Trump to pull U.S. out of U.N. arms treaty, heeding NRA

*Trump told members of the gun lobby that he intends to revoke the status of the United States as a signatory of the Arms Trade Treaty, *which was never ratified by the U.S. Senate.

That means it was a meaningless gesture to rile up the gun nutters.

MAGMA/KAGEL 2020!

Trump's appealing to some of his staunchest supporters, those in the guns and ammo businesses plus the guns and ammo buyers keeping the industry rich and their lobbyists powerful.

Has anyone seen Trump's 'financial info' to see if he owns shares in guns and ammo corporations? So many of Trump's decisions seem to benefit industries, e.g. big oil and big war, he's long reported to have investments in. But I guess that's to be expected from a corrupt politician who's also a corrupt businessman.

Trump banned "bump stocks"

Great move! However, has there been any enforcement of the ban? Several JT posters had previously claimed to own bump stocks. Have you turned yours in like your president wanted?

Several JT posters had previously claimed to own bump stocks. Have you turned yours in like your president wanted?

This should be fun.

"We're taking our signature back," Trump said to thousands of cheering attendees, many wearing red hats emblazoned with the Republican president's "Make America Great Again" slogan.

Oh, definitely support this! Wish I was there.

Trump's appealing to some of his staunchest supporters, those in the guns and ammo businesses plus the guns and ammo buyers keeping the industry rich and their lobbyists powerful. 

Smart move.

Has anyone seen Trump's 'financial info' to see if he owns shares in guns and ammo corporations?

Here we go....

So many of Trump's decisions seem to benefit industries, e.g. big oil and big war, he's long reported to have investments in. But I guess that's to be expected from a corrupt politician who's also a corrupt businessman.

You are probably right, the Democrats would do everything to appeal to their base, their unions, their social groups, you need to, Trump would be an idiot NOT to appease his supporters, stock holders, corporations etc. The Democrats would do they exact same thing, so good on Trump.

The United States will now lock arms with Iran, North Korea and Syria as non-signatories to this historic treaty whose sole purpose is to protect innocent people from deadly weapons

How cute, you're joining your new besties.

And the national embarrassment continues - one after the other...

What a loser...

It’s hard to know which US politician is really Satan. Maybe there is more than one Satan?

Heritage Foundation, said the treaty "can only have the perverse effects of driving potential importers to buy from China or Russia"

In other words, it's all about protecting American gun manufacturers. Their profits are more important than protecting the lives of innocents. Business over human rights. MAGA!

And for all you NRA fans out there, remember that the NRA cares less about your rights, 2nd Amendment or otherwise, than it does about the arms industry, which is literally making a killing.

Oh, definitely support this!

Why? Because you support human rights abuses overseas or because you hate Barack Obama?

The US continues its march toward Rogue Nation status.

What do you mean? The US has been a rogue nation for decades, and it only ever bothers some Americans sometimes, depending entirely on whether they like who is in office.

It's the politics of power, and power on the scale the US has is always abused. If people would get it together and try to stop the madness, it might help. It doesn't seem to matter who is sitting in the White House. They just keep the "liberals" and the "conservatives" barking at each other while the people in charge chart a course for disaster.

Like all populist presidents and prime ministers he’s wrong on these issues. They will also be a short term glitch in history which in Europe are starting to rectify.

Hmmmm....don’t know about other countries, but not in the US.

Trump once again putting the US and world further in danger for personal profit.

This wasn't a treaty as far as the US was concerned. The US Senate hadn't ratified it, so it was meaningless.

Nothing has changed from today vs last month or 10 yrs ago, related to this unratified agreement.

Great. So we're out of a treaty we never ratified. Another Trump "accomplishment" as defined by "undoing the work of others while producing nothing on my own."

”statements about "democracy" and "values"

democracy means the majority can bully the minority, and values means how much another country will pay for US weapons.

The US has been a rogue nation for decades

What does that make China?

Trump's accomplishments;

See how many of our allies and friends he can alienate...

See how low he can bow to Putin...

And his supporters close their eyes to it all.

How can they call themselves Americans?

Since the 2013 signing I haven't seen or heard of any change in rogue/terror run groups. How has it helped?

Trump also withdrew from a nuclear arms treaty with Russia

He should, we have to abide by all nuclear arms treaty and Russia doesn’t? That’s the absolute stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. If the US did so unilaterally first, I would agree with you, but Russia is giving it the finger, so the US should as well.

without any mention of trying to meet the Russians and negotiate the problems.

He doesn’t have to. He’s the President.

Just a blanket withdrawal. Need the art of the deal not no deal.

That was his deal, No deal

No deal s never a deal!

Which in itself what he did a deal.

Which in itself what he did a deal.

I guess the same kind of deal as "I'll pay a porn star $150K to keep quiet about our fling"....

He's not very good at that kind of deal either...

Ever since the establishment of the UN, the US has tried to use it as a tool, an instrument, to further the economic, political and military domination of the globe and any UN resolution that has not advanced US domination has been ignored/vetoed by the US. A similar situation exists with the International Court. The US has referred and had prosecuted many individuals for war crimes yet, the US does not recognise the jurisdiction of the court over the US or its citizens. Both these organisation have been broken by the US, hence, are of no real value. Bothe these organisations cost billions of dollars to sustain and are only used by the US to further their global dictatorship.

plasticmonkey - And for all you NRA fans out there, remember that the NRA cares less about your rights 2nd Amendment or otherwise, than it does about the arms industry, which is literally making a killing.

I doubt any NRA fans are going to be swayed by your post, or by the usual Democrat Party propaganda. Especially those who are familiar with the NRA's decades long history of actually supporting the 2nd Amendment, and the constitutional right to bear arms. People, individuals, have a unalienable right to defend themselves. Many Democrats, on the other hand, have a very long history of trying to ban firearms, and imprison firearm owners for owning firearms.

The U.N. believes that only it's member states that have a right to bear arms. That only the current governments have a right to bear arms. That individual citizens who disagree with their current government should not be allowed to overthrow their U.N. member government.

zichi - The National Rifle Association was plunged into deeper internal turmoil Friday amid an effort by opponents of top executive Wayne LA Pierre to drive out the man who has long been the public face of the gun-rights group.

North kicked off being the NRA president.

Oliver North, and an accounting firm, were being investigated for misusing NRA funds. Therefor, they made an attempt to force Wayne LaPierre to resign under the threat of releasing slanderous misinformation intended to destroy LaPierre's reputation. LaPierre refused to resign, and took the matter to the membership. As a result, the only top executive who opposed La Pierre's tenure, Olly North, has been ousted.

I doubt any NRA fans are going to be swayed by your post, or by the usual Democrat Party propaganda. Especially those who are familiar with the NRA's decades long history of actually supporting the 2nd Amendment, and the constitutional right to bear arms. People, individuals, have a unalienable right to defend themselves. Many Democrats, on the other hand, have a very long history of trying to ban firearms, and imprison firearm owners for owning firearms.

The vast majority of NRA members support common-sense gun control - its the far right crazies in the leadership that want every nut and would be terrorist to be able to buy and assault weapon.

They're nuts...

Any withdrawal from a UN treaty is a good thing.

zichi - The NRA lost $500 million last year with 30% membership and contributions across the board and is on the verge of bankruptcy morally and financially

LOL. Where did you find this information?

lincolnman - The vast majority of NRA members support common-sense gun control - its the far right crazies in the leadership that want every nut and would be terrorist to be able to buy and assault weapon.

They're nuts...

Are you suggesting that their opinion of which laws should govern the citizens of the U.S. is different than yours? It might prove difficult to convince them to change their opinions by resorting to name-calling.

Everyone knows that common-sense gun control means being able to repeatedly hit the center of the target. The Democrat Party's idea of gun control is to ban firearms, and leave Americans unable to defend themselves from the violent behavior of others. The U.N. believes that it's member states/governments, and only it's member states/governments, should be able to arm themselves with firearms.

I've never cursed about a human being more than this disgusting excuse for a "president".

Remember when the NRA used to only be about sportsman shooting and hunting while trying to properly show people how to responsibly use firearms? That was over 20 years ago...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/opinions/how-the-nra-went-crazy-campbell/index.html

And now they're politicized, gun lobbying for the manufacturers, and even influenced by foreign nationals that don't have the US' societies best interest at heart. And getting worse day by day.

When the Democrats began their latest push to ban firearms, the NRA became more political. If the NRA, and it's millions of members, hadn't become involved in politics, 100 million+ firearm owners might not have the option of owning firearms for self-defense, sportsman shooting, or hunting. The Democrats didn't expect a fight, but they certainly found one.

NRA membership is less than 5 million, only a small number of the gun owners.

But still a powerful, important and significant organization.

The NRA will a secret the actual numbers but the NRA magazine which goes out to all has a circulation of 3.7 million. That probably reflects a truer membership figure.

Which is a lot.

Less than 30% of Americans own guns. No one in my family has never owned one.

I don’t buy that, if that were true, so many people would have them illegally, everyone in my family owns guns and the number of unregistered guns exceeds the numbers of the registered guns.

zichi - NRA membership is less than 5 million, only a small number of the gun owners. The NRA will a secret the actual numbers but the NRA magazine which goes out to all has a circulation of 3.7 million. That probably reflects a truer membership figure.

Less than 30% of Americans own guns. No one in my family has never owned one.

Which anti-2nd/anti-self defense group did you get your numbers from? FYI - there are several NRA magazines available. The NRA doesn't share it's membership numbers with anyone, let alone some anti-2nd groups of zealots. "Probably reflects a truer membership figure" means that someone is probably guessing as to the actual number. After the Democrats began their quest to ban firearms, many firearm owners refused to tell pollster whether they owned firearms, or not. Something about it being none of the pollsters gosh darn business. While people claim that only 30%, or 33%, or 35% of Americans admit to owning firearms, a household with 4 adults would be considered to have 1 firearm owner, and 3 non-firearm owners, in spite of the fact that all 4 adults would have access to the same firearms for self-defense, hunting, target shooting, etc.. And it's probably a good idea that some families have never owned firearms.

zichi - 60% of Americans would support stricter gun laws

You need to define "stricter gun laws". Americans have currently been discussing gun laws since 1968. The end result is that all states currently have some sort of law allowing it's residents to carry firearms. The voters have spoken, regardless of what some biased pollsters, anti-2nd zealots, Democrats, and their pet media outlets are claiming.

The U.N. only believes that its member state's governments should be allowed to own, and control, firearms. A private citizen's self-defense concerns are not the U.N.s problem. Private citizens can beg their governments for a right to keep, and bear, arms.