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"Defying any particular law sets a really, really dangerous precedent," he told BBC radio.

I think that we are all learning that when you elect fast talking scammers they really don’t care about such things.

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Time for Boris to resign - he cannot be compelled to take an action for which it is no longer possible for him to take.  Let them elect a new PM, resign, elect, resign, etc. until November.  Then hold that election.

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This all sounds so familiar. People voting against their own self-interests in a drive to keep out people not like themselves.

A bare majority of the British may have voted for Brexit, but they did not vote for a crash-out, no-deal Brexit and they were given false and misleading information about the details (or lack thereof) when the vote took place. That's why so many people want a second referendum.

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An opinion poll on election voting intentions, carried out by Survation for the Daily Mail newspaper

Yeah, right. Survation is owned by a man called Damian Lyons-Lowe, a great friend of Nigel Farage. He and his company were involved in making millions by shorting the pound directly after the Brexit vote:

"The private exit poll that appears to have had the most clients was conducted by Farage’s favorite pollster and friend, Damian Lyons-Lowe, whose company is called Survation. It was sold to multiple clients and correctly predicted Leave, according to Farage and other sources familiar with the results. In an interview with Bloomberg, Farage said he learned of Survation’s results before making at least one of two public concessions that night, meaning there was a good chance he was feeding specious sentiment into markets."

Anyone who's interested should read this excellent Bloomberg article from last year:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-25/brexit-big-short-how-pollsters-helped-hedge-funds-beat-the-crash

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Time for Boris to go. Not least because I have money on him not being PM by this time next year.

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Johnson has already told us that he thinks empty threats are a valid tactic. Its how he said he wanted to negotiate with the EU. He needed the threat of No Deal to negotiate. His words.

Johnson not following a law about asking for an extension would put him personally at risk of arrest etc. for a matter of principle. He's no martyr. He will never do it.

The biggest story in the tabloid right wing press, the Daily Mail, the Daily Express, and now the Telegraph, this week has been "Corbyn is a chicken". Choosing to highlight that after all that has happened is a Chemical Ali level distortion. If you want accurate right wing news, read the Financial Times, owned by Nikkei.

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When the Brexit vote was held three years ago, no one knew that voting yes would result in this particular mess. With so much new information the case for a second vote is strong.

Or, since Britain's little experiment in democracy does not seem to be working out, I offer humbly offer my services as king....absolute monarchy of course.

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 35% (-)

LAB: 21% (-4)

LDEM: 19% (+3)

BREX: 12% (+1)

via @YouGov, 05 - 06 Sep

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"If Parliament is unable to decide on Brexit it would be better to have a snap General Election"

Agree: 50%

Disagree: 18%

via @ComRes, 04 - 06 Sep

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All info can be seen here:

https://twitter.com/britainelects?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Looks like Boris is very popular with the public. Labour are losing/aren't making any progress with support.

It's becoming quite obvious that Parliament is happy to ignore the referendum result, and that they don't want to have a GE because they know they'll be gone.

The longer this goes on, the stronger the backlash.

(I hope they keep going and really p*ss off the public)

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Also:

BREAKING: Nigel Farage tells the Sunday Times the Brexit party will not stand candidates against the 28 Tory Brexiteers who opposed May’s deal - and anyone else who vows not to back any deal

https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/1170435422247366657

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Tangerine2000Today  10:42 am JST

Looks like Boris is very popular with the public.

If so it doesn't reflect very well on the public.

Tangerine2000Today  10:45 am JST

Also:

BREAKING: Nigel Farage tells the Sunday Times the Brexit party will not stand candidates against the 28 Tory Brexiteers who opposed May’s deal - and anyone else who vows not to back any deal

That's big of him. Doubt if no deal is as much of a vote winner as he thinks it is though, or that bill making it illegal wouldn't have passed.

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Doubt if no deal is as much of a vote winner as he thinks it is though, or that bill making it illegal wouldn't have passed.

I don't think the public had any say in the anti no-deal bill. I think the bill is extremely unpopular with the British public.

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HMS Bozo is taking on water and on Monday when the law stopping a no deal is passed it will sink rapidly into deep blue sea.

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Cabinet Minister Amber Rudd RESIGNS in hammer-blow to Bozo.

Top Remainer quits the Tories and launches devastating attack on PM with warning his ‘aggressive, dangerous’ approach to Brexit will lead to violence on the streets

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1600 British army soldiers are placed on standby to deliver fuel if there is a crisis with Brexit.

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I don't think the public had any say in the anti no-deal bill. I think the bill is extremely unpopular with the British public.

The British voter had their say in 2017 when they elected a conservative government. Even though the was no mandate in the manifesto to leave without a deal.

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Tangerine2000Today  11:26 am JST

I think the bill is extremely unpopular with the British public.

I think a majority of MPs from across the political spectrum whose jobs depend on knowing what's popular with their constituents would disagree.

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The U.K. Globalist politicians are corrupt and bought off like the U.S. Globalist politicians.

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Farage will get fewer votes than UKIP in the past. UKIP campaigned for an undefined Brexit where voters could dream up their own details, with Farage himself often citing Norway. The Brexit Party is campaigning for No Deal only. Like the Tories, they are splitting the Brexit vote. Under first past the post, they won't win many seats.

Theresa May called that unnecessary election because she had a twenty-point lead in the polls. It is well known that people will tell pollsters one thing and put their cross somewhere else.

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Even though the was no mandate in the manifesto to leave without a deal.

Conservative manifesto 2017, page 36 (at the top)

...but we continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK.

https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto

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@simon foston

I think a majority of MPs from across the political spectrum whose jobs depend on knowing what's popular with their constituents would disagree.

If it's so popular then they should put it to an election. They won't because they know the public won't support them.

In the EU referendum, 408 constituencies out of 650 voted to leave. Of Labour constituencies, 184 voted to leave, and 84 to remain. They know it's as popular as a lead balloon.

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...but we continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK.

That isn't a statement that the UK will leave the EU without a deal and if so why didn't May leave in March?

We continue to believe.........

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Even though the was no mandate in the manifesto to leave without a deal

That isn't a statement that the UK will leave the EU without a deal and if so why didn't May leave in March?

Changing the goalposts there, zichi.

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..but we continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK.

That's about as clear as "Brexit means Brexit". But their manifesto also said they would continue to negotiate for a deal what was in the best interests of Britain. May then negotiated a deal that she said was the best deal possible. Others disagreed, but the British public has had no opportunity to express its opinion on that deal or its preferred option if they didn't like it.

I've said before that a second referendum on that deal with the option to leave or remain would have been the best course of action. I'd say the same again for whatever deal Johnson can come up with, but as it seems he has no intention of striking a deal, it's kind of moot.

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I've said before that a second referendum on that deal with the option to leave or remain would have been the best course of action.

I would say that if a second referendum took place, it should have four options:

Leave with no deal

Leave with May's deal

Remain if after negotiating, a better deal can't be done

Remain and become full EU member with Euro, EU defense force etc.

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And, before voting, everyone should be made to watch a documentary about the causes and the horrible results of the two World Wars.

And then let’s see how many people choose to break up the safety of the EU....

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And, before voting, everyone should be made to watch a documentary about the causes and the horrible results of the two World Wars.

And then let’s see how many people choose to break up the safety of the EU....

The EU hasn't prevented war, NATO has. For example, the EU didn't do anything for European peace in Bosnia.

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@Tangerine2000

The whole point of the EU was to help avoid war between the current members and it has succeeded in that since 1945. When has NATO ever prevented a war? It has participated in a few but I don't remember it ever preventing one.

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@Tangerine

Interesting argument. So NATO prevented war in the Balkans?

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So NATO prevented war in the Balkans?

No. But if you are going to talk about World Wars, you have to remember that countries outside of Europe are involved. NATO has prevented such conflicts. The EU hasn't.

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@Hello Kitty 321

When has NATO ever prevented a war?

The whole idea of NATO was/is that if you attack one member, you have attacked all. Thankfully, this system has prevented any armed conflicts between major powers for a very long time.

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Both the EU and NATO have prevented wars between the state members with those more concerned with trade than battlefields like yesterday years. America is a NATO member but not an EU member. There have been many EU discussions on forming an EU unified military.

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Amber is the latest signal soon to be followed by Labour red putting a thankful end to the wild rampage of Boris in the U.K's political china shop.

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Tomorrow the queen will signed into law that the UK can't leave without a deal.

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Tomorrow the queen will signed into law that the UK can't leave without a deal.

I feel sorry for the British people. Their politicians suck and they are disarmed.

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I feel sorry for the British people. Their politicians suck and they are disarmed.

Why?

Much better than the American two party system which fails the American people too often as with introducing new gun laws to help prevent the mass shooting. Independent State laws and then federal laws.

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Macron may veto new extension because trust with UK has broken down, former French ambassador warns

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-delay-extension-france-macron-veto-article-50-boris-johnson-a9094221.html

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France says no to an extension after Oct 31 under the current agreements.

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If you have doubts about Labour Party policy on Brexit, Emily Thornberry, Shadow Foreign Secretary is an example

Why even doesn't understand Labour's Brexit stance.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSa2wvJCIEc

If this is the Labour Party ludicrously absurd stance on Brexit, can you imagine the party policy on the economy is going to shape up to be?

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Were France to veto an extension to the deadline, the UK’s only option would be to rescind Article 50. I think Mr Macron would be less happy with that result.

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[Britain Elects commissioned] Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (-)

LAB: 27% (-)

LDEM: 20% (+4)

BREX: 13% (-3)

GRN: 3% (-1)

via @ComRes, 04 - 06 Sep Chgs. w/ 11 Aug

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Guy Verhofstadt has now said an extension is unacceptable:

Foreign Minister Le Drian is right: yet another extension for Brexit is unacceptable, unless the deadlock in London is broken. Let it be a 2nd ref., new elections, a revocation of art. 50 or the approval of the deal, but not today’s helpless status quo

https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1170680111189901314

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The UK cant agree upon anything, they are Politically dysfunctional, and by agreeing against Brexit, they are going against the Public vote... Europe won't make a new deal (that it as they themselves have stated) and the Brits rejected the last one... so Stalemate.

As of now, the UK's most valuable Companies have ditched the UK, so the Damage has already been done... I dont know why people cant see this. There is simply no other way forward than to exit. Trying to back track will lead the UK to what ? A Greece like Country... tied to European rules, with distrust, lack of investment or financial Generation and without Sovereign rights ? The Queen I hope will reject the approval of the latest anti-Brexit no deal bill, and thereby make a ground breaking statement of intent that is backed by the support of the people of the land that she represents. Her Politicians certainly cant be said to do that.

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The Queen (the Monarchy) in the UK, are albeit a figure head, however they are the last bastion of recourse when matters political are in a stalemate that threatens the integrity of the the UK.... the Royal Assent Act 1967 section 1(2) does allow her to do so. She may reject the bill, at the request of her Government, and by doing so, she will be seen to be in agreement with the Majority of her Population. It's going to be a hard choice, but it is the British thing, and not doing so, will destroy the reputation of the Monarchy within the UK, further leading to calls for it's abolishment.

God save the Queen, let her Save the UK alone ! She has the power to do so.

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@Zichi - I hope, the Queen does not sign into Law this bill from the house of Lords, as by doing so, she will be acknowledging what the Leftists have been saying all along, that she does not represent the people, has no power and is therefore a worthless institution which should be scrapped. If she signs it, I will agree with them.

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The UK was formerly part of the EU. So it provided some useful services and trade to other European nations that we accepted. By withdrawing from the EU, those nations needing the UK services will need to see other alternative sources (which may not be so simple), and in the meantime, the UK still provides those services albeit at a presumably higher taxed rate (under WTO rules). This should be manageable. We're not enacting a US-China Trade War, but a parting, for which there has been no precedent, and both sides need to work together to find something that works. When neither side can agree, starting from a position of nothing... somewhat helps as both sides want something from each other, as together they need to coexist.

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Q. Can the Queen revoke Life Peerages ?

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mmwkdw

To remove or revoke a Life peerage requires an act of parliament that will need to pass royal assent......

Her Majesty The Queen is not able to arbitrarily revoke a Life Peerage independently …..see below

Life Peerages Act 1958........

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/6-7/21

It is farcical to dwell on the asinine politically pompous posturings of Emmanuel Macron Government or Guy Verhofstadt.

The political and economic consequences/reality of a painful and contentious UK withdrawal define a far more nuanced picture, and express the true nature of where political influence lies.

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Is it just me, or does it feel like this whole Brexit idea is something that surprised everyone, but in the end will come to crashing end under a mountain of bureaucracy?

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