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Trump weighs sending 'unlimited supply' of immigrants to sanctuary cities

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By Richard Cowan

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday he was considering sending illegal immigrants in the country to so-called sanctuary cities, prompting U.S. mayors to accept such an offer as the battle over border security raged.

Frustrated by rising numbers of undocumented immigrants arriving at the southern border and a failure to get Congress to fully fund a U.S.-Mexico border wall, Trump taunted Democrats by dangling the possibility of an influx of illegal immigrants into their communities.

"Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only," Trump wrote on Twitter.

Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney responded in a statement: "While the Trump administration's proposal shows their disdain to basic human dignity, the City (Philadelphia) would be prepared to welcome these immigrants just as we have embraced our immigrant communities for decades."

In February, a federal appeals court said the Trump administration could not terminate federal grants to Philadelphia for its refusal to cooperate with immigration agents seeking to deport immigrants.

In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said in a statement "We would welcome these migrants with open arms, just as we welcomed Syrian refugees, just as we welcomed Puerto Ricans displaced by Hurricane Maria and just as we welcome Rohingya refugees fleeing genocide in Myanmar."

Sanctuary cities are local jurisdictions that generally give undocumented immigrants safe harbor by refusing to use their resources to help enforce federal immigration laws that could lead to deportations.

Those localities argue that it is not their responsibility to get involved in federal enforcement and that doing so could hinder policing efforts within communities.

The Washington Post first reported on Thursday that the White House has been considering a plan for transporting immigrants in detention and releasing them into sanctuary cities that are Democratic strongholds.

The newspaper reported there was resistance from some high-level Department of Homeland Security officials concerned about several aspects of such a plan, including the potential costs.

Nevertheless, Trump, speaking to reporters at the White House on Friday, said of sanctuary cities, "We can give them an unlimited supply" of immigrants.

White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said these would be "illegal aliens that are already set for release," which likely would include families with children.

House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi's hometown of San Francisco is another sanctuary city.

In remarks to reporters on Friday, Pelosi, a Democrat, said she was not aware of the newspaper report. But she added, "it's just another notion that is unworthy of the presidency of the United States and disrespectful of the challenges that we face, as a country, as a people, to address who we are, a nation of immigrants."

Pelosi was in Leesburg, Virginia, where House Democrats were wrapping up a three-day retreat.

One immigration expert, who asked not to be identified, noted that undocumented immigrants in federal custody could be at one of several stages of the adjudication process and that Trump likely has the power to have them sent to different jurisdictions from where they are being held.

But the source added, "This is a stunt. It doesn't enhance the efficiency of the process."

Trump's challenge to Democrats came one day after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican like Trump, told reporters that he wanted to launch bipartisan negotiations to seek solutions to the nation's immigration woes.

In March alone, 103,492 undocumented immigrants have been taken into custody along the southern border or turned away. Many of them are from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala and are seeking asylum in the United States away from high levels of violent crime and illegal drugs at home.

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Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only," Trump wrote on Twitter.

This is going to backfire on Trump. These sanctuary cities are by far, liberal leaning their politics, and these illegal immigrants will find a new home there!

Trump put his big-arsed foot in his mouth on his immigration policies, and now he cant just snap his fingers and hope it all goes away. He thought, in my opinion, that what ever he said would automatically become reality, and now that it isnt, he just keeps talking bs!

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LOL, President Trump is savage. Those progressive havens will go further bankrupt clothing, housing, and dealing with the increased crime.

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This is going to backfire on Trump. These sanctuary cities are by far, liberal leaning their politics, and these illegal immigrants will find a new home there!

That’s good. They can find new homes and stay in a States with sanctuary cities that will gladly welcome and take them in.

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LOL, President Trump is savage. Those progressive havens will go further bankrupt clothing, housing, and dealing with the increased crime.

> That’s good. They can find new homes and stay in a States with sanctuary cities that will gladly welcome and take them in.

Conservstive "logic" at work there.

Thank you for admitting that there is not a real immigration problem. If you honestly thought there were an immigration problem, you would be absolutely against placing undocumented immigrants anywhere inside the US.

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Trump and ilk once again trying to further fracture the nation using divide and rule tactics, an age old method used by despots throughout history. And those from his demographic who want to maintain their false sense of superiority cheer him on. Disgusting.

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Thank you for admitting that there is not a real immigration problem.

Yes and we don’t have healthcare problem either...

If you honestly thought there were an immigration problem, you would be absolutely against placing undocumented immigrants anywhere inside the US.

No, when you look at the numbers of ICE and CBP....oh, I forgot, Democrats don’t talk to these people, it undercuts their open border stance, oops!

They should be allowed to come in and settle them in States where people want them and their political leaders constantly champion for illegal rights. I think that is a grand and kind gesture from the President and his administration.

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This is going to be interesting.

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Trump and ilk once again trying to further fracture the nation using divide and rule tactics

Wait - Dems are encouraging illegal immigration and refusing to do anything to discourage human trafficking and Trump is dividing the nation? Illegal immigration - is illegal. What laws can American citizens break without consequence? Well, besides hate crime hoaxes.

If Dems create sanctuary cities to draw those whose first act upon coming to America is to break the law then it seems perfectly reasonable to send these law breakers to the cities that support their criminal activity and are willing to fund it.

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Shouldn't a good president always love and want what's best for every American and every part of his/her country?

However, Trump demonstrates and exerts anger and a desire to punish certain parts and people of it to satisfy his blind rage to get even and punish as well as to excite his base, which delights, cheers on and fuels his own childish vindictiveness.

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Another empty threat.

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Wait - Dems are encouraging illegal immigration

Not in reality.

and refusing to do anything to discourage human trafficking

Not in reality.

and Trump is dividing the nation?

Yes, in reality.

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How can people be simultaneously against undocumented immigration and pro-government spending to physically place undocumented immigrants inside the US?

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Vindictive and unbalanced.

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President Trump needs to go back to 5th grade civics class and learn about laws. While he can tell the military what to do overseas, inside the USA, his powers are pretty limited.

While I do like this idea - let the people who want 80% of the failed asylum seekers live in cities were their representatives don't want to solve the illegal immigration problem, but without massive shifting of all the immigration infrastructure - courts, judges, holding areas to those cities, it just isn't possible.

Of course, punishment for those who think differently is what President Trump wants. That is how most 7 yr old boys think. By now, we should expect this and be thankful the courts, and finally his advisors, are clearly saying no to this man-child.

I'm tired of Trump.

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What a disgusting human being.

As a response, Sanctuary cities, which represents much of the US economical power, are strongly thinking of keeping all the taxes they generate for themselves.

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@burninghbu This is going to be interesting.

Perhaps for 'those' who want more opportunities to add more fuel to further heat long burning fires, but not to people who want serious attempts to have issues resolved. Trump's ongoing efforts to weaken the US must be pleasing to Russia, China, North Korea and also pleasing to the Qanon, Breitbart sorts who want to continue to undermine US systems.

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Trump just keeps proving to everyone how stupid and unbalanced he is. How much longer will Repubs in the Senate stand by and watch the Republican party reduced to a joke.

it seems perfectly reasonable to send these law breakers to the cities that support their criminal activity and are willing to fund it.

Absolutely - OK, all the Trumpers get in line with Trump and you're on the first Aeroflot flight to Moscow...

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Dems are encouraging illegal immigration and refusing to do anything to discourage human trafficking 

Trump is the most dishonest politician in modern American history and has attracted like-minded followers.

Trump is dividing the nation?

Trump continues to divide the nation and has attracted like-minded followers. In Trump's defense, by dividing the nation and continuing to undermine the foundations it was built on he's at least being consistent in following through with what he's said he wanted to do all along. Which is also what his supporters have said all along. On that score he's been more effective than getting Mexico to pay for his wall. Among so many other failures.

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Saw an interesting stat the other day connecting immigration with population and economic growth showing strong correlation exists between areas welcoming immigrants and economic vitality. It's a chicken-egg question: do immigrants choose these places due to their vitality, or is their vitality due to immigrants? The answer is probably both.

Those locations tend to be in Democratic-leading areas, whereas locations with limited migration shrinking in real term tend Republican. Good luck with your strategy, Donald.

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I've read the same thing, Laguna, especially in the rural areas where they younger population is moving out. Immigrants arrive, usually start businesses, and help the community replace what they are losing.

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In Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said in a statement "We would welcome these migrants with open arms, ...

Mr. Mayor, your city is already falling apart. Tax payers have not only been leaving your city, but the state for years. Perhaps you want to flesh out neighborhoods again, but the cost will be enormous.

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I see no issue with sending illegals to the cities that choose to welcome and protect them.

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A very, very great idea. Force our politicians to own their talking point that there is "no crisis at the Southern border" by depositing any and all unscreened illegal invaders pouring into our nation on their cities doorsteps/front yards/back yards and sidewalks. I'm positive their constituents will welcome their new neighbors unconditionally and with open arms.

Also, end all federal funding because sanctuary cities violate federal law.

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California should say “OK, we will take them”. “Oh, by the way, we are are leaving the United States and forming an independent country.” The new migrants could be trained, educated and the country of California could become a major trading partner for the USA. Trade taffifs on the USA, foreign property tax and an entry visa charge could finance the transition to a new country and provide funds for education, training and assimilation.

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How can people be simultaneously against undocumented immigration

Shutting down the border and reestablishing the rule of law and order along the border would give Trump a win.

and pro-government spending to physically place undocumented immigrants inside the US?

Luckily, there’s more and more of a crackdown on hiring illegal aliens. Slowly, but surely and methodically.

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Trump is the most dishonest politician in modern American history and has attracted like-minded followers. 

As if he were the first, but putting him up over any of these misguided Democrats, I most definitely take his word over there’s.

Trump continues to divide the nation and has attracted like-minded followers. In Trump's defense, by dividing the nation and continuing to undermine the foundations it was built on he's at least being consistent in following through with what he's said he wanted to do all along. Which is also what his supporters have said all along. On that score he's been more effective than getting Mexico to pay for his wall. Among so many other failures.

What a bunch of manure! Trump is a disrupter, but the Democrats are even more so dividing the nation with their unwillingness to wanting a wall, they are for open borders, always have been and the American people are not stupid, with each passing day they see how unhinged these Democrats and their failed policies....(what policies) are. I personally think it’s a great idea, California New York or sanctuary states, they want immigrants to come and live with them, then they should be as they claim what they are a tolerance and a nation that excepts all immigrants, then they should do so and they ship move and re-organize them and allow them to live in all the areas where all the rich people live, I guarantee you that will never happen because they don’t want it I would never allow it. Democrats are just talk and absolutely nothing to show for it. Either they care for these people or they don’t, if they care for these people then their state representatives should allow them to stay and live in this you get them all the benefits they want and leave the rest of us alone that you want secure borders in debt do you want proper and legal immigration. Oh, there chances of getting the WH keeps diminishing. ROFL! Keep it up, Nancy and AOC, y’all doing a fantastic job.

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Mar-a-Lago Club needs workers!

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Isn't this exactly why sanctuary cities became sanctuary cities? Sanctuary cities have all made it very clear that they welcome all illegal aliens. Here's their big chance to prove it.

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Trumps hotels have all made it very clear that they welcome all illegal aliens..They have already proved it....

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Trump is a disrupter,

Trump is a disruption. His promise to drain the Washington swamp is another promise never delivered on.

One of the highest WH staff turnovers. More than 20 major staffers to date. Down to just one woman. All gone from his first year.

The president says something then the WH says different?

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Nancy Pelosi has called illegal invaders entering our country unchecked "a gift of love". What President Trump, by proposing this change in immigration policy, is "reaching across the aisle" by giving the democrats what they want; a never ending flow of illegals into democrat controlled sanctuary cities (SF, Oakland, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, etc, etc., etc.). This is a brilliant move by our President.

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2014-2018 Congress was controlled by the republicans but did nothing about the border?

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*Texas

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2014-2018 Congress was controlled by the republicans but did nothing about the border?

Correct. That tells us that republicans are weak on border security and the current outrage and fear is purely manufactured.

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And yet, they’ve done nothing to stop the flow over the last 8 years and and even now. They won’t even sit down with ICE or CBP or even come to the hearings to get the stats and hear their pleas.

How do you explain the congress was controlled by the republicans 2014-2017?

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Trump is a disruption.

Even better!!

His promise to drain the Washington swamp is another promise never delivered on.

It appears to be harder dislodging Obama holdovers then the WH thought.

One of the highest WH staff turnovers. More than 20 major staffers to date. Down to just one woman. All gone from his first year.

So what, you should have watched the Apprentice, people were being bumped off every week.

The president says something then the WH says different.

And the liberal msm says again something entirely different from the WH, Yeah, Acosta, I’m talking about you.

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This is a brilliant move by our President.

OK. So I guess we don't need a wall anymore.

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How do you explain the congress was controlled by the republicans 2014-2017?

How do you explain Democrats that time not wanting to stop catch and release, stop the visa lottery program, stop chain migration, stop anchor babies? If the Democrats were stopping every single one the Republicans would have been on board.

Nancy Pelosi has called illegal invaders entering our country unchecked "a gift of love". What President Trump, by proposing this change in immigration policy, is "reaching across the aisle" by giving the democrats what they want; a never ending flow of illegals into democrat controlled sanctuary cities (SF, Oakland, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia, etc, etc., etc.). This is a brilliant move by our President.

Someone gets it, spot on.

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OK. So I guess we don't need a wall anymore.

That’s like saying, if you have a dog, do you still need a door? Lol

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Healthcare? Has nothing to with the topic of illegals or Sanctuary cities, stay with me Chip.

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Congress was controlled by the republicans 2014-2018

but no action on border control or healthcare

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It appears to be harder dislodging Obama holdovers then the WH thought.

The so called Trump Washington Swamp is what’s outside of the WH.

The Apprentice was a TV reality show, guess that’s how you view Trump and WH

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Congress was controlled by the republicans 2014-2018

As I said, the Democrats that time not wanting to stop catch and release, stop the visa lottery program, stop chain migration, stop anchor babies? If the Democrats were stopping every single one the Republicans would have been on board.

The so called Trump Washington Swamp is what’s outside of the WH.

Thank God, so now what are we going to do about the WH in-house establishment that have been infected with radical crooks for years.

The Apprentice was a TV reality show, guess that’s how you view Trump and WH.

No, I view it as him cutting through the mustard an No BS.

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That tells us that republicans are weak on border security and the current outrage and fear is purely manufactured.

They’re clearly for open borders and unrestrained immigration. They just pretend they aren’t.

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Brilliant move on Trumps behalf, Liberals love preaching diversity but in reality they act the opposite.

Tucker Carson has some brilliant points on this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XJPwmX3jo

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@Andrew - I am liberal and probably would disagree with you on many issues but I did watch Carlson's discussion on this topic and he did made some very good points.

I am originally from California and this is probably where I depart from my liberal friends and I am usually accused of being "right wing" in spite of my other views. I am very much pro immigration but I am of the belief it should be done legally and follow a process.

I am also guessing Trump did not have good intentions when he did this. I would agree with Strangerland although I take this further and I believe BOTH parties are for open borders.

@SuperLib and Laguna; I agree immigrants can stimulate economies and bring energy into society but I would like to ask if you differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. It seems there is no longer any differentiation made.

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A very, very great idea. Force our politicians to own their talking point that there is "no crisis at the Southern border" by depositing any and all unscreened illegal invaders pouring into our nation on their cities doorsteps/front yards/back yards and sidewalks. I'm positive their constituents will welcome their new neighbors unconditionally and with open arms.

OK, let me see if I can understand this - Trump said "Mexico is not sending their best people; they’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Of the caravans, Trump said this in Oct: President Trump had claimed there are “some very bad people” in the caravan; "Go into the middle of the caravans, take your cameras ... you're going to find MS-13," 

So Trump, rather than meet his obligation to keep our country safe, is going to send these, in his words, drug cartel members and racists to major US states and cities.

If he does this, as our Chief Executive responsible for our security, believing these people are in fact criminals, then he is derelict in his duties and should be impeached.

One of the highest WH staff turnovers. More than 20 major staffers to date. Down to just one woman. All gone from his first year.

So what, you should have watched the Apprentice, people were being bumped off every week.

To use a phrase overused by one poster here; "BINGO!" The Trumper mindset boiled down to one sentence - being President of the most powerful nation on earth is no more difficult and requires no more expertise than hosting a reality TV show.

God help us....

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@Lincolnman

I am not a Trumper (I despise him in fact). I think what he is doing is wrong and these people should simply be deported back to the country of origin.

On the other hand the reaction of some of the politicians in favor of sanctuary cities (which I am not in favor of) is rather interesting to watch as well.

NO ONE has the backs of the American people.

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I am not a Trumper (I despise him in fact). I think what he is doing is wrong and these people should simply be deported back to the country of origin.

On the other hand the reaction of some of the politicians in favor of sanctuary cities (which I am not in favor of) is rather interesting to watch as well.

NO ONE has the backs of the American people.

I understand - I am not a supporter of sanctuary cities, but I can understand why some favor them.

As you can see by Trump's words, and those of his supporters, they are using the demagogue's old tactic of generalizing and demonizing a group of people. Contrary to Trump's oversimplification, immigrants come in many varieties; most Americans, except the far right white supremacists, support and encourage legal immigration - it's who we are as a nation. Those immigrants who try to enter the country illegally, should be turned back to their country of origin and told to apply through legal channels. But then you have those seeking asylum fleeing with their families from corrupt, failed states where merely walking down the street can get you killed. Where basic services have failed - no food/water, no police, nothing... Those people should not be demonized - they should be treated with compassion. Whether they should be granted entry to the US should be determined as our laws stipulate - through court proceedings.

But the rhetoric you hear from Trump and his supporters is hardly that - "invasion", "MS-13", "terrorists"...

It brings out our worst instincts and deep seated prejudices. That a President of the US would use these tactics merely for his own political gain is a disgrace.

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They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116

Of the caravans, Trump said this in Oct: President Trump had claimed there are “some very bad people” in the caravan; "Go into the middle of the caravans, take your cameras ... you're going to find MS-13," 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexico-deports-ms-13-gang-members-found-in-caravan-near-texas-border

"We have data that there are agitators inside the shelter, that there are members of the caravan who are provoking others, some of them belong to the Mara Salvatrucha , some others who bring criminal records in their country and what we have been doing is deporting them directly with Migration," Riquelme told local reporters, according to an English language translation.

So Trump, rather than meet his obligation to keep our country safe,

Which he is trying to do and the Democrats won’t let him....

is going to send these, in his words, drug cartel members and racists to major US states and cities.

Let’s be specific, he said SANCTUARY CITIES and why not? The liberals and Democrats were boasting how they love everyone and thinks everyone should be allowed in and we shouldn’t have any borders, so propose we give in to their wishes, take in as many illegals as we can and relocate them to live in the communities where liberals live that are advocating for this. Seems fair to me.

If he does this, as our Chief Executive responsible for our security, believing these people are in fact criminals, then he is derelict in his duties and should be impeached.

Not really, the Democrats will be responsible, they wanted open borders, they need to deal with it and the ramifications that come with being negligent and careless.

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They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116

Of the caravans, Trump said this in Oct: President Trump had claimed there are “some very bad people” in the caravan; "Go into the middle of the caravans, take your cameras ... you're going to find MS-13," 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexico-deports-ms-13-gang-members-found-in-caravan-near-texas-border

"We have data that there are agitators inside the shelter, that there are members of the caravan who are provoking others, some of them belong to the Mara Salvatrucha , some others who bring criminal records in their country and what we have been doing is deporting them directly with Migration," Riquelme told local reporters, according to an English language translation.

Thank you for providing further evidence that Trump and his supporters engage in baseless demonization. It's the dictator and demagogue's favorite tactic.

So Trump, rather than meet his obligation to keep our country safe,

Which he is trying to do and the Democrats won’t let him....

And who was President and had both houses of Congress from 2016 to 2017?

is going to send these, in his words, drug cartel members and racists to major US states and cities.

Let’s be specific, he said SANCTUARY CITIES and why not? The liberals and Democrats were boasting how they love everyone and thinks everyone should be allowed in and we shouldn’t have any borders, so propose we give in to their wishes, take in as many illegals as we can and relocate them to live in the communities where liberals live that are advocating for this. Seems fair to me.

If he truly believes what he says about these people, and yet moves them to these areas, he's derelict in his duty to the nation (well, derelict again) - and that is grounds for impeachment. Bring on the articles...

If he does this, as our Chief Executive responsible for our security, believing these people are in fact criminals, then he is derelict in his duties and should be impeached.

Not really, the Democrats will be responsible, they wanted open borders, they need to deal with it and the ramifications that come with being negligent and careless.

As Trump said of Sept 11 2001, "It happened on his watch" - he's President - he's responsible...

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California should say “OK, we will take them”. “Oh, by the way, we are are leaving the United States and forming an independent country.”

I would take that deal in a heartbeat. Please leave the Union California. All illegals in the rest of the nation could be sent there to legalize their status. All of the government spending on defense could be relocated out of the foreign state of California. Sounds like a win-win proposal. One third of the entire cost of welfare would end immediately to offset the tax revenue loss. There would be big economic repercussions but well worth it in the long run.

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I understand - I am not a supporter of sanctuary cities, but I can understand why some favor them.

I can’t and I do know why Democrats are for it. For them it’s all about gaining more votes and the best way is to bring in more illegals, promise them entitlements and then remind them who took care of them.

As you can see by Trump's words, and those of his supporters, they are using the demagogue's old tactic of generalizing and demonizing a group of people.

Actually, not even close to the truth, regardless of what liberals are trying to force feed us, we can see for ourselves what is happening along the border and we can read the reports by the CBP and ICE, we don’t need Pelosi, Schumer or any of the other Democrats trying to spin us a story.

Contrary to Trump's oversimplification, immigrants come in many varieties; most Americans, except the far right white supremacists, support and encourage legal immigration -

As do every single conservative I know except as you said, the WS.

it's who we are as a nation. Those immigrants who try to enter the country illegally, should be turned back to their country of origin and told to apply through legal channels.

Exactly, which is the foundation of this argument.

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But then you have those seeking asylum fleeing with their families from corrupt, failed states where merely walking down the street can get you killed. Where basic services have failed - no food/water, no police, nothing... Those people should not be demonized - they should be treated with compassion. 

I understand, but they need to apply and wait their turn, it’s absolutely unfair for anyone to come in at that rate and demand anything over the people that came in legally.

Whether they should be granted entry to the US should be determined as our laws stipulate - through court proceedings. 

And over 97% don’t show up for their immigration hearing, they just disappear and blend into the masses never to be seen again.

But the rhetoric you hear from Trump and his supporters is hardly that - "invasion", "MS-13", "terrorists"... 

Very true.

It brings out our worst instincts and deep seated prejudices. That a President of the US would use these tactics merely for his own political gain is a disgrace.

I’m from LA and MS-13 is a huge problem, it used to be 18th street, but they aren’t as crazy as MS-13 and that’s saying a lot.

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Trump is a chess master while the Dems are still struggling with checkers.

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Thank you for providing further evidence that Trump and his supporters engage in baseless demonization. It's the dictator and demagogue's favorite tactic. 

MS-13 should be demonized as violent as they are. Many of the drug cartels use MS-13 as enforcers, their tactics are so over the top beyond violent tactics and the thousands of people they killed in their home country of El Salvador and the US, Trump and the Republicans should demonize this group.

And who was President and had both houses of Congress from 2016 to 2017

So why weren’t the Democrats ok with eliminating Chain migration, the Visa lottery program or ending catch and release, anchor babies? Why?

If he truly believes what he says about these people, and yet moves them to these areas, he's derelict in his duty to the nation (well, derelict again) - and that is grounds for impeachment. Bring on the articles...

He won’t be impeached, come on, but No, Trump called their bluff like McConnell did with that garbage New Green Deal that no Democrat wanted to support. The Democrats talk this game and run their mouths all the time, but when it’s time for real action and to show they mean what they say, once they’re cornered they sing a different tune and now all the Democrats are expressing Trump is mean and cold-hearted and they are the ones that created the Sanctuary cities, turned the cities into slums, making people leave these out of control States, they don’t do anything about the homelessness problem that is so out of hand, they don’t do anything about people using the streets as their toilets, they seem to be ok with all of this, so then they should be equally satisfied if get more people, more illegals, have them relocate to places where all theses liberals live in the same neighborhood, let’s see how long they’ll tolerate it. The richest liberals demand we take care of these illegals, but if we moved them in their neighborhoods, they would never allow it. That is the highest level of hypocrisy that I can imagine.

As Trump said of Sept 11 2001, "It happened on his watch" - he's President - he's responsible..

And as such, the Democrats should help him with that responsibility since they say, they are for the rule of law and legal immigration, help the President, prove that you care about this situation, but they don’t, they never have and it shows and I predict Trump will have an easy slide into the second term because Democrats once again, don’t get it and never will.

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Illegal and immoral Trump banter.

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Trump is the ultimate savage. He's playing multidimensional chess while the Democrats are still trying to get hopscotch down.

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We dont want illegals allowed entry. Liberals won’t help to secure the border correctly so they can’t enter.

So it’s a basic and genius solution to send them all the the liberal run cities until a wall can be built to keep them out.

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I don't know how you pubs can justify your parties actions when they are for open borders, and refused to pass legislation to protect the border for when they held all of congress for four years. They clearly want as many illegals as they can in the country, and don't care about the lives of Americans. Trump just proved it in this article where he has clearly called for immigrants to flood America. Why do Republicans want open borders and hate immigration control?

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We dont want illegals allowed entry. Liberals won’t help to secure the border correctly so they can’t enter.

And yet, your team refused to pass legislation to protect the border for two straight terms of holding all of congress. You people clearly push open borders as your party policy, and yet you whine about the borders. Why is your team so hypocritical?

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The mayors and leaders of these "sanctuary cities" frequently talk about how welcoming the U.S. should be of "immigrants" who are in actual fact illegal entrants.

So, I don't see why they would have a problem with this suggestion by Trump.

This is yet another example of the American left-wing not wanting to practise what they preach -- and then lashing out at Trump for revealing their hypocrisy.

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Trump is a chess master while the Dems are still struggling with checkers.

Trump is a 25 watt bulb in a 100 watt world...

But the rhetoric you hear from Trump and his supporters is hardly that - "invasion", "MS-13", "terrorists"... 

Very true.

Once again, thanks - with every post we see more generalization and demonization of immigrants...

And who was President and had both houses of Congress from 2016 to 2017

So why weren’t the Democrats ok with eliminating Chain migration, the Visa lottery program or ending catch and release, anchor babies? Why?

Just bring up the fact that Trump, Ryan, and McConnell did nothing for two years on immigration and you're guaranteed to get a dodge. If it such an emergency now, why no action for two whole years? In fact, their inaction for two years is why there is an emergency now - they did nothing. The Repubs are to blame for what's occurring now. Wonder if they'll accept responsibility?

As Trump said of Sept 11 2001, "It happened on his watch" - he's President - he's responsible..

And as such, the Democrats should help him with that responsibility since they say, they are for the rule of law and legal immigration, help the President, prove that you care about this situation, but they don’t, they never have and it shows and I predict Trump will have an easy slide into the second term because Democrats once again, don’t get it and never will.

His words - Sept 11 happened on his watch so Bush is responsible. Same now.

That is the highest level of hypocrisy that I can imagine.

No way - the ultimate hypocrisy is Trump wailing against illegal immigration and demonizing immigrants all the while employing them at his properties to save on labor costs, making his supporters look like fools...

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Trump is a 25 watt bulb in a 100 watt world..

This statement has no basis in reality.

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I don't know how you pubs can justify your parties actions when they are for open borders, and refused to pass legislation to protect the border for when they held all of congress for four years.

I don’t understand why the Democrats didn’t chain migration or the visa lottery program and catch and release? But then again they wanted DACA and there was no way the GOP were going to go that route legalizing so many illegals when they refuse to join them and one best way was to end birthright citizenship, good start there.

They clearly want as many illegals as they can in the country,

If they did, Trump wouldn’t be giving the Dems heartburn over this, but then again, Trump is right, if he can get these people and put them in all of the Sanctuary cities, the .dems should be happier than a kid with an ice cream cone. But I think they should put them in the sanctuary cities, there they will be protected, it’s a win, win for them.

and don't care about the lives of Americans. Trump just proved it in this article where he has clearly called for immigrants to flood America. Why do Republicans want open borders and hate immigration control?

No, I don’t think Trump cares about the Democrats, they don’t care about Americans and in particular, they don’t care what happens along the border. So once again, these Democrats keep saying on TV they care, if so, why aren’t they doing anything about it? Why won’t they meet with ICE senior officers or CBP senior officers? Why won’t the idiot liberal news giants put them on, they keep saying we should listen to the experts, not Trump, there you go. These people are also frustrated why Dems won’t meet with them or why they won’t get booked on the major liberal network channels.

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Trump is a 25 watt bulb in a 100 watt world..

This statement has no basis in reality.

*Donald Trump, our country's greatest orator since Yosemite Sam, found himself absolutely hornswoggled today as he attempted to pronounce a simple three-syllable word multiple times. Speaking with reporters about the Mueller Report, which he has erroneously claimed completely exonerates him, Trump said that he hoped Congressional leaders turned their attention to the origins of the investigation. Oh, excuse me, to the oranges of the investigation. "I hope they now go and take a look at the oranges. The oranges of the, uh, uh, investigation,"*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=qUPsNgmXR7M

Yea, I was wrong, he's a 15 watt bulb....

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This is yet another example of the American left-wing not wanting to practise what they preach -- and then lashing out at Trump for revealing their hypocrisy.

Exactly.

Once again, thanks - with every post we see more generalization and demonization of immigrants...

You are doing to me exactly what Sen. Ted Lieu did to Candace Owens when Nadler didn’t even bother to listen to what she said and she had to scold him, good on her for telling him, he didn’t listen and got it wrong. Again, I didn’t say or demonize ANY illegal alien. For the record, I was talking about MS-13 and No, I will never give these violent thugs any respect, I had to deal with them once and these people are the worst of the worst even for Mexican Drug Cartel standards and that’s saying a lot. That’s who I’m talking about, specifically.

Just bring up the fact that Trump, Ryan, and McConnell did nothing for two years on immigration and you're guaranteed to get a dodge.

The Democrats were never serious, even when Trump tried to legalize almost 2 million DACA recipients and they still didn’t want to give him money for any wall, so why should the President give in to their demands? The DACA recipients are already here and going nowhere. They can wait.

His words - Sept 11 happened on his watch so Bush is responsible. Same now. 

But the people see it differently and the polls are showing it, more and more people are blaming the Democrats and it’s fine by me, they’ll probably lose the house again, to be expected. Democrats are the party and epitome of hypocrisy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/05/cbs_news_instant_poll_72_approve_of_trump_immigration_ideas.html

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Once again, thanks - with every post we see more generalization and demonization of immigrants...

You are doing to me exactly what Sen. Ted Lieu did to Candace Owens when Nadler didn’t even bother to listen to what she said and she had to scold him, good on her for telling him, he didn’t listen and got it wrong. Again, I didn’t say or demonize ANY illegal alien. For the record, I was talking about MS-13 and No, I will never give these violent thugs any respect, I had to deal with them once and these people are the worst of the worst even for Mexican Drug Cartel standards and that’s saying a lot. That’s who I’m talking about, specifically.

The only one doing anything to you are your own words...

Just bring up the fact that Trump, Ryan, and McConnell did nothing for two years on immigration and you're guaranteed to get a dodge.

The Democrats were never serious, even when Trump tried to legalize almost 2 million DACA recipients and they still didn’t want to give him money for any wall, so why should the President give in to their demands? The DACA recipients are already here and going nowhere. They can wait.

Well, thanks again - you just proved my comment that Trumpers always a dodge when you bring up 2 years of Repub inaction...

His words - Sept 11 happened on his watch so Bush is responsible. Same now. 

But the people see it differently and the polls are showing it, more and more people are blaming the Democrats and it’s fine by me, they’ll probably lose the house again, to be expected. Democrats are the party and epitome of hypocrisy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/05/cbs_news_instant_poll_72_approve_of_trump_immigration_ideas.html

Once again - Trump's own words : "It happened on his watch. BINGO!

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The only one doing anything to you are your own words...

Ahh, backed again. Lol

Well, thanks again - you just proved my comment that Trumpers always a dodge when you bring up 2 years of Repub inaction...

It’s not a dodge, you and like most Democrats think the GOP should give and ask for nothing in exchange or just accept what Democrats think they should give them. Yeah, uh-huh...

Once again - Trump's own words : "It happened on his watch. BINGO

With the implicit and unwilling Democrats.

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The only one doing anything to you are your own words...

Ahh, backed again. Lol

And?

Well, thanks again - you just proved my comment that Trumpers always a dodge when you bring up 2 years of Repub inaction...

It’s not a dodge, you and like most Democrats think the GOP should give and ask for nothing in exchange or just accept what Democrats think they should give them. Yeah, uh-huh...

Dodge #3...

Once again - Trump's own words : "It happened on his watch. BINGO

With the implicit and unwilling Democrats.

He didn't say that, he said: "It happened on his watch." Exactly.

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2014-2018 Congress was controlled by the republicans but did nothing about the border?

How was Trump supposed to know that Dems would be anti-border security, when they'd voted for similar laws previously. Congress can seldom get laws through a Presidential veto (cough - Obama).

There were higher priorities in the early Trump years, many which failed. Unfortunately for me and my family, repealing the ACA, which is neither affordable nor caring, happened. $2.1B in fraud, thanks to govt health care. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-indictments-and-law-enforcement-actions-one-largest-health-care-fraud-schemes Nice.

But none of these things gets the US closer to a viable solution to real immigration changes which are best for the country. Uncontrolled immigration is bad. Uncontrolled illegal immigration is terrible.

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bass: How do you explain Democrats that time not wanting to stop catch and release, stop the visa lottery program, stop chain migration, stop anchor babies? If the Democrats were stopping every single one the Republicans would have been on board.

This is not accurate.

Democrats and Republicans did come up with a bipartisan bill that gave Republicans complete control over the border, eliminated the lottery, curbed chain migration. Of course there was nothing stopping birthright citizenship because neither party supports that.

It passed the Senate and the House refused to vote because of the hardliners. They were against any path to citizenship, DACA or otherwise, so they refused to support it. The GOP had everything in their hands and walked away from it.

SANCTUARY CITIES and why not? The liberals and Democrats were boasting how they love everyone and thinks everyone should be allowed in and we shouldn’t have any borders

Sanctuary cities are simply cities that refuse to turn their police officers into immigration officers because 1) they don't want to spend the resources on something that's not their area to police and 2) they don't want people to refuse to work with law enforcement because they are afraid their immigration status will be challenged.

The "open borders" thing is something the GOP made up and now are applying their made up concept here. Same with the concept that Democrats want to import illegal voters. All made up.

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Also, just to clear up confusion for Trump supporters, there's nothing illegal about going to a border crossing and requesting asylum. It's illegal to try to stop them or to turn them away, which is what Trump's position is.

100,000 people could show up at the border tomorrow and request asylum. Building a wall in Nowhere, Texas, doesn't change any of that.

If you want a better use of $25 billion, have them hire more immigration lawyers and judges since the average wait to have your asylum case heard is 2 years. That's where they can get lost in the country and never found again, although a vast majority show up for their cases.

The stuff about rapists and criminals and yadda yadda yadda is the GOP's way to making people afraid of anyone who enters the country in an effort to support radical laws (or breaking of laws) like turning away legal asylum seekers. They pushed the same lie with the UN refugee program where a 2-year vetting program with a low success rate was advertised as "no vetting at all". We heard that lie from several posters here which they picked up from right wing politicians and media.

Then there were the lies about drugs entering the country, Muslim prayer rugs, terrorists, etc. It's all about generating as much fear as possible.

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100,000 people could show up at the border tomorrow and request asylum. Building a wall in Nowhere, Texas, doesn't change any of that.

Oh, well then let's just go Beto O'Rourke and tear down what barriers we have. And could you and Beto please house and feed the asylum seekers, SuperLib? Thanks a lot in advance.

The Democratic Party motto: "DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH -- but not in my back yard, please!!!"

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The Republicans love open-borders. Their refusal to pass any legislation to protect the borders, for two straight terms when they held all of congress, shows they love open borders, love illegal immigration, and hate America.

The Republicans hate America. It's not proven fact beyond all reasonable doubt.

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*now proven fact

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No, Trump "weighs" 300 pounds. This ugly stunt just goes to show the depths of his personal depravity. Threatening to arbitrarily relocate asylum seekers to urban areas unprepared to settle them to score political points is a new low, even for him. Fortunately, it will never happen, because the courts will once again rule against him, and he'll be forced to eat his words. The base has reached the point in their addiction that maintenance shots are not working, so Donny the dealer is cutting his product with pure poison, like the NYPost tweet. Fentanyl for the fools.

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"We welcome all illegals" - Lefties

"We can't let Trump 'dump' this garbage here." - Lefties

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"We refuse to pass border legislation when nothing is stopping us" - Republicans

"We hate free speech" - Republicans

"We hate America" - Republicans

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Democrats created sanctuary cities as places for illegal aliens to congregate. Democrats created sanctuary cities as places for illegal aliens to avoid federal detention, and extradition back to their country of origin. Now the Democrats are refusing to accept illegal aliens in sanctuary cities????

Democrats who object to illegal aliens being sent to sanctuary cities because either A) they didn't think of it first, or B) because Republicans thought of it. Either way, the Democrats current objections make them look like hypocrites.

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Sanctuary cities are only cities where the city government refuses to use the domestic police force for illegal immigration control when more agents should be employed.

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Republicans refused to pass legislation to shore up the borders. Republicans just officially pushed a policy of not only letting in countless illegal immigrants, but even offering them cities to live in. Now the Republicans are trying to pretend they are anything other than 100% entirely for open borders????

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"We refuse to pass border legislation when nothing is stopping us" - Republicans

I have explained this time and again - it's difficult to pass border legislation with zero support from Democrats and RINOS.

"We hate free speech" - Republicans

"We hate America" - Republicans

No basis in reality there.

Democrats create sanctuary cities to help illegal immigrants, Trump offers to provide them with plenty and their heads explode. Go figure.

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zichi - Sanctuary cities are only cities where the city government refuses to use the domestic police force for illegal immigration control when more agents should be employed.

Sanctuary city government officials have repeatedly made it clear that they welcome all illegal aliens to their cities. This is their chance to prove to U.S. voters, and the world, that they actually mean what they've been implying. All illegal aliens are welcome to come to sanctuary cities. But their current refusal to accept illegal aliens into their sanctuary cities suggest that the Democrat administrations running these sanctuary cities are hypocrites. Or liars.

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If their refusal to pass any immigration control even with support from the Democrats didn't already prove beyond a doubt that the right is for open-borders, Trump now talking about inviting an unlimited amount of illegals into the country proves that the Republican party is the most open-border party that has ever existed in America since its founding.

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I have explained this time and again - it's difficult to pass border legislation with zero support from Democrats and RINOS.

The pubs held both houses of congress. And they refused to pass border legislation, they love open borders, and they love illegal immigrants.

And then they try to pretend they want a wall, so they can hide their open-borders policy from the people. But we all see through that lie, by their refusal to pass any border legislation even though there was literally nothing stopping them.

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My parents were US immigrants. I enjoyed the benefits. I do believe there’s a bad precedent to just allow people to come into the nation without legal process. It’s a slap in the face to those who over the years went through the proper course, paying their dues. Laws exist for all. We won’t get into the reason for them heading to their northern border; that’s a totally different issue.

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California should say “OK, we will take them”. “Oh, by the way, we are are leaving the United States and forming an independent country.”

Great. Please ensure to leave the all the federal benefits at the door on your way out.

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Serrano: "Democrats create sanctuary cities to help illegal immigrants, Trump offers to provide them with plenty and their heads explode. Go figure."

It's Trump's head that's exploding, and hence his absolutely disgraceful treatment of human beings, and you guys, too, proving you don't care at all about immigrants being illegally in your country if you'll allow them in certain areas as a retaliatory measure for making your heads explode. How pathetic.

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The question that keeps coming to the fore is, why does this man have such an intense dislike for people of color???

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Again, another great idea by Trump.

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Trump offers to provide them with plenty [with American citizenship free of charge and will be allowed to then go to any city in the USA just like any other American] and their heads explode. Go figure.

Just like Reagan (who gave out 3M green cards to illegals) looks like amnesty part 2 with Trump. OK, looks like it's the Republicans giving out the green cards.

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