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U.S. Republicans block Senate Democrats' voting rights bill

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People need license to drive a car, buy a gun, in the US. They should need one to vote. Cut down on the rampant voter fraud that led us to this point.

The Dems with their critical race theory, and woke movement are destroying the basics of American democracy.

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P. SmithToday  07:43 am JST

The GOP is the greatest threat to US democracy at the moment.

I'm just waiting for "That's what we think about Democrats lol."

Actually, I think a bigger problem is the system that allows them to do this kind of thing.

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P. SmithToday  07:58 am JST

There is zero evidence of rampant voter fraud. Please hold the disinformation until at least noon.

Yeah of course there is zero evidence of Trump and Russian collusion.

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Thank you, Mitch

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Republicans are hellbent on suppressing as many democratic votes as possible because

For asking you need to have an ID???

they can’t win elections otherwise.

It’s the other way around. Dems don’t call hospitals or the airlines racist for asking and requiring ID. See, this is why Democrats look stupid on this issue.

Republicans are also falling back on their tactic of obstructionism, which they perfected whilst Obama was president.

The Dems did it to Trump as well as trying to take him down. But that was acceptable? Why?

The GOP is the greatest threat to US democracy at the moment.

Looking at the House how it’s looking more promising and recent GOP wins, I don’t think so.

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zichiToday  08:09 am JST

In many states, nothing required to buy a gun. In 36 states, there are no legal requirements for gun registration, no permit needed and no license necessary to purchase and own a firearm ...

Really? So someone under 18 can buy a gun? They don't have to show id to prove they are of age?

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In many states, nothing required to buy a gun. In 36 states, there are no legal requirements for gun registration, no permit needed and no license necessary to purchase and own a firearm .

That has absolutely nothing to do with voter registration, and ensuring clean and honest voting free from cheating and any irregularities.

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Naked attempt by Democrats to make election theft permanent.

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Commodore PerryToday  07:55 am JST

People need license to drive a car, buy a gun, in the US. They should need one to vote. Cut down on the rampant voter fraud that led us to this point.

driving a car is a privilege, not a Constitutional right. Buying a gun is the purchase of a deadly weapon not an act of citizenship and the requirements in many states are less onerous than for voting.

Voter ID laws have been designed to suppress voting of certain groups. Requiring a state issued ID in a majority black district that has only 1 ID issuing center that is open irregularly. Disallowing University IDs that are recognized for every other purpose.

There is ZERO evidence that there has been any voter fraud beyond an infinitesimal level. None, nada, nil, zip, zilch.

This is a solution in search of a problem. This is voter suppression pure and simple because when people vote, the GOQ loses. It happened in 2018. It happened in 2020.

In overwhelming numbers, Americans said no to Trump and gave Democrats the Senate (although I admit by less than I thought it would be.)

And the GOQ cannot even vote to debate protecting the most sacred right of Americans. I would say they’ve hit rock bottom, but we all know there is no bottom. There are no depths to which Mitch will not stoop to maintain power.

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Good move.

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Voter ID laws have been designed to suppress voting of certain groups.

Code: Dems can’t cheat and makes it difficult to use the dead in an election and the ability to cheat twice.

Requiring a state issued ID in a majority black district that has only 1 ID issuing center that is open irregularly.

How insulting! The majority of blacks do believe and support voter ID, it’s the Democrats they vote for that absolutely hates it.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/75-of-all-u-s-voters-69-of-black-voters-support-voter-id-laws-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-election-integrity-debate

Disallowing University IDs that are recognized for every other purpose

We are talking about a National election.

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Voter suppression is a myth. Anyone who wants to vote can do so pretty easily. Most important right in a democracy should require some effort and also be seen as honest and safe

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Is it any wonder why Trump and his dopey followers love Putin so much. They're using today's Russia as a blueprint for what they'd like to see America become.

Let the people vote. What are you afraid of?

After all, it is a democracy, isn't it?

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Yeah of course there is zero evidence of Trump and Russian collusion.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Bipartisan Senate Report Shows How Trump Colluded With Russia in 2016

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Dems can’t cheat and makes it difficult to use the dead in an election and the ability to cheat twice.

Still waiting on proof that there was any kind of massive fraud from democrats in any election. Please provide said proof.

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Democrats just want to eliminate the tax code and incentives to work, and want people in lazy boy chairs voting for the ones that control their health and income.

Ahh, you don't like the way they vote, so you support the GOP's efforts to prevent them from being able to do so.

Very American of you.

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Americans in overwhelming numbers voted and Republicans lost in what Trump’s handpicked election security official said was “the freest fairest election in American history” He was then fired by Trump).

Mitch and the GOQ see the writing on the wall. So they and their minions at the state level are trying to change the rules and suppress the vote. For one simple reason: It’s the only way they can win beyond narrowly constructed congressional districts.

This is a naked power grab and he doesn’t even bother to hide it.

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Republican state legislators justify their new laws by citing former President Donald Trump's continued false claims that his November election defeat was the result of widespread fraud. Those claims were rejected by multiple courts, state election authorities and Trump's own administration.

Pretty much sums it up.

Oh, and the fact that more points of registration, open polling places, and hours to vote hurts the GOP so they choose to make Democracy harder to give them a chance to keep winning elections as a minority party.

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Oh, and the fact that more points of registration, open polling places, and hours to vote hurts the GOP so they choose to make Democracy harder to give them a chance to keep winning elections as a minority party.

Yeah, sure. It just stops Dems dead in their tracks from cheating or attempting to cheat. Again, the majority of Americans and blacks support voter ID, you need an ID fro literally everything else, so this is no different. Yeah, it’s inconvenient for Democrats politically, but for democracy and free and fair elections, it’s the only sensible thing to do.

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Trump recognized the problem of illegal voting.

After he was elected.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

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denied! At least voter ID isnt racist anymore.

All the people who said it was are claiming they never said that.

despite available video showing them saying it.

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these "expanded access" initiatives were not passed as laws, only as rules changed due to COVID.

COVID is done thanks for Trump giving us the vaccines.

So of course these temporary measures that helped Dems win in 2020 go away unless they are passed as law.

Democrats were already discussing alternative strategies for reining in the Republican efforts that reverse some of the 2020 election's expanded access for casting ballots.

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Ditch the filibuster.

It was useful when you you had both parties committed to democracy and our Constitution...but that is no longer the case...

The former Republican, now Fascist Insurrectionist Party, has gone to the "Dark Side", and favors autocratic rule and tyranny of the minority, just like in Russia, China, Iran, etc...

Fake cries of fraud, voting restrictions, cult-like adoration, cancelling all those who speak the truth....that's the new FIP party...and they have no place in a democracy...

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Americans in overwhelming numbers voted and Republicans lost in what Trump’s handpicked election security official said was “the freest fairest election in American history”

The Republican line is that those people who voted for the other guy "want people in lazy boy chairs voting for the ones that control their health and income". Their dislike of how these people vote is their justification for impeding and in some cases removing their right to do so.

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COVID is done thanks for Trump giving us the vaccines.

I wanted the vaccines to get out as much as Trump did, putting us on an equal level insofar as how much we had to do with getting the vaccines out. It's not like he did anything other than that.

Thanks to Biden for delivering them to the Americans who wanted them so fast that now the Americans are giving away the vaccines before they spoil. Actually, thanks to Trump for creating such doubt in vaccines that led to so many Americans not wanting them, they are giving them away to spoil.

See, I'm always willing to give Trump credit where it's due!

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Ditch the filibuster.

…and allow a power grab and a one party rule system? Be careful, to the Dems disappointment they did that in the Senate and now it serves the GOP, Democrats shouldn’t make that mistake again, listen to Manchin and Sinema they already see the writing on the wall.

It was useful when you you had both parties committed to democracy and our Constitution...but that is no longer the case...

True, but neither party has the right to a power grab.

The former Republican, now Fascist Insurrectionist Party, has gone to the "Dark Side", and favors autocratic rule and tyranny of the minority, just like in Russia, China, Iran, etc...

Nothing of the sort, we can make the same accusations about the Democrats. Russia and China are loving this bickering. We need to stay focused, stop the TDS the country needs to be United and focus on Biden and this administration.

Fake cries of fraud, voting restrictions, cult-like adoration, cancelling all those who speak the truth....that's the new FIP party...and they have no place in a democracy...

Well, the left whining is not going to get rid of the filibuster. The Dems need to understand this. They believe in fair elections, you submit an ID, very simple. If you’re admitted to a hospital you need to show ID, if you want to walk into Pelosi’s office, you need ID, voting is no different. Worked to elect the Squad, worked to help Obama-twice.

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StrangerlandToday  10:13 am JST

Thanks to Biden for delivering them to the Americans who wanted them so fast that now the Americans are giving away the vaccines before they spoil.

My firefighter friends in the US got their first shots last December.

Thanks Biden for getting elected and making my friends realize they better get their shots fast before you give away all of America's vaccines to other countries.

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I'd like to know from our Trump supporters the following:

Do you believe that voting should not be an undue burden?

Do you believe that the more citizens vote, the stronger our representative government?

Do you believe that congressional districts should be drawn so as to accurately reflect the will of the people?

Do you believe that the results of an election be based on a fair count of popular votes? Or do you believe the results should rest on the will of the legislature in power?

Do you believe it is morally right to spread disinformation about an election in order to sow distrust of election officials and the electoral process?

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Nicely done Republicans. Don’t let the Left hi-jack democracy.

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Ditch the filibuster.

…and allow a power grab and a one party rule system? Be careful, to the Dems disappointment they did that in the Senate and now it serves the GOP, Democrats shouldn’t make that mistake again, listen to Manchin and Sinema they already see the writing on the wall.

We know that if the Pubs win back the Senate next year (fat chance), you'll be the first rooting to ditch the filibuster...

It was useful when you you had both parties committed to democracy and our Constitution...but that is no longer the case...

True, but neither party has the right to a power grab.

Explain why majority rule is a power grab...

The former Republican, now Fascist Insurrectionist Party, has gone to the "Dark Side", and favors autocratic rule and tyranny of the minority, just like in Russia, China, Iran, etc...

Nothing of the sort, we can make the same accusations about the Democrats. Russia and China are loving this bickering. We need to stay focused, stop the TDS the country needs to be United and focus on Biden and this administration.

Russia and China love the anti-democratic moves by the Repubs....imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

Fake cries of fraud, voting restrictions, cult-like adoration, cancelling all those who speak the truth....that's the new FIP party...and they have no place in a democracy...

Well, the left whining is not going to get rid of the filibuster. The Dems need to understand this. They believe in fair elections, you submit an ID, very simple. If you’re admitted to a hospital you need to show ID, if you want to walk into Pelosi’s office, you need ID, voting is no different. Worked to elect the Squad, worked to help Obama-twice.

Hmmmm.....do you believe Italian satellites changed votes?

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We know that if the Pubs win back the Senate next year (fat chance)

The same thing you guys said in 2010

Again, Manchin and Sinema don’t believe in a power grab.

Explain why majority rule is a power grab...

Rhetorical question? Look at California and New York and understand why they’re leaving in massive numbers. Again, Manchin and Sinema are thinking Democrats, they know this could destroy the party and good on them for acknowledging impending political annihilation

Russia and China love the anti-democratic moves by the Repubs....

But now Biden is President and they’re laughing at him, doesn’t inspire confidence as a supposed world leader, but we are talking about Joe Biden.

Hmmmm.....do you believe Italian satellites changed votes?

I believe everyone should have an ID and everyone should be a legal US citizen. Make it easier to vote and harder to cheat.

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But now Biden is President and they’re laughing at him

Can you prove that please. You keep saying it like it's a fact. Prove it.

Make it easier to vote and harder to cheat.

Can you prove that there was massive cheating in any election please.

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Can you prove that please.

I did the last 4 days, check the other posts.

Can you prove that there was massive

Can Democrats prove there is wide spread voter suppression especially involving the last 3 Democrat Presidential elections? Bet they can’t or we would have seen the evidence.

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I did the last 4 days, check the other posts.

No you didn't. Please post proof that Putin and Xi are "laughing at Biden", and/or not taking him seriously. Not opinion pieces, actual proof.

Can Democrats prove there is wide spread voter suppression especially involving the last 3 Democrat Presidential elections? Bet they can’t or we would have seen the evidence.

There is a whole wikipedia page dedicated to them. Amazing what you can find when you actually look.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

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Bass: Yeah, sure. It just stops Dems dead in their tracks from cheating or attempting to cheat

Closing polling places earlier doesn't prevent cheating. It just reduces the window people have to vote.

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Yeah that Biden claim about Georgia was false.

Biden Wrong on Early Voting Hours

As our fact-checking colleagues at the Washington Post have written, the president has repeatedly made the false claim that the new Georgia law would “close a polling place at 5 o’clock when working people just get off.” The new law sets the minimum hours for early voting on weekdays at 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.; the old law said early voting “shall be conducted during normal business hours.”

County officials can keep early voting locations open for longer, from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

To be clear, Biden is talking about hours for early voting, though he doesn’t say that. The voting hours on Election Day — 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. in the state — haven’t been changed.

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Trump recognized the problem of illegal voting.

After he was elected.

Um, no. No he did not. He claimed voter fraud. Put together a team. They met once. They found nothing and disbanded.

There is absolutely zero evidence of any kind of fraud in any organized manner.

And the fact that it would encompass a conspiracy on a scale requiring the acquiescence and the sustained silence of literally thousands of individuals from BOTH parties calls into question the basic cognitive abilities of those who believe this idiotic conspiracy.

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Drop boxes in Georgia, you say?

You now get to use these in all future elections where they never existed before without COVID.

Isnt this an improvement that allows more voting not less?

Democrats say the new law reduces the number of these boxes, making it harder to vote.

There will be fewer in forthcoming elections, but this needs to be put in context.

Prior to the 2020 election, drop boxes weren't used in Georgia. They were brought in as part of emergency Covid action.

The new law does significantly reduce the number of drop boxes from the 2020 level.

For example, Fulton County says it will go down from 38 to eight drop boxes.

The new law also means the boxes will be held in buildings and can only be accessed in the hours that early voting is allowed, rather than 24 hours a day as was the case in 2020.

But Georgia Governor Brian Kemp says: "People act like we're taking something away - it never existed until the pandemic, it was done by emergency rule, not by legislative action."

Although the new law reduces the amount of drop boxes across Georgia compared with the last election cycle, it does make them a permanent feature in future elections in the state.

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U.S. Republicans block Senate Democrats' voting rights bill

Oh my. These evil "republicans" blocked voting rights for non-existant people, dead people, double and triple people, non-citizens and more. What a crime to want some election integrity.

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I was directly responding to a false claim by Biden and posters here that the polls would close early, preventing people from voting.

"Closing polling places earlier doesn't prevent cheating. It just reduces the window people have to vote."

I wasnt summarizing the entire law for you. Firing of any election officials has nothing to do with preventing anyone from casting a ballot.

Note how you neglect to mention the part about the state legislature being authorized to fire state election officials they disapprove of.

how honest of you

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Looks like the senate is not functioning with all the incessant partisan squabbles.

Soon, this could lead the whole national system to be mal-functional. Beware..

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also no more signature matching in Georgia. Isnt this great?

Well except for these people still claiming Black people cant get ID for some reason. I do believe every citizen has a social security number, at least.

And new voter ID requirements mean signature matching will no longer be used to confirm identities on postal ballots - a method railed against by Donald Trump.

Instead voters will have to provide one form of identification, such as a driver's licence or social security number.

Proponents of the bill say this method will make postal voting more secure, but critics argue the new measures are likely to disproportionately affect black Americans, who are less likely than white Americans to have voter identification.

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We know that if the Pubs win back the Senate next year (fat chance)

The same thing you guys said in 2010

Again, Manchin and Sinema don’t believe in a power grab...

Uh-huh...you'll be for it if the Pubs get the Senate back...

Explain why majority rule is a power grab...

Rhetorical question? Look at California and New York and understand why they’re leaving in massive numbers. Again, Manchin and Sinema are thinking Democrats, they know this could destroy the party and good on them for acknowledging impending political annihilation

No, straight question - just answer it...

Russia and China love the anti-democratic moves by the Repubs....

But now Biden is President and they’re laughing at him, doesn’t inspire confidence as a supposed world leader, but we are talking about Joe Biden.

I'm glad you're acknowledging Biden is President - why won't Trump?

Hmmmm.....do you believe Italian satellites changed votes?

I believe everyone should have an ID and everyone should be a legal US citizen. Make it easier to vote and harder to cheat.

Uh-huh...believe Italian satellites changed votes - yes or no...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pushed-italian-satellite-election-fraud-conspiracy-theory-2021-6

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Woah, let's back up here.

A drivers license is not proof of citizenship.

Let's get that sorted first.

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blacklabel: I was directly responding to a false claim by Biden and posters here that the polls would close early, preventing people from voting.

We can debate a mistake by Biden all you want, but surely you aren't going to claim the GOP isn't restricting voting hours and access.

In fact, in Georgia, the GOP proposed eliminating voting on Sundays entirely. Like, the entire day.

In Texas they tried to push back opening hours on Sunday to 1 PM.

What stopped them? Democrats.

Why do you think the GOP tried to eliminate Sunday voting or restrict Sunday voting hours? Bass is of the opinion that these specific days and hours should be cut because that's them Dems prime weekly cheatin' hours.

What about you?

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Have you even read this law?

Democrat Senate Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer, said: "Republicans recently passed a bill to eliminate early voting on Sunday."

But this element of the bill wasn't passed, and Republicans backtracked following criticism.

The final bill allows two days of early Sunday voting, which is now formally signed into law. An additional day of mandatory Saturday early voting has also been added.

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But this element of the bill wasn't passed, and Republicans backtracked following criticism.

Why do you think Republicans are trying to reduce voting hours on Sundays or eliminating them entirely? And do you support their efforts?

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Commodore Perry: Trump recognized the problem of illegal voting. After he was elected.

Actually Trump claimed fraud when Ted Cruz beat him in the Iowa caucuses. Before he was elected.

“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”

"Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified."

Trump claimed fraud when he lost the vote to Cruz, Clinton, and Biden. It's a pattern.

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These evil "republicans" blocked voting rights for non-existant people, dead people, double and triple people, non-citizens and more.

Please prove any of this massively happened during elections.

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Uh-huh...you'll be for it if the Pubs get the Senate back...

No, never was. I think most liberal policies are whacked but every now and then, they do have some decent ideas.

No, straight question - just answer it...

I did

I'm glad you're acknowledging Biden is President

And Biden is doing what again? We still don’t know yet, I don’t think he does either.

Uh-huh...believe Italian satellites changed votes - yes or no...

Huh? Anyway, by the next election, it’s going to be harder on Dems if they don’t get voter ID ready, but it seems more like they really want to lose the next election

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was it in the law? no it wasnt.

now you want to talk about what someone supposedly "tried" to do instead of talking about what the actual passed law says?

Why do you think Republicans are trying to reduce voting hours on Sundays or eliminating them entirely? And do you support their efforts?

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lets ignore everything IN the law that makes it easier/better to vote and just try to talk about what isnt in the law? You do know, if they wanted it in the law, it would be there. nothing to prevent it.

By the way, why did Georgia just NOW remove 100,000 people from the voting rolls who are dead, didnt identify themselves properly or have moved?

When the governor was asked on TV last night why this was done, he said- because people who moved from Georgia, they voted in more than one state in the last election and this cant happen again.

ummmm whaaaaat?

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blacklabel: now you want to talk about what someone supposedly "tried" to do instead of talking about what the actual passed law says?

Supposedly "tried"? They did try, and Democrats stopped them. I don't think you understand the meaning of supposedly or the use of quotation marks.

Anyway, you don't have to say if you support the GOP's attempts to reduce voting days and hours. And honestly, that's preferred to other Trump fans just making stuff up.

Have a good night.

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