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Starbucks to close 8,000 U.S. stores for racial tolerance training

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Mmm. Those officers, unless they're literally mindless zombies, are at fault too. They answered their call, arrived to the place but found out nothing wrong in the scene. And still went ahead and arrested them.

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One-time training day is not enough. You have to tell 'em what you're going to tell 'em; then you tell 'em; then you tell 'em what you told 'em. And then do it again. Every year. More often would be better considering turnover and new hires.

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Liberals would say to boycott non liberal companies if they had this ratio that shows lack of minority representation in the executive ranks:

minorities account for 18 percent of Starbucks executives with the title of senior vice president or higher and 43 percent of employees overall.

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So does Starbucks believe that only their American outlets need staff training for racial tolerance training and their staff in other countries like Japan do not.

The manager of the store who called the police was fired. Too late to give her racial tolerance training.

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If it is closed for an afternoon, regular customers will go to another coffee shop and realize that Starbucks is overpriced average coffee, brought from third world countries at low prices.

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They weren't asked to leave because they were black, they were asked to leave because they hadn't purchased anything and were taking seats away from paying customers.

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They weren't asked to leave because they were black, they were asked to leave because they hadn't purchased anything and were taking seats away from paying customers.

That was the reason given, but white people do this all the time (I have multiple times myself), and are not arrested for waiting for someone. This would definitely appear to be an implicit bias.

That said, I still don't think it's a Starbucks issue as much as that individual manager, as this does not appear to be a result of Starbucks policy.

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So why not clarify if anyone of any background is allowed to just sit there and buy nothing? Can non paying customers use the toilet? Can you “wait for” someone or is a purchase required?

Why the racial training directed if the company doesn’t feel responsible for their racism? I don’t get how they virtue signaling everyone about the actual problem of racism....by using their own racism as an example .?

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So why not clarify if anyone of any background is allowed to just sit there and buy nothing? Can non paying customers use the toilet?

I've seen plenty of people in Starbucks taking up a table for a long time, tapping away on their phone and computer, with a single, empty cup that was empty when I arrived and was till empty when I left 45 minutes later. Even if Starbucks objects to non-customers waiting in their shops, calling the police is a very extreme response.

As for using the lavatory, it seems that even paying customers can't use it if they have the 'wrong' skin colour.

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-43803310/hey-starbucks-is-it-my-skin-colour

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Staffing the right personnel starts at hiring and then training during orientation. Any training and re-training after that orientation is usually for skills and for communication, coordination and cooperative efforts and is often too late to instill a new philosophy and behavior.

All businesses MUST "hire" the right and proper person for the job at the first interview and not re-train there after. This is especially true when considering personal "values" and "preferences" as well as "tendencies" which this particular situation calls for. It is not only extremely difficult and time consuming to get any meaningful change but often destructive fore and to the corporate culture. It is not easy to teach morals and values to those who already have formed one for themselves and have them put a new one into action properly and acceptably. It is something policies and procedures really cannot correct in a short period of time.

Like honesty, sincerity, caring, and other personal character that reflect a person's values, attitudes and behavior, must be "recognized" and considered before hiring based upon skills, talents and abilities or even the level of education. That is an extremely difficult task for the interviewer, other human resource personnel, supervisors and managers. But that must be done.

That is exactly why most companies have a human resource department. It is to fill a position, a role which that person must perform not just for the company, but for the customers. It is not to only to complete a manual task of preparing and selling products and to collect money.

This is a problem that originates from the owner and administrative level and a disastrous failure on the part of management and human resource personnel. It shows the mindset and priorities at the corporate level, where they have forgotten that business is between people. And all businesses are ultimately mutually agreeable "face-to-face" with the person who pays, hopefully with a "smile" on both sides.

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I think we need more than anecdotes before deciding if this incident was racially motivated or not. How were the men asked to leave? Did they explain their situation calmly, or angrily confront the shop staff? Does this particular shop strictly enforce policy about loitering and being a paying customer? Lots of things need to be cleared up before jumping to conclusions.

The facts are clear though. The men were asked to leave by the staff and refused. At that moment, they became trespassers. The police arrived and also asked them to leave BEFORE placing them under arrest. Upon refusal again to leave, the police had little choice than to make the arrest. If a business owner wants you to leave and you refuse to do so in the presence of the police, then you get arrested. No grey area.

Ironic seeing as Charbucks is a very left leaning company that gives millions to politicians on that side of the political spectrum.

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I think we need more than anecdotes before deciding if this incident was racially motivated or not. How were the men asked to leave? Did they explain their situation calmly, or angrily confront the shop staff? Does this particular shop strictly enforce policy about loitering and being a paying customer? Lots of things need to be cleared up before jumping to conclusions.

I've seen pretty much all of those clarified in other articles. The information is out there if you care to look for it.

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A black guy posted on Twitter that he went in to a Starbucks, called them racist and demanded a free coffee as “reparations”.

They actually so timid they gave it to him! Awesome guy, very clever!

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zichiToday  09:40 am JST

So does Starbucks believe that only their American outlets need staff training for racial tolerance training and their staff in other countries like Japan do not.

When staff in Japan have people arrested for "waiting while black", then yeah, they should have the same training. But that doesn't happen here.

BlacklabelToday  12:57 pm JST

Why the racial training directed if the company doesn’t feel responsible for their racism? 

Because, and I know- this is a shocking concept for some people to try and grasp, some companies don't like being a part of causing pain to another human being. They, and I know this might run against every heartless belief some people have, believe in making the world better even if they aren't completely at fault when it sucks. Shocking, ne?

BlacklabelToday  07:59 pm JST

A black guy posted on Twitter that he went in to a Starbucks, called them racist and demanded a free coffee as “reparations”.

They actually so timid they gave it to him! Awesome guy, very clever!

Here's the thing about Starbucks- cashiers are empowered by the company to give a free drink for nearly any reason they want. I used to go to a Starbucks that gave police officers daily free drinks automatically. Their drinks are overpriced to begin with, but their business model is also all about acknowledging that sometimes goodwill and intangible benefits are better for the company in the long run than being militant penny-pinchers. So within reason being fairly generous with free drinks isn't actually a loss for them. The fact that you seem to be the only one here who has heard of this guy suggests that giving him his free drink was an effective strategy.

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Heh, uber one-world Strarbucks closing for "racial tolerance training". Like all liberals, apparently they don't practice what they preach. . . .

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Strangerland:

Here is what I was able to glean;

Two scruffy looking guys ask to use the bathroom. Refused as they are not customers. They don't order anything, just sit down. Some time later (15 minutes, I believe) they are asked to leave. They refuse. They are asked again and refuse. The police are called. The police ask three more times and they refuse to leave. At that point, they are cuffed and led away.

At what point is the store in the wrong? Still waiting for any evidence of bias or racial animus. Plus, I am curious as to why the identites of any of the people in this little drama are all still unknown......

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Companies are responsible for the actions of their people and for the safety of others on their premises.

Starbucks locations inside other stores aren't going to call police. They would complain to the other store, who would decide whether police are needed or not.

A few groups that I meet with weekly ask restaurants to allow our meetings. 50% of the people attending don't order anything, but the store managers are fine with that. We meet during slow periods, which means there are a few vehicle in the parking lots and people can be seen inside through windows. Everyone prefers to eat at a restaurant with a few people inside over an empty place.

What Starbucks does to coffee beans is a crime, IMHO. Burnt coffee is nasty.

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I'm White, and I've had a similar situation when I entered a Pub simply wishing use the Toilet there, I was asked to leave by the Landlord. Instead of refusing, I complied. But why didn't that make news headlines ? Perhaps I should have refused and got arrested ... or maybe it's because I'm not Black ?

I wonder how many people here have actually seen the video of the event and listened to the Police recording.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p33IWE1OLM

And listened to the original call, and subsequent Police to dispatcher followup messages:

Police Recording: https://youtu.be/pFRP7QwlIH0

Watch it and listen carefully.

What we don't know, is how the Store Manager asked these men to leave, nor what they said in response. Perhaps they were simply just sitting around for a long time, using the free WiFi and not making any purchases, and when she approached them they refused.... (listen to the way they talked to the Police)

What we do know, is that the Store Manager was polite on the call to the police, and didn't even mention Color/Race, etc, referring to them as 2 "Gentlemen"....

Now it turns out that the Store Manager has been Fired (for doing her job?) ... and the 2 Black guys are now Celebrity Hero's ... I wonder whether they staged this in the first place. Perhaps she should sue Starbucks... that would be an interesting one to follow.

Questions to ask:

1). Does Starbucks make it clear that the Facilities are for use by Customers only ?

2) How long were these 2 men sitting in the Store before being approached by the Store Manager ?

3). Was the Store Manager, by asking the two unpaying visitors, to become Customers or leave wrong ?

4). If the Store Manager as a Woman, felt threatened enough not to be able to handle the eviction of the non-Customers, why should she not call the Police ? Or should all Starbucks stores employ their own Security ?

I'd really like to see how Starbucks are going to train their staff for this one, as it seems now Star bucks is in a no win situation...

The only thing, I can think of, if they haven't already done so, would be for Starbucks to post upon the doors, tables, toilet doors, a note saying that the Facilities are for the use of Customers only, the management has the right to ask non-Customers to leave.

So was this really as Race issue ?

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Black 1, White 0 ?

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Mmm. Those officers, unless they're literally mindless zombies, are at fault too. They answered their call, arrived to the place but found out nothing wrong in the scene. And still went ahead and arrested them.

The 2 men admitedly refused to leave when the officers asked them to. At that point, the officers had no choice, as legally, the two men were trespassing. Right or wrong, the manager of that store wanted them them to leave and legally had the right to do so. What were the police supposed to do? They weren't left with too many options.

The fault lies completely with Starbucks, not the police. They handled the situation as best as they could.

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Extanker; don't you think that at least SOME of the fault lies with the two men, who repeatedly refused to leave the premises? They were given at least 5 opportunities to vacate before they were arrested. Legally, the situation is absolutely crystal clear.

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Had these two men, attacked the Store Manager, we'd probably be reading headlines about how Starbucks places it's Female staff in danger.

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AttilathehungryToday  10:40 am JST

Extanker; don't you think that at least SOME of the fault lies with the two men, who repeatedly refused to leave the premises?

If their behavior doesn't normally get white people arrested at Starbucks, then it is impossible to blame them for doing what other people do without incident.

mmwkdwToday  11:46 am JST

Had these two men, attacked the Store Manager, we'd probably be reading headlines about how Starbucks places it's Female staff in danger.

If a person only reads far-right white nationalist hate-inciting "news," then yeah. But for normal people, no, that's pretty unlikely. And why the hypothetical violence? These guys didn't give any sign they intended to do violence. Why the assumption that just because they are black they had the potential to?

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@katsu78 - no, these guys could be anyone black/white/female/whatever.

If you had watched the video I mentioned in my previous post, you would have seen that these guys had an attitude problem to authority. It doesn't matter if they were black/white or whatever, they had been asked to leave the premises since they weren't being Customers, they refused and the Store Manager called the Police for assistance.

Everyone here is so fixated upon the fact that these 2 people are Black men. Had they been 2 Japanese women sitting down there instead, would there have been the same issue had they been asked to either buy a coffee or leave ?

Look at the facts.

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Everyone here is so fixated upon the fact that these 2 people are Black men. Had they been 2 Japanese women sitting down there instead, would there have been the same issue had they been asked to either buy a coffee or leave ?

The point is that the likelihood of two Japanese women being asked to leave in the first place is minuscule.

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@strangerland - how can you be so sure ? If you're a Store Manager then it's in your interest to sell your wares and if you notice people just hanging around doing nothing, occupying seats that would otherwise be occupied by Paying customers then you would be foolish to not ask them to buy something or leave. I've seen a School kids being told to clear off from some places simply because they're sitting around playing games - is that any different ?

The problem appears to be that if you're not Black, and you're asked to leave then you don't think twice about it, and it doesn't become a Global news story. If you're Black, then it becomes a Race issue.

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Where will this all go ?

Will it end up meaning that from now, you can sit within any Starbucks shop for any length of time without being challenged and asked to buy something ?

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Had they been 2 Japanese women sitting down there instead,

I doubt the two Japanese women would have occupied two different tables just so they can sit on the bench. They would have been thoughtful of other customers and sat across from each other at the same table. Selfish people.

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Most Liberals are stuck on this one. You want to to be racism cause that suits your narrative. But it’s starbucks, a virue signaling liberal business of there ever was one. So now you have to fight that it wasn’t racism even though the arrested guys are black.

So Starbucks didn’t do it, it’s a rogue racist manager! then you want the racist manager fired but customers reports she is a known SJW feminist. Man what a pickle....! Just gonna have to take a loss on this one and hope it’s not a liberal business next time.

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So Starbucks didn’t do it, it’s a rogue racist manager! then you want the racist manager fired but customers reports she is a known SJW feminist.

She was fired the following day.

If the two blacks were sitting in the Starbucks and occupying a table without buying then the manager was right to ask them to leave. If they refused then the store manager was right to call the cops. The cops had no reason to arrest them just escort them out.

If the same would happen with two white guys then the same should happen.

The store manager is not responsible for the over reaction of the cops.

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Oh so this is racism? Just it’s “the police”, (as usual) who are racist not Starbucks, whose employee called them to come deal with black people not doing what they were told.

Ok that’s better. Then why is Starbucks holding diversity training again? To tell the police they stop being racist when they are called?

Imagine everything the exact same except instead of a Starbucks it’s a coffee shop in Trump Tower. Who would be at fault then and would it be racism? There is your answer about this Starbucks incident.

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The stabucks CEO was on CNN last night literally tearing up in contrition.

It was amusing to watch the virtual signalling fake - and hero of the left - going through his performance.

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Btw, (And I know stating facts that go against the lefty narrative is a no-no) the police had no choice but to arrest them.

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Zichi, how are the police supposed to 'just escort them out' when they refuse to move?

Im all ears.

In the circumstances they had no choice but to arrest them.

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Bad judgment by the person who called the cops (I think they called 911 as well) regardless of race, nationality or creed.

When the police asked the men to leave they refused (bad judgment on their part as well).

So.....is this training going to occur in Japan too?

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the police had no choice but to arrest them.

I don't think that's true - I think police have discretionary power. That said, I'm open to you proving me wrong. Where is it written that they had to make an arrest?

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Looking at that Video, the Black guys were refusing to cooperate with the Policeman's request, the discussions became a bit tense, Police backup was called in too. An arrest was the only course of action - what else would you have expected to happen ?

If a Policeman asks you to do something (be it right or wrong), and you argue back at him/her, regardless of which Country you're in, or what race you are, you're likely to be getting yourself into trouble.

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Strangerland, meanwhile in the real world...

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Bad judgment by the person who called the cops (I think they called 911 as well) regardless of race, nationality or creed.

When the police asked the men to leave they refused (bad judgment on their part as well).

I think you've got it right there. It was a series of bad judgements. People wait in Starbucks all the time. If these guys weren't bugging anyone (and nothing has been written to indicate they were), they should have been left alone, as thousands of Starbucks customers all over the world are every day. The police should have escorted them outside, then let them go. They couldn't leave them in the store, but there was hardly reason to arrest them for hours on end either.

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Strangerland, meanwhile in the real world...

In the real world, the police have discretionary power.

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Wouldn't be surprised if this was staged by some "Black Lives" group. Notice how one of them was on his phone whilst the Policeman was in discussion with the other guy, and then just by chance, a White guy turns up (their Friend?) and starts arguing with the Police too. And whilst all this is happening a couple of people are video'ing the whole thing.

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Notice how one of them was on his phone whilst the Policeman was in discussion with the other guy, and then just by chance, a White guy turns up (their Friend?) and starts arguing with the Police too.

Yeah, I mean come on, white guys and black guys can't actually be friends, especially the type that hang out at Starbucks. And who uses a phone in public? Get real people.

And whilst all this is happening a couple of people are video'ing the whole thing.

Yeah it's not like everyone has a video camera in their pockets and love to post stuff on the internet, right?

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Strangerland, you dont get it. You say the police should have jyst escorted them out.

But they refused to go. So , that means to 'escort them out' the police would have to use physical force - which goes along with arrest.

As I was saying, in the real world...

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Legally, there is no doubt the police acted correctly in handcuffing the two gents. They had been given numerous chances to defuse the situation by leaving voluntarily and refused. At that point, pardon the pun but the polices' hands were tied. They had no alternative but to make the arrest.

As to the motivations of the parties involved, that is another matter. Given the general corporate culture at Charbuck's, I find it hard to believe that a manager would act in such a blatantly bigoted manner. However, we have yet to hear directly from any of them, so it remains to be seen. Curious that nobody actually knows WHO was involved...

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mmwkdwToday  01:52 pm JST

If you had watched the video I mentioned in my previous post, you would have seen that these guys had an attitude problem to authority.

If police tried to arrest me for doing behavior that other people do routinely without consequence, I'd give them attitude too. The difference is, me being white, I wouldn't be thrown in jail just for having an attitude.

mmwkdwToday  02:59 pm JST

@strangerland - how can you be so sure ? 

Well, the fact that no one has evidence of it ever happening is a pretty good indication.

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NoIdeaAboutAnythingToday  04:48 pm JST

If a Policeman asks you to do something (be it right or wrong), and you argue back at him/her, regardless of which Country you're in, or what race you are, you're likely to be getting yourself into trouble.

This is quite simply not true.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4960872/Social-experiment-shows-police-reaction-white-vs-black.html

https://hellobeautiful.com/2748905/white-man-points-a-gun-at-police-children/

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@Tokyo-Engr

FYI

911 is for any situation; fire, ambulance, police.

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katsu78, youre kidding right?

The behaviour youre describing will get you in trouble with police in plenty of countries - including in the west.

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@Tokyo-Engr

FYI

911 is for any situation; fire, ambulance, police.

Have you ever wondered whether to cal l9-1-1? Since 9-1-1 is for emergencies only, it helps to understand when to call and when not to call. An emergency is any serious situation where a law enforcement officer, fire fighter, or emergency medical help is needed right away

https://www.nena.org/?page=911TipsGuidelines

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Law enforcement officers have discretion to arrest.

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katsu78, youre kidding right?

The behaviour youre describing will get you in trouble with police in plenty of countries - including in the west.

Katsu was disputing the assertion that whites and minorities are treated the same, I believe.

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Tommyjones, karsu asserts that being white and giving attitude to police will not result in any action from the police. This is simply untrue.

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Again, if one has experience in the real world these kind of assertions will not be made.

IF.

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If you were to argue with the Police, then you would get into trouble regardless as to Color. If you don't believe me, have a go yourself - Katsu78, please do so and let us know the result.

The difference here is, that if you're Black, and you have some people video'ing your confrontation, then the Race flag is raised. If you're White, then you're branded an idiot, and people avoid you.

Look at the White Supremacists arguing with the Police... I believe they were arrested... indeed any form of Civil disobedience can end up in an arrest.

So, why were these guys targeted in the first place.... they sat around in a Coffee shop and didn't want to buy anything that the Shop had to sell... so when they were politely asked to leave, they refused and furthermore argued against it to the point that the Manager had to call the Police, they then argued with the Police, to the point that they got themselves arrested... this is not a race issue, but down right chip on your shoulder stupidity issue, plain and simple. Any normal person, would have either bought something or walked out ... if you disagree with that then please say why so that we can understand your logic.... something that no one has yet to explain here.

Anyone can walk into a Coffee shop and sit down in any available seating, just as you can do in some Restaurants. If however they're subsequently approached by the Staff and asked if they would like something from the establishment, and they respond with "No, they're simply waiting for a friend".... then what on earth, do you think the Store/Restaurant Staff are going to think ? These people are effectively depriving the Staff of an income. So sure, they should be asked to otherwise leave. And if they were to again refuse, what option do you have other than to call either Security or the Police... it's a no Brainer. This matter is not Racism, but has been blown out of all proportion to be seen as such. And nowadays it's becoming commonplace.

So, now, the consequences of this, is pretty obvious. If you are non-White, you can now, walk into any Bar/Restaurant/Coffee shop, and make use of whatever facilities are being provided to Paying Customers, and if anyone challenges you, then you can use the Race card and accuse the Staff of being Racist. The Staff will, fearing a smear against their Establishment, do whatever you want, maybe even give you free drink/meal.. as surely they wouldn't want another Starbucks situation to arise, as they themselves would then surely loose their Jobs. I would go so far as to call this behavior, a form of Terrorism/Exploitation - something that is reminiscent of the Mafia days of the past....

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@katsu78 - Try aguing directly 1 on 1 , and swearing at a Policeman, just as these "Gentlemen" did. Go on, I dare you to do so, and have one of your friends video the whole event whilst you do so, so that we can all see your evidence of racial bias. I wonder, where that will that get you ?

Also, I am not suggesting that all members of the Police force can be without issue - I for one, know that from my own experiences. But, what I am stating is that in this case, were you to watch closely the video, and carefully listen to the exchanges in English, you will see and understand the reasons why those so called "Gentlemen" were arrested.

It would be interesting to see some followup background information upon the 3 men involved in this situation. Has there been any postings about that ? I wouldn't be surprised at all, if they were known members of some sort of activist group.

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I hope that the Shop Manager fired by Starbucks, sues Starbucks for a sizable sum.

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@Katsu78 - your video's prove nothing. First off, I didnt see any Police in the first one, and the shooter was eventually arrested.

The second one, lacks a key bit of information - gun crime within the area in which the Video was shot - for example, was it shot within an area renown for of black vs black gang shootings ? (more topical, consider Black on Black knife crimes in London at present, maybe a similar comparison could be drawn there).

Third example, again, lacks information - perhaps this wako - "Lance Tamyo" was well known to the local police, hence their talking him out of being shot. But, I agree, it is well known that Black people do have the sigma as being seen more prone to aggressive and confrontational actions, and hence get disproportionately shot ... the actions of the so called "Gentlemen" in the Starbucks shop do nothing to help change that negative view point. It's sad to see the Barack Obama effect wearing off so quickly.

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Extanker; don't you think that at least SOME of the fault lies with the two men, who repeatedly refused to leave the premises? They were given at least 5 opportunities to vacate before they were arrested. Legally, the situation is absolutely crystal clear.

I didn't say that, just that none of the fault lies with the police. Right or wrong, the men should have left when they were repeatedly asked to, by the manager then by the police. By the time they were refusing the police order to leave, they knew they were legally in the wrong, but I think at that point they wanted to see how far they could push it.

the police had no choice but to arrest them.

I don't think that's true - I think police have discretionary power. That said, I'm open to you proving me wrong. Where is it written that they had to make an arrest?

The police were using their discretion when they initially and lawfully asked the men to leave, more than once. They could have arrested them on the spot for trespassing without even asking them anything if they chose to. Once the men refused, the police had no choice but to remove them, fortunately at that point the men complied. Had they got up and left, there would have been no arrest, it still would have been on video and Starbucks still would have been in the news for it. The men left the police little wiggle room by refusing their orders. What would you have had them do once the men refused to leave? They couldn't just tell the Starbucks manager 'sorry, they're not listening, so we're gonna just let them stay'.

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@Tommy Jones - "Law Enforcement officers" have to enforce the Law, there is, and should not be any discretion upon that, within any Country, since were that the case, it would facilitate corruption of Law enforcement, which would lead to anarchy in any Country.

Do you have any substantiated evidence to suggest otherwise - if so, please provide it, and enlighten us so that we may discuss further.

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And as the world turns, Tamika Mallory (Women's March co-chair and Louis Farrakhan devotee) is calling for a boycott of Starbucks because they included the Anti Defamation League in the group of advisers for their implicit bias training. Why? Because they're Jeeeewwwws.

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Mmwkdw, I agree in all points.

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Kuya 808, expect the libs to be silent on this one.

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Anyone expecting to use my business as a charity would also be asked to leave.

Black or white ? It doesn’t matter.

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