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Trump on Putin meeting: It wasn't all rosy

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U.S. President Donald Trump defended his efforts to build a relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview broadcast on Friday, having invited the Russian leader for a second meeting despite an uproar over their first.

Trump's administration has sought to control the damage from their private meeting and news conference Monday in Helsinki, where Trump astonished the world and drew sharp criticism at home by siding with Putin over U.S. intelligence agencies on Moscow's meddling in the 2016 election.

As the White House tried to put some distance between the two leaders, Trump made a jarring move in the opposite direction on Thursday, offering to host Putin in the autumn.

In a CNBC interview, Trump said that he and Putin had a rapport in Helsinki. U.S. intelligence agencies accuse Putin of directing interference to sway the election against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton toward Republican Trump.

"Look, the fact is we got along well," Trump said in the interview, which was taped on Thursday. He added that the two did not agree on everything.

"So I had a meeting that lasted for more than two hours. It wasn't always conciliatory in that meeting," Trump said, without elaborating.

Five days after the Helsinki meeting, some U.S. officials remained in the dark about what the leaders discussed in their two-hour, one-on-one session with only interpreters present.

Trump listed on Twitter the topics he and Putin talked about, but has not given details. He said they discussed counterterrorism, Israel's security, nuclear proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace and North Korea.

Conflicting messages from the White House this week added to the confusion after Trump's overseas trip, during which he appeared to draw closer to Russia after alienating NATO allies.

As Americans groped for information about the meeting, Moscow offered snippets of its version on Friday.

Russia's Defense Ministry said it sent detailed proposals to Washington on organizing the return of more than 1.7 million refugees to Syria after agreements reached by Putin and Trump, RIA news agency said.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told reporters at the United Nations later that Trump and Putin discussed how to return refugees who fled the civil war in Syria, but offered no details and did not mention any Russian proposals.

Russia's Interfax news agency reported that Putin also made proposals to Trump involving eastern Ukraine, citing Russia's ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov. He did not spell out what they were.

A spokesman for the White House National Security Council said later the United States on Friday rejected a proposal from Russia for a referendum to decide the fate of eastern Ukraine.

The Russian ambassador said Moscow is ready to discuss a proposed new meeting between Putin and Trump, Interfax said.

Putin has rejected accusations his government meddled in the election won by Trump. A week ago, a federal grand jury indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for carrying out cyber attacks to undermine Democratic Party networks. A special counsel is also investigating whether Trump campaign aides coordinated with Russian officials, which Trump denies.

U.S. intelligence officials have said Moscow is targeting congressional elections in November as well.

Illustrating the gulf between Trump and some of his own advisers, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said on Thursday that he did not know what Trump and Putin discussed in their private meeting.

Coats learned of the proposed second meeting with Putin when the White House announced it on Twitter, while he was being interviewed at the Aspen conference.

With the fallout from the Putin meeting matching or eclipsing previous controversies in Trump's turbulent 18-month presidency, critics of his performance in Helsinki included many fellow Republicans.

A Republican congressman and former CIA officer, William Hurd, wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times late on Thursday entitled, "Trump is Being Manipulated by Putin. What should we do?"

"There are a number of us who warned about this," Mark Warner, the Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat, said Friday on MSNBC. "Trump got played, he got played for a fool and he embarrassed our country and frankly embarrassed lots of my colleagues across the board – Democrats, Republicans alike."

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Basically, Putin sat in his chair and stroked his cat while Trump apologized and asked for further orders.

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The media is continuing its campaign to try to prevent detent between the USA and Russia. Fortunately, President Trump has rock solid confidence in his game.

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"an opinion piece in the New York Times late on Thursday entitled, "Trump is Being Manipulated by Putin. What should we do?"

How about "Trump Refuses to Be Manipulated by U.S. Gov't Intelligence Agencies. Isn't that Ballsy?"

Burning Bush - You been watching too many Sean Connery 007 movies.

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We still have Congress, the intelligence agencies, and Americans to go up against Trump, Putin, and Trump fans.

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Brits and Scots turned out en masse to protest Trump's visits to England and Scotland.

Patriotic Americans should turn out en masse to protest Putin if/when he visits the U.S.A.

Putin attacked fair and free elections in the U.S.A., a cornerstone of American democracy. Putin should NOT be permitted, let alone welcomed, to step on U.S. soil.

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Trump the habitual liar you really cant believe a word he says...

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Trump deniers will deny the truth even when provided with facts.

Yet Trump tries to pretend he was tough with Putin, something that is born by no facts whatsoever, and they accept it as being the truth. All while screaming 'Fake news' 'Climate change is fake' 'You can't trust our intelligence agencies'.

If I was a Trump Zealot, I'd be embarrassed as hell having to support the lunacies pepetrated by the supreme overlord.

But they obviously have no shame.

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SerranoToday 06:54 am JST

"an opinion piece in the New York Times late on Thursday entitled, "Trump is Being Manipulated by Putin. What should we do?"

How about "Trump Refuses to Be Manipulated by U.S. Gov't Intelligence Agencies. Isn't that Ballsy?"

No, that's not really an answer to the question. Maybe you should just stick to pasting links to YouTube clips. Never mind that no one can be bothered to click on them or wants to add to their views count.

Burning Bush - You been watching too many Sean Connery 007 movies.

Apart from the cat it sounds pretty spot on to me.

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They talked privately about golf and grandchildren.

Moving on.

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Basically, Trump is scared sh*t when standing next to Putin or alone with him. Back home, he changes his tune when confronted by his own people. Can't wait to see what happens when Trump's master comes for a visit to the US, his new vassal state.

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They talked privately about golf and grandchildren.

No one knows what they talked about, and that's how it's likely to stay, but they did see Trump's very public betrayal of the United States when he came out of the meeting.

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@wipeout, I agree with you; 'nuff said.

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Trump has stated, "I talked tough with Putin in our one on one meeting", or words to that effect. However, we now know that during the Helsinki press conference that Trump made no mention whatsoever of turning over the former U.S. Ambassador to Russia for the Russians to interrogate. We only found out about this from the Russian media, and now Trump is doing the Texas 2-step.

Trump was more than likely a great big wuss when he dealt secretly with Putin in their one on one meeting. Meanwhile, we learn more about the secret Helsinki meeting from the Kremlin than we do from the U.S. president, and it looks like Trump probably gave away the store in the process just to get closer to Putin.

To be continued this fall and expect more of the same, one on one secret meetings between the cagey former KGB agent and the lying snake oil salesman with a full blown man-crush. Sad.

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Putin is repugnant. You don't have need intelligence agencies to see what Putin is doing in Ukraine. The new nukes that Putin likes to boast about. The USA doesn't need detente with Russia, they need somebody who can tell Putin where to get off.

Oh, if Trump thinks it wasn't all rosy it's probably because FSB agents held him down for a spanking for not being better at sucking......up.

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BlacklabelToday 10:03 am JST

They talked privately about golf and grandchildren.

Moving on.

You consider that to be a productive use of two and a half hours and whatever it cost to set the whole thing up?

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Putin is repugnant. You don't have need intelligence agencies to see what Putin is doing in Ukraine.

“Doing”?

My understanding is that he ostensibly wishes to protect ethnic Russians in the eastern Ukraine. I’m sure he would be happy to annex the Donbas if possible. Ukraine is not a member of NATO so there are no treaty obligations to defend it against Russia. Save those efforts for Estonia and Latvia which countries are in NATO - they also have sizable Russian minorities.

”Repugnant”? That’s beside the point. Sadam Hussein was repugnant, but he was useful while he was battling revolutionary Iran.

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Tough-talking Trump's "I'm tough on Russia" shtick is laughably lame and his blow-hard "best words" can't cover up his naked incompetency. When the two men emerged from their meeting, their faces told us what the fly on the wall had seen: smirking Putin came out like Sylvester the cat with Tweetie Bird's feathers still visibly protruding from his mouth while Trump's flustered orange face as he shambled out showed us a modern version of the Emperor's New Clothes. Putin did to Trump what Trump boasted on the bus tape: "If you're famous, you can even grab them by...".

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It was a joke. Bill Clinton talked privately to the government official directly in charge of his wife’s criminal case for 45 mins to 1 hour. Just a few days before she was found innocent.

they both claimed they only talked about golf and grandkids and there was no liberal outcry for a transcript to be provided or any effort to subpoena others who would know what they really talked about.

liberaks still want privacy for their own communications but demand to see transcripts or get audio of everyone else’s.

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Blacklabel: "It was a joke."

A Freudian slip, more like. Face it, you guys have backed a traitor and you know it; the subconscious is slipping through the cracks, boys.

And I've no doubt it wasn't all rosy -- when Putin threatened Trump with whatever he's got on him, Trump probably whimpered like a whipped pup and groveled on his knees.

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It was MY joke. I was being sarcastic to show no one wants a transcript when liberals talk. They get privacy, immunity and attorney/client. Republicans get private conversations leaked, get indicted and get raided

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Republicans also get indictments. Let’s not forget about that.

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@Super I clicked on your link. The Huffington Post cartoons bite the big one. Now click on this video and learn something.

Rand Paul is the Only Sane Senator, Blocks Bernie Sanders Bill Condemning Russia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUgsgozxDe8

-5 ( +0 / -5 )

Why does everything have to take place in secret? What have you got to hide? The entire world is suspicious.

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Now click on this video and learn something.

You post over an hour of video daily. It's unrealistic to think people are going to watch them.

Just give me a summary of the video and I'll give you my comments. That's really the best I'm ever going to offer you. No need to constantly try to get my attention to click on links that I'm just not going to click on.

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The Russian attempt to meddle in our election was comically amateurish, with badly targeted Facebook ads almost nobody saw. Whaddya think, Super?

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