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President elect? No, just according to the media.

Funny how all reports on most media make it appear like Trump's side has no evidence and is being unreasonable...

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Biden AG could indict Trump

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fec-chairman-trey-trainor-confirms-election-fraud-year-points-several-instances-video/

Even the chair of the Federal Election Commission agrees this was a fraudulent Election.

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by all accounts USA had the cleanest election in history with a huge turnout, something to be celebrated. But Trump and the Replicons will have none of it

what is truly troubling are the number who continue to fight this. They are doing the work China and Russia couldn't

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”declared winner” ? By who?? Oh that’s right the media . News flash! ....Congress will decide on whether the elections were fair or not, the media has nothing to do with deciding who won or not

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by all accounts USA had the cleanest election in history with a huge turnout, something to be celebrated.

The funny thing is, everyone- including you- laughed as you read that sentence!

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To me, I can't understand why people are so amazingly and easily swayed. In the four years that trump did nothing but destroy America ~ in so many ways, as dictators did in history, Biden is going to unveil his first cabinet picks on Tuesday and envisions scaled-down inauguration due to COVID is great, but amid trumps inability to work for Americans instead of only himself, Biden or whoever, needs to step in so trump is pushed out as soon as humanly possible. This is a run-on sentence. Sorry.

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Funny how all reports on most media make it appear like Trump's side has no evidence and is being unreasonable...

When your record is an astounding, Washington Generals vs. Harlem Globetrotters-like 2-30 in your court cases, of which the vast majority have been laughed out of court because your side presents no evidence.... well, basically that means you've got no evidence.

When your two 'wins' were nothing more than minor set asides that didn't affect the count or recount of the state you filed them in... you've got no evidence.

When judges at this point more or less are ready to dismiss your motion before you can even stand up, blot the hair dye off your cheeks, and start blathering because you keep spewing unsupported conspiracies without a shred of evidence, you just might be unreasonable.

Don't blame the media for those reports. They're just reporting the facts and the truth.

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 In the four years that trump did nothing but destroy America ~ in so many ways, as dictators did in history,

4 years of the greatest economy in modern history which, at its worst during Covid. was still stronger than anything Obama/Biden could conjure.

Unprecedented peace in the Middle East with no new wars for the first time in decades.

Prison reform which released Black men incarcerated for minor drug offenses. Biden had spent a career putting those same Black Americans IN jail. He calls them "Super Predators"

The cognitive dissonance within the left in truly stunning.

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Erick HaugrudToday  07:43 am JST

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fec-chairman-trey-trainor-confirms-election-fraud-year-points-several-instances-video/

Even the chair of the Federal Election Commission agrees this was a fraudulent Election.

You trust what a Trump appointee says?

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They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom they don't plead fraud and they don't argue fraud,"

If they lie in the courtroom they go to prison, if they lie outside they add more bigots into their base!!!

The GOP is taking advantage of a vulnerable minority, Americans without brains, and it has to stop!!!!

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To me, I can't understand why people are so amazingly and easily swayed.

its like trying to convince a guy/gal who fills a bucket with a hole at the bottom that the bucket will never get filled - while this same guy/gal will tell you it’s a conspiracy from the media.

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4 years of the greatest economy in modern history which, at its worst during Covid. was still stronger than anything Obama/Biden could conjure

Dear me.

Some do live in a post-fact world.

I blame the tabloids. No good for you.

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The trump dream team kicked out Sidney Powell, the one who claimed Hugo Chavez was trying to influence the election years after he died.

The irony is that trump is trying to do exactly what Chavez did during his rule. Suppress democracy!!!

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The anti-Biden playbook has begun by still being in denial about his win.It's embarrassing the country,people and yourselves.Stop it.Giving downvotes changes nothing too.

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Funny how all reports on most media make it appear like Trump's side has no evidence and is being unreasonable...

err no not the media, the courts dismissal did.. you seem to forget that trump lawyers bringing the case to court are actually saying « this is not a fraud case », so what exactly are they doing ?

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A scaled-down inauguration? Good idea. trump did that too, though in his case it was just because not so many people showed up.

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4 years of the greatest economy in modern history which, at its worst during Covid. was still stronger than anything Obama/Biden could conjure.

That statement is only true if you don't look at the actual facts and numbers.

Freom 2012 to 2016, un der Obama, unemployment fell from about 8% to a about 4.5%. Under Trump, it fell from 4.5% to 3.5% (before shooting up due to Covid, but let's omit that fact for the sake of argument). So while Trump did have the lowest unemployment in a long while, he actually slowed its downward fall that started during Obama's first term (where it was over 10 %). Same thing for wage growth (2.4% for Obama, 2.1% for Trump) and several other indicators.

Trump has vastly benefited from Obama's economy, and his actions have had little actual effect on it (except slightly slow it down). The famous Trump "tax cuts and job act" has done absolutely nothing but make rich people richer (because "trickle down economics" is quite simply a scam) :

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/7-charts-showing-trump-tax-cuts-not-economic-rocket-fuel-2019-12-1028780773

Unprecedented peace in the Middle East with no new wars for the first time in decades.

I think the people of Yemen would disagree with you... I mean they would, if there weren't dead.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10

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The US Election is no longer relevant to the present.

So the only center of attention is .....

U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will announce the first of his cabinet appointments on Tuesday....

This could decide the length of time U.S. President-elect Joe Biden remains in office .

Also the influence Kamila Harris enforces over the choice of candidates.

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Biden to unveil first cabinet picks on Tuesday; envisions scaled-down inauguration

That is some subtle trolling of Trump.

The first week of Trump’s presidency was a prolonged temper tantrum that the media wasn’t proclaiming his inauguration crowd size the biggest of all time, because it wasn’t.

Now Biden is like “Inauguration crowd? Whatever, I don’t even need one.”

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A scaled-down inauguration? Good idea. trump did that too, though in his case it was just because not so many people showed up.

But the stable genius told us it was the biggest crowd in history.

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Inauguration ceremonies and related events typically draw huge crowds to Washington.

2016 was a recent exception though...

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Joe Biden, tactically is the face of the Democrats push for government, for the sole and only purpose of succeeding in unseating Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is going going gone. some foot stamping.

But it life on the golf course from now on.

No more no less.

The next political reality will be selection of the first of his (Biden) cabinet appointments, a political show of force a move that will frame the forthcoming policy agenda.

Kamila Harris did not for one second run for the Vice President to kowtow to Joe Biden in office.  

Kamila Harris ambition demands that, Kamila Harris is the next President in waiting. Joe Biden just keeping the seat warm.   

This is the reality of politics and government. It not personal.

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From the article: Critics of Trump, including Democrats and some Republicans, have accused him of trying to undermine faith in the American electoral system and delegitimize Biden's victory by promoting false claims of widespread voter fraud.

These are not "critics of Trump." The sentence should read something like this:

"Normal, rational people understand that Trump is trying to undermine..."

As far as the inauguration, what's wrong wrong with having a dignified swearing-in at the Capitol rotunda that is televised and without any crowd? There is a pandemic going on, you know?

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Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie called the president's legal team a "national embarrassment".

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Trump has become the president deplorable.

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I see the Trump supporters here are still on the "It's all fraud and it was stolen" bandwagon...

But if that's so, why are all of Trump lawyers saying in court - when they are under oath by the way and could he held in contempt if they lie - that "this is not a fraud case" and  "we are not alleging fraud or that the election was stolen"...

In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.

In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud, despite the President and his lawyers’ repeated public claims, “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety”.

In Arizona, Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”

https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/

So the question is, why is Trump and his team telling you (Trump supporters) that it's all a fraud, but when they get in front of a judge, they state the exact opposite?

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Congress will decide on whether the elections were fair or not, the media has nothing to do with deciding who won or not

wrong its the states their laws and their election results that decide the election and who gets the certified electoral college votes. (popular vote in each state gets the electoral college votes) any interference with that is both undemocratic unconstitutionality and un American. Anybody that thinks that its perfectly fine to overrule the will of the American voters should leave

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Funny how all reports on most media make it appear like Trump's side has no evidence and is being unreasonable...

because that the decision by the courts, 33 cases 31 thrown out by judges, through lack of evidence, lying in court by lawyers is perjury and gets you disbarred and in prison. the two cases that Trump won didnt change the results of the elections in those states. The media is reporting the decisions of the courts.

they also reporting that Georgia has certified the election win to Biden and on Monday Pennsylvanian will as well

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Liberals are the absolute last people to utter that sentence when for 4 years they didn’t give a darn to the will of the people, but now we must? Lol

and yet its the courts that are siding with Biden and against Trump, many of those judges are Trump and GOP appointees, yes they did give a darn and Trump was president for 4yrs, even Hillary admitted that when she gave her concession speech the day after Trump won. yes so GOP will have to also whether they like the results or not.

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So the question is, why is Trump and his team telling you (Trump supporters) that it's all a fraud, but when they get in front of a judge, they state the exact opposite?

because outside of court your personal opinion is protected by freedom of speech, in a court room it isnt, your allegations need to be backed with proof and facts, knowingly stating false statements and providing false evidence under oath is perjury and will likely get you disbarred and in prison, funny how Trumps lawyers do a reverse flip as soon as they step into a court room LOL

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and yet its the courts that are siding with Biden and against Trump,

Of course they are the unwanted establishment.

many of those judges are Trump and GOP appointees,

Not all and it seems like quite a few have been threatened or even promised of an audit and were lied to once the certification was complete.

yes they did give a darn and Trump was president for 4yrs,

No, they didn’t, they completely dismissed and tried to take our delegitimize this President, so Trump can do the exact same to Biden, Dems just need to take it, a few more weeks won’t hurt. Lol

even Hillary admitted

And she also said that Biden shouldn’t concede no matter what and Trump is tasking her advice.

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The only thing more deplorable than Trump's behaviour is that of his supporters. Your side lost by a total of 9 million votes over 2 elections. Suck it up, and go away.

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The only thing more deplorable than Trump's behaviour is that of his supporters.

70+million ticked off supporters to be exact.

Your side lost by a total of 9 million votes over 2 elections.

Uh-huh...suuuuure. ROFL

Suck it up, and go away.

You guys didn’t when Trump became President and now neither will we, suck it up. Keep an eye on the House and try not to lose more seats, it’s politically bad for Dems.

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Even the chair of the Federal Election Commission agrees this was a fraudulent Election.

The Federal Election Commission was part of the statement issued by the Homeland Security stating these elections were the safest in history.

International observers from the Organization of American States say they saw no instances of fraud or voting irregularities in the U.S. presidential election.

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

Amazing how much fake news is being spread by Trump and his supporters.

30 of his court cases thrown out last week alone. Ruby in hair dye meltdown.

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And she also said that Biden shouldn’t concede no matter what and Trump is tasking her advice.

Trump following the advice of Clinton never.

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70+million ticked off supporters to be exact.

Millions of Trump supporters don't agree with his denial of the elections and millions have called for him to concede including high ranking officials, family members and elected representatives across the country.

He retains his debased supporters, people who will never accept the outcome and defeat of their leader in a historical landslide victory by Biden with the greatest number of votes by any presidential candidate. Won the pop vote and will win the EC too.

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Scaled-down inauguration to no inauguration.

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Major Fortune 500 business leaders have called on Trump to concede.

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bass4funkToday  10:15 am JST

when for 4 years they didn’t give a darn to the will of the people

The will of the people? What, did Trump win the popular vote in 2016?

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They could limit it to the number of people serving Trump with civil suits, criminal indictments and divorce papers.

It’d still be more than showed to Trump’s inauguration.

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Trump supporters love talking about Trumps 70 something million voters.

Fun fact: Biden is on track to get nearly 82 million voters which (checks math) is more voters.

And before they go there: 306 EC votes is more than the required 270.

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IF all you want to do is play with numbers, then Trump is the second most popular person to ever run for president. More popular that Obama, Clinton (either one) or Reagan.

As for the possible inauguration, probably Biden has a good idea. If/when he is officially the man, it is up to him to decide. A smaller ceremony seems fitting.

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bob: was still stronger than anything Obama/Biden could conjure.

Republicans say that because they've been conditioned to say that. The data does not support the claim and it hasn't for decades. Conservatives never list data, they just go with the stereotype instead.

Jobs created during their Presidential term:

Clinton: +20.9%

Obama: +8.6%

Bush Sr.: +2.5%

Bush Jr.: 1.0%

Trump: -2.7%

Stock market performance by President (1st four years):

Clinton: +97%

Obama: +64%

Trump: +47%

Bush Jr: -6.1%

In terms of polling, more people trust Biden with the economy than Trump. Conservatives will scoff at that because of the stereotype they have hammered into their brains, but it's a verifiable statistic. Despite that, my guess is that the stereotype is just too strong for actual data to overcome the bias in your mind.

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Trump supporters - would appreciate any of you enlightening us on this;

So the question is, why is Trump and his team telling you (Trump supporters) that it's all a fraud, but when they get in front of a judge, they state the exact opposite?

Who are we and you to believe? Trump who says the election was fraudulent and "stolen", or his team of lawyers who say in court;

Giuliani: "This is not a fraud case"...

His Attorney in Pennsylvania: "There is no evidence of any fraud"...

His Attorney in Arizona: "We are not alleging fraud or anyone stealing the election"...

Please tell us....

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Trump following the advice of Clinton never.

He is now, first time for everything.

Millions of Trump supporters don't agree with his denial of the elections and millions have called for him to concede including high ranking officials, family members and elected representatives across the country.

But millions do and personally, I focus more on that side of the fence of people that know and have deep suspicions about this election including high ranking officials, family members and elected representatives across the country.

He retains his debased supporters,

And as David Gergen said, Trump leaves as THE most power post Republican President and Democrats should never, ever underestimate that and the anger of these people and I agree.

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The will of the people?

we don’t go by the popular vote in the US. Not sure in other countries, not important actually, I’m not European, I just care about the US. But I am happy about the House prospects.

They could limit it to the number of people serving Trump with civil suits, criminal indictments and divorce papers. 

Probsbly not, doesn’t mean the Dems won’t try to throw out some banana peels along the way.

It’d still be more than showed to Trump’s inauguration.

Doubt it.

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wtfjapan: because that the decision by the courts, 33 cases 31 thrown out by judges, through lack of evidence, lying in court by lawyers is perjury and gets you disbarred and in prison. the two cases that Trump won didnt change the results of the elections in those states. The media is reporting the decisions of the courts.

Trump is just getting the frivolous and unprovable court cases out of the way and cutting ties with multiple law firms before getting to the real cases. Or something like that.

Trump just cut ties with Sidney Powell, the lawyer in the news conference that was spouting all kinds of nutty theories about "communist money." Guess she was just a tad bit too much on the crazy side.

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Trump supporters love talking about Trumps 70 something million voters. 

Yes

Fun fact: Biden is on track to get nearly 82 million voters

ROFL uh-huh

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Trump took an economy running at full-employment after Obama recovered from a Great Recession overseen by a Republican, and did what he does with his businesses: He flew it straight into the ground.

He’s as incompetent at governance as he was at business.

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bass: I focus more on that side of the fence of people that know and have deep suspicions about this election

Others are focusing more on evidence.

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Republicans say that because they've been conditioned to say that. The data does not support the claim and it hasn't for decades. Conservatives never list data, they just go with the stereotype instead.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-gonzalez-democrats-lying-economy-20190522-jqlxy37t7bflnooxeliwrkibfm-story.html

Even Bloomberg of all people had to admit the obvious, painful as it might have been.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-10-30/trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s

Others are focusing more on evidence

Oddly, not the Democrats....

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There are already articles over here worrying that the Republican controlled Senate will refuse to confirm Biden's picks for his cabinet, in their efforts to make him a one-term president. Today's Republican Senators are not exactly paradigms of virtue.

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we don’t go by the popular vote in the US. Not sure in other countries, not important actually, I’m not European, I just care about the US. But I am happy about the House prospects.

So why do you keep mentioning Trump's votes of 70 million.

234 EC seats with Biden on 306

What happened to your claim of being a German American?

President deplorable is just playing wack-a-mole

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Trump took an economy running at full-employment after Obama

You mean all those paper hat jobs at part-time that required a response to “would you like fries with that?” Trump eliminated all the regulations, changed the corporate tax rate, gave tax incentive to small businesses something Obama and Democrats would never ever do. Never met a Democrat that didn’t love a tax hike.

recovered from a Great Recession overseen by a Republican

True, but then it went downhill from there.

and did what he does with his businesses: He flew it straight into the ground. 

Because of China.

He’s as incompetent at governance as he was at business

56% of the nation back in September felt better off then the previous 4 years. Thanks Trump. We like that kind of incompetency.

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So why do you keep mentioning Trump's votes of 70 million.

Because I can.

234 EC seats with Biden on 306

Ok, of you guys say so ROFL!

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In terms of polling, more people trust Biden with the economy than Trump. Conservatives will scoff at that because of the stereotype they have hammered into their brains, but it's a verifiable statistic. Despite that, my guess is that the stereotype is just too strong for actual data to overcome the bias in your mind.

Nope. Wrong again. Lets take a look at the unemployment rate and GDP performances over the last 12 years..

https://www.thebalance.com/unemployment-rate-by-year-3305506

See those numbers that went way up between 2008-2016, then way down from 2016? Thats called the unemployment rate.

See those numbers that were near zero most years from 2008-2016 then exploded from 2016? Thats called GDP.

And no. Voters did not trust Biden over Trump on the economy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-campaign-2020-apparently-its-not-the-economy-stupid-11603111498

> But then, cognitive dissonance is a terrible affliction.

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bass: we don’t go by the popular vote in the US.

When you're talking about "popularity" and "the will of the people" you certainly use popular vote as evidence. The only function of the EC was to produce a result where the less popular candidate was elected. It does not magically make him more popular.

This would also apply to your false claim of "silent majority." Trump voters were in the minority. The EC awarded the win to the minority, not the majority.

Not sure why you struggle to understand the distinction.

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There are 34 million people below the poverty line in the US in 2019.

White people still earn on average more than non whites. Males earn more than females.

Unemployment rate 2008 7.3%

2009 9.9%

2016 4.7%

Under Obama it decreased by 5.2%.

2019 3.5%

Under Trump it decreased 1.7%

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Maybe he can put the little circles on the ground for all five people that show up? Just like one of his rallies. ;)

I'm sure the "Office of the President Elect" can organize that one.

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Christie, as usual, got it wrong - far more than an embarrassment, The impeached, disgraced, soon-to-be-removed-by-force occupant of the Oval Office is seeking to undermine the will of the people expressed at the ballot box, and in doing so undermininging both the rule of law and confidence in the electoral system. Russia wouldn't have caused this much turmoil if they'd simply taken over the country. Worst. president. ever.

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we don’t go by the popular vote in the US. Not sure in other countries, not important actually,

I think it’s very important that a president have a mandate from the people to govern. The will of the people is the foundation of a democratic country and is expressed via the popular vote because the popular vote is literally the expression of the voting populace’s individual constituents.

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bass4funkToday  11:34 am JST

we don’t go by the popular vote ...

I suppose a coherent explanation of how the popular vote doesn't reflect the will of the people would be too much to expect.

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Let me be very clear.

Trump is a despicable narcissist, but what scares me more is the 70 million people who voted for him.

Did you know that there are approximately 90 million people in the US who have an IQ less than 90?

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bass: I focus more on that side of the fence of people that know and have deep suspicions about this election

Others are focusing more on evidence.

You and your silly evidentiary standards. Don’t you know we go by raw emotion instead of facts in the US judicial system?

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When you're talking about "popularity" and "the will of the people"

But that’s not our system. 70+ million people support Trump and yet, you just outright dismiss them, but if you want to go by that then Trump would win, but given the circumstances of this election and how it was conducted, we may never know.

This would also apply to your false claim of "silent majority." Trump voters were in the minority.

If you think so, you are free to. Lol

I suppose a coherent explanation of how the popular vote doesn't reflect the will of the people would be too much to expect.

We went through this so many times. Simon, we got this, yo! Lol

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"https://www.thegatewaypundit.com" Providing a source in some cases actually undermines your point. The person mentioned was quoted out of context, and his remarks were not printed verbatim. GP is a joke among credentialled journalists - it has about as much credibility as OANN or Sinclair, and marginally less than even Fox or RedState.

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Will Biden step down during his first term and let Kamila Harris become the first female black-asian president. Likely.

She would of course then appoint another female VP.

WH run by two females.

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But that’s not our system. 70+ million people support Trump and yet, you just outright dismiss them, but if you want to go by that then Trump would win, but given the circumstances of this election and how it was conducted, we may never know.

Doesn't bother to answer how the popular vote, the actual voice of the people, doesn’t provide a mandate. Then goes on to push the unfounded voter fraud narrative.

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There are 34 million people below the poverty line in the US in 2019.

And even under the last administration the regressive economic policies didn’t help reduce that number, definitely not in the richest blue states.

White people still earn on average more than non whites. Males earn more than females.

Unemployment rate 2008 7.3%

2009 9.9%

2016 4.7%

Under Obama it decreased by 5.2%.

2019 3.5%

Under Trump it decreased 1.7%

Well, not entirely....

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/27/small-business-owners-donald-trump-second-term

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Because I can.

Because neither the facts, nor logic are on your side.

More people voted for Biden by far. Biden got a decisive EC victory. Your man is a profound failure.

The American people had a choice to retain him and resoundingly said “no way”

So keep on ROLFing.

When Joe solves the virus, gets the economy going and doesn’t make people worry everyday about what is said or done, That will be the nail in the coffin for the cult of personality that is Trumpism.

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Congress will decide on whether the elections were fair or not

Wrong. It's the people who should decide. After all, the Republicans said it themselves back during Trump's impeachment, that the people should decide in the elections. And the result: Trump is the only president to have lost the popular vote twice. Seems pretty consistent to me. The people have spoken. Republicans should stop whining and man-up. Live with the results. Do something more constructive like looking at the demographics and who voted and see how they can get back those votes they lost.

I just don't get it. Republicans somehow want to fabricate some conspiracy that millions of Americans, government officials, business leaders, ballot counters across the country, poll workers, law enforcement officials, etc. got together, decided to put together the greatest heist in the history of heists just to get the Presidency, but lose seats in the House and quite possibly the Senate? Wow!

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bass4funk

Well, not entirely....

well they are according to the Bob and his link claiming otherwise.

https://www.thebalance.com/unemployment-rate-by-year-3305506

And even under the last administration the regressive economic policies didn’t help reduce that number, definitely not in the richest blue states.

Let's see

Poverty Rates

2009 14.3%

2016 12.7%

a decrease of 1.6%

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White people still earn on average more than non whites. Males earn more than females.

Ahhh Zichi. Not just wrong but spectacularly wrong again..

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2018/demo/p60-263/figure1.pdf

when you break it down further into nationalities, white Americans are somewhere around 8th or 9th.

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bob: See those numbers that went way up between 2008-2016, then way down from 2016? Thats called the unemployment rate.

Oh boy.

Unemployment went "way up" from 2008-2016? Did you even look at the data you presented? It literally says the unemployment rate was 7.8% when Obama took over (not including the continued Bush losses after Obama took office where it went up to 9.9%) and 4.7% when he left. Trump took it from 4.7% to its current rate of 6.9%.

Check this out: https://www.tampabay.com/resizer/HQPso5pW_1lKClvAgfszovOkBus=/1140x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tbt/Y5NUAY2Y3NGM3DP6VVCWSJRYEM.jpg

Looks like a straight line down to me, except Obama started in the hole. If the graph didn't point out when Trump was elected, would you be able to tell? Nope.

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Because neither the facts, nor logic are on your side. 

Actually, quite the opposite, when Conservatives start winning in California, it’s a red alert, those are hard facts and an irrefutable logic to disprove.

More people voted for Biden by far. Biden got a decisive EC victory. Your man is a profound failure. 

Ok, ok, you guys can think that, stop making me laugh now. ROFL. Too funny.

The American people had a choice

I disagree.

When Joe solves the virus,

Can’t, Trump and his team already got a vaccine, so people can thank Trump and party in the streets for Biden and take off the mask....oh, they’re doing that already...well, Gavin Newsom doesn’t take this seriously, actually none of the Dems do and that’s why they keep getting caught without masks. Sneaky these people. Lol

gets the economy going

He won’t, there not businesses left, everyone is leaving and more regulations won’t work, but Biden can try. Texas and Florida will just have to make more room for people.

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bass4funkToday  12:12 pm JST

But that’s not our system.

I see I was correct.

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The Judicial branch, not Congress will decide if the election has been free and fair.

And it has spoken with uniformity. Trump has lost at the state and federal level. Trump has lost at the circuit and appellate level. Trump has lost in WI, MI, PA, GA, NV, and AZ.

TRUMP IS A LOSER. HE LOST.

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its so funny watching the usual suspects retreat to yet another activist interpretation of the economy when yet another narrative crumbles...

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If Trump does decide to go to the inauguration, do you want to make a bet that he'll do something really stupid so it's all about him and not Biden?

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bob

 White people still earn on average more than non whites. Males earn more than females.

Ahhh Zichi. Not just wrong but spectacularly wrong again..

Not according to your link blacks and hispanics earn less than white. Blacks about a third less than whites. Thanks for showing I was correct.

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bass: Not in the private sector and this is why the guy was abysmal as a President

You literally posted a link specifically talking about how Obama's jobs were created in the private sector. I mean....are we really debating?

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bass4funk

Can’t, Trump and his team already got a vaccine,

No he didn't. That was down to Big Pharma not Trump who hasn't even attended a WH pandemic meeting for months. Refused to take part in the G20 meeting on it too, instead went playing golf.

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Trump last year, claimed and promised he was going to solve the problem of the California homeless. Nothing became of it.

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People who attended the WH pandemic meetings stated Trump did not attend in person or online. Considering he also claimed to be an expert on the virus, more than even scientists, you would think he would want to share that knowledge with his team and Dr Fauci.

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Biden received 6 million more votes nationwide than Trump

And counting. This isn’t close.

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These AP/NBC article highlights the pitfalls for the Biden Presidency and administration from day one.

A policy agenda that reflect the ambitions of the progressive wing of the party.

Progressives look to make early mark on Biden White House

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-coronavirus-pandemic-038617c6b108c1629208621d4ce03d21

Corporation-free zone: Progressives press Biden to lock out big business

Progressives are ramping up their public pressure on President-Elect Joe Biden to appoint progressives to key jobs in his incoming administration and keep out corporate executives, lobbyists and consultants.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/corporation-free-zone-progressives-press-biden-lock-out-big-business-n1248312

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Who are we and you to believe? Trump who says the election was fraudulent and "stolen", or his team of lawyers who say in court;

Giuliani: "This is not a fraud case"...

His Attorney in Pennsylvania: "There is no evidence of any fraud"...

His Attorney in Arizona: "We are not alleging fraud or anyone stealing the election"...

Please tell us....

Lots of Trump supporters posting here - none will answer this question...

Hmmmmm.....

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Who are we and you to believe? Trump who says the election was fraudulent and "stolen", or his team of lawyers who say in court;

Giuliani: "This is not a fraud case"...

His Attorney in Pennsylvania: "There is no evidence of any fraud"...

His Attorney in Arizona: "We are not alleging fraud or anyone stealing the election"...

Please tell us....

Lots of Trump supporters posting here - none will answer this question...

Hmmmmm.....

Hi Lincolnman -let me answer that question with a question of my own. Why are the lawsuits still ongoing and what do you know about the next 48 hour news cycle that the rest of us don't?

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Hi Lincolnman -let me answer that question with a question of my own. Why are the lawsuits still ongoing and what do you know about the next 48 hour news cycle that the rest of us don't?

That's not an answer....once again, who are we to believe; Trump who says its fraud or his lawyers who say under oath that it isn't?

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Now many Trump court cases have been filed and how many cases have been won?

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Facts are: Not one Trump lawyer can swear under oath that they are trying to present a case of fraud. All they can present are hearsay.

Also, the only real known case of fraud was a Republican voter in Pennsylvania who tried to vote for his dead mother. So if there are any cases of fraud being done, the GOP should look in the mirror.

bass4funk:

You disagreeing with the results of this election, but agreeing with the results of the 2016 election shows clear hypocrisy. Fair is fair. You don't cry foul only when your team doesn't win.

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Has anyone noticed that the use of 1990s-era Internet acronyms/initialisms - LOL, ROFL, SMH - increase when the posters who use them have less ground to stand on and feel more desperate?

Anyhow, the magical thinking, conspiracy theory-oriented approaches of certain elements of the population continue unabated.

“I can’t believe it’s true! There has to be a conspiracy!”

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Difficult to believe that Biden turned so many out. 

and even if it ends up being called for him, poor those who voted for him.  He is already appointing one corporate/warmongering/political insider after another to his admin.  and he continues to look old and frail and forgetful.

The presser he just held was a joke.

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and he continues to look old and frail and forgetful.

I suppose an obese, illiterate small-handed man who can’t do ramps or drinking receptacles would be much more preferable.

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