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Rivals take aim at Sanders' electability at rowdy South Carolina Democratic debate

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Berny Sanders will be the Democratic nominee. He has the grass root support to beat every other Democrat. He will lose to Donald.

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Another car wreck debate. Not quite as bad as the last one but it’s obvious Warren is there to protect Bernie.

Mayor Pete has improved considerably his “I speak like Obama” intonations. Biden said half the American population has been killed by guns since 2007, that was interesting to know.

the crowd was oddly anti Bernie until I found that tickets costs thousands of dollars and were not sold to the general public. ow.

the crowd was oddly anti Bernie until I found that tickets costs thousands of dollars and were not sold to the general public.

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The party that brings everyone together ... er ... except the people they don't like.

Vicious liberals against vicious liberals. Not a good look.

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Oh and Bloomberg admitted he paid 100 million dollars to buy most of those seats the House Dems won in 2018. Also good to know, thanks for sharing, Mike.

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Vicious liberals against vicious liberals. Not a good look.

That's a joke right?

I didn't see any candidate call one of the other's wives ugly...

I didn't see any candidate say another one's father was involved in the assassination of JFK...

I didn't see anyone saying to another; "You couldn't be elected Dogcatcher"...

Dump Trump/Pitch Pence/Ditch Mitch 2020!

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As even a blind person can see the liberals have nothing positive to offer. Attack each other in front of the people you trying get to vote for you.

These morons continue showing their stupidity and the fools who support them think they are doing great .

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I could watch Warren dunk on Bloomberg all day.

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Another car wreck debate. Not quite as bad as the last one but it’s obvious Warren is there to protect Bernie.

Mayor Pete has improved considerably his “I speak like Obama” intonations. Biden said half the American population has been killed by guns since 2007, that was interesting to know.

the crowd was oddly anti Bernie until I found that tickets costs thousands of dollars and were not sold to the general public. ow.

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As even a blind person can see the liberals have nothing positive to offer. Attack each other in front of the people you trying get to vote for you.

It's stunning how, after Trump insulted his fellow far-right Republicans over and over just a few years ago, GOP stans have forgotten what primaries are or how they work.

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Biden is proving himself to be more mentally unstable debate by debate....)

the loons are making big promises, but if you think them over for just a moment; they make no sense

for ex. even overseas, I must report my income to the irs or risk getting an audit,and you best not even think about not reporting if you live in the US. All of these immigrants who are on a "path to citizenship" and being offered shelter in sanctuary cities and protection promises by the loon team...how do they file a tax report, with no TIN or SSN? their employer files for them? How come the rest of us can be jailed, but they cant?

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Any comments on your candidates?

It was pretty bad, CNN again announced that Trump was a winner of this debate too.

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thanks CNN

Winners;

* Donald Trump: A bitter, angry shout-fest in which virtually every potential nominee's dirty laundry was aired? The President couldn't have drawn up a better debate for his chances of winning a second term.

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Any comments on your candidates?

Yeah: Bernie and Warren both did well.

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Trump is an incompetent phony, an aberrant creation of right-wing money, angry, self-deluded voters and the anachronistic EC, but Sanders will surely take down the discredited Trump, who has been a yuge embarrassment to America's standing in the world, provided he can get past the obstacles thrown in his path by the pernicious DNC.

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Yeah except the parts where all she actually does is attack Bloomberg, protect Bernie and once again bring up the debunked lie that she was removed from her teaching job due to pregnancy. She needed to say that random untruth in order to set up her Bloomberg attack about his pregnant worker. It was so obvious why she was talking about that debunked story, we all knew that next line was coming.

Warren both did well.

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Bernie did relatively well considering they were all piling on top of him, plus the crowd seemed rigged against him.

But the amount of Castro love and calling the leader of Israel "racist" wasnt a good look at all.

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Yeah except the parts where all she actually does is attack Bloomberg, protect Bernie 

Those are good things. Bernie is good. Bloomberg is a racist Republican sex pest.

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does our team, the Dems, know this? he is somehow in 2nd place in most Dem primary polls. he is even beating Bernie for 1st in Florida, which wont get better with the Castro comments.

Bloomberg is a racist Republican sex pest.

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Interesting times. If Sanders wins the nomination I think it is because of the silent but growing wealth disparity killing the middle class and the lack of a rational health care system in the US. Even if Sanders loses to Trump, if he causes Trump to focus on these issues more than that will be a win.

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does our team, the Dems, know this?

The Democratic Party isn't "my team". I am a registered independent, unlike yourself.

he is somehow in 2nd place in most Dem primary polls. he is even beating Bernie for 1st in Florida, which wont get better with the Castro comments.

"Somehow". It's his ad-bombing. After Super Tuesday, many of the current candidates will drop out, and Bernie will op up many of their votes - even among Biden voters, he's the second choice.

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To put things straight, Sanders said Cuba's healthcare and education were good and unfortunately the government was authoritarian. Obama praised Castro's Cuba in 2016: "[It] made great progress in educating young people."  When Sander's criticism of Netanyahu was Jewish guy to Jewish guy as much as it a general political statement. So, what's really wrong with Sanders? Takes bribes? No. Lies? No. Her affairs with porn stars? No. Wants rob the poor to enrich the rich? No.

With Sanders what you see is what you get. Hard to get used to in politics.

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Blast, one garbled sentence art least, which should read: Sanders' criticism of Netanyahu was as much Jewish guy to Jewish guy as it was a general political statement.

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Bernie is easily the best of the Dems, and I respect his sincerity and concern for the people.

I agree with him that a single payer national health care system (like Japan's) would be great. Unfortunately, the US can't afford it because it wastes too much money on the military.

I also agree with his idea that wealth should be more fairly distributed. That would be great. The reality though is that taxing the wealthy in ways he proposes generally backfires and then it's the poor that suffers.

All things considered, I can't see Sanders defeating Trump at all. I believe the majority of voters will conclude that while capitalism has inherent unfairness, Trump understands it well and can get the best out of it for the working class and the nation as a whole. So Trump will win.

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All the Democrats have to do to win the white house is:

a) come across as less crazy than Trump - easy.

b) don't push illegal immigrants from Honduras to go to American colleges for free, majoring in America Sucks.

And they, Democrats, are blowing it.

All the Dems need to do is not push crazy ideas that will cost the middle class money. Stop claiming something that cannot be free - college, health care, retirement, illegal immigration, pharmaceuticals, day care, is going to be free. Whenever someone from the govt says anything is free from the govt, we know to check our wallets because it is a lie.

We are tired of Trump, but please don't think we are stupid.

Dems need to get elected first. They can't do that pushing far, far, far, left ideas.

Which Democrat beats Trump in Ohio? Biden. Which other Dem candidate does? Dems need to be looking at the 5 states which will win the election. Then don't need to spend anytime in Hawaii or California or other democratic strongholds. Spend time in the battleground states, where it matters and put up a candidate who can win in those states. Please.

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The only thing to be curious now is to see how the swamp will eliminate Sanders. On the "mainstream" media they have already turned to Sanders-bashing mode, one the commentators on CNN comparing Sanders to Hitler invading France, LOL.

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Good points, I would respectfully add one more

C) stop the racial identity politics and pandering. On one hand they say dont judge anyone by the color of their skin. Then on the other hand is black this, latino that. black and brown. people of color. Over and over again. Gonna put a black woman on the Supreme Court! what happened to color of skin not being a factor in the decision? You need white people votes too, you know?

Trump has 18% of the black vote and 40% of the Hispanic vote as of latest polls. His approval ratings are up significantly since impeachment and the Dem debates. I think at least some of that is due to the negative reaction to all the racial pandering. Plus, Mayor Pete suddenly becoming the reincarnation of still living Barack Obama.

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I am not tired of Trump, I think he is just getting started and needs 4 more years to get the best trade deals done with India and China this stuff takes time to get done.

if any of the looney tunes get elected its game over for the economy etc.

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Vicious liberals against vicious liberals. Not a good look.

That's a joke right?

I didn't see any candidate call one of the other's wives ugly...

I didn't see any candidate say another one's father was involved in the assassination of JFK...

I didn't see anyone saying to another; "You couldn't be elected Dogcatcher"...

Didn’t Trump also insult Fiorina’s face?

It’s comical that Trump supporters find these debates unsightly. You almost get the impression they like dignity and focus on topics.

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Trump has 18% of the black vote and 40% of the Hispanic vote as of latest polls.

Which poll or polls? There is a a bad habit of cherry-picking favourable numbers on these threads.

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All the Dems need to do is not push crazy ideas that will cost the middle class money. Stop claiming something that cannot be free - college, health care, retirement, illegal immigration, pharmaceuticals, day care, is going to be free. Whenever someone from the govt says anything is free from the govt, we know to check our wallets because it is a lie.

but thats the hook, hillary tried it also with obamas help and took a bow to Trump. once they get in, then its business as usual. the race card and the freebies are the only gimmicks they have. they prey on poor and inexperienced people. nobody else is buying that crap

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Bernie is just Trump 2.0. Back in 2016 I really liked him but watching him interview now it's like watching Trump. God help us all.

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Another car wreck debate. Not quite as bad as the last one but it’s obvious Warren is there to protect Bernie. 

Mayor Pete has improved considerably his “I speak like Obama” intonations. Biden said half the American population has been killed by guns since 2007, that was interesting to know. 

the crowd was oddly anti Bernie until I found that tickets costs thousands of dollars and were not sold to the general public. ow. 

the crowd was oddly anti Bernie until I found that tickets costs thousands of dollars and were not sold to the general public.

All these people are jokes, they’re making it too easy for Trump, keep the Democrat clown car rolling. Lol

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Our top priority is to get rid of useless incompetent politicians and elect smart ones...

Our next priority is to have laws limiting the ratio between highest and lowest paid in a company to about 10... Now this ratio is about 250 - that means we have pure slavery...

Our next priority is to get rid of guns...

Next is to take care of our planet and our Universe...

Presidential candidates seem confused and talk about everything except about what matters... Disgusting... United States of Incompetence...

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Blacklabel:

Trump has 18% of the black vote and 40% of the Hispanic vote as of latest polls. His approval ratings are up significantly since impeachment and the Dem debates.

And don´t forget all these Indians. Don´t they know that Trump is a despiccable racist? Are not watching enough US "mainstream media"?

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And don´t forget all these Indians. Don´t they know that Trump is a despiccable racist? Are not watching enough US "mainstream media"?

Are you advocating that citizens of India vote in the US election for Donald Trump?

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no, he is talking about the millions of Indians who were more than happy to see the supposed "racist" President in their country. He even visited the Taj Mahal, "the jewel of Muslim art in India and one of the universally admired masterpieces of the world's heritage". all things a "racist" does, right?

Are you advocating that citizens of India vote in the US election for Donald Trump?

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doesnt matter really as one of your buddies will discredit whichever poll it was. I believe it was the Emerson poll of last week.

Which poll or polls? There is a a bad habit of cherry-picking favourable numbers on these threads.

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"Electability" is a fiction made up by people like James Carville and Chris Matthews; it has no basis in reality. The only thing that will stop someone being elected (all things equal) is lack of votes. If Sanders is the eventual candidate and is not elected, it is because too many centrist DINOs decide they'd rather live with 4 more years of chaos and pain and 40 years of Trump's federal judicial appointments than bother to learn the definition of "socialism". What will the same doomsayers say when it's Biden or Bloomberg who loses? That it was Sanders' supporters fault? I can hear it already.

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no, he is talking about the millions of Indians who were more than happy to see the supposed "racist" President in their country. He even visited the Taj Mahal, "the jewel of Muslim art in India and one of the universally admired masterpieces of the world's heritage".

An odd thing to bring up when discussing US voters and elections, but alright.

all things a "racist" does, right?

When it's the racist's job to do so, yes.

doesnt matter really as one of your buddies will discredit whichever poll it was.

?? You guys constantly say that any poll that's bad for Trump must be fake on the basis that it's bad for Trump. This is some serious projection.

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Bloomberg has the charisma of a cardboard box, but he did make one REALLY important point:

"Vladimir Putin thinks that Donald Trump should be president of the United States, and that’s why Russia is helping you get elected so you lose to him," Bloomberg told Sanders.

No doubt about that. Vlad is a man who's used to getting what he wants, and he knows how to get it. He's got Donny by his tiny nuts, and is not going to let anyone tear him out of his grasp.

If any Trump fans have the concentration span of 2 minutes to check out why there "might" be a malign push to make sure Bernie gets the nomination, check out the Rick Wilson link below. It's a video, so you don't have to do any of that boring reading stuff (ideally, check out what he writes and says in more detail). Wilson is a veteran Republican campaign strategist who has helped them win many elections, and never wavered from his party allegiance until Trump came along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS8JXuaG3w8

I think Bernie is a terrific guy, with his heart absolutely in the right place, but he's the Republican dirty-tricksters' wet dream.

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?? You guys constantly say that any poll that's bad for Trump must be fake on the basis that it's bad for Trump.

You guys do the same thing when it comes to polls, anything positive in the polls on Trump, it’s a lie, if it’s bad, the polls are correct.

This is some serious projection.

Ya’ think?

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doesnt matter really as one of your buddies will discredit whichever poll it was. I believe it was the Emerson poll of last week

Oh, one poll. It’s just that you used the plural ‘polls’. A bit misleading.

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doesnt matter because every single poll has Trump approval up since impeachment and the Dem debates started. So its obvious what the impact of those was. so any one individual poll is irrelevant when all are up. thanks for playing though!

You constantly disparage polls that cut against you and cite ones that support you. It’s blatant. Times infinity.

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Rick Wilson, the supposed Republican who was on CNN pushing Ukraine narrative with Don Lemon? no thanks.

this guy, seriously? not even a Republican anymore. definition of Never Trumper. Who is giving Dems the same advice they lost with in 2016. Just focus on Trump personally, nothing else matters! thats how you lost last time.

Former GOP strategist Rick Wilson: "F**king hating" Trump is the key to winning in 2020.

https://www.salon.com/2020/01/16/rick-wilson/

no thanks.

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doesnt matter because every single poll has Trump approval up since impeachment and the Dem debates started. So its obvious what the impact of those was. so any one individual poll is irrelevant when all are up.

That's not what was being disputed, though. You said there were multiple polls that had Trump with 18% of the black vote and 40% of the Hispanic vote. Now it's one poll but you can't find it. Next it'll be that the poll totally exists but we wouldn't know her because she goes to another school in Canada.

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