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Cue the Putin-ophiles with their attempts to hide Russia's involvements. Cue the Trump-ophiles with their attempts to hide their political messiah's dirty laundry.

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I'm sure Trump has a perfectly treasonable explanation for firing the FBI director.

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I'm sure Trump has a perfectly treasonable explanation for firing the FBI director.

I see some comments about "this russia thing getting worse and worse." Has anyone listed even one single shred of actual evidence to show any collusion between Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin? Or any other Russian political figure or apparatchik? 

 

This entire Russia scare-mongering nonsensical story line is ridiculous, main stream media fake news. Anyone: 

 

Show / list the evidence 

Describe exactly how Russia has infiltrated the U.S. federal government 

Explain the impact made directly by Russia on the election 

 

Guess what? There are no incontrovertible facts to be found in this witch hunt. 

 

Comey was a dissatisfied Democrat who wanted Hillary to win and who was completely inept. The FBI should be above partisan politics. Comey clearly was not. In addition, Comey circumvented well known FBI policy in his public comments about Hillary's criminal email handling and his usurping of the Justice Department's role in making the decision to em-panel a grand jury and/or indict Hillary Clinton. The Obama FBI and Justice Department were a filthy, partisan mess. 

 

Trump IS draining the swamp; and he doesn't care if it looks bad to idiot Democrats. 

 

Now, firing Comey DOES NOT STOP ANY ACTIVE INVESTIGATIONS. Including any investigations into Trump/Russia collusion or treasonous acts. Comey investigates NOTHING; he's the figure head and a political appointee. The only way to look at a politician is down. The only way to look at political appointees is as lap dogs of a nearly worthless group of people who have and are ruining this country by bankrupting it with out of control spending and running around inflaming passions about little, minor issues.

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Cue the Putin-ophiles with their attempts to hide Russia's involvements. Cue the Trump-ophiles with their attempts to hide their political messiah's dirty laundry.

Keep looking for those nuggets.

@8T

100% Agreed!

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Where there's smoke, there's fire. And there's an awful lot of smoke.

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They hypocrisy of the right continues. Remember how they went on about Hillary being guilty, even after investigations showed she wasn't? And now there is an ongoing investigation into Dear Leader, and they are claiming he's definitely innocent.

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My flutter that Trump won't last 4 years is still looking like a sound investment. Certainly better than investing in anything to do with this charlatan's business.

4 months in and the stench is is overwhelming.

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Makes sense, he needs Putin's approval for his next pick as FBI director

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I'm sure Trump has a perfectly treasonable explanation for firing the FBI director.

It is called "I am the President."

The Dems wanted him fired until....Trump did it

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Hillary being guilty, even after investigations showed she wasn't? 

Oh wow, she wasn't guilty eh? Might want to check your sources. Not only did the FBI prove she was guilty, it was also proven that the DNC fixed the primaries for her so she could lose to the most unpopular person in history. Now Bernie supporters are suing the DNC for their money back. But yes, not guilty at all. That is why everyone voted for her right?

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Not only did the FBI prove she was guilty, it was also proven that the DNC fixed the primaries for her so she could lose to the most unpopular person in history.

Fake news.

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Fake news.

Really, try googling "Donna Brasil CNN" and "podesta emails"

Matter of fact, do not even both because both of these people have admitted what they did! But hey, must be fake if it does not fit your agenda

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They hypocrisy of the right continues. Remember how they went on about Hillary being guilty, even after investigations showed she wasn't?

Hypocrisy? Comey never said, she wasn't guilty, unlesss the left tries to alter the video of his testimony, he just didn't indict her which was in itself astonishing. But at the same time, the left excoriated Comey for his handling the Clinton email scandal, but praised him when he opened the Trump/Russia investigation, now he's a hero at the same time on the right, they exploded (as they should have) over the fact charges weren't brought up, then Comey throws and Easter egg a few days before the election which in a very small part gives Trump of a bigger advantage in the race, helping him, the guy played both sides, didn't want to offend either side, you just can't do that, The guy had to go and it's a good thing for the country,

My flutter that Trump won't last 4 years is still looking like a sound investment.

Naw, he'll be fine, once the ACA is properly fixed and tax reform is implemented, he would have enshrined his next 4 years.

Certainly better than investing in anything to do with this charlatan's business. 

4 months in and the stench is is overwhelming.

Dems then need to wash their mouth with soap, then perhaps we clear the stench in Washington.

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Dems then need to wash their mouth with soap, then perhaps we clear the stench in Washington.

You're not going to drain the swamp or clear the stench with the amount of doo doo being generated by the Trump administration.

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Wow I was trying to keep the discourse on a semi-intelligent level.

With lies like "Not only did the FBI prove she was guilty, it was also proven that the DNC fixed the primaries for her so she could lose to the most unpopular person in history."

I don't think so.

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she wasn't guilty eh?

Yeah, remember how she didn't go to trial because they didn't have any evidence of her doing anything that could be prosecuted? That trial that never happened, and therefore she's not guilty?

Or have you guys scrapped the premise of innocent until proven guilty? I hadn't seen that Dear Leader had put that out there, but it doesn't surprise me that it's on the table now.

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@8T Comey was a dissatisfied Democrat 

Alt fact.

From Wikipedia: Although Comey was a registered Republican for most of his adult life, he disclosed during Congressional testimony on July 7, 2016, that he is no longer registered in any party.[1] Comey donated to U.S. Senator John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 presidential election and to Governor Mitt Romney’s campaign in the 2012 presidential election.[130]

Guess what? There are no incontrovertible facts to be found in this witch hunt. 

Your opinion, shout it as loud as you want, but you cannot KNOW this unless you have been directly involved or are a member of one of the many intelligence agencies worldwide. The only people who can know with any degree of certainty are people like Flynn (the mole?), others who've been doing business with the Russians like Rex Tillerson, and those in the intelligence services. Hopefully the truth will come out.

The only way to look at political appointees is as lap dogs of a nearly worthless group of people who have and are ruining this country by 

trying to set up an one-party state for the benefit of the oligarchs. And with Trump and the Republicans running the country, it seems to be happening.

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Regarding Comey here are the facts:

He was appointed by Bush, and was a well-known Republican supporter

Obama kept him because Comey had history of not being political when he decided things

These are facts but the biggest fact is EVERY Dem wanted him fired until... Trump did it

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Yeah, remember how she didn't go to trial because they didn't have any evidence of her doing anything that could be prosecuted? 

It was proven that she misused and abused her email situation putting classified information at risk, this is not debatable. Whether she should be tried or jailed is beyond my scope of knowledge but guilty of misusing/abusing information without a shadow of a doubt.

Guilty of fixing the Dem primaries? Well the DNC is, and they are currently being sued by Bernie supporters for being bilked of their donations to a fixed election.

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It was proven that she misused and abused her email situation putting classified information at risk, this is not debatable.

Imagine if it had been Hillary at Mar A Lago with Abe, discussing the DPRK in a public dining room.

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It is called "I am the President."

The Dems wanted him fired until....Trump did it

And Trump praised Comey... until he became the target of investigation. He's purging the government of those who can expose and stop him. The right would have gone crazy if Obama fired the Benghazi investigators.

That some Democrats wanted him fired is irrelevant. Trump actually did it while under investigation. It's completely unprecedented, but his supporters will stand by anything.

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 If you want to swallow the Trump propaganda

I am not a Trump supporter. I am a truth supporter with no agenda

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@dango These are facts but the biggest fact is EVERY Dem wanted him fired until... Trump did it

EVERY dem wanted him fired? A true 'truth supporter' would back that up with facts; factual facts, actual facts, ones that can be verified.

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Remember Trump's "truth" campaign against Obama? A lot of hot air but no facts.

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Just sloppy, DB. There is no such goverment official called Brasil, but there is a country by that name. So telling us to google it seems like a diversion. Doesn't add credibility.

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I won't buy the big Russian conspiracy until there's evidence, but that's what the investigation is for. By firing a man who he previously had nothing but praise for, Trump is disrupting the investigation. That's the big truth I don't see you "independent thinkers" mentioning.

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Dems tried to shut down the Senate to get him fired:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/10/15610894/democrats-comey-senate-shutdown

Schumer, Pelosi, Reid all have quotes about firing him, you can google (I do nto have to feed all the info to you right?)

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Schumer, Pelosi, Reid all have quotes about firing him, you can google (I do nto have to feed all the info to you right?)

Were they under investigation? Context matters.

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Dems then need to wash their mouth with soap, then perhaps we clear the stench in Washington

With the potty-mouthed, p___y grabbing birther in the White House? You'll need more than soap for that task. The place will need to be fumigated and then exorcised to restore hygiene and dignity to that place.

I think arguments about lowering the tone are a little bemusing coming from the Trump supporters - even those late on the whooping bandwagon.

Anyway, this whole business stinks.

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What most people fail to see is that there are more than two sides. If the Dems who blame Hillary's loss on gerrymandering and Comey do not open their eyes to the third side, the will implode. The third side is progressives who support money out of politics, the same people the Dems are trying to stifle in their own party

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@dangoDems tried to shut down the Senate to get him fired:

I probably agree that many, maybe most Democrats wanted him fired, but you wrote EVERY. That's the truth.

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Which side? I voted for Obama and did not vote for Trump. So which side does that make me?

I was talking about the content of your comments. I'm a Bernie supporter that wants the true progressive wing to take over the Dems too, but based on facts and truth, I'd take Neo-Libs over Trump any day.

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@PT thanks for getting hung on syntax without seeing the point

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It is called "I am the President."

The Dems wanted him fired until....Trump did it

The Dems wanted him fired until he couldn't harm them anymore.

The damage was already done to the Dems. Now this straight laced robot was aimed at Trump, so yes they wanted him to stay because he was credible and was pursuing Trump's ties to Russia.

Comey is so straight laced, he was basically stupid. His go to expletive was "Lordy". It probably has to do with the screening needed to appoint someone as the director of the FBI that they get someone so straight laced.

We know how stringent Trump's screening is. Just look at Flint's screening. Do you admire and support Trump? You are hired... Oh, we don't care about the violations of law. If you don't write them down, we won't check them.

So, the next FBI director will be a Trump tool and unfit for the job. The core FBI agents will really like that and will work against Trump.

"I am the President" as a justification is dangerous. Sure, he has the power, but was it a smart use of the power.

Now, the public is focused on the Russia investigation because the firing was plainly a result of Comey in the spotlight saying he was investigating Trump associates, issuing new subpoenas, and asking for more money to expand the investigation.

Not to mention Trump angered FBI agents who will now have a grudge against Trump and will be more aggressive in the investigation (read: secretly break the law to get the evidence needed to convict). The agents are generally smart and all are educated, so they will not buy his obfuscation, like his supporters will.

So, the right to exercise the power to get rid of Comey will end up biting him on the butt.

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How does Putin keep all these people quiet?

He gets the Donald to do his dirty work.

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 they wanted him to stay because he was credible and was pursuing Trump's ties to Russia.

Firstly I have not heard one Dem say anything supporting Comey one time EVER so this is not true

Now, the public is focused on the Russia investigation

I agree but honestly I do not think they will find anything.

"I am the President" as a justification is dangerous. Sure, he has the power, but was it a smart use of the power.

That should be dabated BEFORE electing him not after

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Yeah, remember how she didn't go to trial because they didn't have any evidence of her doing anything that could be prosecuted? That trial that never happened, and therefore she's not guilty?

Ok, if you say that, then Trump didn't grab women by the.....and he didn't insult the Khan family. Now be far, Strange. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Or have you guys scrapped the premise of innocent until proven guilty? I hadn't seen that Dear Leader had put that out there, but it doesn't surprise me that it's on the table now.

Oh, so now the left and you guys care about being innocent until proven guilty, so when does that apply? Only to liberals? Good lord.....

And Trump praised Comey... until he became the target of investigation. He's purging the government of those who can expose and stop him. The right would have gone crazy if Obama fired the Benghazi investigators.

Yes, so you're making my point for me, Comey was playing both sides and both sides praised him until he switched and brought up dirt on the other. It came to the point where Comey became the main issue for everything.

That some Democrats wanted him fired is irrelevant. Trump actually did it while under investigation. It's completely unprecedented, but his supporters will stand by anything.

What? Tie me to a tree and slap me with jelly and jam! So now it's irrelevant that Dems wanted him fired, so let me get this, as long as he stays this investigation responsive, but if uses anything against Hillary he's the devil and should be fired. Dems are the funniest people on the planet.

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Yes, so you're making my point for me, Comey was playing both sides and both sides praised him until he switched and brought up dirt on the other.

The problem with Comey was the way he handled the release of information. During the campaign, he revealed that Clinton was under investigation without mentioning that Trump or at least his associates were too. That damaged Clinton, and so Dems were upset. I think Clinton had a host of other problems that led to her loss, but the one-sided leaks definitely played a part.

What? Tie me to a tree and slap me with jelly and jam! So now it's irrelevant that Dems wanted him fired...

Like I said in a previous comment, context (and timing) matters. The Dems are no longer under serious investigation and don't really have to power to fire Comey anyway. Their opinions don't change the fact that Trump fired the head of the organization currently investigating him... So yes, irrelevant.

Again, the right would have gone wild if the same happened during the Benghazi investigations. There's a reason why this sort of thing has never happened before... It makes the target of investigation look guilty as sin.

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Foreign Minister needs to remind Trump they still have the video tape of the pee party he joined, among other things.

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Mr Trump, you can start packing your things for the move back to Trump Tower. Not to worry, after you resign, Pence will do "a Gerald Ford" and grant you the full pardon you so desperately need. GOD, AM I ENJOYING THIS!!

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The problem with Comey was the way he handled the release of information. During the campaign, he revealed that Clinton was under investigation without mentioning that Trump or at least his associates were too. That damaged Clinton, and so Dems were upset. I think Clinton had a host of other problems that led to her loss, but the one-sided leaks definitely played a part.

I'm sure Hillary is not losing sleep over Comey's departure.

Like I said in a previous comment, context (and timing) matters. The Dems are no longer under serious investigation and don't really have to power to fire Comey anyway. 

Put the president does as he serves under the president, but ultimately and finally for the people and the confidence in the FBI has been eroding for a very long time. When you make enemies are both sides and you become the main issue for everyone and everything else, it's time to go.

Their opinions don't change the fact that Trump fired the head of the organization currently investigating him... So yes, irrelevant.

And that was a good thing, bottom line.

Mr Trump, you can start packing your things for the move back to Trump Tower.

That probably won't happen for another 4 to 8 years. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Not to worry, after you resign, Pence will do "a Gerald Ford" and grant you the full pardon you so desperately need. GOD, AM I ENJOYING THIS!!

The Unicornverse is a majestic realm.

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Like a despot, Trump fires the man investigating him: he pushes him out of the nearest window, which is what? The pretense that he mishandled the Clinton case, when just months before, he praised Comey for the way he handled the Clinton case. How ignorant can Trump supporters be. (Notice the absence of a question mark; the question was redundant.)

Now is the time to just let things fester. Next year in November, the democrats, thanks to the bundlings and the blatant corruption of the republicans, will take control of the congress. Then impeachment proceedings can begin against Trump for obstruction of justice and undermining democracy. Remember: Yates and Bharara were also fired for trying to uphold democracy. So let the three obese men, Trump and the two Russians, laugh it up. We'll all be laughing come next year.

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To do his job as President, Trump of course has to meet with Russia and its representatives.

As for the FBI Director, he serves at the pleasure of the President. As there has now been 11 months of investigation with no evidence whatsoever presented, he was given enough time to find whatever it was he thought he was going to find.

Most Dems wanted him fired because of how he screwed over Hillary (in their mind). So Trump fires him for that exact reason but people want to whine buttttt Russsssssia..... hypocrisy at its best. You wanted him gone for mishandling Hillary investigation, ok- he's gone.

So now was the time to let Comey go. Especially after his insubordinate speech the other day saying Trump was stuck with him for another 6.5 years no matter what he said or did. Guess you were wrong about that, huh?

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I'm not a republican or democrat, so I'm not concerned with schoolyard arguments that go: the dems wanted him gone because of the way he did Clinton moments before the election; at the same time, I'm not concerned with the fact that in on breath, Trump is praising, Comey, and in another he's saying he's doing a bad job. I'm concerned that the president has fired a man who is investigating him; a.k.a., obstructing justice. It's all just too suspicious, and comes out of the dictators textbook 101. Now he's meeting with the Russians on the heels of terminating the man who obviously got too close to home. This is not the way the United States is supposed to operate. So far Trump has fired people on the verge of exposing something about him; what that something is we don't know because Trump keeps firing them. Trump still keeps his taxes shrouded in mystery. Why? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see he's got something to hide. Trump's attorney general has recused himself from investigation. Trump spends more time on vacation, playing golf, than any other president ever has. Tax payers pay Trump to play golf at his own property. He brags about gaming the system. Good god! I'm gonna puke. This guy needs to be impeached yesterday.

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 How ignorant can Trump supporters be. (Notice the absence of a question mark; the question was redundant.) 

Probably as ignorant as Trump haters that hated Comey for his investigation of the Hillary emails and server debacle, but started to love him when he opened an investigation on Trump.

Now is the time to just let things fester. Next year in November, the democrats, thanks to the bundlings and the blatant corruption of the republicans, will take control of the congress. 

And if they don't, then what?

Then impeachment proceedings can begin against Trump for obstruction of justice and undermining democracy. Remember: Yates and Bharara were also fired for trying to uphold democracy. So let the three obese men, Trump, and the two Russians, laugh it up. We'll all be laughing come next year.

That won't happen, America still has nightmares about the last impeachment.

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Did he thank him for the hacking?

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That won't happen, America still has nightmares about the last impeachment.

Funny that you mention that. What Trump has done is very reminiscent of the Saturday night massacre. And when impeachment proceedings got underway against Nixon, the country was more united than ever. Currently, the country is asunder. You know what's going to bring us back together? Well, history has the habit of coming back and biting you in the ass.

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Funny that you mention that. What Trump has done is very reminiscent of the Saturday night massacre. And when impeachment proceedings got underway against Nixon, the country was more united than ever.

Different time, we also had the draft as well and ice cream was under a dollar

Currently, the country is asunder. You know what's going to bring us back together? Well, history has the habit of coming back and biting you in the ass

Well, the last president was supposed to and that never happened, so what or whom do you suggest? Hillary? LOL!

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There is no "fake news" like Fox News. I find it strange the people who are backing Trump's accusations of fake news, were the same ones who backed anything critically bad said about Obama from the news.

It is a shame a lot of these articles talk less of the actual content and dwindles down to bickering between two sides of the same coin.

As far as this article is concerned, there really is not much to comment on, it speaks volumes on it's own.

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That won't happen, America still has nightmares about the last impeachment.

Yes, all about two consenting adults, a dress, and pressing a man to admit something that happened in private. Nightmarish stuff, indeed. A laughable and complete waste of time.

Way worse than say Nixon or what Trump does on a daily basis.

Trump gives me nightmares. I wake up each morning to check news alerts to see what stupid thing he did overnight. I'm usually not disappointed, or more to the point, I wake up with my disappointment confirmed.

Trump is bouncing around impeachment, but he has always been a slimy and slippery guy. He is in a fish bowl now, so people see every move he makes.

All he needs to do is just anger the Republicans enough. They are so happy to have a Republican president, they will let him do nearly anything. Of course, Pence makes for an easy out, bad mistake there Trump. Or, wait until 2018 when the Republicans lose control of both houses of the legislature. I predict that swing will happen.

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In light of yesterday's firing of FBI head Comey, any Senator or Representative who does not support the appointment of an independent investigation into Russian influence in our election and the highest levels of our government is more interested in hiding the truth and actively endorsing a cover up.

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The Unicornverse is a majestic realm.

I imagine it's a lot classier than this trash-filled swamp.

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Putin!...Russia!...Putin!...Russia!...Putin!...Russia!...

SQUIRREL!!

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praised the U.S. administration as problem solvers

read "for being a good Putin's puppet"

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@FizzBit, the only public business conducted by Trump the day after firing America's top lawman was to pal aroumd with Russia's top two foreign reps. Squirrel on steroids?

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I just dont know what people want. Do they want the US President to never speak to Russia for the next 4-8 years of the Trump presidency? its month 11 of no evidence of collusion, do people just want this investigation to go on forever? month 22 of no collusion, month 34 of still no collusion (Dems-but still looking!!!!)

There is no evidence that even Flynn did anything wrong as related to Russia except not telling Trump/Pence everything he talked about while doing his job and maybe not reporting payments he got in previous years/jobs. But no collusion even from him, and none on Trump and his team despite having most of their phone calls monitored for almost a year and a half now. if there was going to be anything, it surely would have leaked by now?

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As there has now been 11 months of investigation with no evidence whatsoever presented

No evidence?

As a starter, how about everyone around Trump lying about their involvement with Russia?

Even the attorney general has been caught lying under oath. The DNI was fired for lying, and now will probably be charged with accepting money from foreign governments and possibly lying to the FBI.

It takes a lot of time for the investigators to get confidential information. 11 months is not that long. Plus, Trump is doing everything he can to stop the investigation.

How long did the Benghazi investigations/witch hunt go on for? It was important to know about failures there, but it wasn't a question of the very foundation of the democracy. How long did the Monica Lewinski investigation take? It wasn't an important question at all, just a lynch mob.

This investigation can take as long as it needs to find out the truth. The truth in this case is very important.

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Sure, but at what point does the truth be identified that nothing happened? There was evidence in the Benghazi case, there was evidence in the Monica Lewinsky case. How much longer can this Russia investigation go on with no evidence to even support its existence?

The liberal point keeps changing but I think is that Trump and his people colluded with Russia to influence the election and to support Trump winning. While there is evidence of generic lying by Flynn and out of context comments by the Attorney General, no evidence exists that any of that influenced the election or helped Trump win.

Sure they talked with Russians (so did Hillary and Dems), but where is the evidence that they specifically talked about influencing the election in favor of Trump? Isnt that what they are looking for or has it changed again? Also been no investigations whatsoever into the leakers of names and classified info, now that Comey is gone maybe that can start.

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Maybe firing Comey is Trump's party favor gift to Lavrov

Even Attorney General Sessions says Russia is responsible for the hacking, even when he believes it didn't change the result of the election

Cue the conspiracy nuts with their wacky theories.

That's what people say about CIA conspiracy theorists

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Putin!...Russia!...Putin!...Russia!...Putin!...Russia!...

SQUIRREL!!

Don't know how you're using that term, but typically it's used to indicate a ruse, a distraction, something done to draw attention away from, perhaps hide a problem.

What is the distraction in this case? The ineptitude Trump has shown to date? His multi-million dollar golf outings? His ongoing conflicts of interest? His nepotism? His son in law using his WH connection to pimp visas for profit? Trump and the Republicans gutting healthcare for the middle and working class? Trump and the Republicans gutting environmental programs? Trump and the Republicans gutting consumer protection and worker protection programs? Trump and the Republicans ramping up military actions around the world?

If so, Russia-Putin might be a squirrel, but he's going to need a dray of squirrels to distract from what all he's doing in other areas.

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That hosting of a foreign minister into the Oval office office was a victory lap for Putin. He personally insisted the meeting happens there and Trump said OK Sir. Poor Merkel.

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@FizzBit

Even, Glen Greenwald, who I think you and I both respect, thinks it's incredibly suspicious of Trump to fire Comey at this timing. He also thinks Trump's excuse that Comey was unfair to Clinton is preposterous and insulting to anyone with a brain.

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What is the distraction in this case? The ineptitude Trump has shown to date?

For example?

His multi-million dollar golf outings?

Ok, so once again, that's all the left has...golfing? Yikes!

His ongoing conflicts of interest? His nepotism? His son in law using his WH connection to pimp visas for profit?

So you must really hate the Clinton's then?

Trump and the Republicans gutting healthcare for the middle and working class? Trump and the Republicans gutting environmental programs? Trump and the Republicans gutting consumer protection and worker protection programs? Trump and the Republicans ramping up military actions around the world? 

The GOP wouldn't have th need to gut anything if the Dems, Gruber and Emanuel hadn't been so greedy and overhauled the entire healthcare system, just for the 20 million that needed it.

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Trump is really pushing the 'you can fool all the people some of the time' line, although he seems to have realized that he can fool most of the Republicans all of the time! He's clearly out of his depth and his demise is only a matter of time. Pence is probably involved with the Russians in a dodgy way too. Trump is going to spend all his time defending himself without getting anything productive done.

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For example?

Hiring Flynn after being warned he'd been compromised for starters. Suggesting Obama wiretapped Trump, suggesting Obama was not an American, slapping idiotic tariffs on Canadian products, appointing Betsy DeVos, discussing national security issues in public, signing two illegal travel bans, pulling his "great" healthcare plan after it became apparent it wouldn't pass. I could go on, and on, but you get the point.

Ok, so once again, that's all the left has...golfing? Yikes!

You rightwing shills started that. Including Trump. Don't like it? Well, maybe you should have said something about it when Trump was throwing a hissy fit about Obama hitting the links.

So you must really hate the Clinton's then?

Are you comparing Trump to the Clintons?

The GOP wouldn't have th need to gut anything if the Dems, Gruber and Emanuel hadn't been so greedy and overhauled the entire healthcare system, just for the 20 million that needed it.

Yeah man, just let them die. Those uninsured don't deserve healthcare.

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blacklabel: There is no evidence that even Flynn did anything wrong as related to Russia

Well of course there is. He talked about the sanctions before the elections, which is illegal, then he lied about it, which made him open for blackmail. That's "nothing wrong"? Trump found out about all of this and did precisely nothing until the Washington Post started to print stories about it. Then the day after Yates testifies, Trump fires Comey.

Add to that Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chairman, who took money from Russia and failed to disclose it while also failing to register as a foreign agent.

Add to that Jared Kushner, Trump's son in law and chief strategist, who also met with the Russian ambassador during the transition and, wait for it, failed to disclose it, saying he "must have forgotten" meeting the freaking ambassador.

Add to the Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, who, wait for it, met with the Russians and failed to disclose it, even when asked under oath from Congressional investigators.

Add to that the fact that Trump and his son, Eric, have said they have no business dealings in Russia but have gone on record saying that Russia supplies the bulk of the funding for their golf courses.

Add to that the fact that all of this could be cleared up if Trump would release his taxes, but he won't.

Add to that the fact that the FBI has laid out evidence showing how Russia used hacking to try to influence our elections and Trump's response has been....wait for it....nothing at all.

When Trump and the politicians say that there's no direct link between Putin and Russia so far, they are right. And then their base does exactly what the politicians want them to do: The make the entire issue about Trump and Putin, say there's nothing there, then expand the "nothing's there" narrative to include everything being investigated. That's why you have message board comments with people saying, "Flynn did nothing wrong at all" since the issue has been successfully conflated.

Without the media and the investigations, Flynn would be working for Trump right now. So would Manafort. So you're welcome for that. People want to see an investigation because they don't trust Trump's inner circle since so many of them have shown to be corrupt. Even if there is no link established between Putin and Trump, which I don't think there will be, we've done a good job in getting Trump's garbage off of the taxpayer's payroll, and I expect more will be gone before the end.

And Remember the GOP philosophy to investigations: Make an accusation, spin up an investigation, then request millions of documents and emails and gee, whuddayaknow, we found something else to investigate. Keep repeating over and over again until something sticks. The Monica Lewinsky situation came to light while the GOP was investigating a real estate deal. Clinton's server came up while investigating Benghazi.

Who knows what can be found on Trump and his associates with the same level of energy. Maybe even spin it into something where he has to release his taxes? Sounds good to me. And turnabout is fair play.

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Trump, out like Nixon or in like Putin? All depends on how the GOP majority does its "job".   Will they work for the good of the people in the US, or work for their own elitist greed and political self interests?

It's all about timing.  And the timing is very poor on Trumps part.

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As long as Trump's base accepts and repeats nonsensical explanations for his actions, Trump has no reason to change. Check out the Spicer's and Conway's comments on the issue. Pure and utter illogical nonsense.

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Will they work for the good of the people in the US, or work for their own elitist greed and political self interests?

With all due respect Honest, you'd have to believe in unicorns to even ask the question. Party before country, greed before everyone. The Republican party knows no shame. Hopefully, Trump will be their ending....

Good to see all the Russian paid contributors present. They're firing off posts quicker than an AK in kill everyone mode. They're desperate and the truth must surely come out....

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I'm suspicious of Trump!

He could be a Russian spy!

With family named 'Ivanka'

and marriage to an Eastern European!

Comey had him fingered and had found the Don's vodka stash!

And the birthday card from Putin!

The pieces are falling into place........

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So in other words, if one person displays bad behavior, you respond by doing bad behavior, so then as a justification if the parties switch again one day, it will be ok for the other side to engage in more gutter politics?

Are you comparing Trump to the Clintons? 

I'm comparing the left's outrage and pointing out their infamous hypocrisy.

Yeah man, just let them die. Those uninsured don't deserve healthcare.

Here we go again. Why is it the left doesn't try and listen to opposing views? I NEVER said, "let them die" No one thinks that, all the Dems had to do was fix the system to help and accommodate the 20 million that didn't have coverage, that would have been fine, justified and noble, respectable, but what they have done and subsequently what the GOP has added to all of this is a complete nightmare of a broken system that doesn't seem that it will be rectified anytime soon.

As long as Trump's base accepts and repeats nonsensical explanations for his actions, Trump has no reason to change. Check out the Spicer's and Conway's comments on the issue. Pure and utter illogical nonsense.

I think they need to change anything, the president was right to do what he did, may not have been the most elegant and PC way to give someone their walking papers, but then again, there is no proper way of firing a person. That's what a strong and decisive leader does and if people don't like it....oh, well....

I think the left just want to see what they want to see and it wouldn't matter what this president would do, the left would never be satisfied, so Trump just needs to push forward and not worry about what other people think.

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@Mr Bum

I don't know who Glen Greenwald is, only the name, and mostly from some mentioning him on here.

@PTownsend

The SQUIRREL....are all you "Putin!-Russia!" trolls. You all have had NO problems with the largest lobbying organization, directed at US elections, subverting our Republic..Israel and AIPAC. If you were consistent you might have credibility. Since you're not consistent, you all come off as MSM/globalist tools. Obama cozied up to Saudi Arabia very much. I'm sure you disagreed wth it, but I don't recall any "fire-in-your-belly" about that relationship. Why? Because the MSM didn't lead you. I'll take thug Putin any day over those Saudi thugs.

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Obama cozied up to Saudi Arabia very much.

For the life of me, I never could understand why this NEVER got the attention it so rightly deserved and now it seems that everyone wants to pretend it either never happened or not at all relevant or it was a different scenario, therefore, it gets a pass.

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For the life of me, I never could understand why this NEVER got the attention it so rightly deserved

It rightly got criticism from both parties, and conversely was also defended by people from both parties, who saw the vested interests in Saudi Arabia. It wasn't a partisan issue for nor against.

Unlike Trump talking to these foreign leaders, which is entirely partisan.

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The Dems wanted him fired until....Trump did it

Outlining the difference between a democracy and an autocracy.

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There is no doubt some on the left wanted him fired, but it was hardly a party wide thing, nor were they chanting for it (Fire him up! Fire him up!).

Trumpets want to try to pretend this is a partisan issue, when any true American should be concerned about Trump placing self over country. Anyone defending Trump's actions on this matter is supporting treasonous actions, whether the left wanted him fired or not.

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There is no doubt some on the left wanted him fired, but it was hardly a party wide thing, nor were they chanting for it (Fire him up! Fire him up!).

Doesn't matter, Comey was poison to both sides. The GOP loved him during the Clinton mail scandal when they were dumping files left and right. Dems and Schumer were beside themselves, but were happy when charges were NOT brought up on her and then the Dems were happy when they opened the investigation about the Russian/election debacle on Trump. but then at a dinner when Trump asked Comey is he under investigation, Comey said, no. So this back and forth between Comey was a huge distraction and made the guy a full liability problem. Trump had every legal right to get rid of this guy and Trump should have done it a long time ago.

Trumpets want to try to pretend this is a partisan issue,

Without a doubt it absolutely is.

when any true American should be concerned about Trump placing self over country. Anyone defending Trump's actions on this matter is supporting treasonous actions, whether the left wanted him fired or not.

Oh, please! And once again, the Alt-left are living on (besides a thread and a needle of hope) is to desperately find a nugget somewhere that they can get this man in the act of doing something and so far (as expected) nothing. When you have people like Brennan, Yates, Clapper who are No friends of Trump, even Feinstein, all of these people have admitted, there is nothing on this guy and as the FBI investigations continue, the left will still be going on a nugget hunt. 

Good luck with that.

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"I fired him for you , sir".

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Doesn't matter, Comey was poison to both sides.

Which shows he wasn't partisan in his actions. Making him a valuable member of society.

Trump had every legal right to get rid of this guy and Trump should have done it a long time ago.

If he was firing him for the good of the country, he had a legal right. He doesn't have the legal right to fire him for personal reasons. There are already talks of impeaching Trump for this.

It's very disturbing that you think Trump acting in his own interests above those of the country is justifiable. The only way dictators can succeed is through support of some of the populace.

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@FizzBit

I don't know who Glen Greenwald is, only the name, and mostly from some mentioning him on here.

Sorry, I must've been thinking of someone else. He's a true non-MSM journalist though.

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Which shows he wasn't partisan in his actions. Making him a valuable member of society.

To society, but not to the agency or to Washington and in particular the DOJ

If he was firing him for the good of the country, he had a legal right. He doesn't have the legal right to fire him for personal reasons. There are already talks of impeaching Trump for this.

The FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president and therefore, the president has the absolute right to fire him, even "if" he didn't personally feel that he was up to the job. Also, the investigation continues, so as far as that is concerned, nothing has changed. When you have the FBI director usurping his powers overstepping the DOJ, taking it upon himself to not prosecute a person, actively telling a sitting president who's under investigation that he is NOT under personal investigation is just completely out of bounds and Trump did the right thing and in my opinion, he should have done it sooner.

It's very disturbing that you think Trump acting in his own interests above those of the country is justifiable. The only way dictators can succeed is through support of some of the populace.

I don't think it's disturbing at all. I was more concerned with the rogue actions of a narcissistic lawyer that played both sides and was all about himself, not wanting to offend either side, but wanted himself to look good, totally unacceptable. Now that this is behind us, Trump can look and appoint a new director that won't play either side, one that puts the country first and not himself and one that will do his job and that's working for the people.

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Trump can look and appoint a new director that won't play either side, one that puts the country first and not himself and one that will do his job and that's working for the people.

Hello in there, Cliff. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?

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Hello in there, Cliff. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?

I don't live in California, so it should be blue.

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@Superlib Once again the topic is the Trump administration colluding with the Russian government to influence the election to ensure that Trump would win. How does any of that you mentioned relate? Some people took money they didnt report or didnt tell the truth about meeting someone or talked about something before they were supposed to it seems, as I have heard all of those same allegations.

Most of the things you mentioned happened post election or were not related to the actual elections at all. So how did what Mike Flynn or anyone else you mention collude with the Russians to deny Hillary the presidency?

Whatever they did sure didnt work in California or New York by the way and as you guys like to say, she won the popular vote. So where is the proof of this collusion, and how did it actually help Trump, as he lost the popular vote anyway.

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This Oval Office hosting is a security risk. Even Obama and Bush security men weren't allowed to carry phones inside. Russians carry all their 'equipment' inside.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/opinion/trump-russia-fbi-investigation.html?_r=0

No, of course there wasn't anything dodgy going on. Purely co-incidence upon co-incidence.

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"Russia, if you're listening..." How quickly some folk forget.

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the dems look like a bunch of cry babies calling for Comeys firing and then complaining about his firing. Do they realise how stupid they look?

This takes the cake for me. I think its best to ignore the wimpering and Continue MAGA!

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Russia Today (RT) - America's number one news source in the very near future! Probably the only news media whose journalists will be allowed at future press conferences held by the Trump administration. Former US presidents must be rolling in their graves!!!! You get what you deserve - bwah ha ha!!!!

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the dems look like a bunch of cry babies calling for Comeys firing and then complaining about his firing. Do they realise how stupid they look?

This takes the cake for me. I think its best to ignore the wimpering and Continue MAGA!

What does "Make America Great Again" actually mean, though? Is it anything to do with threatening staff and political opponents with jail? Surely that's more Putin's style?

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Let's just acknowledge that the USA wasn't particularly spoilt (or spoiled, if you prefer) for choice with either Clinton or Trump... Then again, the US has been in decline for rather a long time now - unfortunate but true.

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