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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2017.Facebook says likely Russian-based operation funded U.S. ads with political message
By Joseph Menn and David Ingram SAN FRANCISCO©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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CrazyJoe
Why are we dinking around with this waste-of-time Voter Fraud Commission, and not ensuring our election system is safe in time for 2018 election cycle? The federal and states' electoral commissions are not taking this seriously. And this ridiculous Administration, and Congressional GOP are complicit, and don't want to get to the bottom of it!
Blacklabel
15,000 more people than live in Chicago voted in Chicago. Hillary got more votes in Chicago in 2016 than Obama did in 2012. The people in charge of elections in Chicago have refused to adequately explain how thi can be or other than say that the data is inaccurate (while not providing updated data). That is why we are 'dinking around' with this Voter Fraud Commission. So why are we dinking around with who bought ads on Facebook? or with DACA which suddenly has priority over anything else?
I also want to see something done to ensure our 2018 election cycle is safe. So that next time Trump or a Republican wins, the Dems wont be able to not accept the results and claim interference. Have each state comply with the Voter Fraud Commission and also spend some time looking into cybersecurity and everything should be fine.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
So, not only did Chicago have a 100% voter turn out, they actually had a 15,000 more votes than residents? Must be some very patriotic illegal immigrants, huh?;) seriously though, I'd love some more information on this, I can't seem to find anything on it.
Blacklabel
Here ya go:
http://chicagocitywire.com/stories/511195461-election-board-lists-more-general-election-votes-than-voters-in-chicago
And who they voted for:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/numbers/president-vice-president-every-neighborhood-map-election-results-voting-general-primary-illinois
Nice distraction instead to focus on $150,000 that may have been spent on Facebook ads by the 'Russians' when over 1 billion was spent on ads everywhere else. Even Facebook said it found no link between the Russian-purchased advertising and any specific presidential campaign. So this is a story, why? Cause it is another chance to put the word 'Russia' in an election headline?
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
That's not what you said. That's not more people voting than living in Chicago. Nice try.
Civitas Sine Suffragio
Whilst I think the growth of Facebook is a curse, and its users the biggest bunch of narcissistic time wasters and idiots on the planet, the Russians would be fools not to take advantage of the free propaganda opportunities offered by such a sloppy and amateurish setup. Oh, and only a fool would think the West does not do similar things - officially or unofficially.
Blacklabel
Ok so what does more votes than voters mean then?
Blacklabel
I clumsily explained that. More people voted in Chicago than people who live in Chicago (that were registered to vote). Better? The technicality of my lack of perfect explanation doesnt invalidate the argument that 16.000 more people voted than should have been able to.
clamenza
Blacklabel is obviously referring to registered voters.
Good lord..
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Which is specifically why I asked about that. Kind of hard to believe. There is a clear difference.
What you seemed to have missed was this:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/05/chicago-reported-thousands-more-votes-than-voters-in-2016-gop-official-says.html
But yeah, its all just a huge conspiracy. Everyone is secretly, but not so secretly really, out to get Trump.
By the way, there are frequently discrepancies that are later rectified. This is why people shouldn't rely on exit polls for example.
Blacklabel
I saw that of course. So I just take their word for it when the only data they have made available to date shows 16,000 not 30? Why have they not made the updated data available to the people who asked for it?
Maybe you didnt see that part? They never mentioned until he pointed out 3 months after the election that the numbers dont match. Then suddenly it was 'incomplete' data that no one was working on to make 'complete' until NOW.
10 months later and still not rectified. When is 'later'? maybe 'never'?
Blacklabel
Same exact guy election commission guy in October 2016
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/
What? a father can vote for a son? your neighbor can vote for you?
Yep now we are getting somewhere. But lets keep talking about Facebook. If these so called Russian ads are found illegal, will the money be confiscated from Facebook's pockets?
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Because they just sent in a request for the updated data, duh. So no, it wasn't 10 months.
Yeah man, its a total conspiracy. The system is so rigged and Trump still won. ;) He's the greatest! Good grief.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Nice backpedal too, btw. We went from "collusion definitely didn't happen" to "even if it happened, what's $150,000 in a $1 billion campaign?" Love it :D
Blacklabel
Somehow Hillary Clinton got more votes in 2016 Chicago than 2012 Barack Obama did?? We dont need a Voter Fraud Commission? But we need to investigate this Facebook nonsense and they even sent it to Mueller's team?
@crazyjoe was the one who said:
They actually do want to get to the bottom of it, but Schumer and others are trying to kill it. Probably due to not wanting to explain the types of discrepancies we are already seeing in Chicago.
Blacklabel
Didnt say that. There was no collusion. Said what is the impact of $150,000 in Facebook ads compared to $1 billion spent overall. Shouldnt even be a story.
Blacklabel
Facebook themselves cant even prove 'the Russians' did this to help any specific candidate. its right in the article:
Toasted Heretic
The "net" is closing in.
Only the state should provide news, eh? Very Pravda.
Blacklabel
Dont worry CNN/Washington Post/NY Times have you covered. Front page news on all their websites about this Facebook nonsense. Not a single mention of the Awan or Menendez trials. Almost like they have a narrative or an agenda or something like Pravda would.....
Illyas
Love this blatant double think. But by all means, anything to keep the Russia narrative alive. Even if it means digging up a paltry $100,000 in LEGAL advertising over two years unrelated to any campaign. So long as it allows writers to mention Russia again, that's all that really matters.
Blacklabel
Yep that 1 billion dollars spent on ads by the actual candidates specifically laying out their policies and vision? No impact at all. Not to mention 3 prime time debates viewed by tens of millions of voters.
A few Ads on Facebook few people even saw? "Shaped the election"!
bass4funk
They do, they're just not obsessed with it that it bogs them down from doing their job, if they did that, they'd be in the boondocks like the Democratic Party is.
Most of it is and yes, the system is heavily rigged, ask Bernie.
HonestDictator
Facebook can say what it wants, but if they're truly an American made corporation, guess who they should also be sharing that particular information (as well as the contributors) with? CIA and FBI. That's what they should be doing. Unless they're already doing this on the down low, they're just making noise with no effective proof and I don't trust corporate entities who are only out to make a profit to pretend they're being "patriotic" by saying words while "protecting the privacy" of people from a foreign nation attempting to interfere with US's national elections. It's a concern valid enough to take it to the proper federal authorities who can actually DO something about this in spite of our inept leadership.