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Britain, EU to resume talks in final push for Brexit trade deal

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By Alistair Smout, Elizabeth Piper and Gabriela Baczynska

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Messy mess, knowing no good deal can happen because no one wants to accept to lose face.

UK will bite the dust strongly.

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Messy mess, knowing no good deal can happen because no one wants to accept to lose face.

UK will bite the dust strongly.

Also, Boring Johnson can no longer play his trump card because the big loser lost the election! There are no alternative major trade deals unless they do business with China and Russia.

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This transition period, the FTA process of negotiation is arguably a farcical political ambiguous illusionary charade, all panto and pretense. Well it is the panto season

Next week two bills will surface/resurface in UK Parliament.

The introduce of the Finance Bill is introduced and the restatement of clauses in the Internal Market Bill.

These two bills will see an end to any pretense of a trade agreement.

Also pulling the rug from under the withdrawal treaty.

Boris Johnson is unpredictable. I suggest this was his Government aims all along. A complete clean break.

All the ambivalent feigning of taking back control, whether it be fisheries, level this or that, governance, dispute resolution.

All a sham.

French President Emmanuel Macron could have fallen head long into a trap partially of his own making, however it didn’t take much of a push from Johnson.

What good deal is it for the future of EU fishing industry if you negotiate and subsequently paint yourself into a corner, and literally achieve zero, nothing?

Totally free from EU treaty law, any EU regulatory structure, is in essence taking back absolute total  control to fundamentally restructure UK business model in every sphere and sector.

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Irish Prime Minister Micheal Martin welcomed the decision to resume talks, saying on Twitter: "Every effort should be made to reach a deal."

Be a bit more forceful, Taoiseach. Being soft and placatory doesn't wash with the Tory scum.

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Be a bit more forceful, Taoiseach. Being soft and placatory doesn't wash with the Tory scum.

True enough, but from what I saw from the opinion polls, it looks like the Irish people don’t think much of the people running their major parties either.

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May I humbly suggest that the Government of Ireland has historically, for better or for worst, political and economic affiliation to the UK people if not the present UK Government.

Even so, I also believe neither the Governments of Ireland/UK would ever erect a border hard or otherwise between the North and South, no matter if the EU commission insists otherwise.  

Certainly not for the sake of the EU single market or customs union.

The relationship between the UK and Irish Government, also North and South, are irrevocably entwined, evolving into a shared economic and political flexibility of consensus, over and above the appeal to comply to treaty law, come what may.

Ireland north and south, is UK closest political ally.

Boris Johnson needs to reach out and affirm that relationship.  How this is to be achieved is another matter altogether though.

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Will UK-EU talk end by end of December 2020? If not, what a waste of time, energy, money and manpower. With virus infected cases going on, stabbing and knifing here and there, is UK not descending into a chilly dark winter..?

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The EU should say “Here’s the offer on the table. Take it or don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Sure it’ll hurt us. It’ll hurt you much more.”

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True enough, but from what I saw from the opinion polls, it looks like the Irish people don’t think much of the people running their major parties either.

They certainly don't. The Civil War era parties, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are both centre right and have continually shafted the electorate. The former, known for their dodgy land deals and the latter once being known as the "blueshirts" for their early flirtations with fascism.

Most recently, in an historic and cynical move, they formed a coalition in order to keep Sinn Fein out of government.

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With Biden in the White House the Withdrawal Agreement - that piece of international law that Boris threatened to break - is safe, meaning no land border in Ireland.

This reality strengthens relationships between the UK and Ireland, the EU and the US, all of whom are guarantors for the northern Irish peace process.

The EU will word any agreement diplomatically to allow Boris to save face, at least until he steps down, which we should expect early in the new year. He won't want to hang around as the economy hurtles back to its 1970s Sick Man of Europe status.

With a customs border between them and Britain for the first time ever, Northern Ireland's Unionists will feel betrayed, but they're used to it. Expect increasing calls for IndyRef 2 in Europhile Scotland, with its cession from the UK accelerating momentum for a United Ireland, too.

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With a customs border between them and Britain for the first time ever, Northern Ireland's Unionists will feel betrayed, but they're used to it.

They'd be better off in an inclusive, united Ireland - where they'd genuinely be part of the country. People in GB don't give a stuff about the Unionist community, I've genuinely been asked if the Unionists are Irish nationalists in favour of a union between the Republic and the 6 counties!

Expect increasing calls for IndyRef 2 in Europhile Scotland, with its cession from the UK accelerating momentum for a United Ireland, too.

Excellent news. Something to be said for the mess that Brexit is, after all.

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When Emmanuel Macron insisted that the UK agree to the French fishing fleet unfettered access to British coastal waters for ten years, Emmanuel Macron inadvertently gifted the Boris Johnson government the political means to justify his blatant breech of Treaty Law and in so doing sow the seed that could place the government of Ireland to consider its future as a EU member state.

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