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Democratic U.S. Sen Kamala Harris jumps into 2020 White House race

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I will laugh my arse off of Harris wins the nomination and then hands Trump his arse in the general election.

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Easy pickings.

Middle America and soccer moms will shun her.

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Great! Great! Do it! Another sheep headed to the big house! Lol

Hope she wins, she’ll get steamrolled.

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Where she stands:

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Kamala_Harris.htm

no stance on jobs

weak on immigration

weak on technology regulation

no stance on defense

no stance on welfare or economy

No executive experience. Unelectable. Seems she is running in the hopes of getting some govt appointment should a Democrat win the Presidency.

https://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/120012/kamala-harris/ has this to say:

Kamala Harris has refused to provide voters with positions on key issues covered by the 2016 Political Courage Test, despite repeated requests

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A government by the people and for the people, that's crazy talk.

Cons have ZERO room to whine about finances. nearly ALL the national debt is from policies signed into law by the last 4 republican presidents.

And republicans just gave another 2+ trillions to the richest and large multi-national corporations.

Meanwhile, medicare-for-all saves us trillions - according to a study commissioned by the fascist (not socialist) koch brothers.

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Another intelligent voice offering voters more choices along the spectrum of political possibilities. 

Democratic Party: let the majority decide which candidate they prefer, NOT the PACS and your nabobs.

@burningbusMiddle America and soccer moms will shun her.

No doubt once again the intellectually vulnerable in the majority demographic will be marketed and targeted by the same propaganda and fake news spreading organizations that continue to ‘meddle’ in US and ‘western’ politics. 

Expect to see more youtube videos and fake news ala Pizzagate created by QAnon, the Internet Research Agency and other GRU backed bunds. Once again they’ll use media produced by US rightist organizations like the NRA, KKK and others to spread their propaganda, which will then be further spread by the Trump/rightist media like Fox’news’, infowars, Breitbart, Limbaugh, Coulter, RT/Sputnik, etc.

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Given that the current president had no realistic policy on anything except to undo what his predecessors had done, leave things, and witter on about a wall, I don't think his supporters are in a position to complain that Ms Harris is less capable than he is. I wish her well.

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Another intelligent voice offering voters more choices along the spectrum of political possibilities. 

Like what? I can distribute better socialism? You don’t need a PhD for that.

Democratic Party: let the majority decide which candidate they prefer, NOT the PACS and your nabobs.

I hope they pick her, please!!!

No doubt once again the intellectually vulnerable in the majority demographic will be marketed and targeted by the same propaganda and fake news spreading organizations that continue to ‘meddle’ in US and ‘western’ politics. 

Expect to see more youtube videos and fake news ala Pizzagate created by QAnon, the Internet Research Agency and other GRU backed bunds. Once again they’ll use media produced by US rightist organizations like the NRA, KKK and others to spread their propaganda, which will then be further spread by the Trump/rightist media like Fox’news’, infowars, Breitbart, Limbaugh, Coulter, RT/Sputnik, etc.

Well, if it worked for liberals, so if they don’t like it or worried about it, they should have thought about that before, so who knows and if it does happen, deal with it. We did.

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Thinking Kamala Harris would be a good president is like thinking Joseph Mengele was a primary care physician. Haven't we learned from the debacle of Obama's identity politics presidency which lead to the election of Donald Trump. Whether it's 2020 or 2024, for Democrats to win they need to focus on what's important to AMERICANS, not illegal aliens. There are tens of thousands of Americans that are homeless, veterans sleeping on the streets, a failing education system and the only thing Kamala and her ilk are concerned about is protecting illiterate aliens coming across our southern boarder. The Democrats need to be reminded they were hired to work for Americans...

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she’ll get steamrolled.

Trump barely squeaked by in the following states. Look at where his approval ratings are now compared to January, 2017.

Wisconsin -- down 18 points

Michigan -- down 17 points

Florida -- down 17 points

Pennsylvania -- down 14 points

Look also at what happened in the midterm election, and at who people blame for the government shutdown (hint: it's not Kamala Harris).

Looking forward to a debate between Harris and Trump.

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Harris hates White Christian males and any woman who support them. She supports racist affirmative action policies. She is humorless, mean, and apt to accuse those people she hates ( see above) of crimes that are unsupported by all available evidence. As such, she the perfect Dem nominee for 2020. There is an excellent chance that she will get the nomination and win the presidency. This will sustain the current status quo in which half the nation hates the President and the other half support the President in cult like fashion. The hate will continue.

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She is humorless, mean, and apt to accuse those people she hates ( see above) of crimes that are unsupported by all available evidence. 

Ah! So she'll continue the current president's style of "governing"!

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Harris hates White Christian males and any woman who support them. She supports racist affirmative action policies.

hahahahahaha Harris' husband is, wait for it, WHITE. I guess that means she hates herself for supporting a white male? ;) Seriously, do your HW before you spout off.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/01/kamala-harris-husband-douglas-emhoff-married/

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Considering her parents were not natural born U.S. citizens in the 1960s (having first come here on student visas), she ought to consider running as America's first Anchor Baby to seek the presidency. That would be Harris' best (and only) chance to sway us undecided voters in the flyover states to cast our ballots for her.

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Trump hates anybody who isn't a white Christian and thinks woman are sex toys. He supports racist affirmative action policies. He is humorless, mean, and apt to accuse those people he hates ( see above) of crimes that are unsupported by all available evidence. As such, he the worst nominee for any time ever. There is a small chance that he will not be arrested and continue his presidency. This will sustain the current status quo in which more than half the nation hates the President and the remaining support the President in cult like fashion. The hate will continue.

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Maria, I agree.

But I hoped all those smart Democrats to have learned from the Trump, no-political-experience, mistake.

Presidents should be selected from state Governors or US Senators with a few terms of service. They should be centric leaders inside their party, not on the far left or far right.

Agreed?

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Presidents should be selected from state Governors or US Senators with a few terms of service. They should be centric leaders inside their party, not on the far left or far right.

Hogwash. Obama was a first term senator when ran and won the presidency. I couldn't care less if a candidate isn't a centrist. What does matter is having a lick of common sense and a moral compass, both of which Trump lacks.

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WolfpackToday  09:03 am JST

Harris hates White Christian males and any woman who support them

The above an excellent example of polar reasoning. Or a flat-out, total distortion used to further polarize, divide and enflame.

@wolfpack The hate will continue.

As evidenced by the above.

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Considering her parents were not natural born U.S. citizens in the 1960s (having first come here on student visas), she ought to consider running as America's first Anchor Baby to seek the presidency. That would be Harris' best (and only) chance to sway us undecided voters in the flyover states to cast our ballots for her.

Essential racist banter, of course. I don't even know enough to support Harris but, this is basically white supremacy banter and a poor excuse to dismiss a vote for her...Nice of you to show us your white hood @Texas A

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@bas4 better socialism?

By 'better socialism', do you mean industrial farms getting federal subsidies, big war industries getting richer through government contracts, big war industries claiming to be in the 'private sector' yet profiting from the public's taxes, government 'contractors' paid by a 'private' company funded by the government, including 'private contractors' working for Armed Forces media and its subsidiaries?

Or it could be in a reductionist's world, the world of the binary thinkers, the world where there's only opposing poles, there's only capitalism or socialism, a continuation of the 'reasoning' expressed by those who say you're for Putin/Trump or you're a 'liberal'.

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Any idiotic conspiracy trash in the National Enquirer about these candidates?

It’s about time for Trump do some reading.

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Latina: Ah! So she'll continue the current president's style of "governing"!

Most likely- yes.

takeda: hahahahahaha Harris' husband is, wait for it, WHITE.

Justice Thomas’s wife is - here it comes - WHITE. Does that mean he isn’t an Uncle Tom? It’s funny because that’s what black Dems call him. The fact is Harris supports racialized government policies. That means she is a racist.

Deadforgood: The hate will continue.

Exactly.

PTownsend: The above an excellent example of polar reasoning. Or a flat-out, total distortion used to further polarize, divide and enflame.

That is the current state of America. Divided and inflamed.

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Deadforgood: The hate will continue.

wolfpack: Exactly.

So you support hate rather than finding a leader that could help repair the nation and stop hate? I'm not saying Harris is the right pick, she probably isn't. But insisting that Trump, who will continue to push his hate inducing political agenda, should remain president isn't helping your argument much...

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@wolfpack That is the current state of America. Divided and inflamed.

Because the US is 'divided and inflamed' does not justify pouring more gas on the fires.

I assume the intentions of those who purposely distort truths is to further divide and enflame.

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Right on cue, the low info talking head geniuses on TV panel shows within the liberal media industrial complex are already shrieking “racist” at the top of their lungs if anyone dares to commit the unforgivable crime of challenging Harris' eligibility. Unfortunately for them, that pesky little part of our Constitution (aka, the 14th Amendment) very specifically stipulates “natural born Citizen” and its exact meaning: Namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time in their life.

Also the term, “born of parents" is included in the 14th. A lot of casual Constitutional scholars miss that word “parents”. It is going to be a real gotcha for Harris.

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Obama was part white, part back and the White only Party's worst nightmare.

Harris is part black, part brown and a woman , the WOPs must be having fits just thinking about her coming to power.

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@texasA

No, you are allowed to challenge Harris's political stance of course...but you sound pretty silly trying to argue her citizenship. Birthright citizenship still exists in the 14th amendment, I guess you skipped that part...Or maybe you're just looking for a reason to justify your racist ideals...using the derogative term "anchor baby" is racist too btw. Nobody screaming here, just calling you out for what you are. You sound a little bit like Steve King, “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”

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Justice Thomas’s wife is - here it comes - WHITE.

We're not talking about Justice Thomas. The claim that Harris is racist is highly suspect given that her husband is white.

The fact is Harris supports racialized government policies. That means she is a racist.

You've made this claim several times. Which "racialized" policies does she support?

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2020 is shaping up to be a reboot of 1988. Not a single Dem who has thus far declared has a even a minute's international policy experience.

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"Looking forward to a debate between Harris and Trump" Personally, I think the Dems should simply refuse to engage in any sort of "debate" or dialogue with him, and instead use the media and the web to present their case for election directly to the people, bypassing Trump, denying him airtime, and making him play whack a mole responding to their manifesto.

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Thanks for the reminder, Tex! Harris was born in Oakland, California.

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I think Democrats are going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2020. If you look at exit polling for the 2016 election, it's clear that Democrats have already have locked down the minority vote. There are no untapped minorities who voted for Trump and are now going to be swayed to vote Democrat because of Kamala Harris. Trump's strongest demographics in 2016 were white people, men, non-graduates, and upper middle class families. Which part of Trumps base is going to be chipped away at by nominating people like Harris or Warren? If the Democrats were smart they would nominate someone with crossover appeal, like another Bill Clinton. But that just seems impossible in this day and age.

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Deadforgood: So you support hate rather than finding a leader that could help repair the nation and stop hate? 

No. I just don’t see any hope in either party. MLK’s attempt to hold America to its founding principles failed. The American government, even in the immediate aftermath of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, refused to pursue color blind policies. In fact, the Democrat party is currently in the midst of a radical shift against that ideal. Politicians like Harris have rationalized themselves into believing that the only way to pursue equality is through ever greater degrees of differentiation. Identity politics is a cancer on American society that will take decades to exhaust itself. In the end every American regardless of race or any other demographic aspects will rightfully be able to claim victims status.

But insisting that Trump, who will continue to push his hate inducing political agenda, should remain president isn't helping your argument much...

I didn’t vote for Trump. But when it comes to race relations he is much better than any Dem - hands down. He does not address the issue of race the way Dems want him to. But it wasn’t Trump who had his picture taken with a prominent American racist. Trump didn’t go to a racialized/supremacist church for 17 years. Trump hasn’t butted in on local law enforcement cases multiple times and always wrongly assumed that the guy who was the opposite race as himself was at fault.

That’s Harris as well - Justice Kavanaugh to her was like the Catholic High School kids at the Lincoln Memorial this past weekend. She took one look at his melanin challenged visage and instantly proclaimed him guilty - didn’t matter what unsubstantiated charges were thrown at him. That is America now - Harris is perfect for the times. For that reason I believe she is well positioned to become president when the political pendulum inevitably swings back in the opposite direction.

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 she ought to consider running as America's first Anchor Baby to seek the presidency

A prime example of conservatives repugnantly dehumanizing those with whom they disagree.

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First-term Democratic Senator Kamala Harris of California, a rising party star and outspoken critic of President Donald Trump's immigration policies,

Harris' campaign will focus on reducing the high cost of living with a middle-class tax credit, pursuing immigration and criminal justice changes and a Medicare-for-all healthcare system, aides said. She has said she will reject corporate political action committee donations.

Just those few lines tells American voters what they are in for if she is elected, California has increased taxes so much there is a flight of taxpayers from California so that "tax credit" means the doers both companies and individuals will be paying even more, immigration policies equal open boarders, the Justice system will become a revolving door, and that Medicare for everyone is gonna send the Country broke.

plasticmonkeyToday  08:48 am JST

Look also at what happened in the midterm election, and at who people blame for the government shutdown (hint: it's not Kamala Harris).

What Trump picking up seats in the Senate with only a small loss in the House both Obama and Clinton lost seats in both the House and Senate.

Looking forward to a debate between Harris and Trump.

We all are - Trump tore the all of the Republican Candidates and Hillary Clinton to shreds.

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California has increased taxes so much there is a flight of taxpayers from California

The flight from California stems from the high price of housing.

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Trump barely squeaked by in the following states. Look at where his approval ratings are now compared to January, 2017.

Wisconsin -- down 18 points

Michigan -- down 17 points

Florida -- down 17 points

Pennsylvania -- down 14 points

Ok, and? These were already Blue States to begin with, you guys always think you’re so slick, no one anticipated Trump was going to get those States and even though he did, there’s always a chance they can flip, these are the things you need to consider and they have, but give the fact he polls well with Republicans and now moving up with Blacks and Hispanics slowly, it won’t be easy for any candidate, especially these loose ends and this is the thing and something liberals can never understand, now I’m not saying he’s unbeatable, but with the with the Marxist clown car these people are driving add to that they dwell in the socialist hemisphere. The economy is everything and no matter how pretty or young Harris might be, big businesses which I’m sure you are aware by no steer the country and if the economy stays on this trajectory, it’s going to be real hard to make a case, Hillary couldn’t and the way the Democrats have acting, all loony and out of control, talking more and more about socialism is not going to get this corporation supporting her or any other socialist Democrat. If there is uncertainty in the market big businesses always get nervous around Democrats during a general election.

Look also at what happened in the midterm election, and at who people blame for the government shutdown (hint: it's not Kamala Harris).

Gotta admit, her charisma (if you want tocall it that) is a tad slight better than Hillary.

Looking forward to a debate between Harris and Trump.

Ohhhh, me too, me too. ROFL

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@bass

These were already Blue States to begin with, you guys always think you’re so slick, no one anticipated Trump was going to get those States and even though he did, there’s always a chance they can flip, these are the things you need to consider and they have, but give the fact he polls well with Republicans and now moving up with Blacks and Hispanics slowly, it won’t be easy for any candidate, especially these loose ends and this is the thing and something liberals can never understand, now I’m not saying he’s unbeatable, but with the with the Marxist clown car these people are driving add to that they dwell in the socialist hemisphere. The economy is everything and no matter how pretty or young Harris might be, big businesses which I’m sure you are aware by no steer the country and if the economy stays on this trajectory, it’s going to be real hard to make a case, Hillary couldn’t and the way the Democrats have acting, all loony and out of control, talking more and more about socialism is not going to get this corporation supporting her or any other socialist Democrat.

Two very long run on sentences...Not sure if you're trying to be misleading or confusing.

Moving up with blacks and hispanics?? You mean the Russian blacks and hispanics?

I dunno man, Trump's economy might be pretty dark very soon...Big businesses know all about Trump's ability to bankrupt himself over and over again. They didn't support Trump because of his "expertise on the economy" (cause he has none). They supported Trump because he promised to sacrifice the middle/lower class for the sake of big business and making the few that matter to him rich. Now he needs a wall to save face with American steel companies or he will lose their support. He's probably already promised them and started working on contracts to build it.

I'm also not sure what you mean by liberals driving a marxist clown car. In fact, I don't see republicans doing it either outside of Trump. He seems to be the only one trying to get rid of capitalism or American Democracy.

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Two very long run on sentences...Not sure if you're trying to be misleading or confusing.

Neither

Moving up with blacks and hispanics?? You mean the Russian blacks and hispanics?

What?

I dunno man, Trump's economy might be pretty dark very soon...Big businesses know all about Trump's ability to bankrupt himself over and over again. They didn't support Trump because of his "expertise on the economy" (cause he has none).

That’s not what the economist are saying or the business investors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

They supported Trump because he promised to sacrifice the middle/lower class for the sake of big business and making the few that matter to him rich. Now he needs a wall to save face with American steel companies or he will lose their support. He's probably already promised them and started working on contracts to build it.

Liberal Comedy hour?

There's more. The rate of GDP growth was decelerating in Obama's last year. It went from 2.3% in Q2, to 1.9% in Q3 to 1.8% in Q4 of 2016. Under Trump, GDP growth has averaged 2.9%. It was 4.2% last quarter and might be higher in the current one.

The stock market also was stuck in neutral the year before the November 2016 elections. The Dow is up by some 45% since then.

Real median family income didn't budge from August 2015 to November 2016, according to Sentier Research. It's up more than 4% since Trump came into office. Wages are on the upswing.

In Obama's last year, unemployment rate remained basically unchanged — it was 4.9% in Jan 2016, and 4.8% when Trump took office in Jan. 2017. Now it's down to 3.9%

We could go on.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/

I'm also not sure what you mean by liberals driving a marxist clown car. In fact, I don't see republicans doing it either outside of Trump. He seems to be the only one trying to get rid of capitalism or American Democracy.

By promoting small government and self-reliance? I see......

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@bass

Moving up with blacks and hispanics?? You mean the Russian blacks and hispanics?

What?

This is where you post a poll, but you won't because you always talk about how you don't trust polls...So no clue what you are talking about.

More right wing biased news sites. First thing that comes up when searching IBD, "questionable right wing news". Glad you were able to copy and paste from it, likely without reading it to thoroughly.

Nothing on Washington Posts page notes Trump as the catalyst for economic growth...

I'm not saying Trump is a marxist, but his goal of shutting down foreign job positions, border taxes, etc do come pretty close to some of the marxist ideologies, not to mention already tested and failed U.S. strategies such as the NIRA.

Can you do something other than copy and paste a response next time?

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This is where you post a poll, but you won't because you always talk about how you don't trust polls...So no clue what you are talking about.

This is very true, but when it comes to the likability of a President, particularly this one, yes, I am, because all the pollsters and pundits got it all wrong in 2016. Now anything is always possible, but generally speaking there are a lot of things to consider when polling, race, gender, liberal versus conservative versus Republican versus Democrat, you have the independence, what age bracket, women and men, which part of the US. They never give us the breakdown considering the anger and hostile behavior and animosity the media has shown towards this President, can’t help but be skeptical, you may not be, but I am.

More right wing biased news sites.

I could say the same about the overwhelming liberal leaning left sites.

First thing that comes up when searching IBD, "questionable right wing news". Glad you were able to copy and paste from it, likely without reading it to thoroughly.

Sure, just like most of the liberal news is more than often questionable.

Nothing on Washington Posts page notes Trump as the catalyst for economic growth... 

Thats not only the WP, take your pick, literally any financially economist, glad to send you more.

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This is very true, but when it comes to the likability of a President, particularly this one, yes, I am, because all the pollsters and pundits got it all wrong in 2016

Some pundits got it right. You got it all wrong. You wrote Trump off as the leader of a “lunatic fringe” and then said Clinton would win.

There are a lot of things to consider when polling*

Really? Bass, you educate us all here. We had no idea.

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If only 35% of white American women voted for Hillary Clinton costing her the election,you know damn well Kamala has no chance of winning the presidency as a black female.Never say never? Well I'm saying she'll never.Ain't gonna happen.

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And she doesn't have children of her own.Another no-no with women.

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Some pundits got it right.

Not the majority though.

If only 35% of white American women voted for Hillary Clinton costing her the election,you know damn well Kamala has no chance of winning the presidency as a black female.Never say never? Well I'm saying she'll never.Ain't gonna happen.

Double Bingo!

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using the derogative term "anchor baby" is racist too btw.

Anchor baby has ZERO to do with race. It is certainly anti-immigrant, which is different AND also unacceptable. That is part of the conservative group that I dislike very much. It is like these people forgot that their parents or grandparents were "anchor babies" too.

If she was born inside the USA and is over 35 yrs old, she can run for Prez or VP. Period. Move on anyone trying to make something about that.

Race has nothing at all to do with qualifications

Not having children is a consideration, though I wouldn't say clearly positive or clearly negative.

I think her biggest liability is being from California and living in that liberal bubble. Liberal Californians seem to be about 20% more liberal than other liberals in the fly-over states.

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Harris, a former California state attorney general, has become popular with liberal activists for her tough questioning of Trump administration appointees and officials, including Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh

It's despicable how she treated Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.

I will laugh my arse off of Harris wins the nomination and then hands Trump his arse in the general election

Bwahahahahahaha! I don't think she will get the nomination, but if she does, she will lose bigly to Trump.

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Thought we weren’t doing this anymore, basing jobs and opportunities on how people look

who looks most like the party's increasingly diverse base of young, female and minority voters.

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Wow, well I guess this conversation is over now.

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It's despicable how she treated Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings.

Did she draw an obscene picture on his forehead while he was unconscious?

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@bassfunk

“I hope they pick her, please!!!”

O’Rourke-Waters in 2020.

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@Jimizo

”Did she draw an obscene picture on his forehead while he was unconscious?”

What DID she do while he was unconscious?

O’Rourke-Waters in 2020

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I guess I will just have to go to bed without a liberal explaining to me why it’s ok in the year 2019 to give opportunities based on what someone “looks like”.

That used to be called “racist” but the meaning of that word has been totally made meaningless due to misuse for political purposes.

Sad, really thought we had progressed beyond this “you look like me so I support you” model.

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Wolfpack: But when it comes to race relations he is much better than any Dem - hands down.

Of course. I mean he only said that a Latino judge wasn't qualified to judge him since he's white. And he pardoned Arpaio, a man guilt of stripping Constitutional rights from Latinos. Much improved over any Dem.

He lied when he said he saw tens of thousands of Muslims cheering during 9/11 to make them look bad. He routinely tries to scare his base by saying Muslims are coming to the US via the southern border, which is a lie. He retweets disinformation and lies from others. Solid on that front.

He's said nothing about the black community other than 1) they live in filth and 2) their unemployment is low under him. And let's not forget his history is discrimination in housing and his actions for the Central Park 5, now conveniently ignored with the MAGA hat kid that he's defending.

All of that must be very natural in your circle if it doesn't register on your radar.

This election is about culture vs. Constitution. If you're on the culture side, you don't mind Latinos being pulled over for being dark skinned for a citizenship test. You want that. If you're on the Constitution side you want to protect the rights of every American.

The culture side supports things like Steve King, tiki torches, white "culture" rallies, a shutdown on Muslims, a shutdown on refugees, and lots of walls. You don't want things to change and you feel anxiety of losing position or status in the country.

They hold votes to remove a Muslim county official like they did in Texas (Shahid Shafi), trying to out him because it's just too unthinkable that a Muslim could be a real American legislator. The Constitution crowd supports things like banning religious tests from office.

The culture crowd supports refusing service to gay people. The Constitution crowd supports treating everyone equally under the law.

The culture crowd supports voter suppression laws engineered to make it more difficult for minorities to vote. The Constitution crown wants the greatest number of people to participate in our democracy regardless of skin color.

That's really what it's about. Bass supports discrimination against blacks as logical. Blacklabel still says he doubts Obama was really born in America. Texas coming right out of the gate with anchor babies, and you drop the ridiculous claim that Trump is better for race relations than Democrats.

It's all about culture and loyalty. You supported rights under the Constitution until it comes up against your view of culture, or how America should be, then you wipe your rear with it.

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Yeah, Kamala is an example of starting out on 3rd base (a women of color) and thinking she hit a home run. She went to Howard University where your admitted if you have a deep suntan and Hastings College of Law (a fall back school if you can't get into DeVry University) which is not even the top 50 law schools. I hope the Dems can do better than her; at least make the 2020 race a little interesting...

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And he pardoned Arpaio, a man guilt of stripping Constitutional rights from Latinos. Much improved over any Dem.

Oh, stop. Arpaio did what he was hired to do and that was uphold the law, and anyone breaking the law was justly incarcerated. Why is it you always focus on White people, but you give all minorities a pass, you always excuse their crimes, but if a White peace off stops them or pulls them over and they happen to be a minority, then according to you, they have to be racist, give me a break. If you don’t want the cops to lock you up or deport you, then do any crimes or give them a reason and sneaking into the country illegally, I would hope the police and ICE would do their jobs and promptly deport these people.

He lied when he said he saw tens of thousands of Muslims cheering during 9/11 to make them look bad.

What do you think about the media lying and outright viciously destroying those catholic boys that were staging a peaceful protest and the media jumped to conclusions and labeled these guys a racist before the video came out which showed the exact opposite. That doesn’t make you angry? It ticks me off to No end that these people are so trashy that they can’t wait to get clicks and will do anything to get a story, even if that means lying on a bunch of Catholic Highschool kids. Disgusting!

He routinely tries to scare his base by saying Muslims are coming to the US via the southern border, which is a lie. He retweets disinformation and lies from others. Solid on that front.

But liberals don’t want to talk about this...ever. Why is that?

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/08/14/20-bangladeshi-nationals-arrested-after-crossing-mexican-border-into-texas/

He's said nothing about the black community other than 1) they live in filth and 2) their unemployment is low under him. And let's not forget his history is discrimination in housing and his actions for the Central Park 5, now conveniently ignored with the MAGA hat kid that he's defending.

Why is it that the Democrats still do nothing to fix the black communities, why is it all the black leaders are incognito? Why is it that these black leaders embrace and respect a flat out racist like Farrakhan? Why is it that minorities continue to vote for a party that does absolutely nothing for them or their communities?

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Harris/AOC 2020!

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This election is about culture vs. Constitution. If you're on the culture side, you don't mind Latinos being pulled over for being dark skinned for a citizenship test. You want that. If you're on the Constitution side you want to protect the rights of every American.

I’m sorry, but that just didn’t make ANY sense whatsoever. If you’re for the constitution, you support upholding the law and that means, support securing our borders and remove lawbreakers and people that illegally cross and put a burden on our society, we always want anyone to come to our grat country, but HAS to be legal.

The culture side supports things like Steve King, tiki torches, white "culture" rallies, a shutdown on Muslims, a shutdown on refugees, and lots of walls. You don't want things to change and you feel anxiety of losing position or status in the country.

For the minuscule tiny few idiots that barely get a blip on the radar, could be. You can probably count these people on your fingers.

They hold votes to remove a Muslim county official like they did in Texas (Shahid Shafi), trying to out him because it's just too unthinkable that a Muslim could be a real American legislator. The Constitution crowd supports things like banning religious tests from office.

Uh-huh...nice try...

https://www.osv.com/OSVNewsweekly/Article/TabId/535/ArtMID/13567/ArticleID/26726/Michigan-Catholics-Muslims-model-coexistence.aspx

The culture crowd supports refusing service to gay people. The Constitution crowd supports treating everyone equally under the law.

They are.

The culture crowd supports voter suppression laws engineered to make it more difficult for minorities to vote. The Constitution crown wants the greatest number of people to participate in our democracy regardless of skin color.

Voter suppression is a manufactured lie as much as Liberals say, the border myth is manufactured, but the bigger question is, if Dems are so concerned about that why don’t they support voter ID? They claim they are for border security, if that’s so and they are so worried, if they support and have voter ID they can easily document any future allegations and would be able to prove it as well as to easily combat it, if it actually does exist.

That's really what it's about. Bass supports discrimination against blacks as logical. Blacklabel still says he doubts Obama was really born in America. Texas coming right out of the gate with anchor babies, and you drop the ridiculous claim that Trump is better for race relations than Democrats.

No, we support the rule of law, no exceptions, preferential treatment, especially if you are a law breaker and if you enter our country or any country illegally, you should be deported and or even pay a hefty fine or incarcerated.

It's all about culture and loyalty. You supported rights under the Constitution until it comes up against your view of culture, or how America should be, then you wipe your rear with it.

Yes, I hope Democrats and liberals will one day try and respect the constitution, I hold out hope, but not that much....

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No more Clintons, no more Bushes, and most of all, NO MORE TRUMPS!

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If this is what gets Democrats excited, it's looking more and more like Trump 2020...

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Superlib: This election is about culture vs. Constitution. 

Yes, you are correct. As uncouth as Trump certainly can be, he is not pursuing any policies based on race. Travel restrictions are targeted at a fraction of countries that support terrorism. Immigration policies he is pursuing are targeted against illegal immigrants- not law abiding applicants for immigration into the US. Trumps about about the judge is based on the judges affiliation with the racist group La Raza.

The Constitution says nothing about affirmative action. Yet that is a systemic form of institutional discrimination that has been place for nearly as long as Jim Crow. Affirmative action, infused throughout government institutions and private entities, does not provide for equal protection under the law. It specifically provides for racial and sex discrimination under the color of law.

Anyone who says they believe in the Constitution and who claims to believe in equal protection under the law cannot support Harris and the Democrat party’s racialized party platform. Add to that Harris’s support for for the anti-Semitic women’s march movement and you can see that the Senator has some serious baggage that she is carrying around.

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Except that's the exact opposite of what he did, which is why he was held in contempt by the judge for not following the law by unjustifiably incarcerating Latinos.

Another weak argument, so basically, you’re for breaking the law and you think we shouldn’t have borders and just allow everyone to come in? Even Mexico is not THAT stupid.

 Is that why dozens of GOP laws have been thrown out of court with some judges specifically referencing the racist intent? Must be 

Racist? When I drive through black cities and see the crime, drugs and despair, I do see racism how the Democrats can live with themselves for what they have done to these people. I think Trump has been doing a good job with stacking the courts with more conservative judges so that doesn’t happen, looking forward to the future.

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They're just trying to repeat 'I'm With Her', forgetting how that went the first time. You've got to target more than women and minorities. You've got to speak to the people who voted for Trump because they felt they had nowhere else to turn. Those are the voters that put him in office and the left is still thinking they can win without their support.

Good luck with that.

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You've got to speak to the people who voted for Trump because they felt they had nowhere else to turn.

Democrats like Senator Harris have nothing but contempt for people who do not follow in lock step with identity politics. So yes, as bad as Trump can be they have no where else to turn.

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Democrats like Senator Harris have nothing but contempt for people who do not follow in lock step with identity politics. So yes, as bad as Trump can be they have no where else to turn.

How's that saying go... 'Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it'

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Thought we weren’t doing this anymore, basing jobs and opportunities on how people look

We aren't. You are just intentionally mis-understanding what is meant by "look" in this article. It means she represents the women of the Democratic Party. Not sure why you need that explained.

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Another weak argument, so basically, you’re for breaking the law and you think we shouldn’t have borders and just allow everyone to come in? Even Mexico is not THAT stupid.

Nobody thinks we shouldn't have borders and should allow everyone in. Nobody.

Your concern for the rule of law rings hollow considering you constantly say Trump can simply pardon his family or people if they are convicted of a crime. You're actually proud of that, which means you are okay with people breaking the law as long as they are on your side.

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Nobody thinks we shouldn't have borders and should allow everyone in. Nobody.

Well, that's not exactly true.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/07/31/open-borders-help-economy-combat-illegal-immigration-column/862185002/

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I know nothing about this sentator, but I’m enjoying watching the pubs freak out every time another Democratic candidate is announced.

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Nobody thinks we shouldn't have borders and should allow everyone in. Nobody.

Well, that's not exactly true.

You beat me to it... Its really funny when people try to say this, when at the same time so many folks on the left are actually suggesting open borders.

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the same time so many folks on the left are actually suggesting open borders.

Only the extremists. We need to start ignoring those on both ends. They are a tiny but loud minority.

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You beat me to it... Its really funny when people try to say this, when at the same time so many folks on the left are actually suggesting open borders.

You do realize that the particular opinion piece was written by a director at the Cato Institute, a very libertarian (ie right wing) organization, right?

The term 'left wing' does NOT mean 'whatever the GOP in general isn't for'

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Well, that's not exactly true.

I stand corrected.

See how easy it is to admit when one is incorrect?

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Nobody thinks we shouldn't have borders and should allow everyone in. Nobody.

So why aren’t the Democrats not doing anything about it? Lazy? Out of sight out of mind?

Your concern for the rule of law rings hollow considering you constantly say Trump can simply pardon his family or people if they are convicted of a crime. You're actually proud of that, which means you are okay with people breaking the law as long as they are on your side.

Ok, well, that’s your opinion, I already told you where I stand and as I do see this as a witch hunt, if the corrupt cops abuse their authority and would try to recommend prison for something frivolous as the way the accusations look as of now, yes, I would want him to use his presidential powers and pardon them. Democrats consistently and constantly overlook crimes their sides make, so there’s no difference.

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@David Varnes

You do realize that the particular opinion piece was written by a director at the Cato Institute, a very libertarian (ie right wing) organization, right?

The term 'left wing' does NOT mean 'whatever the GOP in general isn't for'

I wasn't referring to that article. It's a pretty common thing to hear. It's usually accompanied by cries from the left to abolish ICE because they've been once again mistaken for the Border Patrol.

@Chip Star

I stand corrected.

See how easy it is to admit when one is incorrect?

You and I don't agree on much of anything, but you never seem as 'extreme' as some here.

@Strangeland

Only the extremists. We need to start ignoring those on both ends. They are a tiny but loud minority.

This hits the nail on the head.

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So why aren’t the Democrats not doing anything about it? Lazy? Out of sight out of mind?

They keep trying, you're just too partisan to admit it. You guys have been for open borders since 2013 when you killed to immigration reform bills out of the senate. (If you want to engage in hyperbole about Dems being for open borders, so will I about cons wanting ilopen borders.)

Ok, well, that’s your opinion, I already told you where I stand and as I do see this as a witch hunt, if the corrupt cops abuse their authority

There are no corrupt cops. Or do you think they control the grand juries and juries also? Your lack of concern for the rule of law when it comes to those you disagree with is painfully obvious to everyone on these threads.

You and I don't agree on much of anything, but you never seem as 'extreme' as some here.

I'm interested in the truth and facts that elucidate what that is. When someone demonstrates that I'm incorrect, I chose to learn from it instead of dig my heels in in favor of continued ignorance.

As you noted, Stranger hit the nail squarely on its head with a framing hammer.

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Trying to do what? Being lazy?

you're just too partisan to admit it. You guys have been for open borders since 2013 when you killed to immigration reform bills out of the senate. (If you want to engage in hyperbole about Dems being for open borders, so will I about cons wanting ilopen borders.)

Because it didn’t cover the immediate halt to ending chain migration or the visa lottery program which has been the cornerstone trademark for Democrats for years and years. With Democrats it’s either a little bit or nothing and the Republicans weren’t going to go for that it’s either “all” or nothing. And so what are the Democrats doing now? What specific details did the outline that they’re going to do to stop this illegal influx?

There are no corrupt cops.

I know it’s early morning, but....

https://www.bostonherald.com/2018/06/17/howie-carr-your-sad-corrupt-fbi-now-and-forever/

https://nypost.com/2018/07/14/peter-strzoks-arrogance-is-the-product-of-a-corrupt-fbi

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Because it didn’t cover the immediate halt

But, but, but . . .

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It's sad, but expected, to see the comments of what comes down to racial and gender prejudice. Who's fooling who, here? All the Trump camp who are against Kamala Harris see a black woman, and that sets 'em off to scurry for reasons and justification why she's no good.

The moral blindness is indicative to know so many are wrong. When Trump backs up white boys taunting diversity, his minions will follow. But, of course, they're not racists in their misguided minds.

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You want more Trump? Because this is how you get more Trump.

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Superlib. Except that's the exact opposite of what he did, which is why he was held in contempt by the judge for not following the law by unjustifiably incarcerating Latinos.

bass: Another weak argument, so basically, you’re for breaking the law and you think we shouldn’t have borders and just allow everyone to come in? Even Mexico is not THAT stupid.

Reality isn't a "weak argument." That's what happened. A judge ordered him to stop profiling and randomly pulling over Latonis because of their skin color and Arpaio told his officers to keep doing it anyway. So he was found in contempt and was going to face jail time.

 superlib: Is that why dozens of GOP laws have been thrown out of court with some judges specifically referencing the racist intent? Must be 

bass: Racist?

Yes, racist. Many judges have thrown out the cases due to the obvious intent of disenfranchising minority voters. Your ID laws are one thing, but the smaller laws they pass out of the spotlight, like making it harder to register, is an obvious attempt to reduce the number of people who vote. The GOP loses in court all the time.

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She supports racist affirmative action policies. She is humorless, mean, and apt to accuse those people she hates ( see above) of crimes that are unsupported by all available evidence. As such, she the perfect Dem nominee for 2020.

wow she sound like the mirror imgae of Trump , except shes brown female and has a brain.

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Seems she is a typical politician: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/01/harris-campaign-kickoff-claims/ a little loose with the facts. Still 1,000x better than Trump.

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