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Trump, Biden make their pitches to voters in pivotal Pennsylvania

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By Steve Holland and Ernest Scheyder

With eight days to go until the U.S. election, President Donald Trump addressed boisterous rallies in Pennsylvania while Democratic rival Joe Biden made a low-key appearance in the state considered crucial to the chances of victory for both men.

"We win Pennsylvania, we win the whole thing," the Republican president told cheering supporters in Allentown - the first of three stops in the state - as he predicted a win there despite trailing Biden in many opinion polls.

Biden made a small-scale appearance in the city of Chester, near Philadelphia, meeting with about a dozen campaign volunteers and speaking with reporters. Biden said he was "not overconfident about anything" and "with the grace of God" he would win Pennsylvania, the state where he was born.

"I think we're going to win Michigan, I think we're going to win Wisconsin. I think we're going to win Minnesota. I think have a fighting chance in Ohio. I think we have a fighting chance in North Carolina. We have a fighting chance in Georgia," Biden added, referring to other election battleground states.

Biden also stepped up his criticism of Trump's handling of a coronavirus pandemic that has killed roughly 225,000 Americans, saying, "The bottom line is, Donald Trump is the worst possible president, the worst possible person to lead us through this pandemic."

More than 60 million Americans already have cast ballots ahead of the Nov. 3 election, a record-breaking pace that could lead to the highest U.S. voter turnout by percentage in more than a century.

Surging coronavirus cases in many parts of the country have dominated the campaign, along with news of a COVID-19 outbreak within Vice President Mike Pence's staff. Pence, due in Minnesota, tested negative for the coronavirus on Monday, his office said, after multiple senior aides tested positive over the weekend.

Despite Biden's solid lead in national opinion polls, the contest appears tighter in the most critical battleground states that could decide the outcome. A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted from Oct. 20-26 gave Biden a narrow advantage over Trump in Pennsylvania.

A state where voters can swing toward either major party, Pennsylvania has been heavily courted with frequent visits by both candidates. Trump went from Allentown to Lititz and then was due to head to Martinsburg. Trump also planned multiple stops in Michigan and Wisconsin this week, as well as visits to Arizona, Nebraska and Nevada.

Trump told reporters he expects to win Pennsylvania by a larger margin than the narrow one he achieved in defeating Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Addressing supporters, Trump touched on what he called "an existential" issue for Pennsylvania, Biden's comment during last week's presidential debate that if elected he would "transition" the United States away from oil and natural gas.

"He wants to go with windmills that are made in Germany and China," Trump said, adding, "Biden's plan is an economic death sentence for Pennsylvania's energy sector."

In Chester, Biden defended his stance, saying, "I'm not shutting down oil fields. I'm not eliminating fracking. I'm investing in clean energy." Biden previously said the country should eventually replace oil with solar, wind and other forms of non-polluting power, adding that his plan for a more climate-friendly economy would create high-paying jobs and boost U.S. businesses.

PANDEMIC POLITICS

Record numbers of new U.S. COVID-19 cases in recent days have offered Biden's campaign a chance to remind voters of how Trump and his allies have played down the advice of public health experts to wear masks and observe social-distancing guidelines to battle the pandemic.

Trump lashed out at Biden on Monday, calling him "a pathetic candidate" while again asserting that his administration was"doing a great job" against the pandemic and saying again that the United States was "absolutely rounding the corner."

Biden again denounced White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows' comments on Sunday that the Trump administration was"not going to control the pandemic," and was instead focused on vaccines and therapeutics. Trump earlier on Monday disagreed with Meadows, saying "absolutely the opposite" was true.

Pence spoke at a campaign event in Hibbing, Minnesota. Police confirmed that there were more than 650 people in attendance, exceeding Minnesota state health guidelines to restrict crowds to 250 people amid the pandemic. Pence has headed the White House coronavirus task force.

Trump in Lititz, Pennsylvania, criticized international trade entities and complained about economic powerhouse China's status as a developing nation under World Trade Organization rules. "We want to be a developing nation also," Trump said.

Trump also won cheers from supporters when he touted his nomination of conservative appellate judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court "to defend our God-given freedoms."

The Republican-led Senate was expected to confirm Barrett to the lifetime job later in the day.

© Thomson Reuters 2020.

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Trump continuing to host super-spreading events and lie through his teeth. Nothing surprising here.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Trump has failed to deliver at all levels.

The perfect example is the Foxconn scam Trump and the governor of Wisconsin pulled on Americans. Billions of dollars in tax credits and fanfare/photo ops of groundbreaking ceremonies about Foxconn building factories, "innovation" centers and jobs, jobs, jobs for 13,000 Americans.

It never happened. Well, Foxconn was able to stroke Trumps ego to avoid tariffs and tweets from Trump. It's easy to manipulate a childlike, narcissist president.

Border walls? Yeah, right.

The S&P 500 has always performed better under every Democratic administration.

The deficit has been reduced by every Democratic administration since 1933 and exploded under every Republican administration, including Trump.

Trump has been wrong about every single thing.

The only thing he has delivered is division, pitting Americans against each other, a pathetic response to a pandemic and dragged the US into a swamp of corruption and hypocrisy.

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"The bottom line is, Donald Trump is the worst possible president, the worst possible person to lead us through this pandemic."

THE WORST POSSIBLE PRESIDENT indeed.

Trump's a failed war president. The deaths of 225,000 Americans under his watch, an economy in shambles (for all but his fellow 'elite') with NO plans to deal with the pandemic except through 'herd mentality' (quote Trump), with NO plans to help the dozens of millions of Americans suffering financially because of his ongoing bungling.

While Trump's family continue to use their WH positions to get even richer and his DC swamp becomes even more toxic.

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Many at the Trump event not wearing a mask.

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Biden made a small-scale appearance in the city of Chester, near Philadelphia, meeting with about a dozen campaign volunteers and speaking with reporters. 

After which Biden needed another nap because he is too old and worn out to continue such a hectic schedule. Almost a dozen campaign volunteers? Whew.

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President Trump has now pulled ahead of Biden in Pennsylvania by 2 points and surging after Biden's impossible gaffe in the debates to transition away from oil.

If the President holds this lead and wins Florida - which he almost certainly will - I don't see a path to victory for Biden.

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

I'd rather have an old President who takes naps but trusts his experts and has actual plans rather than the megalomaniac idiot who has destroyed the country over the last near 4 years.

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Trump has failed to deliver at all levels.

The perfect example is the Foxconn scam Trump and the governor of Wisconsin pulled on Americans. 

The aptly named Foxconn, touted by Trump as the "Eighth Wonder of the World", is symbolic of the malaise that has afflicted the country under the maladministration of the wannabe "Fox News Führer". Pennsylvania is showing "Trump fatigue" which will flip to its native son next week.

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Biden also stepped up his criticism of Trump's handling of a coronavirus pandemic that has killed roughly 225,000 Americans, saying, "The bottom line is, Donald Trump is the worst possible president, the worst possible person to lead us through this pandemic."

The bottom line is Biden is a relic of the old white establishment and nothing more than a cliche who’s mastered the art riding the bench for almost half a century. Besides, Biden said at the last debate he would do exactly as Trump is already doing to fight coronavirus.

Biden has nothing new to add to the fight against coronavirus except for closed businesses, high taxes and high unemployment. He literally speaks politician. For example, a psychic reader will always say: “I see you’re having money troubles.” And the fool goes, “wow, you really are a psychic”, not realizing virtually everyone has some form of money issues. So Biden says platitudes like: “I’m speaking to the little guy, the middle class family having a hard time putting food on the table, blah blah blah”. When the question was about his policy towards China. And why Joe will say to a crowd of black folks: “they gonna put y’all back in chains”, instead of taking to them about school vouchers. And the evidence goes on and on.

Trump is different. He speaks with conviction and not from a script written in the 80’s. Trump said he didn’t need to run for president, but as an American he saw the damage done to the country by 8 years of Obama and Biden. Trump was pissed at them, China, NAFTA, NATO, corrupt career democrats, illegal immigration, etc. For Trump it’s personal; for Biden, the money’s too easy and too good to stop now. Even after stuffing his pockets full for half a century.

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Trump is different. He speaks with conviction and not from a script written in the 80’s.

Hahahaha.

> Trump said he didn’t need to run for president, 

Trump says a lot of things, few of which are true or accurate.

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Many at the Trump event not wearing a mask.

Fight for what you believe in now or cry for what you lost later. People do have a choice.

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I'd rather have an old President who takes naps but trusts his experts and has actual plans

The problem is, a) Biden is geriatric; b) not only will he swallow any pill dr. Fauci gives him, but Biden will give all his power over to technocrats. And what plans does Biden have? All I’ve heard so far is a repeal of the Trump tax cuts, masks, shutdowns, and rapid testing, ban fracking and fossil fuels, and 500,000 new green jobs—although he doesn’t say what jobs and how to get them. But most likely jobs for highly-gifted engineers and software developers and AI wizards. So Joe’s not really looking out for the little guy. He lies when he says he is. So what plans? Because he’s already verified his coronavirus plan is the Trump plan already in place.

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I'd rather have an old President who takes naps but trusts his experts and has actual plans rather than the megalomaniac idiot who has destroyed the country over the last near 4 years.

How has he destroyed the country? Is that your personal opinion?

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Biden made a small-scale appearance in the city of Chester, near Philadelphia, meeting with about a dozen campaign volunteers and speaking with reporters.

He needs to up his game a bit and avoid snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Trump's rallies look lively and Biden looks a bit too sedate and plays to the message that he is an old man.

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I don't think any of this matters. People have made up their minds. It's all over except for the whining.

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 He speaks with conviction and not from a script written in the 80’s. 

"Conviction"? Trump would have to look that one up in a borrowed dictionary. Biden's home state should put him over the top next week since Trump only won this crucial swing state by 78,000 in 2016. The damage the incompetent, impeached Potus has done to America can only be undone by replacing him with Pennsylvania's (and the corrupt DNC's) favorite son, grandpa Biden whose frail condition means that his tenure will probably be mercifully short. Since justice matters, next year we can expect Trump to be "convicted", one of those "best words" he likes to boast about and does know the meaning of.

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THE WORST POSSIBLE PRESIDENT indeed.

Hardly.

Trump's a failed war president. The deaths of 225,000 Americans under his watch, an economy in shambles (for all but his fellow 'elite') with NO plans to deal with the pandemic except through 'herd mentality' (quote Trump), with NO plans to help the dozens of millions of Americans suffering financially because of his ongoing bungling.

Biden could never have done this any better. Trump did what the experts asked, closed the country down. Blocked China, the source of where this virus originated, created ventilators by the thousands as well as masks, almost every Democrat leader that worked with Trump during the high point said that the President has delivered on every promise, but even now with all the Federal help they’ve received, these Democrat governors and mayors still refuse to reopen their States and still could care less if people are hungry and can’t go to work, pay their bills, feed their families, they continue to suffer and these people will not allow the job creators to put these people back to work and as more people loss money Biden wants to raise taxes and punish the job creators...yeah, that’ll work.

While Trump's family continue to use their WH positions to get even richer

So basically, as private individuals, they’re not allowed to make money? Heartless.

and his DC swamp becomes even more toxic.

Biden is the epitome of a stewing swamp

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President Trump has now pulled ahead of Biden in Pennsylvania by 2 points 

According to whom?

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Trump's Dow down 650 today.

You can't get the economy moving until Covid is contained.

Economies recover but dead people don't.

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So basically, as private individuals, they’re not allowed to make money? Heartless.

When the Trump family have their snouts in the trough, it's absolutely fine, but if there is even a whiff that Hunter Biden may have done the same, the whole Biden clan should be strung up.

It's not just the double standards, it is people revealing in the fact that they are being screwed over by those they worship.

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Trump…. 'Joe Biden called me George yesterday. Couldn't remember my name.

'Got some help from the anchor to get him through the interview. The Fake News Cartel is working overtime to cover it up!'

Joe Biden’s Campaign Manager Greg Schultz and director of strategic communications Kamau Mandela Marshal need to get a grip.

Who is Joe Biden referring to, George W. (2001-09) or maybe George H.W. (1989-93) or perhaps Saint George (died 303) taming and slaying a dragon?

Joe Biden is handing Donald Trump the political opportunity to continue to humiliate, and cast doubt on Joe Biden metal capacity to deal with the day to day challenges, stress, associated with the Globes most powerful Office, President of the United  States of America.    

Also during a press call, Donald Trump's top campaign manager Bill Stepien referred to Minnesota Rep Ilhan Omar 'the most extreme, most dangerous' member of the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden mixes up Donald Trump with George Bush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj0DRjlfvhw

Where is Kamala Harris?

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Trump did what the experts asked, closed the country down.

Incorrect.

Blocked China, the source of where this virus originated,

Only kind of.

created ventilators by the thousands as well as masks, 

With his bare hands!

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@bob

President Trump has now pulled ahead of Biden in Pennsylvania by 2 points and surging after Biden's impossible gaffe in the debates to transition away from oil.

I wouldn’t bet the house on an InsiderAdvantage poll of 400 “likely” voters when it’s the only one of about 10 recent polls in PA showing Trump with any kind of lead. You noted that it shows Trump up by 2 points but you forgot to mention that it has a margin of error of 5.9.

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No, RCP Trump/ Biden 4 way spread, affords Jo Biden campaign a 7.8 point lead but be cautious of the time line, date of polling data collection methodology.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

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Incorrect.

No, Who was correct, and because of that it did save a lot of lives and thanks for the efforts of Trump in the medical experts they are working diligently to create a vaccine.

Only kind of.

....and Democrats still refuse to blame China as if Trump created it, if that is not mental madness, I don’t know what it is.

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Be aware of the MoE (margin of error).....If you are thinking of having a flutter (bet)...

Also how US public perception of Donald Trump handling of this pandemic and Joe Biden's solution, will/has affect voting intentions. The voting day turn out could be curial to which candidate, Twitter crazy Trump, or comatose Joe Biden gains office

Joe needs this Presidency like a hole in the head. Wife Jill is fully aware of this.

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Biden has already lost Pennsylvania with the fracking and oil/gas comments.

Just taking a few days for the polling to catch up to his comments.

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Noidall: Trump is different. He speaks with conviction and not from a script written in the 80’s. Trump said he didn’t need to run for president, but as an American he saw the damage done to the country by 8 years of Obama and Biden. Trump was pissed at them, China, NAFTA, NATO, corrupt career democrats, illegal immigration, etc. For Trump it’s personal

heh

"This time is different. Normally I wouldn't vote for the proven racist and P-grabber who steals from charities and can't go 5 minutes without lying, but Trump is pure. I know it in my heart. My heart of hearts. I looked into his soul and he looked into mine. The proven scam artist would never use me or hurt me or play me for a fool. I'm too special to him"

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Pennsylvania Dreamin'.....

All the voters are white

And the sky is gray

I've been for a walk

On an autumns day

I'd be sure of re-election

If I had a heart and brain

Pennsylvania dreamin' 

On such a autumn's day......

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Uh huh.

Just three days before Election Day in 2016, Muhlenberg College poll numbers showed Hillary Clinton holding a six point lead in Pennsylvania. Ultimately, Donald Trump would win the state by less than 1%.

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The Race Hasn’t Changed Much Since The Debate, And That’s Good For Biden

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-race-hasnt-changed-much-since-the-debate-and-thats-good-for-biden/

Michigan and Wisconsin are lost to Trump. Pennsylvania is slightly leaning Biden and Arizona and Florida are too close to call (within the margin of error).

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NY Times poll from 2016. Its shocking how badly we were misinformed last time

Hillary Clinton Leads by 7

Points in Pennsylvania Poll

By NATE COHN OCT. 27, 2016

-8 ( +2 / -10 )

Florida is now TRUMP!

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

538 got both the Presidential and Senate race wrong in 2016 for Pennsylvania. dont know why you would be referencing them this time.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/pennsylvania/

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Blacklabel: 538 got both the Presidential and Senate race wrong in 2016 for Pennsylvania. dont know why you would be referencing them this time.

I clearly said "slightly leaning Biden" with a 5% lead. Not sure how much softer I can put it.

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I also find it interesting when Biden is winning by 1% its "leaning Biden" and all the electoral maps are colored for him and the votes are added to his total.

But when Trump is leading by 1% it "too close to call/within the margin of error" and he doesnt get the votes in his total.

Weve seen all this before, you know.

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

Nate Silver is a joke, he posted 12 hours ago that Biden is "very narrowly" ahead in Texas and Georgia.

Sure he is, Nate. Sure he is.

-8 ( +3 / -11 )

Blacklabel: But when Trump is leading by 1% it "too close to call/within the margin of error" and he doesnt get the votes in his total.

Enough of the victimization talk. It's tiresome to listen to the constant whining from the right.

I fully agree that Trump has a chance of winning. At the end of the day it all comes down to who actually votes, not which candidate people like or support. I'm happy with the position that Biden is in. It's better than being on the other side of the coin and hoping everyone is wrong again.

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Michigan and Wisconsin are lost to Trump. Pennsylvania is slightly leaning Biden and Arizona and Florida are too close to call (within the margin of error).

Hardly.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/12/opinions/us-elections-2020-michigan-conservatives-finley/index.html

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/26/all-signs-point-to-one-thing-were-reliving-the-2016-election/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wisconsin-was-never-a-safe-blue-state/

-9 ( +2 / -11 )

bass: Hardly.

Like I said, Trump will always have a chance of winning. I just find it to be low odds that he's going to squeak out 10,000 vote victories again.

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"I think we're going to win Michigan, I think we're going to win Wisconsin. I think we're going to win Minnesota. I think have a fighting chance in Ohio. I think we have a fighting chance in North Carolina...

Yeah, Biden also thinks he never said he was against fracking.

CNN is giving Biden a 10 point lead in Pennsylvania so I guess Trump is toast there, haha, lol

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Well, one campaign is holding bio-terrorism events...

*The president has participated in nearly three dozen rallies since mid-August, all but two at airport hangars. A USA TODAY analysis shows COVID-19 cases grew at a faster rate than before after at least five of those rallies in the following counties: Blue Earth, Minnesota; Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; Marathon, Wisconsin; Dauphin, Pennsylvania; and Beltrami, Minnesota. * Together, those counties saw 1,500 more new cases in the two weeks following Trump’s rallies than the two weeks before – 9,647 cases, up from 8,069.

And also spreading misinformation...

*With the pandemic getting worse, not better, President Donald Trump tried to turn reality on its head during a series of rallies on Saturday in North Carolina, Ohio, and Wisconsin. “We’re rounding the turn. Our numbers are incredible,” Trump claimed in Lumberton, North Carolina, before blasting the media for its alleged fear-mongering. *But the US is not rounding a turn for the better. Friday and Saturday saw new daily coronavirus infections in the US surge past 80,000 for the first time ever. And it’s not just cases — hospitalizations are up more than 33 percent over the last month, and the seven-day average of deaths is now back above 800.

https://www.vox.com/2020/10/25/21533030/trump-pandemic-rallies-coronavirus-misinformation

The Trump mantra - kill and lie to Americans...

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Joe needs this Presidency like a hole in the head. Wife Jill is fully aware of this.

And America needs either of these two like a hole in the head. Unfortunately, too many voters are barely aware of this. An American tragedy! To be continued...

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Like I said, Trump will always have a chance of winning. I just find it to be low odds that he's going to squeak out 10,000 vote victories again.

I think this time, it should be a landslide for him. Biden looks on paper, but you do need a fan base, a billionaire from Europe can’t think buying an election is what the country wants, I get it, he wants to help Biden, but there’s no enthusiasm there and every Democrat knows it.

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Think it is increasingly unlikely that Biden can beat George Trump.  Not only does he not know where he is, he doesn't seem to remember who he is running against.  Also I saw a clip of him being asked one of three questions on his short trip today and he got totally lost and confused....  His team had to shepherd him away from the press.

Even if Trump is a blowhard and all and even if you have doubts about some of his policies (although in some cases - like no new wars and focus on helping less fortunate Americans he has done ok), Americans surely cannot want to put the levers of power into the hands of some demented old man.

And as for Kamala, anyone who saw her on 60 minutes or on Rachel Madows (Sh**) show, she comes across as the most frivolous, insincere and fatuous person to ever want her in power.

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Like I said, Trump will always have a chance of winning. I just find it to be low odds that he's going to squeak out 10,000 vote victories again.

I think this time, it should be a landslide for him. Biden looks on paper, but you do need a fan base, a billionaire from Europe can’t think buying an election is what the country wants, I get it, he wants to help Biden, but there’s no enthusiasm there and every Democrat knows it.

I think this time, it should be a landslide against him. Biden looks good on paper, but you do need a cult, and an autocrat from Russia can’t fool us twice, I get it, he wants to help his Puppet, but there’s no enthusiasm there and every Repub knows it. Just Herman Cain...

Fixed it for you...

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Think it is increasingly unlikely that Biden can beat George Trump. Not only does he not know where he is, he doesn't seem to remember who he is running against. Also I saw a clip of him being asked one of three questions on his short trip today and he got totally lost and confused.... His team had to shepherd him away from the press.

That was a joke, right? George Trump? You actually didn't mean that, did you? You calling the President George Trump while saying Biden was lost and confused?

Satire, right?

If not, that really sums up Trump-world better than Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel ever could...

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

Like I said, Trump will always have a chance of winning. I just find it to be low odds that he's going to squeak out 10,000 vote victories again.

I think this time, it should be a landslide for him.

Define landslide. How many states? Will he win the popular vote this time?

Remember that last time you dismissed Trump as the leader of a ‘lunatic fringe’ and said Clinton would win. Be careful with your predictions.

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Ad the bad news in the last days of a failed Trump campaign just keep getting worse....

New Hampshire Union Leader Breaks More Than 100 Years Of Tradition By Backing Biden. The conservative newspaper praised the Democratic candidate as “the president we desperately need” while blasting Trump as “100 percent wrong for America. “President Trump is not always 100 percent wrong, but he is 100 percent wrong for America,” the editorial board wrote Sunday. “Mr. Trump rightly points out that the COVID-19 crisis isn’t his fault, but a true leader must own any situation that happens on their watch. We may be turning a corner with this virus, but the corner we turned is down a dark alley of record infections and deaths.”

Ouch....and that's from a conservative outlet...

-1 ( +2 / -3 )

and right on cue, BLM rioting and setting police cars on fire in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

Are you guys holding a competition to see who can get the most downvotes? I realize that you all desperately need some sort of self-validation, but is this really the right way to go about getting it?

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As for the notion of Joe somehow "controlling the virus" that is equally laughable.  how has "controlling the virus" gone in the rest of the infected world?

Only region that appears to have done reasonably well is East Asia........

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and right on cue, BLM rioting and setting police cars on fire in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Sure, maybe like this BLM member...

A member of the far-right anti-government Boogaloo Bois has been charged with opening fire on a Minneapolis police precinct while pretending to be a Black Lives Matter protester, according to the federal complaint against him.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/boogaloo-bois-minneapolis-precinct-antifa_n_5f938cdfc5b6a2e1fb616689

As for the notion of Joe somehow "controlling the virus" that is equally laughable. how has "controlling the virus" gone in the rest of the infected world?

I assume you think "George Trump" has done it better...

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how has "controlling the virus" gone in the rest of the infected world?

Well, the US population is less than 5% of the world population but the DEATH count from COVID is almost 20% of the world total. It looks like a lot of places must be doing better than the US under Trump...

-2 ( +2 / -4 )

Trump is the only candidate that really knows how to campaign, Biden has been on a free ride for 47 years and now realizes he has to work a little to win. He understands he can never keep up with the pace due to his age and elitist mindset, so of course he has recruited Kamala and Obama to do his stump work. Go figure.

-2 ( +3 / -5 )

@Seapig Does any nation on God's earth, other than the US, give an extra $17K premium to a medical facility and doctor for declaring on the death certificate that a patient died of Covid? Proof of actual Covid cause of death is not required. Do you have any further questions as to why the Covid death rate is so high? Who in their right mind would refuse a fast $17K?

Carlos Salinas de Gortari was credited with saying "a poor politician is a poor politician". Biden is not a poor politician. Check out young Biden at gtv.org/web

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

@Seapig Does any nation on God's earth, other than the US, give an extra $17K premium to a medical facility and doctor for declaring on the death certificate that a patient died of Covid? Proof of actual Covid cause of death is not required. Do you have any further questions as to why the Covid death rate is so high? Who in their right mind would refuse a fast $17K?

No, and it doesn't happen in the US, either.

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@ Blue Sausage

This baseless story has been going around among the tin foil hat crowd although the amounts are usually different. However, there is absolutely no evidence of fraudulent reporting to receive a higher Medicare rate and, in fact, based on “excess deaths” the number of COVID deaths in the US is actually being underreported.

5 ( +6 / -1 )

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