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© Thomson Reuters 2020.Biden, Trump rallies show sharp contrast amid as coronavirus surges again
By Steve Holland and Trevor Hunnicutt CIRCLEVILLE, Ohio/DALLAS, Pa©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Graham DeShazo
Bob,
Paraphrasing here, but You said one person is screaming nonsense (That’s Trump) and one is dealing with it like any rational adult would (that’s Biden). I know you didn’t mean it that way, but it’s the way any sentient being would interpret it.
I see you misspelled “Kamala”. I can’t tell if you cannot spell, made a mistake, or have more nefarious issues....
Here’s the thing, one party pays attention to public health directives and does socially distanced events watched by lots of others on-line (That’s Biden-Harris, just in case you’re having trouble keeping up)
For example I, from Japan, got to watch Obama rip COVID Donald a new one (several times). Was I “there”? No I wasn’t. Did I see it? yes, I did. It’s called technology.
The other party continues to hold Super-Spreader events for 2 reasons: to feed the ego of a narcissistic sociopath, and to give the illusion of support. (That’s Trump-Pence). They don’t give a fig about the health or well-being of the cultists and rubes that’s crowd in for the chance to hear the greatest hits from 16. It reminds me of the middle-age house wives that crowd the mall to see Rick Springfield’s next comeback tour....
In fact, when asked the most mundane questions, Don can only go 45 out of 60 min.....
Jimizo
Eight out of ten black people think Trump is a racist according to this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/black-americans-deeply-pessimistic-about-country-under-president-who-more-than-8-in-10-describe-as-a-racist-post-ipsos-poll-finds/2020/01/16/134b705c-37de-11ea-bb7b-265f4554af6d_story.html
SuperLib
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Bob Fosse
Biden smashed him in TV ratings.
stormcrow
How anybody could jump into a jam packed crowd of Trump supporters without masks on is nuts.
Jimizo
The Sun is the definition of a UK trash tabloid. It goes without saying that Murdoch is behind it.
Keep it decent. This isn’t a Trump rally or a Hannity show.
Speaking of the UK, do you remember when Trump retweeted dodgy videos from a UK-based racist organisation and caused the then PM to rebuke him along with other senior members of a Conservative government? He later threw a tantrum and tweeted trash at the wrong Theresa May on Twitter. It caused fury in the UK.
I still can’t work out why the least racist person you’d ever meet did that.
Jimizo
Missing the point as usual.
Why would the US president retweet dodgy material from a racist organisation?
This is unbelievable. You’d probably get banned from this site for doing that.
Bob Fosse
Nah, they’re having too much fun with Rudy.
Graham DeShazo
Interestingly, the Washington Post did a simulation to account for Bass’ famous oversampling claim (since he’s got nothing else). What they found was that even if the polls, which tend to be correlated (that means they move together, Bass), underestimate Trump support by 4%, which is around the margin of error, Biden still gets 278 EC votes.
In other words, for you who’ve never taken a statistics class, even if the standard deviation is doubled in Trump’s favor, he still loses.
This is the worst case scenario for Biden. If the polls are accurate, He hits 300 EC votes. If they are off by the same amount in the same direction as 2016, 350 EC.
CONDOLENCES.
Graham DeShazo
Or do companies regularly give drug addicts and their Daddy shares in their joint ventures?
Seems to work pretty well for JR, he of the glassy red eyes, excessive snorting and ADHD-level delivery on Faux followed by the crash video delivered from his bed complaining jibberish about Instagram messing with his algorithm.
Cocaine much, JR?
rcch
There are too many people that don’t want to admit they’re going to vote for Trump, not even to their own family members. Careful with those. Just saying.
Strangerland
The pubs are ANGRY that Joe was very clear and very believable that he isn’t trying to eliminate fracking, while no one believes trump’s attempt to pretends he’s not racist.
lincolnman
Great picture! It really shows Biden's sense of fair play - putting all those Trump heads out in front of the podium...
lincolnman
Baseless? The families of over 220K Americans would have a different view...like this former Trump supporter...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-coronavirus-vet-trump-supporter-switches-biden-wife-dies-covid-20200929-pugpafbdhzgnxn6yqivjkzdsni-story.html
One says in private that the virus is a "killer", "deadly", and "rips you apart"....but tell the public it's "just the flu", and then then holds a super-spreader event that infects over 40 people to include his wife and his son...
The Avenger
How to Track Your Absentee Ballot by State
https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-track-your-absentee-ballot-by-state
lincolnman
Oh, there are many more than 3 or 4 dodgy retweets - multiply that by 1000....
He also re-tweeted that wearing a mask is "Anti-American" and a "symbol of slavery"...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-tweet-that-says-masks-represent-slavery-and-social-death-2020-5
Do you agree?
lincolnman
Whether the Trump supporters want to admit it or not, everyone knows this race is over....COVID is resurging across a broad swath of America - blue and red states - yet we have a President that goes to his rallies and says "we've rounded the corner" and "it's disappearing"....
It didn't disappear from the Rose Garden where this President's super-spreader event infected over 40 people to include himself, and he then infected his wife and son...what a caring husband and a father, huh? And him knowing the virus is "deadly" and a "killer"...
These Trump rallies are to feed his cult their dose of fear and hate - to try to get them to turn out at the polls because he already told them voting by mail was fraudulent....even though that's how he voted...
This is to try to stem the landslide so the humiliation of losing won't sting so bad...
But like with everything else Trump does, this will be a failure too....
wtfjapan
"We are rounding the turn,"
the following day a record 84,218 new cases on Friday 23rd October , eclipsed its one-day record high of 77,299 new cases on July 16. yeah rounding the turn for the worse
SuperLib
So what do you make of the NY Attorney General questioning Eric Trump on the Trump family business dealings earlier this month? You know, an actual, real and ongoing investigation into Trump Co?
Eric Trump questioned under oath in Trump Organization investigation
The New York attorney general is investigating several Trump Organization properties
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-trump-questioned-under-oath-in-trump-organization-investigation
I guess we can just ignore it.
Strangerland
The trumpets never met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like - except for the one that is proven about Russia running disinformation campaigns in America.
That one is too realistic for them. They gain power the more ridiculous the conspiracy theory.
u_s__reamer
The other treats Covid as any adult with a brain does.
Come on, get real!
This "other" has never shown proof (with "the best words" or deeds) that he has one to boast of. Well, perhaps because he isn't actually an adult (mentally)?
And the 220,000+ dead Americans might disagree (if they could only speak from their graves.)
lincolnman
And isn't this little news nugget interesting....
The Trump Organization reregistered the domain name TrumpTowerMoscow.com this June, internet records show, suggesting that contrary to President Trump's claims, the company has not necessarily abandoned its pursuit of the lucrative real estate deal that figured prominently in multiple investigations into his connections with Russia.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-coronavirus-vet-trump-supporter-switches-biden-wife-dies-covid-20200929-pugpafbdhzgnxn6yqivjkzdsni-story.html
With Trump, it ALWAYS comes back to Russia...
SimondB
Who would have thought that a killer virus had political leanings? Learn something everyday.
Graham DeShazo
225k dead. 80+k new infections TODAY, likely seeded by Covid Don’s super-spreader events.
11 million still unemployed. Democrats passed a second stimulus, which Fed Chairman Powel says is desperately needed, in MAY. The economy is likely slipping back into recession. The first president since Hoover to preside over a net lose of jobs in office
Every qualified Public Health expert says we are heading for a very dark winter, perhaps 500k dead by February.
Take away health care during a pandemic with no plan for replacement (coming in 2 weeks 8 weeks ago) while creating 8 million new people with pre-existing conditions
But sure, let’s fixate on a conspiracy theory that 50 IC professionals have said bears all the signs of a Russian disinformation campaign and that strains credulity to its breaking point.
This is the death rattle of a campaign that is out of time, out of ideas, and out of money.
Toasted Heretic
Odd, that. Given that the right wing contingent here has often linked to trashy conservative British sites, and their leader, Trump, has retweeted actual British fascists.
Aside from that - this is World News - and whoever "leads" the US happens to affect all of us. For better or (more recently) for worse.
And when President Biden swears in, he should have had plenty of time to learn from his disgraced predecessor's many mistakes in how to handle the pandemic.
Graham DeShazo
Bob, Thank you for endorsing Joe Biden.
Infection rates after COVID Donald’s super-spreader events are often double the rate before the mask less moron came to town.
lincolnman
Hmmmmm......
*Biden is more popular than Trump**. The former vice president gets net positive favorable ratings in Michigan (+8 points), Ohio (+2), Pennsylvania (+9), and Wisconsin (+3). Trump’s ratings are net negative by 13 points, 3 points, 8 points, and 9 points respectively. *
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-trump-gains-in-ohio-biden-ahead-in-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin
Hmmmmm......
*Ten states Friday reported their highest one-day case counts: Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Minnesota, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming, according to Johns Hopkins.*
*The number of coronavirus deaths reported in the United States on Wednesday reached its highest in two months, offering more evidence that the pandemic was gaining fresh momentum across the country as cooler weather sets in.*
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/17/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
Hmmmmm.......
*The ad, which paints an incomplete picture of the American economy amid the coronavirus pandemic, does so in part by featuring stock footage from *countries outside the United States, including a warehouse in Ukraine and publicly available footage of two models -- one from Italy and another from Ukraine – but which appear in the ad to represent images from the U.S.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ad-touting-great-american-comeback-features-foreign/story?id=72902748
wtfjapan
Biden smashed him in TV ratings.
polls show Biden got better gains than Trump, oh my
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-biden-debate-poll/
u_s__reamer
"He hasn't shown any interest in doing the work or helping anybody except himself and his friends or treating the presidency like a reality show to give himself more attention," Obama said. "The rest of us have to live with the consequences of what he's done. At least 220,000 Americans are dead."
Trump in a nutshell.
He's no emperor, and he sure ain't got no clothes!
Just look everybody!
tooheysnew
as a non-American, I love the banter here between the supporters of the two parties.
u_s__reamer
Every picture tells a story and Biden seems to be signalling to us his Halloween treat: what's orange on the outside and empty inside has to get thrown out in November. Or am I reading too much into this photo?
TARA TAN KITAOKA
I watched the debate. We must vote for Biden
PTownsend
The Super-spreader-in-chief leading yet another super-spreader event.
Trump's attracted many who actually believe what they've read on Qanon, RT and elsewhere in wack/fringe media that the virus is a plot launched by alien reptiles, that it's a hoax, that it's just another flu.
I wonder how many will contract the virus at this rally.
Trump, the gravedigger of the republic, adored by anti-democracy, pro-authoritarians around the globe, especially those nations where he and his family have their global businesses.
Goodlucktoyou
So bird flu, swine influenza, HIV, STDs, SARS-1, seasonal influenza, opioid addiction...
Ah_so
Biden won't win this election, but Trump is definitely going to lose it.
FizzBit
It seems more Trump supporters showed up to the Biden drive-in rally than Biden supporters.
Here we go again folks. Grab the popcorn as the Dem/MSM machine repeats Biden is “up in the polls”. Soon it will be time to cry. Maybe you hate Trump, but when he wins, you won’t see any warmongering. The Dems are now the corporate warmongers. How does THAT sit with ya’ll?
yakyak
I have watched both candidates. Trump is loud and speaks with passion, Biden yells at people like he is a crusty old man hard of hearing.
Txrogers
Biden is a wasted “sock puppet” who spent almost 50 yrs with his nose in the public trough. And achieved nothing.
Biden and Harris are yesterday’s train wreck still waiting to come to a halt.
But it will.
That’s America for you. A political class defined by a debauched Democratic Party that is desperately trying to stay ahead of a self promoting reality show host that manages bankruptcy and tax avoidance better than any other business.
Under educated, overweight, over medicated, over tattooed, and overly entitled is no way to rise out moral and financial bankruptcy.
bass4funk
So how have the Dems helped blacks these last 60 years? What progress did they make? I think ICE Cube and 50 Cent and Kanye are on to something, Candace Owens was right. Dems don’t own blacks or the black vote! Now will someone tell Chelsea Handler that as well? Apparently, she thinks otherwise.
FizzBit
please don’t forget about us Americans who dislike both parties. I will never vote for an establishment Rep (actually never have) or Dem. They are already bought-n-sold. It’s also the main reason why Trump won. Even the straight ticket Reps didn’t like their non-choices in the last election. Most of the Dems just seem to be total sheep. I remember watching Biden on C-SPAN back in the late 80’s and on, and he is not the same guy. Why the Dem party would let Biden, who’s well qualified but obviously too diminished, head their party says it all. They know the party herd will follow.
invalid CSRF
yakyak
Biden is running for President like it’s 1990
bass4funk
By the popular vote he probably will lose, but not the electoral college.
Blacklabel
Or when Biden forgot to register beijingbiden.com
and no, that’s a leftist lie that Trump hates black people. Ask Van Jones of CNN. Liberals want him fired for going off message.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13013981/liberals-turn-ex-obama-adviser-cnn-van-jones-trump/
20 percent Black vote, Trump landslide.
bass4funk
Wait a minute...
Dems want to:
Pack the courts
eliminate the filibuster
want to make and give Statehood to DC and Puerto Rico
want to eliminate private healthcare insurance
want to eliminate fracking
want to eliminate school choice
There's your power grab, the donkey wants to kick everyone in the head.
or if Biden loses he refuses to concede peacefully, the Dems won’t, you know it and I know it.
commanteer
If Dems were as insistent on seeing proof for claims they agree with, they might learn a few things.
Blacklabel
chumps? Trump guys? Kinda ruins his “I will be the President for all” nonsense, huh?
bass4funk
I agree.
https://www.blackenterprise.com/attorney-leo-terrell-trump-highest-number-of-black-votes/
bob
who's gonna tell him the date of the article?
Blacklabel
You missing the point. We are talking about the false Dem narrative that Trump is racist against American Black people.
no one cares about UK videos you are obsessed over.
Blacklabel
someone needs to tell your media.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/522530-how-california-turned-the-corner-on-covid-19
bass4funk
I couldn’t agree more.
bass4funk
Biden smashed him in TV ratings.
Yup! Lol
https://youtu.be/digRNl-tmKI
bob
Hm. Whom should I believe per Trump's "racism"?
a white leftist, or the black community who have just given the President his highest approval ratings yet?
https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1319605958037950470
Blacklabel
Yeah nice poll from January.
things have changed since then with Antifa/BLM violence plus numerous racist comments from Biden changing peoples minds.
even if so, 2 of 10 Black people voting for Trump, Biden is done.
Blacklabel
for a Republican in 2020 after all the Antifa/BLM stuff? Yes that is definitely something to brag about! and wins him reelection, easily.
Blacklabel
too late. the only political purpose of COVID for Dems was to scare people into not going outside and forcing 100% vote by mail. Didnt happen.
All the people who caught COVID at the so called "superspreader events"? Recovered.
In person voting. Happening. Even in NY, the Dem stronghold.
Narrative? failed.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/522605-new-yorkers-stand-in-long-lines-at-the-polls-on-first-day-of-early
Blacklabel
and most deaths to date in the liberal ones, by far.
No one cares about "cases" when 99.99% of people under 70 recover.
Oh and I guess your teammate missed Trump voting in person today in Florida?
No one is scared of corona anymore, we are reopening and going back to life. Joe cant hide in the basement anymore.
bass4funk
If you want to believe the over sampling of liberals ans you think liberals trust Biden more on the economy, go ahead. Lol.
No, that would be the Democrats, Trump is saying, we have to learn and live with the virus ans make the best of it. Biden is doom and gloom and we have to stay locked down until a cure is found...which could take years and then there’s fracking....Biden screwed himself on that royally. So I think at this point Joe needs to retire to his bunker, over for him.
One vote of millions and Dems that harvest these votes....
The only way Dems can win at this point is to cheat.
bass4funk
Judging by the massive car rallies, boat rallies, crowds everywhere, doesn’t look like it despite what the media is so desperately trying to make people believe. Lol
As the death rate continues to fall. Fantastic, but there is an even bigger problem that Dems never want to talk about...
https://www.americanenergyalliance.org/2020/07/joe-biden-would-cripple-energy-producing-swing-states/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/the-democrats-big-gamble-on-joe-biden/608128/
bass4funk
So Biden would rather put over half a million people out of work...thought so.
And this is the reason why Biden just lost. Big chunk of voters.
Serrano
Biden, Trump rallies show sharp contrast
Yes, thousands of enthusiastic supporters show up at Trump rallies, virtually no one shows up at Biden appearances.
Opinion polls show Biden leading Trump nationally
Of course, that's going to continue until Trump's landslide victory.
In Pennsylvania, polls show Biden narrowly leading. A Reuters/Ipsos survey released earlier this week showed Biden with a four-percentage point advantage over Trump in the state
That means Biden will lose Pennsylvania in spite of Philadelphia.
Biden denied Trump accusations that he plans to ban fracking, a process to extract natural gas from shale. "I will not ban fracking, period," he said in Dallas, Pennsylvania
Sure, Joe, that's not what you and Kamala said before.
bob
I think the as least the 3rd or 4th time you have gone on about some "dodgy" retweet of something or other.
Im sure the 17 people in the United States who follow British politics will be outraged.
bass4funk
You go on YouTube and Twitter and you see miles of people, Biden you just see him...maybe a car or two. I get why the media doesn’t want to pan Biden’s so called rallies.
But they’re getting better, death rate is going down and the best part, lower taxes and freedom and No rioting, no wonder liberals are moving there.
bob
The contrast is stark indeed.
One candidate is using Covid as a prop for the election and selling a baseless fear campaign to keep Americans scared of their own shadows.
The other treats Covid as any adult with a brain does.
bass4funk
Doesn’t seem anyone is getting sick.
What?
Sounds like more liberal desperation rant and nothing better to offer. Hey, did you hear how Trump supporters got under Biden’s skin? Heard not many people there and isn’t it ironic that when Biden holds a rally, the camera never pans at his rallies, but they always pan at Trump’s, now we know why. Lol
bass4funk
Worse actually, a lot worse.
And now the Feds have his HD not good.
And no one is buying it. Enter the msm doing their darnedest to bury this story.
Well, seems to be working, no one forced Hunter to do the things he’s done and no one told Joe to push his some into this, everyone has a free mind.
Texas A&M Aggie
The left has an excuse for everything. The 7 Biden supporters they kept in those white circles in the name of the virus a couple of weeks ago was embarrassingly priceless.
bass4funk
Why more and more are waking up.
https://newsadvance.com/opinion/community_viewpoint/community-viewpoint-black-men-for-trump-makes-a-lot-of-sense/article_0b5cf3fa-c858-56db-8ec3-b1fb5630eb43.html
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/