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"If they have to go higher, they'll go higher, frankly."

Obama was regularly blasted by some posters here as being a 'socialist' for 'punishing' the wealthy. If Trump proposes raising taxes on these people, will that make the Donald a radical Maoist?

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The problem here is we don't have a clue what's in the tax plan...

No; the problem is that the GOP HAS no tax plan. All it has is a basketful of platitudes, many contradictory. This means that some cherished idols or others will have to be tossed -but which? And that's where the infighting starts. Happened with those pathetic attempts to repeal and replace Obamacare; will likely happen again with tax reform.

Trump HATES this because he loves signing bills with that oversized Gothic signature of his. He cares not a wit what's in the bill; he just wants to sign it (just like my dog doesn't care where we go; he just wants to go out). If the GOP were somehow able to pass a bill eliminating all taxes on the top 1%, paid for by double taxes on the lower 50%, he'd sign it. That is, he's no more a Dem than he is a Repub - he's simply an opportunist.

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Dear god the GOP is incompetent, not even their President and leader supports them. Such incompetence should be considered criminal in a supposedly civilized nation and direct action should be taken against this ilk

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Remember when Trump told DREAMers they'd be safe, then he cancelled their program?

Remember when Trump told LGBT people he'd have their backs, then he ordered all transgender people out of the military for literally no good reason?

Remember when Trump promised a healthcare plan that covered everyone for cheaper than Obamacare, then got behind a Paul Ryan plan that stripped healthcare for millions and raised rates for everyone who wasn't already rich?

This is how he operates. The man doesn't have the intelligence to think through serious policy, and he doesn't have the integrity to stick with promises he makes. He just figures out what everyone wants to hear, repeats "It'll be great," to cover for his complete lack of information on the subject, and then chucks everyone who isn't useful to him in that exact moment under a bus to get attention for closing a deal, even if the deal is garbage. For Trump, no one deserves loyalty or integrity but himself.

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I'll believe it when I see it.

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Regardless of what he says today, Mr. Trump may say and do the opposite tomorrow. Why spend time analyzing him in depth today when tomorrow (or even later today) he may be off on some other tangent?

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Rich, old white guys are going to implode -- they won't know whether to support him or stand against him on this one and their circuits will fry.

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I've always believed that the current tax rates for people who make over 400k a year is enough at 39.6% (excluding state taxes which can add an extra 2%-7% on that). I don't think it should be lowered, but I also don't think it should be raised. Just make sure that tax loopholes that are being abused by those who have that income level, are closed and the income the government needs to get will be balanced.

I'm not shocked that Trump is claiming this and working with the democrats, and I'm sad that the GOP even thought that running on their continual "party before country" shtick would somehow keep things going their way.

The dems are going about this the wrong way (by trying to increases taxes on the wealthy) just as the GOP was going about it the wrong way (by trying to cut taxes for the wealthy). Just make sure the taxes are being paid properly in the first place, and once they all determine how much they actually should be getting, then they can raise/cut taxes as needed.

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Trump just tweeted

With Irma and Harvey devastation, Tax Cuts and Tax Reform is needed more than ever before. Go Congress, go!

Riiight. Just when two historically large typhoons have left cumulative damage far exceeding $400 billion, what America needs is a tax cut - particularly on corporations and the wealthy. Oh, and an end to the inheritance tax, which Trump called for last week twixt hurricanes.

If Trump weren't so stupid as to be ineffective, he'd be dangerous.

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Obama was regularly blasted by some posters here as being a 'socialist' for 'punishing' the wealthy. If Trump proposes raising taxes on these people, will that make the Donald a radical Maoist?

Very true, but the difference is, Obama never put any effort in lowering tax rates on the job creators and never paid much attention to the private sector or sustainable growth for the middle class. But we shall see how the Democrats take to this new found friendship.

Rich, old white guys are going to implode -- they won't know whether to support him or stand against him on this one and their circuits will fry.

What about the more richer liberals that are mostly White up in Northern California and practically own it?

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Very true, but the difference is, Obama never put any effort in lowering tax rates on the job creators and never paid much attention to the private sector or sustainable growth for the middle class.

Dodging it. You hammered Obama for robbing Paul to pay Peter ( you often used that phrase ).

Are you now saying it's acceptable to tax the income of the rich, many of whom are not job creators, at a higher rate?

Sounds like a clear case of wealth redistribution.

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Another (slight but plausible) reason Trump may be attempting to play friendly with the Dems: He need not fear impeachment from the GOP Congress, but the chances of control flipping in 2018 are looking increasingly possible. Mueller is looking into circumstances around the drafting by Trump on Air Force One of a statement to spokesperson Hope Hicks saying that the now-infamous meeting between his son, Donald Trump Jr, along with several members of Trumps inner circle, at Trump Tower in June 2016 with a Russian lawyer closely tied to Putin “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children.” This is because that lie may be a uniquely good source of evidence of obstruction of justice, which is normally very difficult to prove. It may be a "smoking gun," as they say. Of course, the lie was so transparent that Jr. quickly came clean with a more plausible excuse which may or may not be true.

Either way, Mueller seems intent on accumulating evidence that Trump knowingly lied so as to impede an active investigation - the very definition of obstruction of justice. He's gonna need all the Democratic friends he can get.

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Obama never put any effort in lowering tax rates on the job creators

Beyond the silliness of this 'job creators' myth (the ones who didn't produce jobs when GW massively lowered their taxes), you are, as Jimizo pointed out, dodging. Trump is considering raising taxes on these so-called 'job creators'. Inquiring minds would like to know whether you think Trump's proposal is socialist, wealth distribution-ist, or just another case of the Washington liberal establishment punishing the hard-working successful Peter to pay the lazy minimum-wage-earning Paul. What do you think of Trump's idea?

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Dodging it. You hammered Obama for robbing Paul to pay Peter ( you often used that phrase ). 

Yes, that's correct.

Are you now saying it's acceptable to tax the income of the rich, many of whom are not job creators, at a higher rate? 

I'm not saying that at all, but the rich already pay more than their fair share (trust me, I know) but people like the liberal goons that have accumulated most of the nations wealth can afford to pay more simply because they make more.

Sounds like a clear case of wealth redistribution.

Not really. If you don't have an economic vision and have a GDP growth under 3% and to make up for it you have to rob Paul to give to Peter to cover up your failed economical policy borrowing more money and trying to sell it as economic growth.

Beyond the silliness of this 'job creators' myth (the ones who didn't produce jobs when GW massively lowered their taxes), you are, as Jimizo pointed out, dodging.

We are not talking about GW. We are talking about the LAST president and his failed economic policies that pretty much decimated the middle class.

Trump is considering raising taxes on these so-called 'job creators'. Inquiring minds would like to know whether you think Trump's proposal is socialist, wealth distribution-ist,

I already commented on that.

What do you think of Trump's idea?

If Trump were doing the same thing as Barack did and focused more on government jobs, expanding the government and putting less time and effort to rebuilding the private sector, I would have a very big problem wth that. But seeing the growth of the economy rapidly improving (we still have a way to go) I don't mind it taxing the people that can REALLY afford it. Bezos, Zuckenburg, Gates and Cook will be fine.

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the rich already pay more than their fair share (trust me, I know)

Let's cut through the bull, then. You dislike Trump's idea to increase taxes on the wealthy. And since these taxes will be higher than they were under Obama, Trump must be even more of a socialist than your multiculti Hawaiian bogeyman. No? Did you vote for the wrong man? Getting the cognitive dissonance fantods yet?

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Let's cut through the bull, then. You dislike Trump's idea to increase taxes on the wealthy.

Naw, I'm good with it, they're most progressive liberals, so I'm good. LOL

And since these taxes will be higher than they were under Obama, Trump must be even more of a socialist than your multiculti Hawaiian bogeyman. No?

I never liked Silicon Valley or Hollywood anyway.

Did you vote for the wrong man? Getting the cognitive dissonance fantods yet?

Now more than ever I definitely know I voted for the right guy. Kudos!

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Are you now saying it's acceptable to tax the income of the rich, many of whom are not job creators, at a higher rate? 

I'm not saying that at all, but the rich already pay more than their fair share (trust me, I know) but people like the liberal goons that have accumulated most of the nations wealth can afford to pay more simply because they make more.

You are against taxing the rich further on principle ( you dropped so many of your principles after joining the lunatic fringe, so correct me if I'm wrong here ), but you're happy if the rich liberals get hit.

Ridiculous, LMOAing, ROFLing, illogical, partisan garbage.

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Now more than ever I definitely know I voted for the right guy. Kudos!

Glad we can both agree the rich should pay more in taxes, love ;)

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lunatic fringe?

If you need an example, what happened to the 50% 1 star rating of Hillary's new book on Amazon? Wow! They miraculously disappeared. Which now stands at 95% 5 star rating. And I bet you'll chalk this up as a Top Double Secret Russian hack.

Can't see the forest for the trees.

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You are against taxing the rich further on principle ( you dropped so many of your principles after joining the lunatic fringe,

Not really, you"re adding in extras like a salesman that wants to sell an extended warranty.

so correct me if I'm wrong here ), but you're happy if the rich liberals get hit. 

Yes, I said it.

So yes, tax the rich liberals, they all live in California and New York as well.

Glad we can both agree the rich should pay more in taxes, love ;)

Bezos has more than enough money, get some of that, lower the tax rates, allow the private sector to go and all those middle class Americans that voted for Trump might be able to once agan, give these people hope, safety and jobs.

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While I think it's great you've hopped over to our side because of Trump, he could just as easily change his mind and you'd have to jump back over to the other side again. It's hard to sell when you aren't speaking directly to the decision-maker.

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While I think it's great you've hopped over to our side because of Trump,

No, I dint hope over to your side. I wanted a president that was beholden to ONLY HIS PARTY. I wanted a president that would be able to reach across the aisle and if that means working with the Democrst loins over the incompetent dolt Republicans, then so be it.

he could just as easily change his mind and you'd have to jump back over to the other side again. It's hard to sell when you aren't speaking directly to the decision-maker.

Not really. I'm a conservative, but in order to get things done, you might have to kiss a donkey sometimes, gross as it may be.

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Great. And if Trump changes his mind tomorrow, you will do as you will told and will like it. You aren't the decision-maker about where you stand. So welcome aboard while it lasts, but I doubt even you know what you'll be "standing for" tomorrow or next week.

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Great. And if Trump changes his mind tomorrow, you will do as you will told and will like it.

"Do as I'm told?" I'm not a liberal, let's get that out of the way, ok?

You aren't the decision-maker about where you stand.

I'm think I'm standing preeeeety good so far.

So welcome aboard while it lasts, but I doubt even you know what you'll be "standing for" tomorrow or next week.

You and most of the far left are so confused. LOL

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How the mighty have fallen.

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Naw, I'm good with it, they're most progressive liberals, so I'm good. LOL

I understand now. You used to be against taxing the rich, but now you're for it because Trump proposed it. And besides, you just came to the realization that rich people are mostly progressive liberals.

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Being a trump supporter is like being a knitted toy dropped into the washing machine on an active cycle. Never know which way up or which way round you are supposed to be facing!

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bass4funk: "You and most of the far left are so confused. LOL"

There's the "LOL", which means you're nervous and can't defend yourself. It's almost as bad as Trumps, "It's going to be wonderful" when he has no idea what he's talking about, nor what he should do or say. The attempts ate deflection are sadder than normal. You've clearly contradicted yourself, even on this thread at least twice, and all you can reply is, "I'm not liberal... I'm not liberal... I'm not liberal..." If you agree with Trump on this, then you ARE liberal, on this at least.

Like I said... circuits frying and implosion.

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but people like the liberal goons that have accumulated most of the nations wealth can afford to pay more simply because they make more.

You've added 'like the liberal goons' to camouflage your newfound love for wealth redistribution. It's hard to keep up with your evolution as a thinker. But let's try . . .

This was your position on Trump as articulated two years ago:

Trump is just the GOP version of Obama, pure and simple. Hard on the BS, without any substance to back anything up, both love their inflated egos as well. With Obama we have socialism, with Trump it would be socialism-lite.

So first you hated Trump for being a socialist. Then you realized he wasn't a socialist and decided to vote for him, believing he was going to lower taxes on rich people because they are job creators. And now you like him being a socialist because he's going to raise taxes on rich people because they are liberal goons.

Fantastic.

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I am negotiating with some local Trumpers.

Here is a video of that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnmIoF_2Q4Y

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