. ..... let me tell you, we have the smartest people. We have the people that are the smartest, and the strongest, and the best and the hardest working. We have the smartest people.
Pity he employed a liar instead of one of those great people.
Makes one wonder about his ability to read character.
Blacklabel
This is one of these things again where the speculation about what he will say drives the narrative.
Same as the Comey testimony when he actually said the opposite of the speculation. Cohen cant say much as an attorney and all. And he cant talk about the ongoing Russia investigation so....
Reminder:
" If attorney/client privilege is violated, any such information will not generally be allowed to be used in a
lawsuit or criminal case against the client."
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
There's that word:
If I pay my lawyer to go rob a bank for me, do you think that falls under attorney client privilege? Of course not.
If I have my lawyer arrange to pay off a lawyer I've slept with whilst running for public office, do you think that falls under attorney client privilege? Of course not.
Now, I am also wondering what other criminal activity Cohen aided Trump in.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Porn star*
bass4funk
He was always seen as a shady person and now we know why.
We May never know, Cohen’s credibility is pretty much Nonexistent.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Good on you for admitting the president isn't clean. A couple of things here:
1) Trump's reputation isn't any better. Remember when he denied know anything about making payments to stormy Daniels? We know now that wasn't true.
2) I am sure and congress is well aware of Cohen's reputation. Fortunately, though, there are documents. And it wouldn't be a stretch to assume Cohen can back up his assertions with documents.
Laguna
Ha ha! This is the new Trumpian talking point. What it masks is that Trump lackeys must risk their reputations and/or freedom to maintain their freedom, while meanwhile, their erstwhile boss remains free.
We'll see how long Trump can keep this up.
Toasted Heretic
Isn't it ironic to see Trump apologists show concern for lies?
bass4funk
I said, we don’t know, I never said the President was dirty. Relax.
But its its not a crime, has nothing to do with Russia and this was all done before he was President which he had every right to make whatever could embarrass him go away.
Next?
Probably, but that won’t satiate the Democrats hatred to do whatever they can to march Trump out of office.
The thing with that is, if he had something that was explosive enough to bring the president down, 1) he doesn’t want to go to prison and 2) he’s going to say whatever he has to and 3) since he already has established himself twice as a liar, who can verify and prove that he wouldn’t be lying again? We would have known, Mueller would have jumped on this, so here we go again with another this is it! Starting to sound like a Huey Lewis song. Lol
Deadforgood
None of the Trump people on here understand how the law works and its not surprising to see them pretend like its all gonna be ok.
Should be fun to see Trumps twitter wall littered with comments about how much he thinks cohen is a "rat" (refers to someone who sells out someone who carried out illegal activities to the feds). I'm not sure how he plans to fight both the enormous amount of lawsuits aimed at his wall and a fight for his own presidency at the same time. Trump, the clock is ticking. Have fun in Vietnam, these may very well be your last travels as POTUS.
bass4funk
I ask that same question about the Democrats as well, believe me.
Toasted Heretic
Yes, every day and every post.
Serrano
All CNN is talking about is Michael Cohen. They’re even counting down the minute till his testimony. They’re putting their last hopes on his testimony since they pretty much know Mueller’s report is a dud.
Toasted Heretic
Keep convincing yourself that.
Seeing as we might never see the full report, it's interesting that you know that CNN know that it's a dud.
Deadforgood
I'm astounded by how many Trump supporters can see the future. Why is Cohen the only thing FOX news can talk about today as well? They have a countdown TOO! LOL
FOX NEWS, THE MICHAEL COHEN HEARING. TOMORROW 10am ET
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lol except it is a crime, Bass. Cohen pleaded guilty to making excessive campaign violations. Individual 1 is in fact the president. Whoever told you its not criminal to hide campaign contributions does not know what they are talking about.
Even if it isn't a crime. It proves he lied, just like I said.
The documents, Bass. The documents. If the documents back up his story, it doesn't matter if he lied before. Let the docs do the talking.
Trumpies are setting themselves to look foolish here.
Deadforgood
You are so right, Trump's base has proven to be the most unpatriotic lot of them all.
Deadforgood
I'm mostly curious about the documents he tends to present. He claims they irrefutably paint Trump as a racist, conman, and cheat. Should be fun, not that we don't already know that. But some nice juicy evidence should put a pretty huge hole in his already sinking ship.
Deadforgood
We're not just talking about collusion...do some research, it will take you 2 minutes. Again, making yourself and your party look foolish.
Are you hacking peoples computers? How do you know we are foaming at the mouth? This kind of name calling only hurts your argument, desperation.
bass4funk
Sorry, it’s not an impeachable offense, thank God.
A lie is a lie.
I never said that, but unlike the smartest people on JT, if Mueller would have thought that would be the golden cow, we would have known, since this President has been in office, keeping anything negative towards him a secret is virtually impossible.
Ok, and?
Strangerland
No, CNN isn’t pretending to know the investigation internals.
bass4funk
Towards the sneaky Democrats, yes.
Deadforgood
Not really, who knows what he talks to Putin about. And where are his taxes? Just to name a few.
Deadforgood
Pretty sure the only person being sneaky, is Trump and his entire campaign team. What are the dems being "sneaky" about? Everything has been pretty transparent.
plasticmonkey
Get it straight. Cohen lied (past tense) because he thought he could get away with it. He didn’t. He got caught. Because of something called corroborating evidence against his lies.
You really think he’s going to try that trick again? People tell the truth more when they’re fresh out of friends. Lawyers who go after the mob know this. Now that Donny cannot and will not protect his old fixer, Cohen has no reason to lie.
Trump must be wishing he never ran for president.
Blacklabel
Liberals actually thinking Cohen going to show up with documents that no one has ever seen before.
Prepare for disappointment.
Ah_so
Something he shares in common with all other Trump associates.
plasticmonkey
= lying is OK if you can get away with it
bass4funk
Actually, Democrats beat them on the sneakiness for about 150 years.
Too bad for him that he’s now compromised.
To save his skin, considering the prison he’s going to? Yes, I do, I would.
That’s not necessarily true at all.
Yes and lawyers also know that some mafia guys won’t rat out, anyway, this has nothing to do with the mob, no one was killed or butchered, relax.
More like Cohen is thinking, hope these Democrats buy my story, I need to see my kids.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
That was never my claim. My claim was Trump lied. That is fact. He ordered Cohen to conceal payment of illegal campaign contributions. Also a fact.
And for what's its worth, it very well may be an impeachable offense. That is whatever congress decides.
And Trump lied as well. About the same things. Both crooks. Not my opinion, that is what the indictments say. See individual 1.
Lol that is exactly what you said. Bass Today 03:30 pm JS
And you tried claiming is liar. Well sure he is, but so is true. If Cohen has documentation why should anyone believe a known liar like Trump?
lincolnman
Welcome to the elementary school playground...
Compromised - as in an asset for a foreign government, as in Agent Orange...
He saw the stupid trick Manafort tried by lying twice, and got his plea deal annulled. Cohen will speak the truth, backed with evidence...
How do you know? Donnie has rubbed shoulders with the mob in NY for decades in his real estate business. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he's involved in some bump offs...
We all wish the "Idiot" had never ran for President - except his Master Putin...
plasticmonkey
I think I've mentioned this before, but comparing one man to 150 years of an entire political party is pretty unfair, wouldn't you say?
Well, I guess you don't have a firm grasp of either legal precedent or human psychology.
Not necessarily. Especially when it's convenient to your "case".
Most of these guys fold under pressure. That's a fact. You holding out hope that Cohen won't rat?
Who said anything about killing or "butchering"? There are plenty of other crimes that big powerful fellers with fake tans and Russian mob connections commit that are prosecutable. And insulting to the office of the presidency.
Laguna
Good point, Black. What Cohen will testify about is already common knowledge. Two factors are crucial, though:
ーThe previous House did their best to bury them. Trump lives in a different world now.
ーCohen is prohibited from discussing aspects of Mueller's investigation. The sword of Damocles hangs over Trump's head, and he knows it.
bass4funk
Ok, so what’s your point?
Lol! If the report recommends impeachment the GOP will never let it happen, as long as the tide rolls in and the sun rises, it won’t happen, so then what?
The. It would be his word over Trump’s and I have a feeling Cohen will get the short end of the stick on that one.
lincolnman
Doesn't recognize facts...definitely a Trumper....
And all Repubs will vote to repeal Obamacare, and Kavanaugh and Roberts will always vote with the conservative justices - because the world is black and white...
Someone has forgotten the Access Hollywood tape - bring 'em all out Mikey....
SuperLib
Except for the part where the kept the entire investigation into Trump a secret before the election.
bass4funk
The mandate is.....lol
That was the torpedo that was supposed to sink his ship and like everything else, never happened. Dog will hunt.
lincolnman
OK, And?
You're calling Trump a dog? Well, I agree 100%. I agree with Ann too - he's an idiot, lazy incompetent, a wimp -and a dog. Have any other names you'd like to call Trump?
Sure took a lot of work by Putin to convince a bunch of easily bamboozled Americans to vote for such scum.
SuperLib
Cant wait to get a glimpse of Trump's criminal empire.
Serrano
Bring on the tapes!
There are more tapes? If there are, something tells me they will be duds as well.
Jimizo
Did anyone ever find that sex tape Trump tweeted about?
Cohen the compulsive liar versus Trump the compulsive liar.
Check anything these two say carefully and particularly on the subject of tapes.
Jimizo
Both are serial liars and need to be fact checked.
This is surely the stance of a non-partisan.
bass4funk
So the whole thing Ann said about Democrats is spot on. I think so.
Uh-huh...yawn....
Pretty much, especially on something hollow as this garbage.
The only people that are desperate would be Spliff, Blumenthal and the hopes that maybe, maybe this time something will hopefully stick to this guy, nothing else has, rub that rabbits foot.
Chop Chop
Cohen was a loser and habitual liar.
SuperLib
He's already been sentenced. His testimony can't reverse that.
SuperLib
As is Trump. One small difference was that Cohen lied to protect Trump. Trump lies because he can't stop himself.
gcbel
Well. I watched a good deal of it. Didn’t learn about Trump, a liar, a cheat, a con man... yawn nothing new.
Th thing was the charade. Every single person there, and every poster on this board, if they’re being honest, knows Trump is a liar, cheat, con man.
Cohen was credible. The Republicans went through the faux outrage charade. Every time the spoke about Cohen being a liar you couldn’t but think of the guy he used to work for... laughable.
We’ll see where this all goes...
Toasted Heretic
He comes across as credible. The Republican grand inquisition seems to be fixated on book deals, for some reason.