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Trump blasts 'foolish' UK PM May and her 'wacky' envoy over leaked memos

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This is pretty funny.

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This is pretty funny.

Though I'm sure the Bannon-Brietbart/Putin crowd are pleased to watch Trump continue to jeopardize relations with historic allies, I find zero humor in having a fool like Trump continue to do so. His juvenile antics suggest a rapidly diminishing capacity, perhaps age-related, perhaps Adderall related.

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The emperor has no skin.

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"We don't really believe this Administration is going to become substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable; less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept," Darroch wrote in one cable.

If any other ambassadors' cables got leaked I think we'd find they all said pretty much the same thing.

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"pompous fool"

There goes Trump talking about himself again. Sir Kim was being kind ---- moreover, he was stating fact.

This headline should read: Trump Proves British Ambassador's Assessment of Him is Spot-on Accurate

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"The wacky Ambassador that the UK foisted upon the United States is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy," Trump wrote, describing Darroch as a "pompous fool".

Donnie, as for pompous fool, I'm betting the Ambassador can remember where his father was born, that there are no new "Sherman tanks", and that his country didn't have any airfields on US soil in 1776...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/03/trump-claims-father-born-germany-false-fred-trump

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/07/02/trump-touts-brand-new-world-war-ii-era-tank-display-at-fourth-of-july-celebration/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/05/us/politics/trump-airports-revolutionary-war.html

So, you're either a pompous fool or it's full blown Alzheimer's....

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"He should speak to his country, and Prime Minister May, about their failed Brexit negotiation, and not be upset with my criticism of how badly it was handled. I told @theresa_may how to do that deal, but she went her own foolish way - was unable to get it done. A disaster!"

So much deflection, emotion, and hypocrisy here.

The ambassador was not commenting on Donny's mouthing off about Brexit, he was criticizing Donny's general incompetence and ignorance.

Donny's incessant whining and attacking in a childish manner those who criticize him is stale. Instead of getting things done, he chooses to watching hours of TV and engage in pettiness on twitter.

The reason I have never supported Donny is because I'm a rational adult.

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Well, I knew that was coming. Good call out. If Darroch is willing to inject his personal feelings about the President he’s the biggest fool on the planet to think the President would sit by and let that personal criticism go unchallenged.

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If Darroch is willing to inject his personal feelings about the President he’s the biggest fool on the planet

That's literally his job. His honest opinions are what his government pays him to give.

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Trump is really off his chump this time. He is just confirming everything Sir Kim said about him.

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SneezyToday  09:47 am JST

"If Darroch is willing to inject his personal feelings about the President he’s the biggest fool on the planet"

That's literally his job. His honest opinions are what his government pays him to give.

And give them in strict confidence, which is what he did. The person most at fault here is whoever leaked the cables to The Daily Mail.

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@bas4 the President would sit by and let that personal criticism go unchallenged.

Too bad thin-skinned (could that have caused his bone spurs?) Trump didn't challenge the below bit of fake news he called 'cute'.

Donald Trump just shared a tweet with a fake quote from Ronald Reagan praising him

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-tweet-with-fake-ronald-reagan-quote-praising-him-2019-7

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That's literally his job. His honest opinions are what his government pays him to give.

The same goes for the President, so no one should complain either way. Let these grown men Duke it out.

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If Darroch is willing to inject his personal feelings about the President he’s the biggest fool on the planet to think the President would sit by and let that personal criticism go unchallenged.

As I mentioned yesterday, this is not his "personal feelings" - this is his professional assessment as the UK representative to our country. I've read hundreds of cables our Ambassadors have sent and we do the same thing, as does every other government.

Sir Darroch was extremely measured in his comments - I've seen much worse.

And again, as I've said before, he could have easily assessed that Trump was a serial liar, con-man, Russia-lover, and in the latest stages of dementia.

Given the cesspool that is Trump-world, he was being complimentary...Donnie ought to thank him instead of countering with the typical fifth grade level insults...

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Lol, May must now regret sticking her neck out against popular opinion in Britain of inviting Trump - when Trump would turn on a "friend" so quickly

(There's probably a lesson out there for Shinzo Abe)

An ambassador's first and foremost duty is to his/her country of service, not the nation or leader that he's posted to (that's secondary priority)

An ambassador would be doing his/her country a disservice if not giving his/her most candid assessment of the situation. His/her country must know everything that he/she knows - no secrets between them. That means no holding back - because the country needs as much information as they can gather in order to use to their advantage

And this goes for US ambassadors posted on other countries too. Ya think US ambassadors aren't this candid in secret cables back to the State Dept?

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Is he done with his tantrum or will there be more? He seems to really be upset by this.

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As I mentioned yesterday, this is not his "personal feelings" - this is his professional assessment as the UK representative to our country.

No, that’s his straight up personal opinion, he is not Dr. Drew and he is not a psycho analyst. If he makes an assessment is for us on a professional level that is his opinion. Equally the president can also give his personal assessment of how the man is doing his job as well as his conduct.

Sir Darroch was extremely measured in his comments - I've seen much worse.

For all the years that I have been doing this job, I have seen more bias coming from the Brits about every conservative president and frankly, it’s a breath of fresh air that someone is fighting back and calling them out.

And again, as I've said before, he could have easily assessed that Trump was a serial liar, con-man, Russia-lover, and in the latest stages of dementia. 

Please keep the Russia conspiracy comments coming, they’re helpful to Trump and Pence 2020.

Given the cesspool that is

The Washington elite and that won’t change anytime soon. None of the childish outburst from these politicians are going to do anything to change that, in fact it might end up becoming their political demise.

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As I mentioned yesterday, this is not his "personal feelings" - this is his professional assessment as the UK representative to our country.

No, that’s his straight up personal opinion, he is not Dr. Drew and he is not a psycho analyst. If he makes an assessment is for us on a professional level that is his opinion. Equally the president can also give his personal assessment of how the man is doing his job as well as his conduct.

Wrong. Ambassadors, and other diplomatic personnel, are trained to provide assessments of other political leaders. Donnie can't offer professional advice on anything, well, maybe sexual assault and bankruptcy.

Sir Darroch was extremely measured in his comments - I've seen much worse.

For all the years that I have been doing this job, I have seen more bias coming from the Brits about every conservative president and frankly, it’s a breath of fresh air that someone is fighting back and calling them out.

Yea, Reagan and Thatcher hated each other...

And again, as I've said before, he could have easily assessed that Trump was a serial liar, con-man, Russia-lover, and in the latest stages of dementia. 

Please keep the Russia conspiracy comments coming, they’re helpful to Trump and Pence 2020.

I notice you selectively responded to only the Russia comment - glad to see you agree with the others. And I agree with you, Trumpers love Russia and Putin - they helped get their savior elected - that's why you see so many MAGA hat wearers waving the Russian flag...

Given the cesspool that is

The Washington elite and that won’t change anytime soon. None of the childish outburst from these politicians are going to do anything to change that, in fact it might end up becoming their political demise.

As we've seen with the Epstein case, "GOP" needs to change to "PPPP" - Pervert Platoon Protecting Pedophiles...

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Ahhh Trump , the Enemy of our Friends and the Friend of our Enemies.

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The truth can be so painful, especially if you're as thin skinned as Donald Trump.

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When you see Trump picking up fights with friendly countries, putting long standing alliances at risk, you understand why the Russians wanted him to win.

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Just too hilarious that Swamp, one of the stupidest and most pompous people in the world, accuses someone else of suffering from his own defects!

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I don't think anyone is faulting the...ah, "Brits" in any of this except brainwashed Trumpophiles, and if they think Trump's Twitter rant responses to critics is going to stop them then they're clearly delusional. I suppose the next UK ambassador may be given strict instructions by Trump's good chum PM-to-be Boris Johnson only to be grovellingly sycophantic, although he probably won't want anyone to leak that.

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theeastisredToday  11:29 am JST

Just too hilarious that Swamp, one of the stupidest and most pompous people in the world, accuses someone else of suffering from his own defects!

Right, and the way his flatterers go on you'd think he was taking them down street style, like Charles Bronson in Death Wish. In actual fact everyone else just thinks it's funny.

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"I do not know the Ambassador, but he is not liked or well thought of within the US," Trump tweeted.

A strange thing to say about someone he's met several times. Well, if he doesn't even recall knowing or meeting the British ambassador the criticisms may be totally justified.

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Let these grown men Duke it out.

In no way, can Trump be described as an adult. He's a man baby, given to tantrums and pooping on his own doorstep.

For all the years that I have been doing this job,

What job? One doesn't get paid for posting comments on a discussion forum.

I have seen more bias coming from the Brits about every conservative president and frankly, it’s a breath of fresh air that someone is fighting back and calling them out.

This is blatant nonsense. The British governments have toadied up to successive US Presidents and maintained a dignified calm when the US interferes abroad. And Trump is interfering with British politics, make no mistake about it. Look at his silence regarding comments that his favorite PM to be, made about Trump, a while back.

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Here are some examples of ambassadors being candid in private cables to their home countries about their hosts. Ya should see what they wrote about Hitler, even years before he started WW2 in 1939:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/the-not-so-secret-history-of-ambassadors-trashing-their-hosts-20190709-p525eo.html

"His comments are entirely unsurprising from a historical perspective," Calder Walton, a British lawyer and a fellow at Harvard University, wrote in an email. "Ambassadors rely on being able to give frank [often undiplomatic] opinions about their resident countries."

In many instances, sending these unfavourable messages back home is one of the most important aspects of the job.

Extreme examples of this were the foreign ambassadors stationed in Berlin during the reign of Adolf Hitler. Though the rise of the Nazi leader was often met with carefully considered language in public, in private ambassadors would offer scathing assessments of the man.

Hitler was an unusual, and uniquely alarming, historical case. But these unvarnished views of world leaders by ambassadors are not rare and the assessments are designed to help craft foreign policy.

What is unusual about Darroch's remarks about Trump is not that he made them. It's that they leaked. In general, ambassador's real views of their host countries are never published while they are in the country. They are only later released to the public, generally by scholars rather than journalists (most of the above examples are from American historian Abraham Ascher).

Leaks are unusual, and can be embarrassing. In 2010, the release of tens of thousands of US diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks provided unflattering American assessments of a variety of world leaders.

But often the worst criticism was reserved for allies. American diplomats dubbed Nicolas Sarkozy, then president of France, as "thin-skinned" and an "emperor with no clothes". Italy's Silvio Berlusconi was "'feckless, vain and ineffective," while Britain's Gordon Brown was described as an "abysmal" prime minister who lurched from "disaster to disaster".

US ambassadors do it too. Actually, all ambassadors do it too.

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Is it any surprise that Trumpophiles have no clue what the job of ambassador entails? Is it any surprise that Trumpophiles excuse Donny acting like a 7 year old on twitter by saying it's great to have a president that punches back?

These people have the maturity and intellectual capacity of 7 year olds, so none of this should be a surprise to us rational adults.

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I don't understand why these people would think that an ambassador would report a moron for being a moron.

They do realize he's a moron, right?

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lostrune2Today  03:04 pm JST

US ambassadors do it too. Actually, all ambassadors do it too.

It's a bit surprising that has to be pointed out, but I suspect the people going on about Sir Kim Darroch are totally okay with US ambassadors being candid about foreign leaders they disapprove of.

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I suspect the people going on about Sir Kim Darroch are totally okay with US ambassadors being candid about foreign leaders they disapprove of.

They love straight talkers except when those straight talkers are talking about them.

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Haha

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Awww!

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The ambassador's remarks were part of his job spec. Professional.

The leak is damaging, to be sure. Not professional.

Trump having a meltdown like a four year old. Not professional.

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Trump having a meltdown like a four year old. Not professional.

Not professional, but par for the course. This is what happens when an imbecile is elected to the highest office in the US.

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I don't see any Trump fans here debating the contents of the memo.

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SuperLibJuly 10  08:53 pm JST

I don't see any Trump fans here debating the contents of the memo.

Some were but they couldn't manage to say anything worth a response.

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This leak of diplomatic cables, a trivial matter in itself, is causing profound aftershocks for USUK relations that might rumble on for some time. The hapless Julian Assange is fortunate that it was not Wikileaks but Goebbels's favorite newspaper, the Daily Mail, that published the leak, otherwise he would be renditioned to suffer a draconian jail sentence at the behest of the vindictive bully in the White House.

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While Hunt stated he would support Kim Darroch, Boris said he wouldn't. Could influence the final outcome of the leadership race.

Can't stand either of them, but Johnson is particularly craven on this matter. The whole thing shows that the so-called "special relationship" is pure bunkum.

And make no mistake about it, Trump is interfering with the UK political process.

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In the cables, Darroch uses ‘we’

Maybe, that is the Royal ‘we’ ?

Maybe he is speaking on behalf of the citizens of the UK?

And now he has resigned!

If he’d had belief in his comments then he would not have done so.

Or is it a case of falling on ones sword for the greater good?

If so, how chivalrous.

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