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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2019.UK's Labour Party says it will back call for second Brexit referendum
By Kylie MacLellan and William James LONDON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Tangerine2000
Now the EU has the incentive to extend article 50. The real question is: If there is a second referendum, will Corbyn secretly vote to Leave again?
Alfie Noakes
No mention of them being extreme Blairites and receiving money from the Israeli embassy in London? Joan Ryan got £1m from the Israelis to spread their propaganda and Lucy Berger is a former girlfriend of Blair's son Euan. These people are just Red Tories, subsidised by a foreign government to smear Corbyn and the Labour Party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=217&v=buFz_zkSHqs
CrazyJoe
"Labour Party says it will back call for second Brexit referendum"
Voters originally voted on the theory of Brexit, clouded by hopes and wishes and theories as to what the result might be.
A second vote would be about the reality of Brexit.
Given the profound consequences, it's important for the UK to have that second vote.
If citizens decide to push ahead with that reality . . . . . then let the chips fall where they MAY (overly clever pun).
kurisupisu
Foot dragging,a focus on the wrong issues, and complete incompetence are what the electorate of the UK is suffering!
There has already been a vote!
There is no need for another!
zones2surf
Nothing like calling for a "do over" when you don't get the results you like / want.
Wouldn't it be nice if all of life worked that way.
Alas, those that call for do overs only do so when the first result wasn't to their liking.
Imagine if the vote had been for Remain and Brexit supporters would be fighting for a do over. Remainers would be screaming bloody murder!
Jimizo
That’s about the size of it. Surely even lifelong Labour voters like myself can see how ineptly Corbyn has been leading the party.
Let’s see how this throw of the dice goes down with the public.
goldorak
Will be interesting to see what happens at the next Euro elections if article 50 is extended beyond May 2019. I personally don't think Brits should be able to vote until they've stso.
Scrote
Corbyn will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote for a second referendum. He really wants to leave the EU and I wouldn't be surprised if, faced with the choice of a second referendum or May's deal, he votes for the latter.
itsonlyrocknroll
No surprises here. An amendment to May's dreadful withdrawal bill, will extend Article 50 for up to 21 months, thus the EU Commission current multi-annual financial framework will be fulfilled. There will be a concerted push for a second referendum, a dishonest crooked peoples vote.
The deceit is shameful and potentially subversive, seditious, so contrived to be politically destructive.
The campaigning could and I believe will be seen as pernicious betrayal, a blatant cynically cunning ruse to overturn the 23rd June 2016 vote.
Parliament has politically peed over the electorate, told them it only a shower, no need for an umbrella.
WilliB
Ah yes, the EU understanding of democracy: Repeat a vote, until the obstinant peasants give the "correct" answer, and then make it final.
Here we go again...
Strangerland
In this case it makes sense... sort of. The people had no clue what they were voting on when they voted.
That said, they're more educated now, but really the politicians should just step up and scrap the whole stupid idea.
nandakandamanda
Is there any possibility that the populace will vote 'remain' this time? If so, I can imagine the consequences.
Eventually of course, a third referendum would become obligatory, especially if the voting results are close.
Gobshite
No
itsonlyrocknroll
Theresa May's withdrawal deal will return to the commons for the so called meaningful vote on March 12th. If defeated then a vote will be put to parliament to extend article 50. If passed May will have to negotiate the length of the extention with the EU commission.
itsonlyrocknroll
I understand the initial A50 extension proposal will be two months.
nandakandamanda
Itsonlyrocknroll, you say that May’s withdrawal bill is ‘dreadful’. Perhaps it is, perhaps not. I have heard that accusation a lot, but no-one ever explained what exactly was in it, and why it was dreadful. The only vague thing I picked up on was that it left too much power with Europe. Yes? And that her whole promise to deliver Brexit was a fudge, because she is at heart a Remainer? Is this all true? How do we judge this?
itsonlyrocknroll
Hi nandakandamanda
May's Withdrawal Agreement is politically and economically sub-optimal, tying the UK to a “co-opt” EU’s rulebook, but without any influence. Literality a no seat at the table scenario when new directives and legislation are proposed.
The most contentious aspect of the legally binding terms of May's withdrawal agreement are contained within the “backstop”
When the UK finally withdrawals from the EU, the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic will revert to an international border.
In essence and under WTO most favoured nation rules tariffs and regulatory checks on that border would apply. The historic political sensitivity of a return to a boarder is self explanatory. As much so as the economic importantance to maintain frictionless trade for 1000's of businesses.
So, providing within the agreement is the U.K. to remain in the EU’s Customs Union, and significantly Northern Ireland remain in the Single Market until a future trade agreement be negotiated, so in effect indefinitely.
However that is not al,l the political declaration insists and I quote
The future relationship will be based on a balance of rights and obligations, taking into account the principles of each Party. This balance must ensure the autonomy of the Union’s decision making and be consistent with the Union’s principles, in particular with respect to the integrity of the Single Market and the Customs Union and the indivisibility of the four freedoms
nandakandamanda in all honesty if a choice of May's deal and remaining a EU member state the latter would be a logical decision.
I could accuse Theresa of politically choreographing the whole negotiated agreement to fail. So in effect reversing Brexit.