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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2018.Trump calls Kavanaugh allegations 'scary time' for men falsely accused
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katsu78
Why should anyone believe the man who bragged about committing sexual assault on the campaign trail knows anything whatsoever about what it's like to be falsely accused of rape?
PTownsend
‘doesn’t think you should lie to Congress’. That’s rich coming from the most dishonest politician in modern US history.
Note the source below:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-trump-administration-is-lying-to-congress-about-yemen/
How much money has Trump had his army of lawyers and accountants pay porn stars, prostitutes and others because of their claims against Trump?
katsu78
It's actually really easy. Just don't rape anyone. Just don't commit sexual assault. Just don't sexually harass anyone. Loads of us guys do it every day. Join us!
Chip Star
Where's your proof? Just because it's not happening to everyone, doesn't mean it's not happening to everyone!
katsu78
Here is some statistical background, for people who have been sold FUD mislabeled as facts:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/08/the_enliven_project_s_false_rape_accusations_infographic_great_intentions.html
PTownsend
In a previous post you wrote you and your mates used to 'do worse things than Kavanaugh back in high school'. Are you speaking for them?
If so, maybe you would find it impossible to interact with women.
Chip Star
There you go, using people's words as evidence they said something. Everyone knows that's the worst type of evidence. So liiiiiiibbbbbberaaaaaal.
Toasted Heretic
Not a scary time for women, all throughout history?
Nothing so drastic. Just don't rape/assault/pester women. Even if you've come from an environment that jokes about or encourages it - men should know it's wrong.
CrazyJoe
So they are mad that Kavanaugh was accused, and generalizing this to all men?
Why? All men haven't molested girls or women. Most of us are pretty decent. Kavanaugh appears to have misbehaved, and worse, has failed to own up to it. He is using his anger to rally other angry white guys to his side. Grow up gentlemen.
Wolfpack
I keep reading this lie from the Left. He bragged that women let him touch them - except he states that women “let him” - that is consensual. This may surprise the naive or feminists but there are plenty of women who let rich and famous men have their way with them. It is just reality. There are a lot of Anna Nicole Smith type people out there. Don’t tell me you are surprised at what some people will do for money and/or notoriety.
Chip Star
It's such a lie pushed by the liberal MSM. You can read where Trump talks about consent:
*Trump**: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.*
We all know that when someone unexpectedly kisses us, we aren't shocked into inaction. This happens all the time to us conservatives.
Amen. We all know if some people do X, all people do X. It's a mathematical law. It totally disproves that Trump is a sexual predator.
bass4funk
No, but if someone accuses you of it in the out of control liberal “metoo” age, the allegations can destroy your life.
Most, yes, but that won’t stop women now making up frivolous lawsuits and allegations.
But you don’t know that.
What? So Kavanaugh is making a secret call to all White males to discredit and attack all White females in order to get all White males on his side? Wouldn’t that considered to be racist? Somewhat? Uhh.....ok....
Strangerland
Except when it's not. Do you really thing any woman anywhere is going to be ok with this? No. Of course some will, but the failure in your logic is that he wouldn't know if they were going to let him, until after he already did it (by his own description - you just walk up and grab them by the ___). So if he really was speaking the truth, then it's pretty much a guarantee that there was some sexual assault there, because it's also guaranteed that not every woman is going to be ok with it.
Chip Star
Exactly! The libs have created a situation where victims of sexual assault feel they can't speak out. The metoo movement is exactly why 2/3 of sexual assaults go unreported.
No kidding. Women should just stop pointing fingers. So many women make up accusations, which is why the vast majority of sexual assaults go unreported.
But us conservatives do know that Kavanaugh is clean. That's why we were against the investigation and why we continue to disparage Dr. Ford.
Libs and there conspiracy theories, I'm telling you. Unlike how we havee solid evidence of the Deep State and corruption/bias at the FBI, the libs have nothing.
Definitely not by the definition of those libs Merriam and Webster. Har! ROFL. Oh my . . .
goldorak
Is Trump saying that he no longer trusts the us justice system? Sounds like it.
Strangerland
Trump is a moron - nothing has changed. People are still innocent until proven guilty - this is a legal term and refers to legal guilt and legal innocence. The court of public opinion is the same as it has always been - nothing has changed.
Chip Star
WASHINGTON ― Two former law school classmates of Brett Kavanaugh’s who previously vouched for him wrote to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday to say they are withdrawing their support for him because of “the nature” of his recent testimony.
“Under the current circumstances, we fear that partisanship has injected itself into Judge Kavanaugh’s candidacy,” Michael J. Proctor and Mark Osler say in a letter to Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the committee’s chairman and ranking member, respectively. “That, and the lack of judicial temperament displayed on September 27 hearing, cause us to withdraw our support.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-brett-kavanaugh-apos-former-224435051.html
More lib propaganda!
Madverts
It's fitting karma that it will be American women that finish Trump off.
Roll on November.
Toasted Heretic
Astounding. He's openly mocking a victim of sexual assault. And the crowd love it.
Think about that for a moment.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/02/trump-mocks-christine-blasey-ford-at-mississippi-rally
Serrano
This FBI investigation will turn up the same as the other 6! If it doesn't what does it say about the first 6?
I doubt if the FBI will say they blew it. This is a complete waste of time just like all the Democrats in congress. The Democrats in congress are an embarrassment to America. Who in their right mind would let any of those door knobs make decisions on anything.
There is nothing to investigate with Kavanaugh.....but they have a lot to look at with Blasey Ford.
Inconsistencies, lies, her qualification, her mental history, her associations (CIA, Strzok, DNC, lawyers, her employers), her funding etc etc.
Open THAT up and we'd see a whole different situation.
Don't even get me started with #2 and #3.
Kavanaugh will be confirmed, and the Dems will see the biggest red tsunami they've ever seen.
Chip Star
This is just more lib media BS! There is no proof that Trump was mocking Dr. Ford; he was simply repeating her testimony. There's nothing to mock about Kavanaugh's performance, it speaks for itself.
Strangerland
Well, if we apply the Hillary standard, it says that Kavanaugh is a guilty drunken rapist.
Madverts
Don't forget WW3 and Pizzagate.
Trump Cultists are insane.
katsu78
If someone actually goes through all the steps needed to accuse you, you probably did it, and you deserve to have your life ruined. False rape accusations are exceedingly rare.
You have no evidence this actually happens to any significant degree.
Serrano
"Astounding. He's openly mocking a victim of sexual assault."
That wasn't mocking Dr Ford. It was a summary argument, factually defining Dr Ford's testimony.
There's no proof Ford's a victim of sexual assault. Even if she is, there's no evidence it was Kavanaugh other than she claims she's sure of this, even as she can't remember much of anything else.
Serrano
"We all know he’s guiltier than you guys ever pretended Hillary was"
Guilty, because of unsubstantiated claims, and otherwise zero evidence of any kind of misconduct? Jeez...
Stranger - check this out - it's got 2.6 million views in 5 days. The producer of the video may be onto something...
Body Language: Brett Kavanaugh Hearing Christine Blasey Ford
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGxr1VQ2dPI
Blacklabel
Ford lied about the polygraph, lied about the second door construction, lied about fear of flying and likely wrote the letter with her FBI friend.
I was at a party myself in the early 80s and someone left a “floater” in the toilet after not flushing. Think it was Kavanaugh or that Mark Judge Guy.
Wolfpack
Of course that isn’t what I said or even insinuated. You are arguing with yourself Chip. You seem to do that a lot for some reason. Not enough strawmen around to ho after it would seem.
Hillary, Pelosi, Gillibrand and many others say you should believe women. Yet they still don’t believe Juanita Broderick when she told her truth and accused President Clinton of rape. They don’t believe the dozen or so other women either. Yeah - so Liberal!
Again - consensual. Thanks for the quote undermine your own argument Chip.
bass4funk
Ok, so in that case and if we go by the argument you are making Emitt Till was justifiably torturted and murdered for allegedly whistling at a White Woman, Clinton was never charged in the rape of Juanita Broderick? Does he deserve to have his life ruined? How about Keith Ellison’s wife who in fact has a police statement as well as photos of what he did to her. Should Corey Booker serve in the US Senate for admitting he groped a woman.
Good, so we should insist on having the FBI investigate these people without a doubt.
bass4funk
It does look that way ore and more, her best friend gave her up. The Dems plans and lies are falling apart at the seams once again
smithinjapan
Burning Bush: "Impossible to interact with women this days without being susceptible to one accusation or another,"
When you have something to worry about, yes. The people who need to voice such concerns, Trump a leader among them, are those who are gropers, would be gropers, or assaulters in general. Those of us who obey the laws and would never think of assaulting others aren't worried or scared at all.
Blacklabel: "Ford lied about the polygraph, lied about the second door construction, lied about fear of flying and likely wrote the letter with her FBI friend."
All off-topic questions in an attempt to badger the woman put on the podium, whereas Kavanaugh has lied about sexual harassment, lied about what the sexual bragging and sex terms he engaged in with his buddies, and lied about things RELEVANT to assault. Funny how much you guys are desperate to justify perjury.
And as Trump, one of the leaders in misogyny and assault, calls this a "scary time" for a few men, it doesn't dawn on him at all, of course, that it's been a scary time for ALL women for much of human existence because of men like him, and men who defend him and people like Kavanaugh.
bass4funk
How would you know that for a doubt?
Once again, how would you know that for sure. I don't care how the left feel emotionally about Kavanaugh, totally irrelevant, but I want to know how would you know for sure and how can it be verified? What do you know that No one else knows as to what happened 36 years ago?
How do you know Ford didn't perjure herself. You think because He's a man, older and White, he has to be guilty? Funny 6 FBI background checks, had the codes to the nukes at one point, had one of the highest security clearance levels of anyone besides the President, has some of the highest honors a judge can receive and now just a few days before his confirmation hearing we hear about these allegations and No one knew about it? Give me a break!
Chip Star
Sure, like when libs argue with the conservatives in their heads instead of the real conservatives:
There are a lot of women who let ruch guys molested them, so what Trump said on audio isn't describing sexual assault. Sure sounds like: We all know if some people do X, all people do X. It's a mathematical law.
Exactly. Libs always obfuscate by bringing up Clinton. Clinton's actions demonstrate that certain posters didn't say they acted like Kavanaugh when that poster was in high school. Yeah - so conservative!
Absolutely. We conservatives know there is one reason only that someone lets you continue to do something so beyond the bounds of normal conduct it is outrageous: consent. It has nothing to do with shock or surprise. Libs and their weak sauce arguments they have with themselves. Smh.
Strangerland
We don't need to know for sure - no one is trying to take away his freedom. We only need to know if there is enough doubt about him that he shoudn't be given the prize.
Chip Star
It couldn't be the way we know Kavanaugh is innocent, because it's totally different! Kavanaugh is a conservative, we don't need corroborating evidence and we don't pay attention to contradictory evidence against Kav because it's just propaganda pushed by the sleazy Dems and liberal MSM.
Totally. We conservatives know that whistling has always been considered a form of sexual assault. Lewd libs think otherwise.
Couldn't agree more. It's not like when Ford hasn't given conflicting testimony:
In a sworn statement in 1997 with the placeholder name "Jane Doe #5", Broaddrick filed an affidavit with Paula Jones' lawyers stating there were unfounded rumors and stories circulating "that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies... These allegations are untrue".
Amen. You can see all this evidence for yourself at this link: www . . .
Right?! It's not as if Booker admitted to it in an article criticizing rape culture and showed contrition. Libs, low down libs and their double standards. Smh.
Chip Star
Every federal judge has a turn with the nuke codes.
bass4funk
And that’s why the left will never retake the Senate or get Trump out of office. Please liberals, hold on to your accusations, it’s better for us.
Toasted Heretic
The left have never had the Senate. Liberals are not "left". They are centerist, at best.
The current mantra for apologists for sexual predators. Please let us get on with molesting women; it's better if you keep your mouths shut. And if you don't, I'm sure a drinking buddy can help out with that.
Toasted Heretic
Odd, I'd swear the same poster was baiting others for bringing race into the discussion only the other day.
Regarding Kavanaugh. He's already lied under oath.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/brett-kavanaugh-lied-brazenly-repeatedly-under-oath-any-law-student-ncna916031
He's displayed incredible partisanship
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45673702
Aside from the sexual misdemeanours, he's proved himself to be unfit for office.
lincolnman
I did - it actually terrifies me - every one of these rallies where Trump the demagogue does his demonizing and the crowd cheers him on - the parallels to Germany in the late 1930's are striking...
History repeats itself when we don't learn its lessons...
Toasted Heretic
Aye. Back then in 30s Germany, those on the left were demonised, attacked on the streets by the Freikorps and ultimately ended up in camps. The so-called globalists were blamed for the country's ills, post-Versailles, and men were encouraged to be brutal, macho and of course, superior to women.
It's not far-fetched to see Trump and Kavanaugh as a symptom of the greater malaise at heart in (not just) the USA.
Are we doomed to repeat an endless cycle? Rhetorical, btw. I think I know the answer.
Serrano
"Aside from the sexual misdemeanours, he's proved himself to be unfit for office."
Um, there's zero evidence that he committed sexual assault except for some pretty dodgy and unsubstantiated accusations. And he's unfit because he got a little emotional when defending himself against these accusations? Feinstein got real testy when only asked if she leaked the letter... how was her demeanor? Is she unfit as well?
Serrano
0 evidence
0 assaults
7 investigations
Double 0 7
Kavanaugh is going to be the James Bond of Supreme Court Justices.
bass4funk
And the Dems even more so.
And with Kavanaugh as well. Yeah, nice try for the Dems to pick and choose what they feel constitutes as a sex crime.
The left in a nutshell
theFritzX
Her sexpolits at high school and beyond have indeed been covered up.
Wolfpack
Tell that to Columbia University student Paul. Nungesser who was famously accused of sexual assault by fellow student Emma Sulkowicz (aka Mattress Girl). Nungesser was slandered as a sexual predator and hounded by activist students and faculty on campus all because Sulkowicz sought revenge for being scorned by Nungesser.
Who was there to support the false allegations? Well none other than Senator Gillibrand. She did not wait for the facts to come out to make up her mind about his guilt. Which of course sounds a lot like Dems now about Kavanaugh. These same Dems supported Bill Clinton after multiple credible accusations of rape, sexual assault and harassment. They also supported Bill’s chief enabler for president just two years ago.
What happened to Nungesser is happening on college campuses all over the country. Alleged victims fail to validate and pursue criminal cases with local law enforcement authorities going instead to campus kangaroo courts where they know that due process does not exist for the accused.
Same thing happened to the three men on the Duke Lacrosse team. These privileged, prep school educated party boys were found guilty by the local and national media, politicians, and civil rights groups immediately. A large number of Dukes faculty and administration came out against them before the accusers case was investigated.
Yes, all men are subject to a rush to judgement by a false claim in a political environment in which women are to be believed without question and men are guilty without due process.
Chip Star
Do you know why 2/3 of sexual assaults go unreported in the US? Have a Google and enlighten yourself.
Chip Star
Totally. We conservatives don't need corroborating evidence, but lame libs do.
How did you go from Kavanaugh to Ellison, back to Kavanaugh. That's like a dog chasing its tail. ROFL!
katsu78
You quote dishonestly. You left out the sentence after the bit you quoted, "False rape accusations are exceedingly rare."
So we're talking about false rape accusations. Not false whistling accusations. Do you not know the difference?
This issue has been studied extensively. Your fear-mongering is just as unfounded and ridiculous as when you were claiming hordes of undocumented immigrants voted for Hillary.
They certainly shouldn't be given lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court! But oh yeah, no one is actually calling for that in the first place. Only your creepy predator buddy Kavanaugh is being offered a lifetime gig of prestigious work after a lifetime of assault.
Disgusting how the moderators are trying to censor anti-sexual assault comments.
Serrano
This Saturday is going to be a blast. The Democrats are going to chimp out. Get the popcorn boys.
bass4funk
And even when they do, the left would discount it.
Exactly, the left are running around like dogs chasing a stuffed toy.
I do, but I don't think the left does.
And the same goes on the flip mode.
According to the FBI he's not and that tactic just might have cost the Democrats a lot in the midterms, they have been foiled once again.