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Tommy Jones
Please remember Muelker's investigation has cost $3.2 million, not $6.7 million. The article clearly states that the "other" expenditure of $3.5 million would have occurred without Mueller's investigation.
And, to address the inevitable onslaught of "it's a dud," "Mueller's team is full of Clinton loving liberals," "what about the agent that was caught being anti-Trump," "if there were anything, we'd have already heard about it," etc.:
It's not a dud: 2 convictions and two indictments. It's just getting started.
The logic that the lawyers cannot set aside their politics is a bit much. Lawyers do this all the time. Furthermore, that same logic can be used against SCOTUS. The majority of SCOTUS justices that voted to lift the injunctions on the travel ban are conservative, so lack credibility/the ability to enforce the constitution when it comes to judging a "liberal" issues.
The agent that was found to be biased was promptly removed, which is the professional and ethical thing to do.
Just like conservative investigations into Benghazi took time before they actually found nothing, Mueller is investigating real issues that are not simple. Which, of course, is to say investigations of complex issues takes time and keeping a lid on the investigation is the prudent thing to do.
SuperLib
That's about half of Donald's golf expenses.
bass4funk
When you have the feds and people like Comey or Strzok or Lynch as we now know surpressing and hiding as much information as they could and now that we know that there were people like these in the bureau that would defy the law and side with one of the most corrupted political official in US history.
With 7 Democratic lawyer donors, so why doesn’t Mueller have a single conservative on his investigative team? Now Mueller had to fire on of his agents for being openly bias. So now we know this is a complete ruse, a witch hunt, nothing more.
ROFL Yeah, right what a bunch of crock and Strzok proved that.
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$3.2 million is peanuts. they should spend more. expense accounts and charter flights to 5 star resorts for meetings. private security systems for homes with armed guards. fact finding trips with family. bribes. many way to make this look more important by costing more. $3.2 million? nobody would even bother to read it.
PTownsend
And every penny is well spent if the investigations results in finding ways to keep traitors like Flynn out of positions of power and if they also find ways to keep foreign powers from any illegal involvements in US elections and politics in general.
Strangerland
But how do you explain the Republicans were bribing the FBI to find Clinton guilty?
bass4funk
Ok, sounds all good, but who’s going to reign in the now corrupt FBI? Who will give them the proper oversight and keep them from what we now know is clear bias when it comes to the president and who will put the confidence and trust back into the bureau?
How do you explain Comey and Strzok doing their best to exonerate Clinton? Can’t wait to see those transcript that he wrote.
Strangerland
How do you explain Trump infiltrating the FBI with spies, getting them to push the Benghazi and email investigations?
Tommy Jones
Funny how conservatives loved the FBI when it was investigating liberals, but find it corrupt now that its investigating conservatives.
Why would you want to see transcripts written by someone you think lacks all credibility?
The conservative justices on the Supreme Court too biased to rule objectively on the injunction suppressing the travel ban.
PTownsend
If you're talking about rightists who believe conspiracy theories, such as the intelligence services are corrupt as are the judiciary and the media, it's doubtful it will happen. Fortunately they're a minority of Americans.
The majority are probably still willing to have some trust in US institutions. For the majority, the trust will most likely continue to be a guarded trust, as it should be.
For the conspiracy theory believers and those who think the country needs an authoritarian regime, probably never. Their emotions guide them. They need to have someone tell them what to do.
bass4funk
That’s not what the Wikileaks tapes showed. So Hillary lied to her own daughter? That’s really bad. If you can show us differently it should be good. Newsflash! Seems like Strzok hateful anti-Trump messages will be revealed soon.
After Comey and Strzok, Yup! But then again, when the FBI was first investigating Trump, the left was ok, then when they turned on Hillary, the left called Comey every name in the book.
No, he lost all credibility once he signed on to nail the president, also, I just want to see how bad his hatred is, so that the nation can really see the credibility the FBI has and the holes of this bogus investigation.
7-2 there were some Dems thst agree with the ban, so it’s not a conservative only issue.
Blacklabel
this is all I need to know about why this will go on until Congress stops it.
And yes it IS s big deal that the same guy who interviewed Hillary was the same guy who let Mills and Abedin go after their lying who was the same guy who pushed the fake dossier who also interviewed Flynn who is the same guy who sent pro Hillary/anti-trump texts to his lawyer mistress.
Some legal people are saying because he was removed for bias and that it was hidden from Congress that some of these cases to include both Hillary and Flynn could be reopened at some point.
Blacklabel
We conservatives don’t “find” the FBI corrupt now, it has been proven. Just waiting to see how you explain away the contents of these texts (if we ever even get to see them). They just have been really bad if he was sent to HR and taken off ALL investigations indefinitely.
Strangerland
Nope, Trump planted spies in the FBI, and he's been paying off operatives to throw the Mueller investigation. That guy that they just fired? Trump paid him a billion dollars.
Strangerland
After 46 Hillary investigations into the email and benghazi, the right has literally zero position to whine about the cost of investigations. This investigation has already produced more than any of the Hillary investigations, with a tally of two guilty pleas and two indictments.
Sorry boys, but this is money well spent.
PTownsend
Proven? To all conservatives? Pretty unlikely. Maybe to some who believe in conspiracy theories, to those who want an authoritarian regime, who want to undermine the existing systems of checks and balances, and who are only willing to believe reports that reflect their perspectives.
I'm sure there many intelligent conservatives who still have some faith in the intelligence services - and the media.
Strangerland
Yes, its been proven that the Republicans have been paying the FBI to bias towards them. It's been proven that Trump personally wore a disguise and got a job in the FBI, pretending to be an investigator, and became part of the investigation, trying to throw it.
Tommy Jones
By your logic, you wouldn't be able to trust Comey's notes.
I didn't say it was only a conservative issue. See, I'm using your logic, which dictates that my side is always correct and your side is always incorrect and/or lacks credibility.
Tommy Jones
Allegedly fake dossier.
Stranger: You're doing a great job of using corrupt conservative tactics against corrupt conservatives.
Strangerland
Thanks, but it wasn't a tactic, I thought we were playing a game of who can make up sillier lies. I was just following their lead :)
Blacklabel
Except we aren’t lying and have proof. Did this FBI supervisor NOT send these anti Trump texts to his mistress? This is fake news?
Blacklabel
Mueller removed the guy that seemed to be in charge of everything, then hid the reason why from Congress for 6 months for no reason? The same guy that the document revisions proved changed the wording for Hillary from criminal guilt to non criminal guilt?
Or are you saying this didn’t happen either?
Tommy Jones
Correct, Mueller did remove this agent.
Incorrect,
That Mueller immediately removed this agent upon discovering the possibility of bias means Mueller is concerned about running a credible investigation.
bass4funk
Ok, so about Jeannie Rhee, Andrew Weismann both are deep, deep Hillary supporters and donators, When is Mueller going to fire them and why doesn’t he have any conservative investigators on his team or investigators that donated have a lead to conservative causes or republican causes?
Not at all.
Hmmmm....lol
Blacklabel
By the way what happened to that huge story that trump and his family’s bank records had been subpoenaed by Mueller and turned over? Seems to be erased from all the MSM websites. Probably cause it’s more fake news and never happened?
Tommy Jones
Corrupt conservatives sure are worried about a "dud" investigation. If you are so certain it's a dud, why do you constantly moan about it?
Strangerland
Hey, stop that, being all sensical and logical. Don't you know we're working off emotion here?!
Blacklabel
No emotion here. Simply facts.
Blacklabel
If you remove a person AFTER they do all these biased things and then don’t go back and revisit those how is that sensible or logical or honest?
Strangerland
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Blacklabel
yep that was fake news as the subpoena never happened. Was top page article on CNN yesterday then just gone with no explanation.
This FBI thing is a big deal whether you want it to be or not. The guy’s wife spent all day erasing all her pro Hillary and Obama Facebook content so they must agree.
Strangerland
And yet, there it is on the MSM site I linked to. Contrary to your claims.
Who's not admitting it. It's the kind of thing that would rightly get someone removed from the investigation. You know, as it did.
Blacklabel
Removal after the fact means nothing if you allow all his biased decisions to stand. Should be quite interesting to see what happens with all this.
Strangerland
Umm, removal before the fact would mean the person doing the removing is magic, and can see the future!
Oh, sorry, I hadn't realized this happened. Please, being on the inner circle of Mueller's team, can you please tell us some other things that no one outside that circle knows?
Blacklabel
ok thats fine. Read the news this week and you will see what happens along with everyone else.
I obviously can’t get anyone on “your side” that there is anything wrong with bias in law enforcement.
Strangerland
Heh, it's your team that denies that black lives matter has a valid complaint.
Tommy Jones
Youre presupposing there were biased decisions.
"Our side" loathes bias in law enforcement, hence the protests against bias towards blacks by law enforcement.
"Our side" can't get "your side" to understand that some people are capable of setting aside their personal feelings when doing a job. For instance, the corrupt conservative justices on the Supreme Court that ruled to lift the injunction on the travel ban. Either they set aside their personal feelings and ruled correctly, or they ruled based on those biases. This is your exact logic.
Tommy Jones
No, it hasn't. What is up with corrupt conservatives and their inability to wait for an investigation to be concluded before they know the results? They must have a crazy, corrupt conservative crystal ball.
bass4funk
Not worried, just fair, nothing more, not much to ask for. The investigation is already awash with corrupt Dems, so how about getting unbias conservative investigators or Democrat ones that have both donated to either party?
Comedy is Not a Liberals strongest attributes.
Wait a minue, half of you libs on JT scream the Trump administration will soon be finished, the same people that unequivocally condemned more without knowing any of the facts or was even a witness to the alleged allegations. Liberals can have an insight whether someone is innocent or guilty of a crime because they were born with these acute senses, conservatives just can’t do it, their DNA is inferior. ROFL
Now THAT was funny!
Strangerland
I only speak Truth.
Tommy Jones
Nope. Clearly nervous, as evidenced by the constant attempt to undercut Mueller and thus the investigation. If you weren't worried, you'd not constantly attempt to cast aspersions upon it.
First, absolutely hilarious! You were correct, it was funny! ROFL.
Second, it's a false equivalency. There is no investigation being conducted into Moore. The accusations against Moore are consistent and being shown with hard evidence to prove he's a kiddie fiddler.
Regarding Mueller and his team, there is scant (not none) evidence of wrongdoing. Additionally, Moore is accused of kiddie fiddling, not being corrupt. His credibility is taking a hit because he denies it. Thatl, however, is a crazy, corrupt conservative go to strategy.
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Still there. Were these serious questions? ;)
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=trump+accounts&oq=trump+accounts&aqs=chrome..69i57.11789j0j4&client=ms-android-zte&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#scso=uid_WiflmQADXdEKvDtNXwzh7A_1:0
Its too funny. Even Wray vouched for Comey. There were 0 problems at the Fbi. Btw, anyone know what Wray's been up to lately? Too funny.
bass4funk
So now you know me better than myself? Sorry, but wrong and wrong again. Pointing out facts and intertwining them with emotions is something I never do.
Ok, like what? I wasn’t there in the room, but apparently, you seem to know more than the rest of us, so what do you have to prove conclusively that Moore did what he did to those women?
Yes there is, don’t know about you, but I do read the paper and watch the news and the man has more than enough witch hunting leftist partisan lawyer hacks after Trump. We’re it the other way around, the left would go ballistic and rightfully so.
Ok, serious allegations, but he’ll probably still win.
Seems like thst bubble was busted and the HuffPost isn’t even a conservative site
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/conflicts-of-interest-and-ethics-robert-mueller-and_us_5936a148e4b033940169cdc8
SuperLib
It doesn't really matter is Mueller is corrupt or biased or not. He's the one putting Trump's people in jail which is a good thing. It's nice to see someone unapologetic sticking it to Trump and putting his people into cages. #MAGA
Mueller will continue until Kushner and/or Trump Jr. are indicted, then Trump will fire Mueller. The investigation will continue anyway. If Conservatives are screaming about foul play then we must be doing something right.
Blacklabel
the problem is that the people he is supposedly putting in jail will not be going there if it’s proven that bias or corruption came into play In the decisions of who to prosecute and who not to.
even CBS news says Trump winning now, to include against Mueller’s Russia team:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-trumps-good-fortune/
washington Post also saying the investigators need investigating. Wait and see what those texts say I guess. Also rumors of big FBI sexual harassment accusations coming, so who knows how this all ends.
SuperLib
You are more than welcome to pin your hopes and dreams of Trump's criminal buddies getting off on a technicality. In the meantime, we will be working to put as many behind bars as possible. #MAGA
Tommy Jones
You are incorrect. Constantly denigrating the investigation indicates your lack of comfort with it.
Incorrect. It's been pointed imput repeatedly that the use of phrases such as "looney liberals" and inability to recognize any achievement by Obama indicate emotion is a staple of your argumentative strategy.
Even if you were in a room, that kiddie fiddle preferred his car.
Youve been schooled on this multiple times.
Multiple accusers with consistent stories, signed yearbooks, banned from the mall, law enforcement being advised to keep him away from cheerleaders. I know you have some dishonest justification for each of these. However, the writing is on the wall for any intellectually honest person to see.
Prove it. Anyway, this is only true in the crazy, corrupt conservative bubble. No wonder conservatives are less educated than liberals.
Whether he wins doesn't change the fact that he's a repugnant kiddie fiddler that crazy, corrupt conservatives cannot seem to oppose despite his foul behavior.
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MMAGA (Mueller making America great again)