world

Justice Department pursuing seditious conspiracy cases in probe of Capitol riot

23 Comments
By Sarah N Lynch, Mark Hosenball and Eric Beech

The requested article has expired, and is no longer available. Any related articles, and user comments are shown below.

© Thomson Reuters 2021.

©2021 GPlusMedia Inc.

23 Comments

Comments have been disabled You can no longer respond to this thread.

Trump is the major conspiracy player. Still at it yesterday.

Trump has committed a felony.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Mitch McConnell supports impeaching Trump believes it will be easier to purge Trump from GOP. McConnell talking with Biden.

Yesterday, Trump dismissed the idea of impeachment calling it part of the greatest witch hunt ever. Could enrage "my followers, careful what you wish for." Refuses to take any responsibility. Says the 25th means nothing to him.

Trump advisers warn of legal jeopardy unless he tones down his rhetoric.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Rudy Giuliani "trial by combat!" haul him across the coals.

facing possible expulsion from the New York State Bar Association over incendiary remarks

9 ( +9 / -0 )

I can’t understand why some do not see that this is unprecedented. A president who legitimately lost re-election, incited a crowd of his supporters to, at a minimum, attempt to intimidate Congress and his Vice-President in order to unlawfully stay in office. People died. The Capitol was desecrated. The U.S. looked like a banana republic. And all of that is lost on not an insignificant number of Republicans.

Let’s be grown-ups. This isn’t like anything we’ve seen before. A coup attempt in America. A violent coup attempt, bent on intimidation. To not speak out against it is dishonorable. To justify, deflect, or otherwise excuse it is treason and should disqualify anyone who takes that position from public office.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Apparently the military and law enforcement are riddled with members with far right militia ties, and they will have a very hard time weeding that out. You can kind of see the US Army maybe has problems with the likes of Michael Flynn and Anthony Tata populating their senior officer ranks.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

Lock up the losers.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

"We're looking at significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy,"

Don't wrist slap them if found guilty. Next the feds have to see who's bankrolling the Trump's thugs.

What all is Trump doing with the millions of dollars his supporters have been sending him?

How much money is coming from 'foreign' sources? No question the globe's far right authoritarians are loving the damage Trump and his followers are doing to the country.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Washington police have closed all the roads around the congress.

GOP Rep Liz Cheney will vote to impeach the president.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Let’s be grown-ups. This isn’t like anything we’ve seen before. A coup attempt in America. A violent coup attempt, bent on intimidation. To not speak out against it is dishonorable. To justify, deflect, or otherwise excuse it is treason and should disqualify anyone who takes that position from public office.

Worse yet is that the right keeps warning that calling them on their misdeeds will make it worse. Talk about threats! So we turn a blind eye to an attempted coup fearing the coup plotters may attempt worse if we try to bring them to justice? IS that how it goes now? BS!

8 ( +8 / -0 )

And Congress member Jim Jordan still won't acknowledge Mr. Biden as President Elect.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Chuck Norris is trying, through his agent, to deny he was there but if he wasn't his twin brother was.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Good news: The zip tie guy has been identified and arrested.

Sad sack took his mom to the siege. That’s even sadder than when he took her to the prom.....

8 ( +8 / -0 )

Conspiracy ...

A word with multiple meanings depending on context. Don't worry - it's even challenging for many native speakers to understand the complexity of English vocabulary.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

I'm sure they are also investigating whether or not it was an inside job. It sure looks that way. The Washington D.C. police department even requested that the Department of Defense send in the National Guard, but was totally ignored. It wasn't until Pence called in way later, that the guard and backup was sent. It was a stark contrast to the preparation for the BLM protests. The insurrectionists seemingly had the doors open for them and they knew the layout of the building.

On any normal day, if anyone wants to visit the Capitol, they have to go to strict clearance and checks. Even handicapped people in wheelchairs have to have their wheelchairs thoroughly inspected. Mothers with babies have to have their bags of baby necessities X-rayed and hand-checked. Yet, these armed protesters were allowed to go through the doors unimpeded. Why?

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Anybody who knows history or political science is very aware that this is a problem endemic to ALL military, police and state security organizations in EVERY county since the establishment of centralized state power over the last couple of centuries.

It wasn't a problem when I served, at least not in the Navy. I vividly remember a student in flight school stuck a confederate flag on his flight suit. I don't think the idiot really understood everything that flag stands for. Just a southern kid who didn't know better. Wanted to stand out and boy did he! The squadron CO ripped him a new one and made it clear to everyone at quarters he wanted none of that in his squadron. Nobody ever discussed politics or religion in the ranks. It was made crystal clear to everyone very early in our training that both subjects were off limits. We had no idea of our shipmate's or squadron mate's political affiliations if any. Same in my father's time during WWII. I guess that has changed but it was not forever true in the US military but more recently I can remember a base CO cracking down on motorcycle club affiliations in the ranks. NCIS and JAG watch this sort of thing pretty carefully. The Army apparently not so much. I have no idea how Mrsrs. Tata and Flynn advanced as far as they did with the bigotries they hold. The Navy was always big on equal opportunity, still is today from what I can see, and was always a place where a disadvantaged kid could do well if they were honest and willing to work hard.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Conspiracy theories have been thoroughly debunked.

Criminal conspiracy, two or more people planning to commit a crime. Not conspiracy theories. Understand the difference?

6 ( +6 / -0 )

The FBI says the breadth and depth of the charges will be stunning.

We are going to see “real Americans” (eg nice white people) from all walks of life conspired to violently over throw their duly elected govt. That’s the bad news.

Good news: They were stupid and blabbed all over fb, Twitter, Parler, etc. about it.

The FBI is coming for you wannabe tough guys. They’re not pleased.....

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Dolt 45 in an orange jumpsuit. In Gitmo?

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist at the Yale School of Medicine and president of the World Mental Health Coalition, explains what attracts people to Trump in Scientific American: The ‘Shared Psychosis' of Donald Trump and His Loyalists. "I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Narcissistic symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader-follower relationship magnetically attractive. The leader, hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self-worth, projects grandiose omnipotence—while the followers, rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury, yearn for a parental figure. When such wounded individuals are given positions of power, they arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a 'lock and key' relationship. 'Shared psychosis'—which is also called 'folie à millions' ['madness for millions'] when occurring at the national level or "induced delusions"—refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the person's symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violence—even in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure."

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Lock up the losers.

After charging them and ensuring they're given a fair trial. The US, especially after the Trump era is already far too authoritarian. Regardless how the trials turn out, those who participated in the attempts to violently overthrow the government are still each and all losers who blindly followed their Trump, the biggest loser in modern US history.

5 ( +5 / -0 )

Apparently the military and law enforcement are riddled with members with far right militia ties, and they will have a very hard time weeding that out. 

Anybody who knows history or political science is very aware that this is a problem endemic to ALL military, police and state security organizations in EVERY county since the establishment of centralized state power over the last couple of centuries.

Returning home from the WW1 front to unemployment and an uncertain future millions of German soldiers, indoctrinated nationalists of a feather, gathered in mutual self-help groups, one of which morphed into the notorious NSDAP whose genetic thumb prints can be found in a myriad of viral mutations even in the state-sponsored bureaucracies and security organizations of ALL "democracies". Without the activism and vigilance of the citizenry the democratic norms we take for granted can wither on the branch. Thus the Capitol mob outside and the renegade representatives inside remind us that for the next four years we will be "living dangerously".

5 ( +5 / -0 )

We are watching the GOP consume itself in real time.

Alexa, order all the popcorn!

4 ( +4 / -0 )

We're looking at significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy

Conspiracy ...

Conspiracy theories have been thoroughly debunked.

-15 ( +0 / -15 )

Articles, Offers & Useful Resources

A mix of what's trending on our other sites